Ivermectin Paste on Cats (and me) ?

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Since: Oct 08

Newfield, NY

#1 Oct 21, 2008
They were all out of Ivermectin injectablable at the feed store so I ended up buying Ivermectin Paste 1.87%(by Durvet).

Has anyone had success administrating this either orally or topically to their cats? If so, how much did you give them?The cats are one week into their first dose of Revolution and the mites are just moving to the extremities as a result. I was thinking of rubbing the paste on their feet, ears, etc.

As for me, I was also thinking of eating this stuff because the mites (in addition to the rest of my body) have made their way up my nose, in my ears and places not easily reached with topicals. I know it sounds like bird mites or Morgellans but as I caught it from the cats I can only assume it's the same feline mite they have. How much should I consume? Can I also apply it topically?

I washed my hair with a few drops of neem and tea tree oil added to the shampoo this morning and it seems to help the scalp, at least. Can't say the same for my face, though.

Thanks for your advice!
Mite Killer

United States

#2 Oct 21, 2008
Infested wrote:
They were all out of Ivermectin injectablable at the feed store so I ended up buying Ivermectin Paste 1.87%(by Durvet).
Has anyone had success administrating this either orally or topically to their cats? If so, how much did you give them?The cats are one week into their first dose of Revolution and the mites are just moving to the extremities as a result. I was thinking of rubbing the paste on their feet, ears, etc.
As for me, I was also thinking of eating this stuff because the mites (in addition to the rest of my body) have made their way up my nose, in my ears and places not easily reached with topicals. I know it sounds like bird mites or Morgellans but as I caught it from the cats I can only assume it's the same feline mite they have. How much should I consume? Can I also apply it topically?
I washed my hair with a few drops of neem and tea tree oil added to the shampoo this morning and it seems to help the scalp, at least. Can't say the same for my face, though.
Thanks for your advice!
It's sarcoptic mites, they go all over the face and scalp too. I know. I put alchol in a spray bottle to spritz my scalp to stop crawling. added Humco sulfur to my shampoo and conditioner(left on scalp all night). Humco sulfur kills mites and it can be added to your body lotion and kept on for long periods of time to keep the mites off you.

a drop or two of Revolution can be applied to problem areas on your cat.

i did not have good results from using the paste internally.... it may help when used topically? probably limited obsorbsion. I'm not sure. I've used the horse wormer Quest gel (moxidectin) on my hands with success.
Mite Killer

United States

#3 Oct 21, 2008
I've used a Q-tip with alcohol to clean out nose and ears. or pour a little peroxide into the ears and drain. Then apply a scabicide that won't burn or irritate nasal passage or inside ears. Permethrin 5%, sulfer 10%.

I had a terrible hatch and had tracks and burrows all over my body. I used oral Ivermectin and topical Humco sulfur mixed in a body lotion cream, washed with sulfur and used it in my hair products. The mites all died and IT REALLY HELPED ALOT! The sulfur is a mite repellant and it also helps the bumps to heal faster.

Cats can be bathed in sufur shampoo. Welty gives her cat sulfur baths.
buggie

United States

#4 Oct 21, 2008
I've had this for two months and it's turned my life TOTALLY upside down, had to move, quit my job, etc. I was FINALLY treated with oral stromectol/ivermectin last friday night. I've felt human for the first time over the weekend, but I'm feeling buggie again today (tues.). I have a cat and can't afford to take her to the vet but I suspect she has a mite problem. I don't "see" anything moving on her but she has dandruff (not moving). I am crazy to get rid of this. I have not had any itching, but I feel the bugs crawling on me...the doctor said body lice and scabies are the same, but the pharmacist says they are not. I think this is a superbug. I've spent ALL my money on this and the docs didn't help. HELP. I will stay close to the doctor that finally prescribed ivermectin because he has a brain and believed me (no one else does).
Mite Killer

United States

#5 Oct 21, 2008
no it's not a super bug...lice and sarcoptic mites not alike but they die from almost the same treatments. sarcoptic mites need higher doses of the meds.

you've got to treat your cat to prevent passing the mites back and forth. you need Humco sulfur powder(see posts above)

you will have to find the $$$$$$ for some Revolution or Advantage Multi for your cat! or you can give your cat human grade oral ivermectin at a dose for your cat's weight. ask the pharmacy. This is treatable and I wish I'd had all the info I now have back when I was going insane.
Mite Killer

United States

#6 Oct 21, 2008
The Humco sulfur is for human topical use but it can be mixed into a pet's shampoo too.

