A Natural Scabies Cure?

A Natural Scabies Cure?

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Since: Nov 09

Milford, PA

#1 Dec 7, 2009
Found on the net:
http://www.cleansingorsurgery.com/scabies.htm

I decided to try this in the hot bath last night, because everything else seemed to be just keeping me status quo. I used 2 cups of borax though, because I'm a big guy, a few minutes in, I decided to add one standard bottle of hydrogen peroxide to see if it would help? I don't know the toxicity of either of these, but there was a lot of white looking microscopic specks of scum in the water as I emptied the tub?(dead bugs?) maybe it's just wishful thinking? Anyway, had a good night's sleep (no bites, or crawling) and my skin looks, & feels so good this morning, better then it has in a long time! Especially my hands. I think I'm gonna try the directions here for an all purpose, & laundry soap. Just passing this along, hope it helps. Mike
Vann from Tennessee

United States

#2 Dec 7, 2009
"one standard bottle of hydrogen peroxide?"

How many ounces is in your "Standard Bottle?"

Vann

Since: Nov 09

Milford, PA

#3 Dec 7, 2009
Vann from Tennessee wrote:
"one standard bottle of hydrogen peroxide?"
How many ounces is in your "Standard Bottle?"
Vann
16 ounces, as found in most stores.

Since: Nov 09

Milford, PA

#4 Dec 7, 2009
All input is appreciated, Yay, or Nay, or your opinion, or ideas, pertaining to this method?
birdmitestorture d

United States

#5 Dec 7, 2009
MikDee wrote:
All input is appreciated, Yay, or Nay, or your opinion, or ideas, pertaining to this method?
MMM Vinegar & kitchen salt is good too!
Vann from Tennessee

Beech Bluff, TN

#6 Dec 8, 2009
I suggest everyone verify exactly what skin condition you have. It may NOT be scabbies. Look at these photos.
http://www.lib.uiowa.edu/hardin/md/gallery2.h...

Now, then... WHY EXACTLY do you think you have scabies?

Vann

Since: Nov 09

Milford, PA

#7 Dec 8, 2009
Vann from Tennessee wrote:
I suggest everyone verify exactly what skin condition you have. It may NOT be scabbies. Look at these photos.
http://www.lib.uiowa.edu/hardin/md/gallery2.h...
Now, then... WHY EXACTLY do you think you have scabies?
Vann
I know I don't have scabies, the rash, & symptoms don't fit, but I'm trying the natural treatments here for some relief, & most have helped. I'm guessing birdmites, or whatever? I'm not really sure, all I ever see, or retieve is black pepper spots, that look like nothing but fuzz, or lint, under a jewelers loop. I read somewhere it's a dead hair follicle?

Since: Nov 09

Milford, PA

#8 Dec 8, 2009
Actually, maybe I have both? I just found this Pic. that resmbles a rash I have JUST on both side of my belly, it almost looks like prickly heat, and is one of the more constantly slightly itchy spots on my body?

This looks like it, here take a look:
http://www.lib.uiowa.edu/hardin/md/dermnet/de...
Vann from Tennessee

Beech Bluff, TN

#9 Dec 8, 2009
Joe

Hollywood, FL

#10 Dec 8, 2009
MikDee wrote:
All input is appreciated, Yay, or Nay, or your opinion, or ideas, pertaining to this method?
Good Deal, Mike. The hydrogen peroxide acts as a penetrant. It assists the borax in getting into the burrows. I'm glad it helped you. Maybe that along with ivermectin can cure you.
Joe

Hollywood, FL

#12 Dec 8, 2009
Vann from Tennessee wrote:
I suggest everyone verify exactly what skin condition you have. It may NOT be scabbies. Look at these photos.
http://www.lib.uiowa.edu/hardin/md/gallery2.h...
Now, then... WHY EXACTLY do you think you have scabies?
Vann
What do you have, Vann?
Pokadot Patty

