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Iris

Toronto, Canada

#21 Apr 4, 2013
My hubby had taken the Epsom salt bath 2 days ago, maybe that was why there was an improvement. Last nite, before his Epsom salt bath I had concerns with the redness increasing in width, and colour not quite burgandy & it was improved this morning. The area seemed raised up but more towards the black cap. I took a pic of it and sent it off to Ontario Poison Control to ask about a possibility of an ID this morning. I applied Penaten on it this morning & I had plastic gloves on this time as 1 scratched seemed to have deepened in colour & massaging his skin may bring it back to mine...rite? Yesterday, I applied 3 vials each possible about 1/2 a teaspoon with olive oil, each having 45% permethrine & 2.9% methropene. 1/2 later after 1 hr massage, I had a bite between my shoulder blade and arm pit. Maybe I missed it and maybe not. Thing is with dogs you don't rub it everywhere just on the base of tail and the back of the neck so it must go into the blood stream? I removed a small non blackish cap on myself & there was this slight pinkish blood but maybe it was just my imagination. Does pinkish blood spread rapidly in the blood stream once the caps start to appear cause I only had 1 black cap. April 01, we ate at a fish joint because of the pesticide spray which lasts 4 hrs. My hub made 3 mistakes in driving in less than 10 mins. April 2, I was coming up to a red lite...next thing I knew the light was green & I was still waiting for? Did I loose consciousness in a second of time. It's like I woke up and the light was green. I had a cluster migrane the afternoon before which is an allergy migrane usually I get them from gingerale & I avoid gingerale like the plague because the vision becomes distorted and you feel partially blind. This migrane goes away after 2 - 4 hrs. Last nite, my breathing felt heavy but we do have a lot of sea shell flour on the floor to ward off suspected bedbugs (yet to find one) and the flour has been on the floor for 4 months plus we did a natural pesticide spray for bedbugs at that time in December. I'm so tired and the sweats is probably because of the heat & a lot of work...not quite a fever. Sent an email to the Liberal party of Canada with a message not to expect me to attend any speaches. Today, I am increasing the vials to 4 with either water or grapeseed oil as it is thinner & wait 14 hrs before a Epsom bath. Now is a good time to see a physcian problem is my bites are healing quite well and the mites are under the skin. Did a rub this morning which produced only 4 mites after my legs from ankle to up 12 inches had this complete sock like itchiness around 8:00. Usually they are intensely active between 10:30 - 11:30 and it is quiet. But, 8:00 indicated that they were there. Tonite, I prepare the pioneer "death to who may partake" potion which I can not pass on to you or is that "death wish potion" which may need to set for a day or two and applied discreetly.
Iris

Toronto, Canada

#22 Apr 4, 2013
P.S.
My hubby is not taking chemicals only oils and natural meds for the scabies. Yet, he made 3 mistakes driving. I didn't make a mistake. I just lost a second, it seemed, in time when parked at a red lite. My concern is that TOO MUCH oil may permeate into the brain and coat the snapsis and hinder electrical impulses. My hubby will say that the increased in redness on that one black scab of his is due to his inbility to get NEM from India into Canada as it has been banned from Canada. It seems that Canada has never tested NEM although most other countries including USA has done so. It means someone has to be paid to do their own studies & may need to bounce off seniors from receiving old age benefits till they are 67 or 70. He may be rite about the NEM. So, if you still have NEM seeds please start your own tree farm here in Canada. Or, are we going to be arrested for buying NEM under the same guidelines as marihuanna? We can still buy up the old supplies rite?
Iris

Toronto, Canada

#23 Apr 5, 2013
April 4 - applied dog permethrin at 8 massaged to 9, biten once 1/2 hr later, no activity at 10:30 - 11, occassional itch applied permethrin to the itches not with oil but sugarless Coke and applied from knee down to ankles due to sock like itchy feeling at 3, immediate activity around left ankle in 2" circumferance wiped away about 30 mites, massaged whole body with about a 12 mites, did dishes, cooked supper, applied permethrin a third time with water only from 8 to 12:30 and produced several mites. 800 a day down to less than a 100...is this a trick? Slept well woke up naturally at 7 itching here and there started at 7:30 but much reduced since a month ago where the itching and biting wants you to jump in front of a train. My husband has only one black cap, a dozen hoovering pocs around the black cap. It looks a little more raised, still a dark tone red colour to the flesh, probably would produce pink blood if only he would let me remove it. Used plastic gloves applied the permethrin to the unblack pocs and left the black poc to last to avoid contaminating the others, removed the glove, used a new glove and applied the permaten.
Iris