Since: Oct 08

Newfield, NY

#7 Oct 21, 2008
I concur this is probably a "superbug" from hell. Perhaps the sarcoptic parasite Mite Killer referred to has evolved into something more resistant to the usual fixes, no doubt brought on by the proliferation of permethrin in OTC products. I imagine it's sprayed on our food as well.

I'm still waiting for sulfur powder to arrive from American RX; ordered it on Saturday and it hasn't even shipped yet! In the meantime, I'm slathering my face with coconut and tea tree oil - for all the good it does. I'll have to get myself some alcohol. I read somewhere that it has to be ethyl alcohol but I don't see why it would matter.

Mite killer, did you get the oral Ivermectin from the feed store? Or Magicpharma? We're not having any luck getting it prescribed. This is freakin' nightmare...
Mite Killer

United States

#8 Oct 21, 2008
FYI, injectable animal grade ivomec or dectomax are used to treat mange. some animal owners and vets give the injectable orally to animals.

I never ordered Ivermectin from any overseas pharmacy. I don't trust them. Dectomax and Ivomec are both reliable products.

I think you will find sulfur very effective.
buggie

United States

#9 Oct 21, 2008
why is the public health dept not treating this????
I've given it to MANY people by accident. I can feel bugs crawling in my clothes and I wash in hot and dry in hot for TWO HOURS SOLID every single time I take my clothes off.
Losing hope. Money gone.

Since: Oct 08

Newfield, NY

#10 Oct 21, 2008
"why is the public health dept not treating this?"

I too find this curious omission highly suspect. That, coupled with the fact the medical establishment so readily dismisses less toxic - yet more effective treatments in favor of perm leaves me scratching my head - literally. They seem as eager to push perm on us as their toxic fluoride, mercury and vaccinations. If there's one thing I've gleaned from observing these governmental (and even NGO) agencies is they don't necessarily have the public's best interest at heart. That being the case I've decided to forgo perm in favor of total sulfur immersion. If that doesn't work I'll find some way to acquire oral Ivermectin.

Since: Oct 08

Newfield, NY

#11 Oct 21, 2008
Incidentally, both fluoride and mercury (in vaccinations) are known neurotoxins, as is permethrin. And all of the above are readily disseminated to the public.

I'm starting to see a pattern here....
Welty

AOL

#12 Oct 21, 2008
HiInfested, Due to the length of time that MK and Itty and myself have given shots to their animals, I am not totally sold on any Ivermectins, Doramectins or Revolution being a good solo remedy for this. I certainly see a full week's relief when I dose my cat with Iver, but then they seem like were back every week. So now I am using Lymdyp, a leave in sulfer solution for pets, which is safe for cats and dogs. Maybe my cat is in post. I don't know anything anymore. But Iver stops her itching for a solid week, then it's back like clockwork. However, I used a salve of Dormectin (in her dose) mixed with a tiny bit of Propelyene Glycol, to extend the tiny amount, it's a dose maximum, remember this is a med to make enough to apply to her nails and feet. Note: this additive, Propelene Glycol is the kind from a feed store, NOT the Ethlyene Glycol from an Auto store. This difference is critical. The feed store type is a food additive and a common additive to shampoos and lotions. while the Auto store kind is regular antifreeze, poison. Propelene Glycol is also rarely used as an antifreeze, but it is the "Safety" or animal friendly kind and costs l8 dollars a gallon, the smallest size you can buy at the feed store. I read about this combination in a scabies cure where they mixed this stuff with liquid Injectible Ivermectin at 400ug/kg on some Columbian families on their affected areas and treated them twice and they were cured!!! It does stop the bump you apply to , but then it's kind of like Whack a Mole, and there is a limit to how much Iver or Doramectin a cat can handle after two months, and six months of Revolution, I'm going to sulfer dips, stink or no, I want to cure my cat. Anyway, on this site, I don't know of anybody who is cured with Iver topical, or oral Iver alone. I think that it is a good aid, but not a total cure, after over two months, I don't think they are erased in my cat. I think with Iver or Dora that they keep coming back, but my cat's nails look way better. Before they had tons of weird mite gunk around them, wastes.(She had these for two years before they started to pick on me), Her nails were really bad. Like the Sam of cats. So, I measured the Injectible Doramectin in a syringe and did not go over that amount. I rubbed it around all her nails and that helped a lot. But I think it's going to be sulfer Lymdyp, the cheap remedy that will cure my cat for good. It stinks when wet, but it is safe and it is a time honored cure for over fifty years.
Welty

