SCABIES 2013 UPDATES curing or cured

SCABIES 2013 UPDATES curing or cured

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Since: Aug 13

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#1 Sep 22, 2013
Hi,

This is a thread that has to do with scabies only please. No lymes/morgellions/collombia or other off topic diseases.

Basically my story is like many others on this forum. I believed I still had scabies and kept treating.I stopped treating and feel great now.

Please add to this thread successful treatments that you have done or are doing to help new or older sufferes who might get bogged down within this HUGE forum!

If your interested in my scabies ramblings just click my profile for what I have written.
Katee

Homewood, IL

#2 Sep 22, 2013
Hi, I had the same thing happen to me. I had many failures where I was probably being reinfected and never having a good doctor who really knew what to do to deal with scabies.

SORRY, this will be long. Topics - overtreating and folliculitis (which many people have after scabies).

I finally got a good doc, 2 doses of permethrin AND stomectol together a week apart (only, yes I was paranoid and got more meds from the internet and did 4 doses). Boyfriend and kids all did it too. It worked. Kept cleaning and drying sheets everynight, etc. The marks on my body began fading immediately, only I never saw any actual mites emerge or burrows. I was still getting red bumps, not many though. The doc biopsied 4 of them, all came back as folliculitis this time.

He gave me an antibiotic pill and lotion to cure the folliculitis. I began to feel pinpricks and get little red marks with the pricks. Turned out I have a bad allergic reaction to the antibiotic which was cephalexin. I WANT TO CAUTION EVERYONE about this antibiotic!!!

DO your research! This antibiotic has caused hives in people that last for months to years. It gives you the red marks and pinprick feelings and they turn into puffy itchy hives that cover your body. I'm solid red now everywhere except my face and back, but it's spreading. I would recommend that if you have folliculitis at the end of the scabies ordeal, that you just use meds like kids use to get rid of acne and kill bacteria that way and just stay away from any meds. This is a nightmare just like the scabies was, I look like completely scary and diseased and hope this heals soon with the prednisone and antihistimines I now have to take.

So aside from my antibiotic hives, my back had the scabies the worst and is completely clear now amazingly but I still feel crawly sometimes. I did overuse permethrin and ivermectin throughout the year that I had scabies, because I never used them correctly. I'm about a month past my last treatment and the scabies part has cleared. I'm mad as hell about the hives now and wish I had never taken that antibiotic. I was considering a new thread but thought I'd just add to this one because it's on topic.

I know people swear by natural stuff, its a waste of time and prolongs your situation. That might upset a few people reading this but too bad, I've had this over 18 months and tried everything and am mad I listened to that crap. The only thing the natural stuff does (sulfur, tea tree oil, etc.) is help hold it back, it doesn't cure anything. So it's not completely useless, just not a cure. I find tea tree oil helpful during the post scabies though, it just feels good on healing skin.

Just let yourself heal. If you use permethrin and ivermectin, use it correctly so you're not on a rollercoaster. Together, at least 2 doses a week apart! When done, you have to endure and give your skin a chance to heal and it's really hard because your brain is now hardwired to keep fighting. Give it a little time especially if you see the marks are healing and fading. Realize you might have folliculitis in the end from the damage the mites have done, so new marks don't necessarily mean you're not cured. The new marks were more like big zits, they itched too, but different than what I had before. They have gone away now too. The crawlies remain sometimes. I believe this is my skin nerve endings healing from the effects of the permethrin overuse. Permethrin is bad stuff but necessary.

You won't know unless you stop. Just try. If it ends up being reinfection, you can deal with it then but don't re-treat yourself unless you know for sure or you'll never wake up from this nightmare.

