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i got a rash after using Permetrin!! is it scabies???

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scareofscabies

West Covina, CA

#1 Jan 18, 2010
my boyfriend n i came back from a trip and he was told he has scabies by his doctor. this news scares me because i was with him for the whole month on the trip. so i decided to see the doctor and ask for permetrin as well for protection treatment. at the time, i didnt have ANY sign of scabies ( no red bumps, no itcy..nothing) so i took that 5% cream and couple hours later.. i have red bumps n theyre ITCHY! doesnt mean that i have scabies now? the bumps looks like my boyfriends.. i did the research n some people said they have a rash that looks like scabies after taking perm5%. Now i have about 30 little bumps on me n theyre red n itchy. Do i have scabies now after taking Permetrin? please help!!!!
Vann from Tennessee

Stanton, TN

#2 Jan 19, 2010
Permethrin is a toxic poison and can cause dermatitis and more problems.
http://www.safe2use.com/poisons-pesticides/pe...

I suggest curing your Scabies using non-toxic products. The very best method of killing ALL mites, bedbugs, lice, etc is by using Food Grade 100% Diatomacious Earth. That is how I cured my Scabies, and several of us here at Topix are now using DE to cure scabies. Inexpensive and easy. Details at this thread:
http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/T47...

More about DE here:
http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/diatomaceou ...
http://www.earthworksde.com/page/page/4101795 ...
http://www.earthworkshealth.com/organic-pest -...
* No toxic chemical soaking in a bathtub
* No danger of giving yourself Dermatitis
* No expensive doctors & poisonous drugs
* No toxic skin creams

Vann
Vann from Tennessee

Stanton, TN

#3 Jan 19, 2010
FYI,
Here is a very nice article on Permethrin:
http://www.questdiagnostics.com/kbase/topic/d...

Vann
CHILL DA SCABIES OUT

Sant Boi De Llobregat, Spain

#4 Jan 19, 2010
After being diagnosed with scabies( I still have no clue who brought it into my house) I did what the doctor told me ( not very common with me) and applied Permetrhin 5% one time washed my sheets and clothing that I had worn or slept in for the last week,quarantined all clothing that I couldn't dry or wash,and 6 days later the difference is a world to me.

I developed A rash from permethin and it was quite annoying but not more than the thought of dragging scabies around 4ever, the doctor checked me out and said "no signs of present infestation", so I guess I'm closer to feel scabies free. My message to the forum is:

Please sToP reading horror stories in the "INTERNETS", your brain is a place scabies won't go but you can fill your head with peoples horrific tales. you will itch after treatment, but is a different itch way more noticeable but less insidious, is like a burning effect, you will develop more bite looking spots in the coming days after the cream is applied but after 5 days you'll feel that many spots have come and gone in 2 or 3 days, and you have to remember all those itching bumps you had for weeks if not months, they where not very painful but always there in the same spots, now if you have a clean environment and have followed treatment , those will have disappeared or dried up.

THIS IS NOT A CHRONIC DISEASE.

get well all of you
Reina

Boca Raton, FL

#5 Jan 19, 2010
I've also gotten a rash from Permethrin. I kept thinking it wasn't working and, of course, the more you use it, the more damage it does to your skin. After treatment I was diagnosed with contact dermatitis. It seems pretty common for scabies sufferers. The rash is bumpy and red and flares up like scabies, but after you stop treating with Perm it stops spreading all over. It just remains VERY irritated. And I am not someone with sensitive skin at all.

So yeah, be kind to your skin. Stop treating. Take an oatmeal bath or two, use some Cetaphil body lotion to soothe. Try to give your skin a rest. Take cool showers when you flare up. Hope you feel better.
PermedOutMaybe

Chicago, IL

#6 Jan 19, 2010
Hi, My husband, two children, and I have all taken 2 rounds of permethrin a week apart but we're still seeing new red spots (or even unexplained red lines that look like scratches an inch or two in length). I also took an Iver pill with each Perm treatment (I was the one it started with, presumably picked it up while traveling a lot in the past few months).
In my case, I first feel a sting, or bite, at night, and then I can feel a bump on my skin. When I get up in the am, sure enough I have the bright red bumps. My husband gets the scratch lines (though he's not scratching) and he doesn't feel any bite, he just notices the lines.
I've treated our environment like crazy, vacuuming nearly every day since diagnosed, changing the sheets daily and hot washing with Borax and drying for at least 45 minutes (though I'm not sure my hot water is hot enough - it says it's set at 130 but when I put my hand in it to test, it doesn't feel burning hot like I want).
We've also started bleach baths (which has cleaned up my old original spots nicely) and using Neem oil and shampoo.
Do you think we're still infested or does this sound like a post-Perm effect? I'm going to see the derm again tomorrow for her opinion. Thank you for any insight/experience you can offer, and for those struggling with us, may you get cured soon and stayed cured.
Vann from Tennessee

Stanton, TN

#7 Jan 19, 2010
Please stop damaging your skin with poisonous drugs,
insane cleaning, washing & laundry schedules and get your life back to normal. Join with our little group here using a non-toxic cure for scabies, mites, lice. Details here:
http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/T47...