Toronto, Canada

#24 Apr 6, 2013
April 6, yesterday nothing happened at 10:30 - 11, nor at 3, activity at 9, nothing at first, half an hour later, about 300 possibly more. It was disappointing but maybe they were already dead. I had applied 4 vials of permethrin/Methoprene at 10:30 in anticipation of activity with water solution to stretch it out. It would take 6 - 8 vials to do the whole body without water, rite? I was disoriented all day, slow thinking, not to an extreme mind you, forgetful going from one room to the other, pushing game program, microsoft program before hitting the Interenet Explorer button which is what I really wanted. Lethargic. Did only the dishes and nothing else all day. But, maybe the mites are going through the same thing. It is like at nite they were fighting back. Good news! I don't have roundworms. Perhaps this reaction is the build up of previous chemicals applied stopped four days ago and/or the round worm dog pills? I slept like a baby no bites, slight itching on the thighs at 8. My hubby's black cap scab is healing and the red, both beefy and slight burgandy, is virtually gone, the red presented is normal red with a scratch and it too is going down. The black cap is going down, the elevated skin around the cap is going down. I strongly suggest Epsom salt bath, Penetan and Permethrin in the treatment of black caps treated individually from the other scabs, with plastic gloves and changed between applications of meds. I washed my hands after lifting up his sheets this morning. Secondary infection is highly contagious...rite? He does not seem to have as many mites. He doesn't massage, doesn't do chemicals reluctantly did not accept my applying Pentagen and the Permethrin but I had already applied them before he could object. Is NEEM better than chemical? It has to be both by my way of thinking. We are in separate plastic beds raised off of the floor. I'm waiting to see what happens with him. He is, after all, out of NEEM and he sleeps with the cat. "Here Kitty, Kitty".
Iris

Toronto, Canada

#25 Apr 6, 2013
I would suggest to those who do not have money for gloves to buy Glad Cling Wrap and wrap a small piece around your finger before appling meds to a black cap scab after each scab. The reason being is that pink blood is in many forms from septimia to rabies, and of course, anthrax which is assoicated with black scabs. Pink blood is usually an indication of many bacterium and can be present in vaginal polpys which has nothing to do with this study. Pink blood can be less contagious and harmful and other pink blood, as in Anthrax and septimea, strep, are definitely more harmful. You may want to wrap the posts of beds and furniture, where you sit and sleep, with ant trap ribbon, you know the type of sticky ribbon that is hung down in barns to catch flies. I am not sure how what I have travels. I have never seen them move. Bed bugs and other insects may complicate scabby situations and the sticky ribbons would eliminate this worry. My hubby is not concerned at all...he is in lala land helping a perky breasted young thing to move from one city to another, taking a computer to his son, going for extended coffee breaks with his male friends and I tell him that he is taking a chance as "they can't afford a $1000 worth of medications" nor furniture replacement. Neither can we. And, he is a researcher...at least 4 hours of his time a day is researching natural medicines to send to Cutler Clinic (for free) for the last 13 years. He doesn't need to research pharmaceutical...he already knows everything there is to know. Don't play scrabble with him...he can actually spell those ingredients listed on products. What does this have to do with this study? There are reasons why diseases spread...and it is "over confidence" and "stupidity."
Iris

