Scabies on the head
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big daddy

Telluride, CO

#1 Jan 30, 2009
My mom has scabies on her body as well as on her head. the instructions for using the permethin lotion only call for using it from the neck down and not in her hair. What about the scabies on her head?
duite

United States

#2 Jan 30, 2009
she needs to apply it to her scalp, and through her hair. If she has long hair, she might try to supplement the perm with a lice shampoo, also I have long hair and I think my flat iron is probably a good deterent
Angel

Dalian, China

#3 Jan 30, 2009
In my opinion, no matter you have scabies on the head or not, you should treat your head. Because it is possible that the mites move from the treated area to the untreated area.

That lice shampoo has only 1% Permethrin. I'm afraid it can not kill scabies. You have Perm lotion. It is watery. It is good for treating the head. The longer your hair is, the more lotion you need. It takes me 30-40ml loiton to treat my head. A lot of loition go to the hair.
duite

United States

#4 Jan 30, 2009
the lice shampoo will help!! Also some posters have talked about the blue bottle of head and shoulders has helped--anything that is a deterent, some may be burrowed in scalp but these topicals will get rid of the surface mites. I think to get the burowed youneed ivermectin or something that will penetrate the scalp.
sarah

Thunder Bay, Canada

#5 Jan 30, 2009
When I had scabies it was the most horrible thing , I felt uncomfortable around everyone and thought it would never end,there is a quick way to end your breakout safely. Permethrin does not work folks if you have had scabies for a couple weeks and it is dangerous.

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scabiebabies

United States

#6 Jan 31, 2009
I got scabies probably about a week ago, but i felt a little itching under my knee a couple of days prior, Im pretty sure i have scabies although i had to spell it out for the doctor as i went to a free clinic. im 80% sure they are scabies, as my friend had them and i slept in his bed.
They dont itch that bad and they barely act up at night no more then the day, I live in a wharehouse and theres no way i can go thru this for more then once, Im worried that I have them on my face and scalp although the other areas that i have them are way crazier then these places and i have a bored tendancy to itch my face and scalp anyways, my questions are:
DO you guys think the cream is harmful to your face more so then the rest of the body?
Does it get in your pubic hair? should i put some cream there too??
would it be obvious physically if they were in my head like they are on the back of my knee?
how long before i stop itching after i put the cream on if i dont really itch right now?
what do i use to clean my couches?
and how do i morn my scaby baby's with honor?

sorry i typed so much, its just scary annd frusterating as you all know.
thanks for your prior knowlage,
luna
scared

Ashfield, MA

#7 Jan 31, 2009
scabiebabies wrote:
I got scabies probably about a week ago, but i felt a little itching under my knee a couple of days prior, Im pretty sure i have scabies although i had to spell it out for the doctor as i went to a free clinic. im 80% sure they are scabies, as my friend had them and i slept in his bed.
They dont itch that bad and they barely act up at night no more then the day, I live in a wharehouse and theres no way i can go thru this for more then once, Im worried that I have them on my face and scalp although the other areas that i have them are way crazier then these places and i have a bored tendancy to itch my face and scalp anyways, my questions are:
DO you guys think the cream is harmful to your face more so then the rest of the body?
Does it get in your pubic hair? should i put some cream there too??
would it be obvious physically if they were in my head like they are on the back of my knee?
how long before i stop itching after i put the cream on if i dont really itch right now?
what do i use to clean my couches?
and how do i morn my scaby baby's with honor?
sorry i typed so much, its just scary annd frusterating as you all know.
thanks for your prior knowlage,
luna
I put the perm cream on head to toe.. that means in my hair and on my face. I covered entire body. It didn't bother my face at all. I will say after I treated, a few days later my head itched and felt like I had crawlies. I realized that I didn't have scabies in my hair... It was a reaction to the cream. I also think it was a mental game. Think about it long enough and you feel the mites crawling on you... It takes a long time to stop itching. I am still getting a little bump here or there. So, I am not sure I am cured yet but I will tell you, it takes anywhere from 4 to 6 weeks to stop itching in the old spots. The itch will come and go. I would have two or three days with no itching, than it would start back up again. As far as, cleaning your couch, you need to. I have leather so I vacuumed it everyday for a week and I used bleach and water to wipe it down with. I also sprayed flea spray on them... Good luck
panicked in Florida

