What medication kills sarcoptic mite'...

What medication kills sarcoptic mite's eggs laid in burrows ?

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Mite Killer

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#1 Nov 11, 2008
and provide proof..studies, medical literiture.

I don't think there is but I'm hoping I'm wrong.
MR AL

Seattle, WA

#2 Nov 11, 2008
Mite Killer wrote:
and provide proof..studies, medical literiture.
I don't think there is but I'm hoping I'm wrong.
You are asking what kills eggs? I honestly think nothing does. They say perm does and others say lindane. I honestly think if you can kill the eggs there would be an easier cure. Well only thing that will kill the eggs is HOT water.
Karin Psychonot

Chester-le-street, UK

#3 Nov 16, 2008
Mite Killer wrote:
and provide proof..studies, medical literiture.
I don't think there is but I'm hoping I'm wrong.
Re Info on Ivermectin Killing eggs. I dont know how to post a link so sorry if long.
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Brand Name Chemical Name
Mectizan, Stromectol ivermectin

How It Works
Ivermectin is a prescription medication taken as a pill to kill scabies mites and their eggs. However, in the United States, treating scabies with ivermectin is considered an unlabeled use of the medication.

Why It Is Used
The role of using ivermectin to treat scabies remains unclear. More study is needed to determine this medication's effectiveness and guidelines for the amount that should be given.1

However, doctors may prescribe ivermectin to treat a scabies infestation in certain situations.2

People who have a severe or resistant form of scabies infestation, such as crusted (Norwegian) scabies, may be prescribed ivermectin in combination with medication applied to the skin, such as permethrin. It can be particularly helpful for treating HIV-infected people who have scabies.
A pill form of medication may be preferred for some people who are unlikely to use topical medicated creams or lotions properly. For example, ivermectin may be the best medication choice for people with conditions that affect intelligence, such as some people with Down syndrome.
Ivermectin may help get rid of or prevent scabies for people in group living situations, such as those who live in nursing homes.
How Well It Works
A medication to treat a scabies infestation is successful when it kills all scabies mites and eggs. More research is needed to find out how effectively ivermectin kills scabies, the amount that should be given, and in which cases it would be the preferred treatment.2, 1

Side Effects
Limited data suggests that ivermectin treatment is safe for adults and children who weigh more than 33 lb (15 kg).

Mild side effects may include:

Stomach upset.
Vomiting.
Increase in rash and itching during the first 3 days of treatment.
See Drug Reference for a full list of side effects.(Drug Reference is not available in all systems.)

What To Think About
Ivermectin is getting more attention in the medical community as a treatment option for scabies. However, more testing is needed to confirm its safety and to identify the people who would benefit most from it.

Complete the new medication information form (PDF)(What is a PDF document?) to help you understand this medication.

References
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Stone SP (2003). Scabies and pediculosis. In IM Freedberg et al., eds., Fitzpatrick's Dermatology in General Medicine, 6th ed., vol. 2, chap. 238, pp. 22832289. New York: McGraw-Hill.

Mathieu ME, Wilson BB (2005). Scabies. In GL Mandell et al., eds., Mandell, Douglas, and Bennett's Principles and Practices of Infectious Diseases, 6th ed., chap. 292, pp. 33043307. Philadelphia: Elsevier Churchill Livingstone.

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Mite Killer

United States

#4 Nov 16, 2008
No, unfortunatly ivermectin only kills adult mites with a developed CNS.

This info appears to have been inserted into cited text and it's a false statemtment and is an example of the confusion we experience about sarcoptic mites and treatment.

Since: Aug 08

Auckland, New Zealand

#5 Nov 16, 2008
Hi Mite Killer, I've done several Iver treatments (maybe more than I needed, but had no side effects). I've had no new itchy spots for a few weeks now, but I took more Iver because I still had so much crawling. However,the crawly feet and head are much the same as they've been for months, though there's nothing to see. No spots, bumps, itching. I still put 10% sulfur on my head each night, and try various things on my feet. All to no avail.
Drs. and Derm. say it's just a nervous reaction to all the batterings that my skin has taken, and will fade after a few months. Strangely, I'm not feeling crawling on other parts of my body though.
A couple of earlier posters said that their crawling lingered after Ivermectin and eventually subsided.
So, I should be reassured, but I'm not. I'm petrified these beasties are just gathering their forces in readiness for another attack !!!
Any opinion from you, or anyone else, would be appreciated.
Mite Killer

