scabies
Crawling in AZ

United States

#41 Mar 10, 2007
Sam wrote:
Hi Crawling,
I got a big supply of stuff in mexico. Should have got more. I posted the details, brand names in a post in early Jan - I think on this thread.
I crossed the boarder in San Diego, maybe the pharmacias at your boarder are stricter. brand name of iver is Ivexterm by ICN company. Also got Scabisan (5% permetrina crema and lotion). Found out after the first couple pharmacias they were more helpful when I asked for the mexican name of the products. You should definitely be able to get the BB lotion. I was asking for Benzyl Benzoate when I was there, they didn't know what it was. I should have asked for Ascabiol or Benzemul Application, I think they are OTC there.
Even some doctors here don't know that Elimite is 5% perm, all they know is "Elimite".
I asked the Farmicias in Mexico if they had:
Stromectol, Acticin, Elimite, Nix, Permethrin 5%,
Kwellada-P, Ivermectin or "Mectizan", which I thought was the Mexican name for Stromectol.
I received a negative reaction on all these questions from every Farmacia I visited.
I also received negative and/or unknowledgeable responses when I asked about the Mexican equivalent of these drugs.
I am proud to announce that, as an American, my particular brand of scabies has been raised and fed on US drugs, therefore it is resistant to most treatments available in other countries.
This is my opinion only, based on the reactions I received when inquiring about equivalent treatments available in Mexico.
Any advice would be most welcome...
Sam

Livingston, CA

#42 Mar 10, 2007
Crawling in AZ wrote:
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I asked the Farmicias in Mexico if they had:
Stromectol, Acticin, Elimite, Nix, Permethrin 5%,
Kwellada-P, Ivermectin or "Mectizan", which I thought was the Mexican name for Stromectol.
I received a negative reaction on all these questions from every Farmacia I visited.
I also received negative and/or unknowledgeable responses when I asked about the Mexican equivalent of these drugs.
I am proud to announce that, as an American, my particular brand of scabies has been raised and fed on US drugs, therefore it is resistant to most treatments available in other countries.
This is my opinion only, based on the reactions I received when inquiring about equivalent treatments available in Mexico.
Any advice would be most welcome...
I bet that was a frustrating trip. They don't go by the names you mentioned. All I know is I was able to get them when I called them by the names I listed above. The way I found out the names (I'm not Hispanic) was I said "scabies". The clerk said something in Spanish, and started scratching herself all over. I said, Yes! and started scratching myself too. I don't have a video of that but I wish I did! Then she brought to the counter a bunch of stuff she had for scabies. At the next pharmacy, I asked for the names of the things I had bought. I also had no luck with the word "Mectizan" but I did with Ivexterm, because that is what it says on the box. It also helped that I had written down the names, and they could see it written, my Spanish is not so good.

That is an excellent point you made about the resistance of these bugs - I wonder if we are having a hard time because the foods we eat have been treated with iver and perm? They have done tests on cattle with mad cow to see if it relates to ivermectin use, I haven't been following the studies.

Welcome any comments from vegetarians out there.
Crawling in AZ

United States

#43 Mar 10, 2007
Sam wrote:
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I bet that was a frustrating trip. They don't go by the names you mentioned. All I know is I was able to get them when I called them by the names I listed above. The way I found out the names (I'm not Hispanic) was I said "scabies". The clerk said something in Spanish, and started scratching herself all over. I said, Yes! and started scratching myself too. I don't have a video of that but I wish I did! Then she brought to the counter a bunch of stuff she had for scabies. At the next pharmacy, I asked for the names of the things I had bought. I also had no luck with the word "Mectizan" but I did with Ivexterm, because that is what it says on the box. It also helped that I had written down the names, and they could see it written, my Spanish is not so good.
That is an excellent point you made about the resistance of these bugs - I wonder if we are having a hard time because the foods we eat have been treated with iver and perm? They have done tests on cattle with mad cow to see if it relates to ivermectin use, I haven't been following the studies.
Welcome any comments from vegetarians out there.
I also had these names written down and showed the written list to the Farmacia. It may have been that I was there on the week-end when no MDs are present.
I will try using "Ivexterm" the next time.
I get the feeling at my border that the Mexican Farmacias are afraid of whatever treatment Mexico has to offer because:
a). It is not importable in any way to the USA
b). It [the Mexican Equivalent] will not be
effective on similar symptoms in the US.
P.S. Does this mean we qualify as a 3rd world
country?
Because we have to get basic human being
standard environmental protection measures
from the local Feed Store?
Sam