Ponte Vedra Beach, FL

#8 Jan 31, 2009
I scrubbed myself with Dial soap with a back brush. I ordered Quellada M 0.5% and Kwellada P Cream Rinse 1%. I bought 2 huge bottles of hydrogen peroxide and Off insect spray and also purchased some Pronto supposed to kill bed bugs and dust mites. Ugghhh
Im so pissed off at my Dr for not knowing what this is since I went to her twice in the course of 4mos. Crap.. I even asked is this scabies?? Because I never had a rash like this and my neck broke out immediately after the beauty salon. I have a new kitten I am afraid Im going to give it to him. Im so upset.. Im supposed to have company tonite I dont really want to tell anybody :-(
Bruce

AOL

#9 Jan 31, 2009
panicked in Florida wrote:
I scrubbed myself with Dial soap with a back brush. I ordered Quellada M 0.5% and Kwellada P Cream Rinse 1%. I bought 2 huge bottles of hydrogen peroxide and Off insect spray and also purchased some Pronto supposed to kill bed bugs and dust mites. Ugghhh
Im so pissed off at my Dr for not knowing what this is since I went to her twice in the course of 4mos. Crap.. I even asked is this scabies?? Because I never had a rash like this and my neck broke out immediately after the beauty salon. I have a new kitten I am afraid Im going to give it to him. Im so upset.. Im supposed to have company tonite I dont really want to tell anybody :-(
IMPORTANT!!!
CANCEL THE COMPANY! Scabies can be acquired from a simple handshake or from just touchng a surface, any surface, which has not been thoroughly disinfected. You may very easily end up passing it aroung among your friends and having it some back to you through future contact with any one of them, or from simply touching a surface that they have inadvertently infected with the mites before they realize they have acquired the problem. An illustration of just one of the reasons that scabies has become a silent epidemic in the United States!
Bruce

AOL

#10 Jan 31, 2009
A major reasosn that scabies has become a silent epidemic in the United States is the large number of illegal aliens that are entering the country each year. When my mother and her family immigrated to the U.S. from Lithuania in the early 1900's virtually all immigrants entered the country through Ellis Island in New York. There they were detained until each had gone through a thorough decontamination process, which included a delousing procedure which was required whether they were infested or not. Just how many of those illegal immigrants coming into the country now do you think go through such examination and decontamination!? ZERO!!! And after the ones entering across our southern border jam packed into trailers and other vehicles, you can bet that after one or more days in the vehicle that if only one of them had scabies when they started the trip, by the time they enter the U.S. and get out of the vehicle just about every one of them will have unknowingly acquired scabies. And guesss how may of them will end up utilising free washroom/toilet/restroom facilities at filling stations, department stores, supermarkets, etc. because they need to! And guess how many of them will try on clothes off the rack at department stores, discount stores, etc. and then put them back on the clothes rack if the piece of clothing was the wrong size!
Jilly

South Brisbane, Australia

#11 Jan 31, 2009
Bruce wrote:
<quoted text>
IMPORTANT!!!
CANCEL THE COMPANY! Scabies can be acquired from a simple handshake or from just touchng a surface, any surface, which has not been thoroughly disinfected. You may very easily end up passing it aroung among your friends and having it some back to you through future contact with any one of them, or from simply touching a surface that they have inadvertently infected with the mites before they realize they have acquired the problem. An illustration of just one of the reasons that scabies has become a silent epidemic in the United States!
Hi Guys
I have been battling this problem for minumun 0f 2 yrs. Doctors Say no scabies derm says same. It is very hard to do a scraping exACTLY WHERE THE MITE IS. I have that many tracts now i can see them plainly. Thought i was over it but i am sure they sit dormant in the colder months or i keep getting reinfected. My son has a bad rash on stomach but says its not that. I know it is same as i have though. I finally got some Imax gold iver & praziquantel and had 2 dozes one Wed & one thurs and will retreat a week from then with same and having bleach baths. Feel better skin looks healthier in colour but still bitescome & go legs were bad so i treated for a solid week with perm 5%. I will post again in a week or so and let you know. There is a post from someone called evangelist and he works in nursing home & he says bleach baths fix them. All the best its a hard call but you will get cured.
Jilly