United States

#6 Nov 16, 2008
amybelle wrote:
Hi Mite Killer, I've done several Iver treatments (maybe more than I needed, but had no side effects). I've had no new itchy spots for a few weeks now, but I took more Iver because I still had so much crawling. However,the crawly feet and head are much the same as they've been for months, though there's nothing to see. No spots, bumps, itching. I still put 10% sulfur on my head each night, and try various things on my feet. All to no avail.
Drs. and Derm. say it's just a nervous reaction to all the batterings that my skin has taken, and will fade after a few months. Strangely, I'm not feeling crawling on other parts of my body though.
A couple of earlier posters said that their crawling lingered after Ivermectin and eventually subsided.
So, I should be reassured, but I'm not. I'm petrified these beasties are just gathering their forces in readiness for another attack !!!
Any opinion from you, or anyone else, would be appreciated.
Hi amybelle, you may be done with mites if you are not seeing new bumps. In addition to running my hands over my skin to find evidence of mites, I found that showering with a salt scrub mixed with castor oil will "alert" me by feeling a burn any on new holes or tears in my skin caused by mites,burns some healing wounds, exfoliates and turns the bumps very red. Doing this exposes bumps and burrows that may not have been noticed before. If you still don't see any bumps you may be home free. Keep your skin hydrated. BTW..castor oil is obsorbed into the stratum corneum layer, will moistureize the skin and is a good mixer with make it yourself topicals.

Sulfur causes itching(from dry flaky skin) but not crawling.

I sincerely hope you have eliminated every last nasty rotton mite out of your life!

Since: Aug 08

Auckland, New Zealand

#7 Nov 17, 2008
Wow, thanks MK for yet another helpful reply. Your many posts have been of tremendous support to me these past few months.
I had bad rashes behind the knees, all round my neck and in the hair at the nape of my neck ( I sound like an old mangy dog, don't I!) Those areas are still hot and burning. I'd swear the mites were still there, if it were not that I'm not getting new itchy bumps elsewhere. The wrinkly dry skin skin on my neck looks as though it belongs on a centenarian.
I'm currently trying to formulate a mixture of natural ingredients to aid in the healing.
Amybelle.

Since: Aug 08

Auckland, New Zealand

#8 Nov 17, 2008
HEALING OINTMENT FOR SKIN REPAIR :
I mixed about 30 gr. beeswax(used a beeswax candle)in half a litre of oil (olive/almond/or similar bland oil). Warmed it in an old saucepan then stirred to blend. A beekeeper gave me the instructions.
Much better for your skin than petroleum jelly. In fact,I used it as a base for sulfur ointment. I think it helped to counteract the drying effect of the sulfur.
I'm looking for various healing ingredients to add.
Castor oil as you suggested MK. Also, a few drops lavender,tea tree,calendula,neem etc.(a little essential oil is healing but too much of some oils can burn, so I'm cautious with these).
Anybody have any other suggestions as to what could be added ???? We could come up with something helpful to all of us to heal and to prevent skin damage.
Mite Killer

United States

#9 Nov 17, 2008
amybelle wrote:
Wow, thanks MK for yet another helpful reply. Your many posts have been of tremendous support to me these past few months.
I had bad rashes behind the knees, all round my neck and in the hair at the nape of my neck ( I sound like an old mangy dog, don't I!) Those areas are still hot and burning. I'd swear the mites were still there, if it were not that I'm not getting new itchy bumps elsewhere. The wrinkly dry skin skin on my neck looks as though it belongs on a centenarian.
I'm currently trying to formulate a mixture of natural ingredients to aid in the healing.
Amybelle.
Same areas for me too. My neck and back of knees were attacked! so that me another mangy ol dog... it spread from there. I'm trying to heal from that mess and may have a systemic bacterial infection(very common with scabies). Triple antibiotic ointment helps but if it's systemic an oral antibiotic is necessary. Maybe the back of your knees are infected? Red and hot signals infection.

I've taken care of my body all my life with proper diet and exercise, I used to have beautiful skin but it has aged 20yrs, I know exactly what you mean. Amybelle, thanks so much for you posts which have helped me.

Since: Oct 08

Auburn, NY

#10 Nov 17, 2008
My saving grace has been aloe-vera. If you have an aloe plant, cut off a stem or two and drain it's juice into some olive oil, then rub into skin before applying sulfur creme. This will protect your skin from the drying effects of sulfur. Use in between treatments as well.

Alternatively, you can buy "pure" aloe vera gel from the drugstore, but the commercial product contains unsavory ingredients. Better to use your own plant, if you have one. Fresh is best, they say. Or buy aloe vera gel from a health food store. After experimenting with several moisturizers, I found this simple plant outshone the over-hyped competitors.

And for the hair, I've found virgin coconut oil keeps hair and scalp healthy and lubricated amidst medicated scalp torture.

Since: Aug 08

Tauranga, New Zealand

#11 Nov 18, 2008
MK.... Hi again, sounds like we're in a similar boat. Although, as I said, I'm not getting new spots, I've been worried that the back of my knees and my neck may still be harbouring mites, because they're just as hot and burny and itchy as ever. Funny, it comes and goes all day, tho worse evenings. Does that sound similar to yours?
The Derm. said it was dermatitis caused by the topicals but that doesn't figure because they didn't cause dermatitis elsewhere on my body. Prescribed aqueous cream which has done nothing.
Come to think of it, there are lots of bumps on my neck. Nodules ?
Nobody has ever examined these things. They've all just taken one look at my hands and declared that as I've done the treatment I must be post scabies.
Your last paragraph describes me exactly. Always health conscious, never sick in my life, never been to hospital. Up till now my 62 year old skin looked a lot younger than it's years. At least I'm at an age where it's ok to be wrinkly and spotty. I really feel for young people who are left scarred.
Perhaps I'd better get another Dr. to look at my neck. I didn't consider infection, because it's not weepy or yukky looking. Can it be dry and still be infected ???
Thanks MK.