United States

#13 Dec 9, 2009
Vann from Tennessee wrote:
See the BURROWS in EVERY CASE and the PROPER distribution for scabies:
http://www.righthealth.com/topic/Picture_Of_S...
http://dermnetnz.org/arthropods/scabies.html
http://dermatlas.med.jhmi.edu/derm/IndexDispl...
http://www.skinsight.com/adult/scabies.htm
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/ruth.livingstone/li...
http://www.bhchp.org/BHCHP%20Manual/pdf_files...
http://www.heartlandderm.com/%20PDFs/Scabies1...
If you don't see the burrows, then you have something else. Maybe lice, bedbugs, allergies, bird mites, etc.
Maybe even MORGELLANS.
IS IT MORGELLONS??
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =z6EIlNaqM60XX&
http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/morgellons.h...
http://www.EarthClinic.com/cures/morgellons.h...
http://www.morgellonsexposed.com/index.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch... ;
http://www.youtube.com/watch... ;
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch... ;
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch... ;
http://www.diatomitecanada.com/links.htm
* Blacklight Test for Morgellons Video
http://s267.photobucket.com/albums/ii286/ivan...
Red wine, purple grape juice or peroxide swish in mouth releases a LOT of Morgellons Toxins
Sugar feeds this condition
Garlic, tea, YesToCarrots cream helps
Nutrisilver? http://www.nutrasilver.com/
Vann
Are you a Doctor??? You sound like one !!
Vann from Tennessee

United States

#14 Dec 9, 2009
I am NOT a doctor, just another victim of Scabies, but I have done a LOT of net searches to find out exactly what the situation is, and all possible approaches to take.

In my case, tunneling under the skin as seen in my posted photos links definitely indicates Scabies.

So far, my itching is stopped by spraying Windex on the sheets just before going to bed, or by rubbing Grape seed oil into the skin.

I will be reporting more as I go.

Here is difficult to find information about THE ENEMY.
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1. Infestation begins with a single pregnant FEMALE mite. Once impregnated, she leaves her "Molting Pouch" to find a new host or to make her new permanent burrow. They search for areas with folds and crevices, such as between the fingers, under the arms, on the wrists, around the waist, the breast area (on women), and around male genitalia. Male dies shortly after mating.

2. After digging her new tunnel, she lays 2 to 3 eggs per day that are approximately 0.10 to 0.15 mm in length. After 3 to 4 days, her eggs hatch inside the skin burrow. 10% of the eggs hatch males, 90% females. The 6 legged larvae remain in the female's burrow for up to one day, and then leave the burrow to excavate a their own Molting Pouch.

3. Larvae grow and change form by shedding their exoskeleton (molting) three times before they reach adulthood (larva, protonymph, tritonymph, adult). Each molting takes 2-3 days, and each molting requires the excavation of new molting pouch or hair follicle. After the final molt, the mite has reached reproductive maturity with 8 legs. Males leave the pouch to find a female. Females may leave the pouch to look for an ideal location to dig a new tunnel.

3. Meanwhile, pregnant female continues to lengthen her burrow and laying eggs until ( 60 to 90 eggs in all ) she dies in about 1 month. Burrows take an S shape.

4. Adult males are innocuous, residing in shallow areas on the skin and feeding on their human host until they find the molting pouch of a female mite. they are attracted to the openings of female mites' molting pouches, which contains large quantities of feces.

The horror: 1 pregnant female can result in up to 90 new mites within 1 month, each digging 3 new pouches while molting = 270 pouches. The next month multiply the numbers again = staggering number of welts & itchy spots. Imagine 90 squared new mites per month.