Toronto, Canada

#26 Apr 6, 2013
The reason my concern was on the pink blood is that it is true that rabies could produce pink blood and I have a concern that there is only a very slight possibility that I may have a form of uncontagious rabies in my blood stream. There was a scare in Montreal 1967 and we, acquaintences were asked to go to a hospital or a clinic. We lined up but I kept backing away as I saw no need for a rabie shot. The girl in my place died from the rabie shot or so I heard. The second reason, is that I had my brother Robert Rae Wigle arrested by the North Bay police after a physical assault without cause, I just walked into his garage and asked if he had a screw...one screw. I needed to get a blood sample and he had a form of rabies known only to the Irish. It is passed on in birth and carried to the next generation which causes irritable and volitable behaviour in the Irish or so it is said. We may all carry a bad bacterium that our bodies keep in check but if there is a new disease that wears the immunity down then there may be a rise in the other...rite? So, don't be overly concern if a black cap shows up. Treat the first one and the other scabs may not become infected and go to a physician with the first cap for a biopsy. My husband forbids me to go...it makes me almost an unbeliever...an apostate. I also was told "you probably have scleroderma" (type of progressive sclerosis of the all the skins) which means that my ana's are ceiling high, mid high it is Lupus, knee high it is rheumatoid arthritis and high levels of tryglercerides meaning so much of the wrong fat that closterals can not be read. All these things have to be added into a study...total history.
Iris

Toronto, Canada

#27 Apr 6, 2013
With regard to secondary infections in scabbies, the lack of endorphins may cause pink blood as the endorphins loose the battle in a scabie area. I participated in a research program between 1967 - 1969 just briefly, like a day, a weekend here and there maybe several times during the nun thing. There was a new lethal disease on the market not as yet named HIV. A contaminated piece of human flesh was placed in a box and an uncontaminated piece was place on the other side with a tight sealed animal skin in between and the uncontaminated side became contaminated within several hours producing a green slime that had dead endorphins. HIV people may have scabs with black caps possibly. The earliest HIV possibilities were negative dna and not positive that were being reported since 1957 which was several adults and one child less than the age of 3. HIV patients with scabbies need to take extra care and treat each scab individually. My theses at the time was that the HIV had come from an innoculation wherein positive human blood with the D gene had been used as a basis for vaccination whereas negative blood should have been used separately but the blood bank collected all bloods at one time in the same vat right? And, I could be wrong. Women with a blood flow or spot from the vagina should wash their hands thoroughly before doing massages and rubbing salves onto scabs as they may not be aware that they have a pink flow from polyps mixed in with the menstral flow...right?
Iris

Toronto, Canada

#28 Apr 6, 2013
I should correct something I said about HIV scabs and mite scabbies. The thesis that I presented as a female stupid nun type person in 1967 is that negative people do not have the d gene in their bodies. Many aboriginals like South American who are said to have been cut off from the main stream left Europe 3000 years ago. Then how did the rest of the peoples receive a d gene? That is, if negative is the purest representing first nations before the flood? Is it possible that the d gene is an invasive gene that is not human? But those with the d gene eventually passed on the d gene that would not kill their offspring. The d gene in a negative will try to kill the baby & the negative baby is born ill and needs light treatments to kill the invasive d gene. Then, scientists tried to get the d gene in the negative to marry into the negative with a shot given to pregnant women, thus, it may have created a new dna line which is AB or whatever. The d gene may have carried an infection or bacteria into the RH families and when introduced into the negative, we had people dying as the endorphins lost the battle...right? It underscores the importance of HIV people suffering from the scabbie mite to take extra precautions. But, would the light therapy help them with their other scabs or a rhogam shot help to balance things a little...I don't know. How to stop the endorphins from being killed off? It is a mystery. I was present with the second making of Rhogam as an observer. The first shot I was not involved in but I understood why the baby died which had not been reported to the police...and maybe there was truly other reasons. Bacteria can sometimes only be seen after death and the first shot may have been contaminated as gloves were not used nor plastic tops and pants.
Iris

Toronto, Canada

#29 Apr 6, 2013
I know...the "HIV originated in Africa" theory? Well, it is NOT MY theory. At the most if Africans had been involved with importing the D gene it would have been like in Noah's day and how can we prove it? The Israelites & Egyptians both have accounts of angels coming down from Heaven & marrying the "daughters of men" but the Egyptians included in their lore, animals and those half human & cat or dog, bull, made up their God sytem...rite? The problem that I have with the African theory is that they have POSITIVE RH blood and it is possible that rabies producing HIV looking scabs may have been misdiagnosed...rite? The FIRST AMERICAN HIV patients were all negative during the fifties and seventies...and I have yet to have proof that there are HIV RH positive patient unless it is a bacteria that is now infecting both...but I am an unbeliever. Get Penaten (zinc) and Perethrin for those scabbie scabs...toute des suite and don't give blood donations anymore.
Iris