South Brisbane, Australia

#12 Jan 31, 2009
panicked in Florida wrote:
I scrubbed myself with Dial soap with a back brush. I ordered Quellada M 0.5% and Kwellada P Cream Rinse 1%. I bought 2 huge bottles of hydrogen peroxide and Off insect spray and also purchased some Pronto supposed to kill bed bugs and dust mites. Ugghhh
Im so pissed off at my Dr for not knowing what this is since I went to her twice in the course of 4mos. Crap.. I even asked is this scabies??
Because I never had a rash like this and my neck broke out immediately after the beauty salon. I have a new kitten I am afraid Im going to give it to him. Im so upset.. Im supposed to have company tonite I dont really want to tell anybody :-(
Hi again
I have a lumpy freckle type rash and i think the mites are under these freckles or part of it. Anyway on the Quellada bottle it says to apply once for min of 8 hrs then wash clothes and linen no special care neede!!!! I vacc every day, I mop my floors with boiling water i have leather couches, I wash my towels & sheets on 95degrees hot wash. I used to dry clothes in dryer on hot but now i iron everything on high that goes near my skin & still have problems. But i will get there soon i pray. I sympathize with you all this is the worst thing. I think God i punishing me for all the wrong things i have done in my 55 years here. Bye for now
panicked in Florida

Ponte Vedra Beach, FL

#13 Feb 1, 2009
Bruce wrote:
A major reasosn that scabies has become a silent epidemic in the United States is the large number of illegal aliens that are entering the country each year. When my mother and her family immigrated to the U.S. from Lithuania in the early 1900's virtually all immigrants entered the country through Ellis Island in New York. There they were detained until each had gone through a thorough decontamination process, which included a delousing procedure which was required whether they were infested or not. Just how many of those illegal immigrants coming into the country now do you think go through such examination and decontamination!? ZERO!!! And after the ones entering across our southern border jam packed into trailers and other vehicles, you can bet that after one or more days in the vehicle that if only one of them had scabies when they started the trip, by the time they enter the U.S. and get out of the vehicle just about every one of them will have unknowingly acquired scabies. And guesss how may of them will end up utilising free washroom/toilet/restroom facilities at filling stations, department stores, supermarkets, etc. because they need to! And guess how many of them will try on clothes off the rack at department stores, discount stores, etc. and then put them back on the clothes rack if the piece of clothing was the wrong size!
Hi Bruce, thanks, absolutely right. I went to the Dr yesterday and she prescribed invectin (sp?) and prem. cream. When I picked up my prescriptions from the pharmacy I found they cost $55.00. Insurance doesn't even cover the invectin (oral pills). I guess its silent because no one wants to admit to it. good grief
Anyways, Im feeling much better didnt itch at all last night. This is what i did;
I sprayed Pronto all over the bed my computer key board (very carefully) removed my wrist pad for key board and the cushion on the leather chair I use. Sprayed that area pretty good. I've been taking for the last 3 days 2 showers. Morning and evening. I change my sheets daily, except last night I didnt. I bought a back scrubber and some Dial soap. I used a nylon spongey thing to lather up myself and then the back scrubber to scrub every piece of myself. I think that helped alot.
I used head and shoulders making sure I got the one with sulphur (because they have another kind with zinc as the key ingredient) read the label. I scrubbed that into my skin with the nylon spongey thing. I sprayed all the areas that I sit and I vacumed.
I didnt itch last night and oh yeah, since my hands were hurting so bad i put aloe vera on them.
This morning they look better.
panicked in Florida