AOL

#13 Oct 21, 2008
I am going to keep up the Iver on a limited basis, every l4 days for my cat and use weekly Lymdyps on my cat until her pillowcase bed is clear in the morning without those funny little brown dots and I don't have a new bump for three weeks. I do think that the topical homemade salve will get a specific place or bump, on humans or animals, actually, on myself I spot treat with tiny amounts of straight Dormectin, because I can see my bumps and only need to use a tiny amount, but with my cat, her far tinier amount needs to cover her entire feet and ankles, so I add the Propelene which helps it spread and absorb and is safe for her to lick. (I do not exceed her daily amount of the Doramectin for the topical application, which is 0.1cc or a tenth of one cc, in her salve, which I make up and apply each time. I've done it twice. And I always use a clean container so bacteria won't grow in this, and really screw her up. It helped her crusty feet and nails, but I think this is a systemic disease and with Itty and Janet and MK using these meds on their pets for such a long time, I am not going to depend on Iver, topical, or otherwise by itself anymore, alone. P.S. Horse paste is the one Iver that is NOT labeled to kill mites. Many posters feel it's a waste of money. It's easier to draw up a small dose of Injectible Iver with a needled syringe, Buy a few, and give this tiny amount of a cc in the small size lml/lcc size oral syringe. This does seem to stop all mite activity on a pet, it just doesn't seem to stop it longer than a week, but it is a vast improvement. I think it buys you a week to give your pet a weekly sulfer dip. Get sulfer for yourself too for a sure cheap cure.

Since: Oct 08

Newfield, NY

#14 Oct 21, 2008
Hi Welty,

Thank you for sharing this priceless information! Waiting months on end for Revolution to do nothing more than apply a temporary bandaid for my cats and false peace of mind for me is no solution. No wonder the vets prescribe it! Patients who are never really cured supply a steady source of income - not unlike their human counterparts. This horrific experience with scabies has only reinforced my innate distrust of the whitecoats (I think they used to refer to it as "survival instinct.")

I remember my experience at his office. He was absolutely mortified when I suggested a sulfur dip for my precious felines. He didn't know the difference between a burrowing or surface mite, couldn't spell "notoedric," and feigned superior indignance when I dared question his prognosis, or lack thereof. Useless. The folks on this board have been of far more help than this shill in a labcoat masquerading as a healer of animals.

I am purchasing Lymdyp as soon as possible. Is this yet another item that has to be special ordered? No luck at Petco. One has to wonder why the real cures are so hard to come by...

Since: Oct 08

Newfield, NY

#15 Oct 21, 2008
"Horse paste is the one Iver that is NOT labeled to kill mites."

Again, thank you. You have just saved me from exposing myself and kitties to needless toxin exposure. If I'm going to injest poison, it damn-well better well work. I ordered some sulfur from AmericanRX and am not-so-patiently waiting for it's arrival. Tick-tock, tick-tock....
Mite Killer

United States

#16 Oct 22, 2008
Vets RX Revolution for treating mange sometimes because they read that it treats and controls mange. They don't tell people to use it on their pets to keep the pets infested and make $$$ off the pet owners. Some veterinarian's and MD's are more informed than others, but they are just people, not greedy monsters who intenionally keep a pet or person infested.

People have been cured with Ivermectin or an avermectin alone, on and off this forum. The trick is to use it long enough to get the mites numbers down to zero. I think using a topical with Ivermecin is the best choice because it's more efficient and kills the underdeveloped mite.