Toronto, Canada

#30 Apr 6, 2013
If negative is the first blood then surely Jesus had negative blood. ""Although hew was a Son (of God) he learned obedience from the things he suffered and after he had been made perfect he became responsible for everlasting salvation to all those obeying him ( Hebrews 5: 8). Did Jesus touch things without thinking like poison ivy, scabbie infected gifts? It is said somewhere that his appearance was ?repulsive? I thought it meant ugly...a perfect ugly man is still perfect. Did he get HIV and conquer? Did he, according to Catholic lore, "nail our sins (and diseases) upon the cross"? It is said in Catholic lore and other religions that Jesus is forbidden to interfere until the "trampling of the Jews" has been completed which is 2,352? years from 607 BC till our present situation. Jesus can only deal with those that humans describe as "saints" as they are described as his "bride". All his apostles showing up in the resurrection with arms, legs and heads missing is not reassuring. Thus, we all wait. But, did Jesus conquer all diseases. We shall wait and see.
Iris

Toronto, Canada

#31 Apr 6, 2013
Herpes Simplex would be a bad combination with scabies. The cream for scabies is not going to work on the herpes. Pure Vanilla (Club House) will stop herpes while in the contagious stage but it takes 6 - 12 hours of moment by moment application to bring the fever down. Pure vanilla will stop the herpes from spreading and one will only have the first herpes scab. When pure vanilla is applied moment by moment the scab itself will flatten rather than bubble. You still have a scab but it is not bubbly and usually it will flake off on its own or when it is pulled off after acouple of days. Is it a black scab or a brown scab? Can't remember. The pure vanilla probably won't be that effective against scabbie mites but it is not going to make it worse. I thought of experimenting with pure vanilla beans/leaves and root to see if a vanilla tar could be made which could be applied as a paste but I am not sure if it would work. It seems that the liquid is important with the fever and Clubhouse Vanilla may contain a little bit of alcohol but I am not sure. Alcohol will not work on herpes nor does imitation vanilla. Clubhouse has a formula that works but it is tiring applying the vanilla moment by moment for four to several hours. And, it works best when one feels that itch that represents a bubble is coming. To put the application off for two hours will mean that the itch will develop into a bubble. You can't stop that bubble but you maybe able to stop more bubbles and end up with just 1 -4 instead of dozens'
Iris

Toronto, Canada

#32 Apr 8, 2013
April 7 was a horrendous nite. I didn't do the massages that day as I had anticipated that the round worm medicine and the Permethrine would have kicked in...I mean we are talking 18 vials of 45% permethrin and 2.9% methoprene that followed on the heels of 12 vials of 30% permethrine not including the natural path oil massages of 3 - 5 hours. I had bites at 3:00 like you would not believe...everywhere maybe 50 maybe more and I couldn't do a thing about it cause we were driving and arrived home around 7. I took a shower, massaged from 8 to 12 o'clock with only the Raid pesticide which seems to bring the up the fastest but Eucalptus is probably much safer and slow acting but I have brought up 12 with Eucalptus rite after a bite and I noted that the mites seem to colonoize or maybe just the females or the eggs hatching? The massages seem to help remove crystals which may or may not be eggs. Maybe a 1000 mite count mostly pin heads. I was surprised at 30 larger ones? The pores in scleroderma seal up with calcium thus we are to avoid milk and I am drinking tons of milk & liquid. Maybe the pesticides are affecting the pancreas? My hub feels I should ignore them. Hartz cat spray for fleas has clove and clove burns but when he uses it...he uses a 1000 x's more & I can't take the burn it's like 3rd degree. Ignore the bites, the eggs, the larvae, the cocoons, the mites? I can't live with worms. I don't want to be kissed or hugged. I would like to put on the front of every Playboy magazine, "Does those perky breasts have worms hidden underneath the skin?" I'm going for the worm treatment. I know it doesn't seem like the last one work. We had to say goodbye to our cat Milo. He was 13 & had continuous problems keeping his food down. We tried different soft foods but when a cat starts to vomit up what smells like poo well it is to go with a $500 -$1000 operation to see if he had cancer or just put it to sleep. We did spend this money with another cat and it died two weeks after the operation. I will miss him taping me on the shoulder to get a drink of water from the tap. What else can I say? After my massage last nite, I splashed with alcohol to break down the skelton system of the mites, and quckly massaged in the Hartz Flea spray (with the clove) and slept very well through the nite awakening at 7:30, itching at 8, showered quickly, splashed alochol quickly massaging with the Hartz Flea spray. It occured to me last nite that my skin really did look much better, softer and to the angel, "you probably don't even feel sorry for me." In retrospeck he may have replied if he had been present, "How can I possibly feel sorry for you? Your skin really does indeed look much better." His imaginary face reminded me of Kevin, an acquaintance with a very serious skin problem who could not do the 72 hour oil bath thing for more than 5 hours. It was only a suggestion Kevin!
Iris