Vann
Pokadot Patty

United States

#15 Dec 9, 2009
Vann from Tennessee wrote:
I am NOT a doctor, just another victim of Scabies, but I have done a LOT of net searches to find out exactly what the situation is, and all possible approaches to take.
In my case, tunneling under the skin as seen in my posted photos links definitely indicates Scabies.
So far, my itching is stopped by spraying Windex on the sheets just before going to bed, or by rubbing Grape seed oil into the skin.
I will be reporting more as I go.
Here is difficult to find information about THE ENEMY.
==========
1. Infestation begins with a single pregnant FEMALE mite. Once impregnated, she leaves her "Molting Pouch" to find a new host or to make her new permanent burrow. They search for areas with folds and crevices, such as between the fingers, under the arms, on the wrists, around the waist, the breast area (on women), and around male genitalia. Male dies shortly after mating.
2. After digging her new tunnel, she lays 2 to 3 eggs per day that are approximately 0.10 to 0.15 mm in length. After 3 to 4 days, her eggs hatch inside the skin burrow. 10% of the eggs hatch males, 90% females. The 6 legged larvae remain in the female's burrow for up to one day, and then leave the burrow to excavate a their own Molting Pouch.
3. Larvae grow and change form by shedding their exoskeleton (molting) three times before they reach adulthood (larva, protonymph, tritonymph, adult). Each molting takes 2-3 days, and each molting requires the excavation of new molting pouch or hair follicle. After the final molt, the mite has reached reproductive maturity with 8 legs. Males leave the pouch to find a female. Females may leave the pouch to look for an ideal location to dig a new tunnel.
3. Meanwhile, pregnant female continues to lengthen her burrow and laying eggs until ( 60 to 90 eggs in all ) she dies in about 1 month. Burrows take an S shape.
4. Adult males are innocuous, residing in shallow areas on the skin and feeding on their human host until they find the molting pouch of a female mite. they are attracted to the openings of female mites' molting pouches, which contains large quantities of feces.
The horror: 1 pregnant female can result in up to 90 new mites within 1 month, each digging 3 new pouches while molting = 270 pouches. The next month multiply the numbers again = staggering number of welts & itchy spots. Imagine 90 squared new mites per month.
Vann
Awesome... isn't it! I found all of that info and more the first few weeks of my "infestation". I guess you have not came across the description of rich mans scabies yet. There are some (quite a few)of us that try everything to make them go away....constantly.
So we end up with fewer, smaller, and more unobtrusive tunnels. Indeed... they only show up if you put bleach water of hydrogen peroxide on them. We do have bumps and iches.
Pokadot Patty

United States

#16 Dec 9, 2009
....and scabies.
Pokadot Patty

United States

#17 Dec 9, 2009
Excuse me... that was clean mans scabies. See below

Clean Man's Scabies: In those who bath daily and keep themselves clean, the lesions are scarce and barely visible. Itching is minimal.

Scabies incognito: If strong steroids are mistakenly applied, the lesions are suppressed and change morphology.

Infant scabies: Palms and soles, head neck, face and the whole body is involved in babies. There may be circular scaly patches, vesicles and pustules present in abundance. Often misdiagnosed and mistreated.

Norwegian scabies: Very severe crusted scabies in the immune deficient and mentally retarded with lesions teeming with hundreds of thousands of mites!

Animal scabies: If you have a cat or dog which has scabies, your household, especially children can get animal scabies. The lesions are seen only in areas which are in direct contact with the pet. Burroughs are conspicuous in animal scabies by their absence.

Nodular Scabies: The mites burrow deeper in certain areas, especially the male genitalia and inguinal folds, forming brownish itchy deep seated nodules. These are resistant to normal modes of treatment.

Sexually Transmitted Scabies: Scabies can get transmitted following a sexual contact and can co exist with other STDs like HIV, syphilis, gonorrhoea, chancroid,pubic louse etc.