My case is reinfestation, not treatment failure, although I think sarcoptic mites may have some tolerance to permethrin. I've killed more mites than I'd like to think. I don't think it's fair to say that avermectins won't cure scabies or mange, it will. It's always a matter of killing mites until there are none and then not getting reinfested from another host, sourch or fomite.
Welty

AOL

#17 Oct 22, 2008
Don't forget to look at your local drugstore for your own sulfer if you are immpatient. I found some at a smaller chain drugstore, Humco sublimed, for four dollars. Right directly above the giant generic vasoline for 2.98. And it's a cure. I don't like vasoline, but I do think that sulfer is the one cure you hear about on this site, so I trust sulfer, but I am too self concious to wash my clothes in my apartment complex laundery room. When your clothes get hot in the dryer they will smell a little like something is burning. It's like matches. I kind of like it, but I have to be a little more discreet. I use bleach to wipe down the washer/dryer when I'm done to make sure nobody is getting this, but bleach is a normal laundery smell.
Sorry to hear about your vet, but our own Docs seem clueless about this in general. Or so I've found. This is such an environmental problem, and when pets harbor them and people, it's a big problem that is barely addressed in med school.
So, anyway, see if your Vet will at least order you the Lymdyp at cost, about 8 dollars for 8 ozs, which will make a gallon. Read my other post about tips on giving a Lymdyp. I don't mind the smell of it when my cat is dry. It takes six dips to cure an animal of mange. You leave the residual in their coat, you don't rinse them. It keeps all the mites off your cat so you can let them run around. You can get various types or brands of Lymdyp. Don't get cedar stuff, doesn't work, get Lymdyp. Don't get white sulfer, doesn't work, get Lymdyp. Sorry, it's stinky Lymdyp for true results, any brand. And it's well worth it for your sanity. Your human sulfer will smell better, but don't use that on a cat either. It won't stick to their fur like Lymdyp, and you also don't want to put vasoline on a cat, it would just ruin their lives, and they would definitely lick that, and it would get them sick and the powder can separate and burn them if you mixed it with water, it doesn't mix like Lymdyp with H2o. I have spent almost a year figuring stuff out and wasted the most time on Revolution. If I'd only gotten Lymdyp earlier on for my cat, I think I'd be cured. Sigh. I always wanted there to be a better smelling thing that wouldn't involve getting my cat wet. I feel like if there's one thing I hate it's hard boiled eggs. But luckily that stage with Lymdyp only lasts a few minutes, and now I am coming to associate the smell withf feline cure. I might also go back to a shot of Program for my cat. It's the insect growth regulator that is quite safe. It lasts six months. I'm not saying it is effective for these, it's works on fleas, but if it slowed these down at all, that would be great. I have used that in the past for flea control. No more Revolution for my cat ever. It gave her ataxia and made her woozy and I was just so desperate I gave it to my cat twice a month for four months, six months all together. It did not work, only the first month.
Welty

AOL

#18 Oct 22, 2008
MK, Did your sister cure her pets with Dormectin shots alone? But it took six months? I don't know if I want to treat my cat with these meds for so long as Revolution was so hard on her, and want to hasten her results even if it means putting up with a brief stench while dipping her. I actually like the smell of a dry treated Lymdyp cat. I just have to do something that acts quicker and leaves less chance of infestation and so, I am using Lymdyp on her and it's working. Topical Dora with Propelene really helped her feet a bunch and she did have crusted nails from a longstanding case, but like clockwork, she is itchy after a week every time after a shot or a dose of Iver. It's always exactly the same time frame. It's getting old. Her feet are a lot better though, I will admit, but I can't wait for a six month treatment when I know of a six week treatment that also protects a cat from mites hopping back on her. I need her to be cured faster, as I can use any munber of topical meds on myself to help me get the most out of the Iver, and I need her to catch up. I've been holding at a bump or two a week forever and always after she's been on my bed or on my lap and after she starts scratching. I think I'd be cured if it weren't for my cat's feet/nails. She needs all the help she can get. How are you doing? How are cats and dog? Good to hear from you and hope you are doing better this week. Try the stinky Lymdyp - it works alone, and it would max the Iver/Dora, too, for faster results.
Mite Killer

United States

#19 Oct 22, 2008
She used Happy Jack on the dog in the beginning, it helped but still mangy.

When I told her about Dectomax she gave her cats and dog injections. She used a little BB on the dogs mangy legs. She gave the dog lots of baths.
Welty

AOL

#20 Oct 22, 2008
MK, I have treated my cat with Iver or Dora since July. I guess that's well within the timeframe that it took your sister, who at least had the benefit of all the trial and error of your vet, but it still seems too long for me. I need to speed this up, as I lost so much time, when I thought this was bird mites. I want this over before coat season really sets in.

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