Toronto, Canada

#33 Apr 9, 2013
Yesterday, was like starting all over again...every 10 - 15 was a bite. Nothing seemed to be working. "Well, if you had been drinking earth (sea shell flour) you would not be so bad."
Sea shell flour doesn't sound like God made it for people to drink. "It will take care of those pin worms your talking about." I was on a quest for pin worms in the LIQUID form to add to my massage, not necessariy a lot, but I am working on the worms that become fleas or whatever and get them before they mate. How often is that? More than rabbits and dogs? He started me on homepathy "sulfur 30", "it's sulfar you know."
Psorinum for the treatment of psorises? I upped the oil of lavender to 3 drops as it burns like clove and is said to kill insects & ova. "Let me see your leg (12:30 am). He did not put on the Penaten nor the Penethrin. The black cap was beefy red with a tone of burgandy and swelling again. And, he missed the Epsom salt bath as we were out. Not one pharmacy had liquid pin worm medicine (which is over the counter or behind the pharmacy counter). He found a bottle of Euculpytus while searching for NEEM.
not so new2this

New York, NY

#34 Apr 9, 2013
if not mites what are they?

Sometimes they seem to bite and then you can find them emerging. So I think they (or most) are mites, of course some are by-products. Cant afford labs. But curious what you mean
Freewheelin Franklin wrote:
Next time you get these black specs that you think are "mites" gather them up and send them to a university entomology lab for analysis. Chances are they will come back negative for mites.
Keep something in mind, that is that certain treatments are synergistic. When using things like Ellagic acid from raspberries, Cloves for euganol and grapefruit seed extract in combination with Far Infrared to restore cellular function then as the natural components attack biofilms and bacterial cysts etc. then the Far infrared is allowed to penetrate deeper and as it penetrates deeper more cellular function is restored allowing the natural components to go deeper until every cell in your body is reached and the actual culprits of your infection are attacked.
not so new2this