Livingston, CA

#44 Mar 10, 2007
Crawling in AZ wrote:
<quoted text>
I also had these names written down and showed the written list to the Farmacia. It may have been that I was there on the week-end when no MDs are present.
I will try using "Ivexterm" the next time.
I get the feeling at my border that the Mexican Farmacias are afraid of whatever treatment Mexico has to offer because:
a). It is not importable in any way to the USA
b). It [the Mexican Equivalent] will not be
effective on similar symptoms in the US.
P.S. Does this mean we qualify as a 3rd world
country?
Because we have to get basic human being
standard environmental protection measures
from the local Feed Store?
a) you're welcome for my time
b) you don't make sense
c) try being nice when you go in.

Sam
Mitey Tired

United States

#45 Mar 11, 2007
If you are close to Mexico, you should be able to ger ivermectin there in pill form for humans. Like Sam said, don't go into a Mexican Pharmacy with a bug up your ass. Be very friendly and have a chat with them. Smile and be nice and you will definitely get some assistance there. BE NICE.
Crawling in AZ wrote:
I am not even sure where I contracted scabies, but I think it was from wearing new clothing without washing it first (something I usually do as a routine).
I am allergic to metal so when I started itching around my navel, I thought it was hives from the snap on my jeans. Then, overnight it seemed, huge blotches of this stuff appeared all over my body.
Needless to say, it is DRIVING ME CRAZY!
I don't have insurance and I don't have any money to speak of, so when I read what "Scabies in Fl" had to say, I grabbed my pitiful bank roll and RAN to the nearest feed store.
I can't launder everything all the time, so I am hoping that the combination of Ivermectin and the permethrin spray will do the trick.
By the way, I tried to buy Ivermectin in Mexico, but everyone said it was not available there. There must be something available in Mexico to treat scabies - if anyone finds out what it is, please let me know!
Crawling in AZ

United States

#46 Mar 11, 2007
Mitey Tired wrote:
If you are close to Mexico, you should be able to ger ivermectin there in pill form for humans. Like Sam said, don't go into a Mexican Pharmacy with a bug up your ass. Be very friendly and have a chat with them. Smile and be nice and you will definitely get some assistance there. BE NICE.
<quoted text>
I have been dealing with the same pharmacy and associated MD for 3 years.
There must be something I am missing here - not using the right words????
Crawling in AZ

United States

#47 Mar 11, 2007
By the way, I work at home and my heart goes out to everyone who has appear at a "place of employment" everday with these "Little Biting Heads"
I don't know what I would do if I had to appear at an office or other place with this problem.
jjw

San Jose, CA

#48 Apr 26, 2007
I'm trying to do a bulk order of ivermectin for a scabies eradication project in the DR, how much did your pay for the ivexterm? thanks.
Sam

United States

#49 Apr 26, 2007
jjw wrote:
I'm trying to do a bulk order of ivermectin for a scabies eradication project in the DR, how much did your pay for the ivexterm? thanks.
what's a DR? What's a scabies eradication project? I paid $4.20 for 12 mg Ivexterm, 2 6mg pills. And $3.60 for a 60 gram tube of Scabisan.
Been There

United States

#50 Apr 26, 2007
Sam wrote:
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what's a DR? What's a scabies eradication project? I paid $4.20 for 12 mg Ivexterm, 2 6mg pills. And $3.60 for a 60 gram tube of Scabisan.
Dominican Republic I think.

I spent a month there with an American medical student.....going to school there. parasites galore. saw lots of children suffering....... many other diseases... if this poster is trying to help these people...then this is a very special person.
Been There

United States

#51 Apr 26, 2007
jjw wrote:
I'm trying to do a bulk order of ivermectin for a scabies eradication project in the DR, how much did your pay for the ivexterm? thanks.
What do you think of contacting Merck & Co. the manufacturer of Ivermectin? They have agreed to free supplies of Ivermectin for the treatment of another parasite in Africa. Are you working with health professionals?

Here is a link explaining Merck's charity deal.

http://medilinkz.org/healthtopics/Diseases/on...
Sam

United States

#52 Apr 26, 2007
BT, you are a never ending source of info. I didn't know this was dermal. I thought it was a worm that got into the eyeball.

"Out of some 120 million people world-wide who are at risk of onchocerciasis, 96% are in Africa.

Of the 36 countries where the disease is endemic, 30 are in sub-Sahara Africa (plus Yemen) and six are in the Americas.

A total of 18 million people are infected with the disease and have dermal microfilariae, of whom 99% are in Africa.

