30 days in a row of Ivermectin as a cure
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Central District, Hong Kong
#1 Sep 26, 2010
Dear Progress or Report of a Cure,
Please respond or anyone else. Has anyone else hear of 30 days in a row which Report of a Cure, cured herself with and was prescribed by her doctor.
What are alternatives?? I notice that 2 days in a row works much better for me than 1 day of Iver. The bugs take longer to start biting again. I am willing to try something like 14 days or even 30 days if I am totally desperate but I want to see what others have heard from MD's or have tried themselves first.
From Report of a Cure, June 14, 2010:
My breakthrough came after talking to a local doctor who had seen previous failures of
conventional treatment. He suggested taking oral ivermectin every day for 30 days.
Long ago I had tried the,“Days 1,2,8,9,15,22,29” ivermectin schedule suggested by
Progress at the beginning of this forum, but without a cure. This local doctor said that
he had seen his “every day for 30 days” plan work on other tough cases; I was
desperate so I decided to give it a try.
#2 Sep 26, 2010
Hello. I did a course on the advice of my doctor, combining oral ivermectin with topical ivermectin. The trick is that you need both oral and topical to be effective, and these two should be taken at the same time for each does. My doctor prescribed six doses over four weeks, but I had read that it was possible to take heavier doses without side effects. So I took heavier doses than prescribed (double the suggested amount for my body weight) and took a total of something like 16 doses over 6 weeks. In the first couple of weeks, the doses were three or five days apart, but then I put more space between them towards the end of the six week period. I no longer have any lesions, so it's impossible that I have scabies. However, I still have the biting sensations and sometimes crawling sensations too. Since taking ivermectin, I have made some changes in my life, such as reducing my alcohol intake, stopped smoking, and started meditation. Actually, I now believe that I never had scabies in the first place. My diagnosis was wrong! I had parasthesia, as one skin doctor told me just around the time I was taking the ivermectin. The doctor told me that scabies isn't associated with crawling sensations, so it couldn't be scabies. And the fact that I now have no lesions, but continue to have skin sensations, suggests it isn't and never was scabies. That's after two years of thinking I had scabies... Also, the doctor I spoke to was so convinced of the effectiveness of ivermectin that I'm pretty sure that if I had mites on me, they'd all be dead by now. So if I'm still getting some occasional sensations on my skin, I know it can't be scabies. Finally, I've come to realise that when I feel stressed (about work, usually) the skin sensations come back, which would support the idea that it's stress-related parasthesia, not any kind of infestation. But in order to come to this point, I had to take six weeks of ivermectin, just to be sure it wasn't scabies. It was either 16 or 18 doses over a period of six weeks. Just be sure to put the lotion on before bed and go to sleep straight away, because the stuff starts to sting after an hour or so. You don't want to be awake when it starts to sting. And don't drink alcohol with the tablets, because the combination will make you sick. Best of luck to you. I'll be thinking of you as you do your course!
Central District, Hong Kong
#3 Sep 29, 2010
let me ask you. I still get red marks, small red marks after a day of work, that is why I know it is scabies still. Are these marks part of parathesia?
Also, I have a 45x mini microscope and from a Harvard Journal article, I have pictures of immature mites.
The little black dots which have hair on them running in all different directions ( since the hair runs in all different directions, you know this is an immature mite, versus being a fiber ).
Let me ask you, do you think that 30 days and then about 20 days follow up works? Does it work without making the mites immune in case you/one ever has to go through this again?
Two things, I want to preserve my health and at the same time, preserve my liver which breaks down the alcohol.
Also if you read Progress' article, the one he recommended us to read, it states to take Ivermectin with alcohol or fatty foods.
Each case from what I read on this forum, each case of each person seems a little different, I have the itching and the itching is worse when I feel stressed but the thing that confirms little mites are the actual red bites, little red bites that never ooze pus. Do you or does one get this even with parathesia??
If you like, give me your email, I will send you a copy of the article.
#4 Sep 29, 2010
Maybe this type questioning could be based on a 19th century understanding what could be the case in a 21th century setting?
Understand that Ivermectin is a broad spectrum antibiotic.
Read (or research) again: Ivermectin is a broad spectrum antibiotic.