New York, NY

#35 Apr 9, 2013
So sorry, can relate. Clean extra attentively around you at this time. Maybe they are being driven out, often it gets worse before it gets better. I hope you are diluting your permethrin to proper levels. I also strongly recommend ivermectin-- in my view it's necessary and not as bad as repeated doses of the P chemicals. Afterwards you can flush out your liver.....
Iris wrote:
April 7 was a horrendous nite. I didn't do the massages that day as I had anticipated that the round worm medicine and the Permethrine would have kicked in...I mean we are talking 18 vials of 45% permethrin and 2.9% methoprene that followed on the heels of 12 vials of 30% permethrine not including the natural path oil massages of 3 - 5 hours. I had bites at 3:00 like you would not believe...everywhere maybe 50 maybe more and I couldn't do a thing about it cause we were driving and arrived home around 7. I took a shower, massaged from 8 to 12 o'clock with only the Raid pesticide which seems to bring the up the fastest but Eucalptus is probably much safer and slow acting but I have brought up 12 with Eucalptus rite after a bite and I noted that the mites seem to colonoize or maybe just the females or the eggs hatching? The massages seem to help remove crystals which may or may not be eggs. Maybe a 1000 mite count mostly pin heads. I was surprised at 30 larger ones? The pores in scleroderma seal up with calcium thus we are to avoid milk and I am drinking tons of milk & liquid. Maybe the pesticides are affecting the pancreas? My hub feels I should ignore them. Hartz cat spray for fleas has clove and clove burns but when he uses it...he uses a 1000 x's more & I can't take the burn it's like 3rd degree. Ignore the bites, the eggs, the larvae, the cocoons, the mites? I can't live with worms. I don't want to be kissed or hugged. I would like to put on the front of every Playboy magazine, "Does those perky breasts have worms hidden underneath the skin?" I'm going for the worm treatment. I know it doesn't seem like the last one work. We had to say goodbye to our cat Milo. He was 13 & had continuous problems keeping his food down. We tried different soft foods but when a cat starts to vomit up what smells like poo well it is to go with a $500 -$1000 operation to see if he had cancer or just put it to sleep. We did spend this money with another cat and it died two weeks after the operation. I will miss him taping me on the shoulder to get a drink of water from the tap. What else can I say? After my massage last nite, I splashed with alcohol to break down the skelton system of the mites, and quckly massaged in the Hartz Flea spray (with the clove) and slept very well through the nite awakening at 7:30, itching at 8, showered quickly, splashed alochol quickly massaging with the Hartz Flea spray. It occured to me last nite that my skin really did look much better, softer and to the angel, "you probably don't even feel sorry for me." In retrospeck he may have replied if he had been present, "How can I possibly feel sorry for you? Your skin really does indeed look much better." His imaginary face reminded me of Kevin, an acquaintance with a very serious skin problem who could not do the 72 hour oil bath thing for more than 5 hours. It was only a suggestion Kevin!
Iris

Toronto, Canada

#36 Apr 10, 2013
Psoridium, from the Health Store, is one application and takes 9 days to work and, he added, "no zinc". His black scab was healing quite nicely as were the other pimps around it without the scabs. "Those are scratches from the cat and that one is from a hockey game last year." It is still red but healthy red with red scars. He felt "foggy" today and does not do chemical nor have I given him round worm medicine. Crunched up some Combatrin pin worm pills and applied it last nite with Euculyptus. The mites came up readily, didn't count possibly 300 but I had washed my floors furniture with water and kerosene (this is a nonsmoking house). One must be careful what one says because it can get one into trouble. Once I told an acquaintance with a cold, "you should sit on your hands for a day or two." I didn't mean literally, I just meant don't touch anything and rest.
umathr

New Market, MD

#37 Apr 11, 2013
Iris wrote:
Psoridium, from the Health Store, is one application and takes 9 days to work and, he added, "no zinc". His black scab was healing quite nicely as were the other pimps around it without the scabs. "Those are scratches from the cat and that one is from a hockey game last year." It is still red but healthy red with red scars. He felt "foggy" today and does not do chemical nor have I given him round worm medicine. Crunched up some Combatrin pin worm pills and applied it last nite with Euculyptus. The mites came up readily, didn't count possibly 300 but I had washed my floors furniture with water and kerosene (this is a nonsmoking house). One must be careful what one says because it can get one into trouble. Once I told an acquaintance with a cold, "you should sit on your hands for a day or two." I didn't mean literally, I just meant don't touch anything and rest.
Right off the bat I would say you were nuts. Try sulfur soap and aloe vera gel it works for me. Put the sulfur soap on using a soft bristle bath brush work the soap into the skin let dry. After you have done that for a day or two put the aloe gel on your skin let dry. As far as cleaning goes clean with baking soda and use a baking soda spray. Is not oleander a deadly poison to humans I think it is. good luck
Iris