Of those infected with the disease, over 6.5 million suffer from severe itching or dermatitis and 270 000 are blind."
Been There

United States

#53 Apr 26, 2007
Sam wrote:
BT, you are a never ending source of info. I didn't know this was dermal. I thought it was a worm that got into the eyeball.
"Out of some 120 million people world-wide who are at risk of onchocerciasis, 96% are in Africa.
Of the 36 countries where the disease is endemic, 30 are in sub-Sahara Africa (plus Yemen) and six are in the Americas.
A total of 18 million people are infected with the disease and have dermal microfilariae, of whom 99% are in Africa.
Of those infected with the disease, over 6.5 million suffer from severe itching or dermatitis and 270 000 are blind."
Yea, this is worse than scabies... that's pretty darn bad. Wonder if Merck is onboard with projects like this to treat scabies endemics? I love Ivermectin!

Onchocerciasis is caused by Onchocerca volvulus, a parasitic worm that lives for up to 14 years in the human body. Each adult female worm, thin but more than 1/2 metre in length, produces millions of microfilariae (microscopic larvae) that migrate throughout the body and give rise to a variety of symptoms: serious visual impairment, including blindness; rashes, lesions, intense itching and depigmentation of the skin; lymphadenitis, which results in hanging groins and elephantiasis of the genitals; and general debilitation. Onchocerciasis manifestations begin to occur in persons one to three years after the injection of infective larvae
Help -

Marietta, GA

#54 May 2, 2007
OK try to Relax, Iv'e had it for about 9 months. I'm taking oregano oil (2-3 drops in water) at GNC also today I bought some neem soap & neem oil at an Indian store. I'v tried the Permethrin about 4 times and in two days I'll do it for the last time hopefully. Shave body hair - if neccesary and create an environment that the scabies can't stand. Bug Bom your car and home with something high in permethrin - Its a War - Don't use towels twice and sleep on a rubber mattress. Help your immune system with Neem capsules and good eating - It's really hard to get rid of these pests - Don't give up -
Help -

Marietta, GA

#55 May 2, 2007
It's pathetic that we have to go to Mexico to get drugs to treat such a horrible affliction. Try Neem oil, oregano oil in your water, neem soap - all at GNC or a indian store - USA sucks for healthcars but USA is good at killing people
Help -

Marietta, GA

#56 May 2, 2007
Does ivermectin work? I see it on the internet for animals and I'm tempted to use it on myself if the neem oil , neem soap, bug boms, sleeping on a rubber mattres - constantly washing myself or clothes , oregano oil in water - etc. doesn't work - This countries healthcare is the pits for something like this. I hope all you with scabies gets cured. I'm almost at ther point of throwing myself in some acid to kill these scabies - tried a bath in bleach & borax but it didn't work good. Can't believe I live in America but have such a horrible affliction -
Help -

Marietta, GA

#57 May 2, 2007
Throw out the shoes - cover your feet with neem oil - get some rubber flip flops
Help -

Marietta, GA

#58 May 2, 2007
Get some neem oil, neem soap, oregano oil & some permethrin cream - get rid of it b4 it spreads - if you get oil on your chin they will spread with it. Wash everything - it's a war but you can win
Help -

Marietta, GA

#59 May 2, 2007
IMOE - get some oregano oil at GNC - take 4-5 drops in a small bit of water 2-3 times a day, get neem soap and neem oil at an indian store - get rid of your bed and get a rubber air mattress. bug bom your home & car - never use your clothes twice - boost your immune system with neem capsules and good eating - use permethrin when you can but these bastards are a hard kill. Use tea tree oil on bites - Do not light yourself on fire or throw yourself into a vat of acid - it will work but the side effects are painful
Help -

Marietta, GA

#60 May 2, 2007
DON'T GET SUICIDAL - I KNOW - WE SHOULD ALL GET 2 GETHER FOR A SCABIES PARTY!!! TRY NEEM SOAP, NEEM OIL ALL OVER AFTER YOUR SHOWER, NEEM CAPSULES TO BOAST YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM, OREGANO OIL FROM GNC IN YOUR WATER - BUG BOM FREQUENTLY, SLLEP ON AN AIR MATTRESS - ALWAYS CHANGE SHEETS AND CLOTHES - NEVER USE TWICE - I'M ALMOST EXHAUSTED MYSELF - BUT I'M GIVING IT ONE MORE TRY B4 THROWING IN THE TOWEL - THESE SCABIES ARE FROM HELL!!! PLEASE DON'T HURT YOURSELF OVER THESE PESTS

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