Vann

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#8 Jan 19, 2010
I'm beginning to get seriously pissed off with your posts to people Vann ,old and new(myself included),despite your often useful information that you post.
You've had a serious go at people who don't answer precise questions yet here you are not doing what you preach.
'I've treated our environment like crazy, vacuuming nearly every day since diagnosed, changing the sheets daily and hot washing with Borax and drying for at least 45 minutes (though I'm not sure my hot water is hot enough - it says it's set at 130 but when I put my hand in it to test'
What on earth is wrong with that ? Surely that is exactly what you should do irrespective of which treatment one CHOOSES to do.
PermedOutMaybe - there is no 'our little group'..you'll have to make your own mind up as everyone has to.
Vann From TN Has No Life

Spartanburg, SC

#9 Jan 19, 2010
I agree with benG1 - your posts are inflammatory. Step away from the computer, man.
birdmitestorture d

United States

#10 Jan 19, 2010
benG1 wrote:
I'm beginning to get seriously pissed off with your posts to people Vann ,old and new(myself included),despite your often useful information that you post.
You've had a serious go at people who don't answer precise questions yet here you are not doing what you preach.
'I've treated our environment like crazy, vacuuming nearly every day since diagnosed, changing the sheets daily and hot washing with Borax and drying for at least 45 minutes (though I'm not sure my hot water is hot enough - it says it's set at 130 but when I put my hand in it to test'
What on earth is wrong with that ? Surely that is exactly what you should do irrespective of which treatment one CHOOSES to do.
PermedOutMaybe - there is no 'our little group'..you'll have to make your own mind up as everyone has to.
Use Ammonia in your washings, I don't worry much on how hot the water is anymore since I started adding ammonia to all my washings, it kills the sob's in the machine. Then I just dry in high for about 30 minutes, and finally leave them inside a plastic bag with Bounce sheets for 2 or 3 days before placing them in the clear plastic bins I'm using to store my clothings.
CHILL DA SCABIES OUT

Sant Boi De Llobregat, Spain

#11 Jan 20, 2010
My Dermatologist advised me that one treatment is more than enough, that over-treatment does not improve the time it takes for the effects to go away, and definitely does not improve the health of your skin.

I Have a microscope and have been able to observe the damage that permethrin does to the outer layer of the skin, it dries the surface, BAD, so all the itching and effects come from decomposing feces and dead mites inside our skin, the shock your body goes trough ( it sounds bad but it's the way it is, and has always been), and the over dried skin, my gf has not had a reaction to the cream so I can assure that not everyone reacts the same to the same treatment, but if you have not treated your scabies before, one treatment should suffice. After one week no buggers on me and I still itch.

You will get bumps for days to come, but in all fairness you should see that after one week most of the spots have gone, and the new ones las shorter than the ones caused by scabies.

I would not buy unprescribed solutions from the advertisers in this forums, most are just preying on our fear and disinformation, when permethrin 5% just costs under 20$ for a large tube and does the job.

Just remember worrying is a normal process, obsession and fear are not, this is just about the most common skin problem in the world.

get well
Vann from Tennessee

United States

#12 Jan 20, 2010
Definition of insane = Doing the same things over and over and expecting a different result. Going off the deep end doing laundry, excessive scrubbing & cleaning the house certainly can't hurt, but adds to the fear factor and anxiety.

We did none of those things and cured my Scabies by making Diatomacious Earth do ALL the hard work. This is a very simple and EZ cure. Just force the little monsters to crawl through DE while searching for their meal. That is their weakness. They must search for us or die.

I'm so sad you don't like my message. I have done the research and I have read ALL the message threads here.

Trust me, people have been suffering with these little monsters for many months or YEARS, have moved, thrown away their clothing, tossed out their furniture, suffered divorces. Worse, doctors have even called them crazy, and witch doctor "cures" here have not helped them. Don't believe me? Then start reading all the message screens like I did.