Toronto, Canada

#38 Apr 12, 2013
April 12, put bobby socks on & immediately my feet were being beaten. Now, it maybe that this was the one that I had picked off the floor and placed into a plastic bag. The weave in it was large enough for a small mite to pass into or a larvae which usually travels to make a cacoon...rite? Next pay, I will buy polyster close knit & replace the knitted tops. I may have gleaned 100 yesterday and concluded that I must apply, whatever, every three hours max. I know when it is almost 11 o'clock just from the first bite. I really don't want to add this but in a study everything MUST be added. I dropped one black mite, not the leafcutter, but a rounder coffee type off of a kleenex as I have never seen movement. It was like it parachuted. I picked it up again and dropped it and it was like a hoovering, parachute movement. Back to Montreal 1967, physical and almost sexual rape, police arrested 2 men out of 40 would be rapists, the call was not from me, but pre trial of Carol Wager and Carol Maywellbelove, names assigned by the suspects to me, their wives had taken over my apt and they put cuts on my body and placed spiders inside, worms and behind one eye ants which, I believe, a Montreal eye doc had to remove one by one. It is not possible for me to still have these things inside me...rite? Qwen Kinoshita, friend of the assaulters hid the knife up in a light fixture in the bedroom on Jean Talon just after one assaulter tried to push a live bird into my navel button but it was too large and he would have to cut, "ever so gently" a larger hole. It was all documented but JW lawyers got them all off. And, I thought about Dennis going to the JW convention, "And, right back to you!" It soothes me that Jesus may have run into this same type of tribe and he may have had to starve himself for 30 days to remove whatever, probably a tape worm with one part attached to an opened wound of an animal and hopefully it would work...pure conjecture on my part. There is hope in the belief of a Messiah who will not "lie" in future court cases. Still looking for oleander and liquid Combantrin. Repeat, "I will not get depressed...I have been through worse than this!"
FRED

Golden, CO

#39 Apr 12, 2013
not so new2this wrote:
if not mites what are they?
Sometimes they seem to bite and then you can find them emerging. So I think they (or most) are mites, of course some are by-products. Cant afford labs. But curious what you mean
<quoted text>
Bacterial infections cause the same symptoms as mite infections, you can google this and find a lot to support it. So to say that you feel biting does not mean at all that you have mites.

Instead of taking 3 oleander leaves and putting them in coconut oil some very excellent olive leaf extract is available in a tincture from herb pharm.

I was on the scabies forum for a long time and it took a lot of treatments with a lot of toxic stuff to figure out that I didn't have mites at all. This happened to a few other people her too. Right now I'm using 4 different antimicrobials and taking a few supplements to support detox. I'm using Samento, Banderol, olive leaf extract and teasel. I'm also taking Lecithin and Taurine to support detox and liver function.

Finally getting on the above regimen I was able to get rid of all my skin symptoms, It's a whole body problem not just a skin issue. Some of the bacteria can avoid your immune system so well that these types of infections don't fit the standard mold at all and they take a long time to treat because they go dormant. I've read treat 1-3 years but I'm o.k. with that because I feel perfectly normal and am not bothered at all by what i thought was a "mite infection".

here is a pdf associating all kinds of dermatological skin symptoms with systemic bacterial/ viral/ fungal infections etc..

http://www.hksid.org/pdf/Skin_Manifestations_...
VSS

Hollywood, FL

#40 Apr 12, 2013
FRED wrote:
<quoted text>
Bacterial infections cause the same symptoms as mite infections, you can google this and find a lot to support it. So to say that you feel biting does not mean at all that you have mites.
Instead of taking 3 oleander leaves and putting them in coconut oil some very excellent olive leaf extract is available in a tincture from herb pharm.
I was on the scabies forum for a long time and it took a lot of treatments with a lot of toxic stuff to figure out that I didn't have mites at all. This happened to a few other people her too. Right now I'm using 4 different antimicrobials and taking a few supplements to support detox. I'm using Samento, Banderol, olive leaf extract and teasel. I'm also taking Lecithin and Taurine to support detox and liver function.
Finally getting on the above regimen I was able to get rid of all my skin symptoms, It's a whole body problem not just a skin issue. Some of the bacteria can avoid your immune system so well that these types of infections don't fit the standard mold at all and they take a long time to treat because they go dormant. I've read treat 1-3 years but I'm o.k. with that because I feel perfectly normal and am not bothered at all by what i thought was a "mite infection".
here is a pdf associating all kinds of dermatological skin symptoms with systemic bacterial/ viral/ fungal infections etc..
http://www.hksid.org/pdf/Skin_Manifestations_...
I only judged you this way because Iris seems like she may have been locked up in a luny bin for quite some time. Your information was refreshing. Don't let this get to your HEAD.

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