Scabies bullosa: Vesicular and bullous eruptions are seen in infants afflicted with scabies

Scabies ide and pompholyx: In severe scabies, the skin develops an allergic response to the mite and its excretory product which manifest as vesicular eruption along the sides of the fingers and toes.
Vann from Tennessee

United States

#18 Dec 9, 2009
Pokadot Patty,

I have just ordered supplies to begin my treatment. I have decided to go with the "Arm & Hammer Laundry Detergent Free of Perfume and Dye" daily soak,
http://www.greatcleaners.com/Products/PID-332...
I have both the liquid & powder versions to try.
alternating with the Sulpher Cream
http://www.drugsdepot.com/viewitem.php/drugsd...
and Sulpher Soap
ttp://www.hbamart.com/grisi-so ap-sulfur-jabon-de-azufre-3-15 -oz.html

I also ordered the 1 gallon kit $99 of "Best Yet" Cedarcide spray insectacide
http://www.cedarcidestore.com/page/page/58051...
A non-toxic spray for bedding, bedroom, keyboard, furniture. Also provides non-toxic protection for mosquitos & chiggers in the summertime, better than DEET.

I have a WEALTH of information in my notes, if anyone has questions.

I'm afraid the bumps & itches are probably caused by all those Molting Pouches where the larva leave their molted skins & poop before moving on as adults to create new burrows. Also when they die or are killed in their burrows, their poop & bodies are clearly left behind to itch & torment us. Even if they are all dead as doornails, there is a lot of debris left behind under the skin for our immune systems to clean up. YUK YUK.

I'll be reporting my results sometime next month.

Vann

Since: Nov 09

Milford, PA

#19 Dec 9, 2009
I've been using the A&H for weeks now, but don't feel it's doing any healing. In the bath it is the best item for stopping the itching, crawling, & biting, for about 16hrs. I feel like I'm just spinning my wheels with it. The sulfur soap 10%, & the blue H&S shampoo did the same in the shower, and spraying my bedding down with Windex between laundering has worked good. I've even read that spraying it with rubbing alcohol, works as well, but haven't tried it yet? I don't know which of these 2 are less toxic.

Either way, none of these have driven the mites from my skin, & cured me.

Just one time, using about 6 ounces of original dawn blue liquid in a hot bath, did I see black spots (about the size of a period) appear, and begin leaving the skin on the top of my feet once I got out of the bath.(bird mites?) I have been unable to repeat this though :(
sam

United States

#20 Dec 9, 2009
MikDee, if the H&S intensive shampoo is helping, it might be fungus. Maybe fungus with something else, bacterial or whatever. Good that you get 16 hours of relief.

If it is a fungus, you have to keep up with using it for 4-6 weeks to be completely cured. It isn't a one or a few times use. The instructions for fungal creams say to keep using it even after the itch or rash is gone, to kill it completely. Lamisil says use once a day but my doctor said to use it 2x per day. It cured my feet but this was not the kind of fungus that makes your skin peel between the toes. I've had that kind before. This must have been another kind because there was no peeling, just the crawling and itching.

Ironing sheets helps between laundering. Alcohol is less toxic than windex. Windex is toxic and is banned in some companies in CA, child centers, etc. I got rid of my bed and am so glad I did.
Pokadot Patty

United States

#21 Dec 10, 2009
who="sam"]MikDee, if the H&S intensive shampoo is helping, it might be fungus. Maybe fungus with something else, bacterial or whatever. Good that you get 16 hours of relief.
If it is a fungus, you have to keep up with using it for 4-6 weeks to be completely cured. It isn't a one or a few times use. The instructions for fungal creams say to keep using it even after the itch or rash is gone, to kill it completely. Lamisil says use once a day but my doctor said to use it 2x per day. It cured my feet but this was not the kind of fungus that makes your skin peel between the toes. I've had that kind before. This must have been another kind because there was no peeling, just the crawling and itching.
Ironing sheets helps between laundering. Alcohol is less toxic than windex. Windex is toxic and is banned in some companies in CA, child centers, etc. I got rid of my bed and am so glad I did.
Sam,
Grain alcohol(Everclear) is less irritating to the skin than rubbing alcohol. It mixes well with essential oils for sprays, but it kills them used alone.

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