Take care.
Honey

Ardsley, NY

#3 Sep 24, 2013
Hello ladies, congrats! Scabiesnighmare how long did you have scabies? Can I ask you ladies, did you symptoms change with time? Katee you said you had this for 18 months. Also what were your symptoms? Best of luck I hope you never get this again.
lmnop

Hollywood, FL

#4 Sep 24, 2013
same posters different names, this is all psycho babble by the same people, over and over on this forum. newbies beware. this is NOT a scabies forum. it's a platform for psychos and sales people selling lotions and tinctures for scabies that really do not work. don't waste your time reading the same psycho babble on this forum every single day. whoever you guys are, you are sick and mean and greedy for doing this.
And this includes hungry ghosts and "Fred." What a waste of time and energy.
Honey

Ardsley, NY

#5 Sep 24, 2013
Umm I was just asking about symptoms...not sure what I'm selling but seems like all your selling is BS. Keep it moving troll, your not helping anyone

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#6 Sep 25, 2013
Honey wrote:
Hello ladies, congrats! Scabiesnighmare how long did you have scabies? Can I ask you ladies, did you symptoms change with time? Katee you said you had this for 18 months. Also what were your symptoms? Best of luck I hope you never get this again.
Hi Honey,

To answer your question I was inflicted total 16 weeks. 4 of those weeks was waiting for the onset of symptoms once I was informed I was with a contagious person.

Before any treatments my symptoms were, small skin coloured bumps that formed a grid pattern around my knees and back of my thighs. The one's behind my thighs spread gradually.I also noticed red lines under my skin that formed a web pattern, these look like varicose veins but red. They grew larger over time forming intricate tunnels.I did not notice these within the first few weeks as I wasn't really looking. These are now only beginning to fade. I also had some strange pimples popping up on my arms. I was not itchy so I was in denial I caught it.

By the fourth week I received my first itch at night in bed, the worst itchy spot on my arm. Once the itch stopped I felt a slow crawl of mites go down my arm and some down my leg and disappear.This freaked me out. The next day I inspected my body and was shocked to see my knees with the bumps and red lines. I treated 3 days after with permithrin.

After the first treatment my symptoms moved towards itching and crawling and at night I would feel mites seep out from different areas and bite me making me itch.I had to keep applying cream on spots at night and during the day to deal with it. This went on for 2 weeks before I did another scabicide ascabiol where my body went into over drive with crawling. A week after that the itching eased only slightly. I kept treating every week at that point.My symptoms were bumps, red lines, red pimple bumps and a rash.The rash I got from the permithrin.

I did not let up treating until I could lie in bed at night and not get bitten which did happen.I switched back to permithrin and was treating mid week when I broke through. My skin went all red in places of burrows, this itch was different and the crawling was more like wiggling and I still had the seeping sensations. I was falling asleep at night and did not need my cream during the day. My skin healed finally and I felt somewhat normal.

My hands and other body parts took a long while to clear but I still felt crawling on my feet, on my head in 4 spots and a few spots on my face, my eyelashes were full of wiggling...bloody horrible. I did 4 face treatments, which sux as your skin drys out.

I did get confused between mite sensation and permithrin after effects. Mite sensation is more direct on your skin, you feel it move from A to B to C whereas permithrin is a faster sensation that sweeps across your skin and it also can be more centralised, to one spot. The wiggling well I am still not sure, this could be demodex mites or living/dying mites...not sure.

The pinpricks well some people experience this before treatments. If it's like an electric shock then thats your nerves.

Red spots, confusing. I think its from mites so this is active and it's also from skin damage from scratching and scabicides. This is because some heal while others do not.

Your hands will look blotchy near the webs of your fingers, you will get cuts on your hands and small fluid filled blisters. Some of this is post scabies. Its so hard to tell as when you treat you have a mix bag of symptoms.

Hope this helps.

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#7 Sep 25, 2013
lmnop wrote:
same posters different names, this is all psycho babble by the same people, over and over on this forum. newbies beware. this is NOT a scabies forum. it's a platform for psychos and sales people selling lotions and tinctures for scabies that really do not work. don't waste your time reading the same psycho babble on this forum every single day. whoever you guys are, you are sick and mean and greedy for doing this.
And this includes hungry ghosts and "Fred." What a waste of time and energy.
VSS, quit using your many profiles to judge these posts as spam etc. Your so blind now that you do not recognise real experience posts from scam posts.If people are that stupid, like you, to fall for scams then that's their lessons to learn. Meanwhile the rest of us are getting on with it and curing. How do you think noobs feel when all they see are numerous spam, nuts and clueless judgements, how the hell are they suppose to make any sense out of all this.