Next: question that If Ivermectin does not clear up your condition, could you than maybe hit the well known and internationally discussed topic called microbial resistance?
fact is that nearly every factor (disease causing factor in particular) can be cloned into any type microbe.
It is what you sometimes call "study model".
Microbes are cell, like you exist out of cell,
Thus even if you suffer from a scabies(mite) or lice like infestation, the causative agent may actually have a different identity as you would expect.
This would not mean that you could occasionally observe highly identical symptoms strongly resembling scabies, or lice or whatever....
But; as a consequence of its "clonal origin" effective treatment could look totally different.
Because of this "modern" constellation you always first need to isolate the offending agent(s) thus the offending microbial cell, and have susceptibility testing performed to understand what type antibiotic is the most rational choice to try to eradicate the infection.
Because it is very likely that the resistance of the offending agent is very high
(attention: not the equivalent of multi resistant) it is up to the attending medic to decide what type therapeutic answer is justified.
Fact: highly resistant organisms may require multiple IV antibiotics (sometimes given in a quick succession) administered in a hospital setting.
Example: one day this antibiotic, next day already switching to another one.
Fact; Because your symptoms are not critical, it is very unlikely that you ever will be admitted to the hospital to receive this type last resort(salvage) medication.
Costs are very high, and an average stay in the hospital to treat an infection may cost up to $25.000 or even more...
The skin is notorious difficult to saturate with antibiotic, and because of this topical administration has a great therapeutic potential.
In relation to what you may suffer from, and based on the information that recently has been acquired (from multiple sources) it could be highly rational to try out levocetrizine.
Chloramphenicol cream can be used to close many type skin lesions if caused by gram negative organisms, and Fucidin plus bactroban cream if lesions are caused by gram positive organisms like staphylococcus aureus.
You can be carrier of multiple organisms at once.
#5 Sep 29, 2010
Read: This would not mean that you could not occasionally observe highly identical symptoms strongly resembling scabies, or lice or whatever....
#6 Sep 29, 2010
So, let me get this straight. If I stood on my hands and walked around, would the mites fall to the ground and I could be rid of them? Is that what you are saying? If I did do this, would I have to use a topical, too? And what should I do if my change falls out of my pockets?
#7 Sep 29, 2010
I think once every day for 30 days is overkill. Once every 3 days for 30 days would be less toxic and probably just as effective, as ivermectin does not kill the mites which do not have a fully developed nervous system. Less toxic becuase you are taking it 10 days out of the month, instead of 30 days out of the month. Vets do the every day for a month for demodex mites.
#8 Sep 29, 2010
Hong Kong.... Progress has been gone from this forum for a few years now, as he is cured.
#12 Dec 4, 2011
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#13 Dec 5, 2011
i've seen ivermectin tablets on ebay from time to time
#14 Dec 5, 2011
Hi Fed Up:
I remember reading that you were happy with your iver from an online pharmacy (I know you said Magic Pharma sucks - which they do. Their product is incredibly weak compared to the American Stromectol from Merck) Do you happen to remember the manufacturer of your iver? I ordered another lot from Emedoutlet and it was manufactured by Coles and I think it was as limpid as the Magic Pharma. As we all soldier on, thank-you kindly.
#15 Apr 26, 2013
Ivermectin is not an antibiotic, broad spectrum or not. It is a broad spectrum antiparasitic!
#16 May 26, 2013
Correct but I was told by an old cajun to use it for mange and other infections and you always trust an old cajun, they have the best hunting dogs.
#18 Mar 25, 2014
We are trying the 14 day plan. And I stay on the King's Diet and clean everything everyday. Bathe in water treated with swimming pool shock called Star pool shock. Per instructions for the pool. It is a chemical and must be used carefully.
When if pick up something infected or find them on me, I immediately spray with pool water stuff.
We need someone who will do a spread sheet and isn't trying to sell us stuff to keep track and let us know what most people find works. I laundry isn't a problem. I use ammonia or bleach (never both deadly fumes), 20 Teem Borax, hot...hot water and dry everything on high for an hour. I mop with dust mop using pool water mixture.
Put Roach Proof on carpet and pets. Sweep it in. Keep it dry if possible. Or I spraywth
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