Since: Aug 08

Tauranga, New Zealand

#12 Nov 18, 2008
Hi INFESTED, thanks for the aloe vera tip.
I've been told that peoples of the Pacific Islands, traditionally put coconut oil through their hair to smother mites. Hey..... that must mean that they get mites on their heads too !!!!
Mite Killer

United States

#13 Nov 18, 2008
amybelle wrote:
MK.... Hi again, sounds like we're in a similar boat. Although, as I said, I'm not getting new spots, I've been worried that the back of my knees and my neck may still be harbouring mites, because they're just as hot and burny and itchy as ever. Funny, it comes and goes all day, tho worse evenings. Does that sound similar to yours?
The Derm. said it was dermatitis caused by the topicals but that doesn't figure because they didn't cause dermatitis elsewhere on my body. Prescribed aqueous cream which has done nothing.
Come to think of it, there are lots of bumps on my neck. Nodules ?
Nobody has ever examined these things. They've all just taken one look at my hands and declared that as I've done the treatment I must be post scabies.
Your last paragraph describes me exactly. Always health conscious, never sick in my life, never been to hospital. Up till now my 62 year old skin looked a lot younger than it's years. At least I'm at an age where it's ok to be wrinkly and spotty. I really feel for young people who are left scarred.
Perhaps I'd better get another Dr. to look at my neck. I didn't consider infection, because it's not weepy or yukky looking. Can it be dry and still be infected ???
Thanks MK.
My itching gets worse at night but I still have bumps on back of knees and legs. The skin on the back of knees is very thin and you may have developed exactly what the derm said. As for the nodules or bumps on your neck...could be that the mites are dead but you still have debris left under the skin. I still have bumps on my back, I've had bumps on my shoulders that took forever to heal. Sometimes the nodules heal very slowly. A few other posters(Sam, Slomo) had them and they eventually healed. Maybe using a triple antibiotic oitment and your moisture treatment on these areas will help.

I'm almost 60 myself, have had thin skin all my life. It's easier for mites to dig into thin skin, maybe that's why they love us so much!
Mite Killer

United States

#14 Nov 18, 2008
Oils I use are coconut, castor, olive, sesame, avocoto and a few more. I make a mixure of salt, oils and lemon for a shower scrub and I use a scrub brush. The salt helps to remove the dead skin but it will burn any open wounds, so go easy with the salt.

I'm now mixing aloe into my body oil concoction. Thank you Infested! Thank you Amybelle!
Mite Killer

United States

#15 Nov 18, 2008
amybelle, inflamation of the skin may be treated with cortizone cream. a low dose OTC cream may help. maybe you should see that derm again...

Since: Aug 08

Auckland, New Zealand

#16 Nov 18, 2008
Thanks for all that MK. Costs a fortune to see the Derm. so I'll try the OTC first. Someone suggested colloidal silver too. Plus I think I'll make up a mixture of oils as you suggest.
My concern was that there were still mites around my neck, which probably doesn't make sense if I'm not getting new bumps elsewhere.
It's so hard not to worry isn't it. I won't relax unless I've been clear for a few more weeks.
AB.

Since: Aug 08

Auckland, New Zealand

#17 Nov 18, 2008
MK, are the bumps on back of your knees and legs, new itchy bumps or old nodules ?
I sure hope you're not getting new itches.
AB.

Since: Aug 08

Auckland, New Zealand

#18 Nov 18, 2008
MK, apparently everything itches more at night, so, whether it's active or post-scabies it'll itch more.
The body's histamine reaction I'm informed.
That was another sign that caused me to think I may be still infested. Phew, seems I can cross that one off my list.
Mite Killer

United States

#19 Nov 18, 2008
amybelle wrote:
MK, are the bumps on back of your knees and legs, new itchy bumps or old nodules ?
I sure hope you're not getting new itches.
AB.
Maybe both?

Since: Aug 08

Auckland, New Zealand

#20 Nov 18, 2008
I do hope that they're not new bumps MK. My old nodules appear to be under the skin. Also not as intensely itchy, and not red like new bumps, which looked more like mossie bites on me.
It's horrible that's there's no reliable test for the presence of these mites. I'm sure I read somewhere that there is some sort of blue light you can go under which shows them up.
I'm still isolating myself from family and friends. Maybe I needn't be, but I just don't know ????
I sure that other posters must often be in this position too.

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