If your so smart start your own thread where all the noobs can go to as a resource and ignore the rest of this forum rather than hide behind many names and never DISCLOSE your condition or treatments you have done. Since 2010 you have been posting....thats pretty sad and your not even cured so why take advice from you anyway.

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#8 Sep 25, 2013
Oh, you have posted your herbal remedies for some things, but your probably a salesperson yeah?
vss

Hollywood, FL

#9 Sep 25, 2013
Calm down. I am not in competition with you.
GettingFree

National City, CA

#10 Sep 26, 2013
Honey wrote:
Hello ladies, congrats! Scabiesnighmare how long did you have scabies? Can I ask you ladies, did you symptoms change with time? Katee you said you had this for 18 months. Also what were your symptoms? Best of luck I hope you never get this again.
Well stated, Honey!!
GettingFree

National City, CA

#11 Sep 26, 2013
Scabiesxnightmare wrote:
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VSS, quit using your many profiles to judge these posts as spam etc. Your so blind now that you do not recognise real experience posts from scam posts.If people are that stupid, like you, to fall for scams then that's their lessons to learn. Meanwhile the rest of us are getting on with it and curing. How do you think noobs feel when all they see are numerous spam, nuts and clueless judgements, how the hell are they suppose to make any sense out of all this.
If your so smart start your own thread where all the noobs can go to as a resource and ignore the rest of this forum rather than hide behind many names and never DISCLOSE your condition or treatments you have done. Since 2010 you have been posting....thats pretty sad and your not even cured so why take advice from you anyway.
And to you Scabiesxnightmare: Also well stated!!
vss

Hollywood, FL

#12 Sep 26, 2013
GettingFree wrote:
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And to you Scabiesxnightmare: Also well stated!!
Oh Getting Free!! Wad up? Are you interested or do you have any involvement with Natural Genisis, Kleen Green? I believe you do. Don't like me much, do you? Get off the net and find a real job... Kleen Green does not cure scabies. Scabicides like permethrin and anti-parasitics like ivermectin cure scabies. Do you have anything to offer here on this forum, other than picking on me, because I always point out the scams that are out there on the net... But, you are right, Kleen Green is not that expensive, can be used environmentally and on your body, but for a true cure of scabies you need true scabicides. Only for light cases of scabies, may this product work. I speak the truth, but all you guys here who like to ramble on and on, most of you guys are up to no good. Sorry, but I speak the truth...
I would say about 60% of the people posting here on this forum are NOW selling stuff and post incognito. I'm not blind. I'm aware. This forum was spot on back before 2010. Anything after that, it's for the wolves, and you, my dear are one of them.

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#13 Sep 26, 2013
@gettingfree thanks.

The irony here is I am cured. All my previous posts have been judged by VSS and CO as clueless and nuts or spam. I do admit to being clueless at time's but aren't we all in the beginning when suffering scabies neurosis?

So many people are scared by this forum from misconceptions like, you cannot be cured and you have to take extreme measures to cure your self. This would only be the case in permithrin resistence scabies or reinfection and only then would you take ivermiticin.

Look at crusted scabies patients then look at yourself, really, they have it bad!

As for spam, marking normal posts as spam for no justified reason is reducing this forum into a pointless exercise.

I don't really want to stick around on this forum anymore now I don't have scabies. The only problem is when I am reading posts some people's stories are heartbreaking. People are suffering for no reason whatsover, they don't have scabies anymore I am sure of it and I could be wrong but certain people are propogating the fear that you have to keep treating and you will never be cured.

So really that's why I am still around.I know from first hand experience how easy it is to still consider yourself infected.

The worst part is, this post will be judged badly,(spam, nuts, clueless or disagree) which only proves my point that there are forum trolls out there who do not want you to get better.



Since: Aug 13

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#14 Sep 26, 2013
VSS,

seriously, please start a thread outling all the products that are scams.

People can read this and make an independant decision. This way you do not have to keep polluting genuine posts.The information will be all nice and tidy and then you can vent all you want, don't worry I am sure you wont get attacked as being a crazy troll or sued by the companies.
GettingFree

National City, CA

#15 Sep 26, 2013
You're very welcome and I agree with you. However, if anyone sorts through these posts, they will quickly identify the resident troll.