Vann
Vann from Tennessee

United States

#13 Jan 20, 2010
Worse, people get so desperate that they do things that cause drug or chemical Dermatitus.

View the results of dermatitus:
http://www.skinsight.com/adult/drugEruption.h...
http://www.skinsight.com/adult/contactDermati...
http://www.skinsight.com/adult/irritantContac...
http://www.aafp.org/fpr/assembly2004/1016/5.h...
http://health.allrefer.com/health/eczema-atop...
http://www.dermnet.com/Seborrheic-Dermatitis/...
http://www.dermnet.com/Seborrheic-Dermatitis/...
So bottom line, whatever you do, make sure that your
treatments are NON-TOXIC. Can you see the difference between Scabies and Dermatitus that we do to ourselves?

Vann
Reina

United States

#14 Jan 24, 2010
Hey all - just a quick update to my post above. I'm still healing from the use of Permethrin. I have not had a relapse of scabies. The post-Perm rash is mostly affects the places where my scabies were highly concentrated, and where I double and triple treated.

It is no coincidence. Perm does damage your skin and the recovery is as uncomfortable, ugly and itchy as the scabies themselves. I think if I'd treated just once, it would be ok. The areas I only lightly treated are totally healed now. The other areas are scaly, leathery, peeling, slightly bump, red and greyish.

I'm going to create a separate post about how I've been trying to heal this aftereffect but I'll drop some ideas of things that have helped me in addition to the oatmeal bath and Cetaphil.

- Palmer's Cocoa Butter salve (the solid tub full - NOT a lotion).
- Neutrogena's Light Sesame Oil. I don't put this on the parts of my body that are still really bad. I just keep the freshly healed areas moist with this. It's not greasy and absorbs nicely.

I hope anyone reading this who thinks they have the same thing is able to find some relief soon.
SAMFAM5

Maumee, OH

#15 Dec 2, 2011
I am concerned about reusing permethrin as well even though i have used it about 4 months apart. Can you explain this? MIne and my families rash has been coming and going, does not clinically look like scabies though it is in our underarms and groin areas. Most of our regular dr's are confused but have ended up diagnosing as scabies each time. I could care less about myself, but feel awful for my young children who scratch non stop and use all lotions (including permethrin twice) and allergy meds that are not helping. I just wish someone could help.
Anna

Sandy, TX

#16 Dec 3, 2011
i don't mean to scare anybody, but 5 yeears ago, after taking multiple rounds of iver plus perm, I thought i was just having a reaction to the perm cream and/or I had post scabies induced eczema, until my new boyfriend recently started feeling bites around me too, but mostly in my carpet (in my environment). I don't have visible symptoms besides maybe very small flesh-colored bumps, but I do feel really uncomfortable in my skin sometimes. I was diagnosed with scabies 5 years ago... So, don't believe what eveyrone else says about you having damaged skin, just keep treating your environment and if your home is carpetted, move to one that isn't. Keep your place clean and tidy. Turn up your water heater and throw away your itchy clothes. Don't hestitate to revisit your doctor or find some doctor sympathetic to your case. Because you don't want to be dealing with this 5 years later all over again. Trust me.
Jen

United States

#17 Oct 21, 2012
After a boy had stayed the night i found out he had scabies. my son had a couple of bumps so i called the Dr and she called in some cream. we all. put it on and my son woke up today coverd in tiny red bumps more like a rash...what happend no one else did and Im not even for sure if we had it, i was just being safe about the situation lol
scaredexhausteda ndITCHY

Denver, CO

#18 Nov 26, 2012
My 3 kids and I treated with permethrin 5% a week ago. My son's was the worst and he is now healing nicely. I had very few very itchy bumps mostly on my legs and between my toes. Now I have a very red rash under both of my arms and its speading very fast. It went from an itchy area about the size of a dime to all over my entire armpit and is starting to go up my arm. Is this the effects of permethrin or am I still infected? I'm really scared and I had never heard of scabies until my son brought it home from school 3 months ago. Please if anyone has any advice, help me?
Laura

Choteau, MT

#19 Jul 24, 2013
I can recommend a reputable pharmacy (Permethrin) http://www.7-rx.com/catalog/Skincare/Acticin.... Good price and quality.
success

Australia

#20 Aug 12, 2013
Chill daily bed changing peeps. Having nothing on your skin but clothes n sheets from a drier can give you a terrible rash. Do the normal insructions & wait. If only we all took care of our skin the way we take care of our environment things would be better as that's their the mites live or died. Exhausting yourself is not helping your immune system at all. Just wash & clean with enzymes as they stop melting & eat into mites exo skeleton

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