Ponte Vedra Beach, FL

#14 Feb 1, 2009
Jilly wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi again
I have a lumpy freckle type rash and i think the mites are under these freckles or part of it. Anyway on the Quellada bottle it says to apply once for min of 8 hrs then wash clothes and linen no special care neede!!!! I vacc every day, I mop my floors with boiling water i have leather couches, I wash my towels & sheets on 95degrees hot wash. I used to dry clothes in dryer on hot but now i iron everything on high that goes near my skin & still have problems. But i will get there soon i pray. I sympathize with you all this is the worst thing. I think God i punishing me for all the wrong things i have done in my 55 years here. Bye for now
I felt the same way, it must be karma, but on the other hand maybe its just a battle that will make us stronger in the end. I remember when my daughter was a baby and there was an outbreak of impetigo and my Dr. suggested that I use Dial soap, I did and she was lucky not to have caught it. I stocked up on the stuff and will always carry some kind of kill germ gel. I honestly feel much better after using it. I used the back brush and a nylon spongey thing. I plan to use the invectrin and the permy cream and all the other stuff next weekend but I want to be sure and treat my kitty at the same time. Coz even if the nasty little mites cant fulfill a lifecycle on him they can at least hide until im done treating and then try and jump on me again. littel b'strds.:-) This is a battle.. Im keeping them at bay right now but I plan to flea bomb the house the car and put my cat in the vet and myself on holiday they dont stand a chance. I hope. wish me luck.
I cancelled the company. but what do you tell people? Most everyone thinks I have psoriasis.
panicked in Florida

Ponte Vedra Beach, FL

#15 Feb 1, 2009
Oh, I havent used Dial soap in 10 years, my daughters off and married. I will always use Dial from now on... Im going to save a fortune in toiletries maybe to make up for the expense for all this bug medication. :)
duite

United States

#16 Feb 1, 2009
Hey panicked,

I probably would let them think it is psoriasis and just stay away from them for now. I got a good tip from pregress--you may have already done this. He suggested to not shower for as long as possible after iverm and to drink grapefruit juice, also said that a fatty meal helps with the effectiveness of iverm. He give the reasoning for these and makes sense, you may have already read hi post. Good luck
panicked in Florida

Ponte Vedra Beach, FL

#17 Feb 1, 2009
thanks duite, i will do that and i didn't see that post, so thanks. how did you catch yours? i can't believe how long mine went undiagnosed. i went to the Dr. 4 times, 2 different ones.
Thank God for the internet. I just happenned to type in skin conditions and saw photos that could have been taken of my own hands. I knew immediately what it was. it's a real shame. im frustrated, pissed off and would like to do something to help other people. those meds were over $50. what about the folks that cant afford it? we should start some kind of non-profit organization to help those less fortunate to get the stuff they need to combat these little buggers.
Bruce

AOL

#18 Feb 1, 2009
panicked in Florida wrote:
Oh, I havent used Dial soap in 10 years, my daughters off and married. I will always use Dial from now on... Im going to save a fortune in toiletries maybe to make up for the expense for all this bug medication.:)
Two other types of soap you may want to try are Original Sulfur Soap and the newer version, SAL3, both at SulfurSoap.com . Both are 10% sulfur, but the SAL3 also is 3% salicylic acid. The sulfur kills surface mites and the salicylic acid is added for its skin friendly properties, making it useful for acne, psoriasis, and dandruff as well. It lathers up extremely well for use as a shampoo. One other soap you might try is a colloidal silver soap; colloidal silver is an effective natural antiseptic. You can purchase it at UtopiaSilver .com - it's their Utopia Natural Silver Aloe Skin Care Bar. It makes a good followup to the sulfur soap as the sulfur tends to dry out the skin, but the silver aloe bar in addition to being a good antiseptic is a good moisturizer and has a pleasant lavender vanilla scent. Some people use the Original Sulfur Soap as a basic hand soap and spot treatment and the SAL3 and the colloidal silver soap in the bath/shower.
Bruce

AOL

#19 Feb 1, 2009
Note that SulfurSoap.com now also carries an excellent sulfur ointment, which has become a difficult to find item. At their home page see the tool bar at the top of the page for the ointment. Also here is a typo correction for the UtopiaSilver.com Link.
panicked in Florida

Ponte Vedra Beach, FL

#20 Feb 1, 2009
Thanks Bruce, I think I ordered a bunch of stuff already and its still not here yet. I figured out it was nasty scabies last Saturday. The only thing Ive received so far is the Pronto bug spray that I ordered from Amazon. I ordered some soap and neem cream and even tea tree oil from some place that somebody on one of these forum pages said was good. The problem is finding this stuff and getting it NOW. you know what I mean? Anyways, I used to get complements on my skin, now my hands look like I have some kind of leporacy or something. boo hoo

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