I have tried to post my story on here for you and others, however the posts I made above are the only one that showed up. I'm not sure what that problem is.

Please stay a while longer--we also need the troll alerts. I am sure people don't pay attention to the judging--or it will alert them to read the post. LOL
GettingFree

National City, CA

#16 Sep 26, 2013
Well, that's silly--my other post wouldn't through and the one above went through twice--go figure.
GettingFree

National City, CA

#17 Sep 26, 2013
Hi Guys--Staying on topic now, I must report my success. My symptoms were diagnosed in July. My husband and I were given a prescription for permethrin. It was not filled as we started researching for safer alternatives.

We bought the scabies-killer and used it for about 3 weeks as directed. Unfortunately, it did not work for us. The rashes and bites just got worse and worse. The perm was looking better and better as we were getting desperate.

We were also using sulfur soap, which kills anything on the surface, but not under the skin. I believe sulfur soap is a good addition to a regimen though.

Then I stumbled onto a thread where Kleen Green was mentioned as having helped someone. I Googled it and found testimonials on both Amazon and the Natural Ginesis website. It was the most testimonals about a cure that I had found. In addition, there were detailed instructions for ridding home and body of these little suckers!! Furthermore, it was concentrated enzymes. Thus one dilutes in a ratio of 1:7. At this dilution, a half gallon makes 4 gallons of treatment. It is also used to spray your furniture, bedding, and all surfaces.

Sounds too good to be true, but I figured, "What the heck?!" and bought a half gallon.

I received the product on August 24th and started spraying myself immediately. After the first 24 hours, neither my husband nor I received any new bites. That in itself gave us hope.

After that the itching of active scabies went away. There was still an itch, but much less intense and we both slept through the night and every night thereafter.

Our skin calmed down and the rashes started lightening up. The bumps started flattening.

I have only seen two posts on this forum wherein it was stated that K-Green helped by cutting down the numbers, but not curing the problem. The posters did not intimate how they used K-Green or for how long. Therefore there is no information as to whether they used it incorrectly, or whether it just didn't work on them.

I can only tell you that my experience is one of a complete cure that took about 3 weeks of spraying and massaging it into my skin four times a day.(I did the cleaning routine and changing of bedding daily as well.)

I still use it once or twice a day, or I skip a day. I no longer itch and did not have to endure the "perm-itch" or post scabies syndrome. It was really quite simple and easy, and immediately made my skin feel clean and fantastic.

So, I have no horror story to tell you (other than the usual horror story of infestation before I found this K-Green). I only have a success story and know that others can and have experienced the same success!

Thank you Scabiesxnightmare for starting this thread.

If anyone wants to try it, but feels uncomfortable about spending any more money, or has doubts about its efficacy, I would suggest trying a quart size. You will then have a gallon of treatment and if it is working for you, get you can decide to order more. Its safe for children as well.
GettingFree

National City, CA

#18 Sep 26, 2013
GettingFree wrote:
You're very welcome and I agree with you. However, if anyone sorts through these posts, they will quickly identify the resident troll.
I have tried to post my story on here for you and others, however the posts I made above are the only one that showed up. I'm not sure what that problem is.
Please stay a while longer--we also need the troll alerts. I am sure people don't pay attention to the judging--or it will alert them to read the post. LOL
BTW--this post was was directed to Scabiesxnightmare and not to vss and her/his multiple personalities. I agree with you Scabiesxnightmare. And I will staying for awhile too. Like I said, I can only share my experience and hope that telling my story can help others. I know you feel the same.

Since: Aug 13

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#19 Sep 26, 2013
GettingFree wrote:
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BTW--this post was was directed to Scabiesxnightmare and not to vss and her/his multiple personalities. I agree with you Scabiesxnightmare. And I will staying for awhile too. Like I said, I can only share my experience and hope that telling my story can help others. I know you feel the same.
No worries, just wanted to clarify, did you and your husband actaully use the permithrin cream at all?
Honey

Springfield, NJ

#20 Sep 26, 2013
Congrats GetFree, I know a lot of people on the birdmites site swear by it.
Did you put in a bath? Or use on laundry?

Don't worry about VSS. I heard she works for the makers of P-cream and iver that she's in pharmaceutical sales.

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