Ivermectin > Permethrin?
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Me Too

Murrieta, CA

#22 Sep 25, 2011
informed wrote:
Me Too I had to buy 2.5 Ltr bottle [84.5 oz] of the pore on ivermecton it is not durvet it is aspin veternary pharmasuticals made by FIRST PRIORITY, INC Elgin IL it smells of strong alchol and is light blue in color it is 5mg Ivermectin/mL i do hope it is the same cost 70 bucks here in the country feed store is this basicly what u used
Yes, basically it sounds the same although it is a quite a bit more than you need. I have an 8.5 oz bottle and still have 2/3 left.
informed

Killeen, TX

#23 Sep 26, 2011
I put pour on ivermectin in spray bottle not paying any mind to how much ...i spray on after shower with 10 minet wait for sulfer soap and shampoo is on then dry off and cover my whole body w/iver w/spraybottle and rub in go to bed get up then cover whole body w/10% perm mixed w/50%lavender body cream iver chases them out and perm kills them i have massive bruising all over my body if i take a break they go crazy so i am non stop hoping i kill them all 3 days wont do for me i am so infested i realy dont know how long i have had them i just hope i dont cause myself bad health problems later ...they gotta GO !!!!!

Since: Apr 11

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#24 Sep 26, 2011
informed wrote:
I put pour on ivermectin in spray bottle not paying any mind to how much ...i spray on after shower with 10 minet wait for sulfer soap and shampoo is on then dry off and cover my whole body w/iver w/spraybottle and rub in go to bed get up then cover whole body w/10% perm mixed w/50%lavender body cream iver chases them out and perm kills them i have massive bruising all over my body if i take a break they go crazy so i am non stop hoping i kill them all 3 days wont do for me i am so infested i realy dont know how long i have had them i just hope i dont cause myself bad health problems later ...they gotta GO !!!!!
Informed were your scabies previously barely noticeable until you did something that made them reveal themselves more on your body? This happened to me and Im wondering how long Ive had them too now.

Since: Apr 11

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#25 Sep 26, 2011
Me Too wrote:
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Yes, basically it sounds the same although it is a quite a bit more than you need. I have an 8.5 oz bottle and still have 2/3 left.
Does Durvet have an alcohol base?
Me Too

Murrieta, CA

#26 Sep 26, 2011
Catzillaa wrote:
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Does Durvet have an alcohol base?
Yes, I think it does.
informed

Killeen, TX

#27 Sep 28, 2011
what a relief day 7 36 hours no needle pokes no crawling WOW I showered w/sulfer soap and shampoo this morning then dried off then again sprayed on a coat head to toe with por on ivermectin just for good measure my skin is looking soooo much better have dark spots large and small GOOD THEY ARE DEAD !!!! WILL KEEP YALL POSTED
Sarah

Dallas, TX

#28 Nov 24, 2011
I can recommend a reputable pharmacy (Ivermectin)- securedrugstock.com/order-stromectol-online-e... I received the order and it was on time and the pills work great.
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Since: Oct 11

Hobart, Australia

#29 Nov 26, 2011
THE CURE FOR SCABIES IS PYRETHRUM! NOT PERETHRIN.
PYRETHRUM is the natural substance that perethrin was based on.
Pyrethrum comes from chrysanthemum flowers, it is non-toxic to mammals but toxic to aquatic life.
Perethrin is fairly non-toxic for humans but toxic for cats and aquatic life. The problem with perethrin is that some generations of scabies mites have become resistant to it.
Apparently there are no insects that are resistant to the non-toxic pyrethrum, because its molecules are more complex than its synthetic counterpart and because hardly one uses it- we have all been conned by chemical companies into thinking synthetic chemicals work best.
You can read about the difference between pyrethrum and perethrin here
http://www.livingwithbugs.com/permethrin_pyre ...
and about insect resistance to chemicals here
http://www.pestech.com.au/insect-resistance/
Pyrethroids- this term refers to both the natural and synthetic chemical that kills insects, so if you read about it know that it is not a term that discerns between the two. You may read that pyrethroids are toxic to cats, if you read that they are talking about the synthetic version- perethrin, not the organic version, pyrethrum. The natural version may also be referred to as pyrethrins- watch for the py at the beginning.
read about how pyrethrum kills insects here under 'mechanism of action':
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrethroid
How I used pyrethrum to cure myself of scabies:
I purchased a bottle of pyrethrum from a garden/hardware centre. Be sure you get one that contains only pyrethrum and one other component-
Piperonyl butoxide- its there to enhance the pyrethrum. PIPERONYL BUTOXIDE IS NOT SAFE FOR PREGNANT WOMEN, AND VERY YOUNG CHILDREN- however it seems to be safe for the rest of us- read more about it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piperonyl_butoxi ...
http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/pbogen.pdf
Get the one that has just pyrethrum (which may be called pyrethrins when they note the concentration) and piperonyl butoxide.
I bought a bottle with this concentration:
4g/L Pyrethrum and 16g/L of Piperonyl butoxide.
You can buy it in stronger and weaker concentrations, whichever you get dilute it with water according to the instructions on bottle. The first time I used it I didn't dilute it, but I think its best to, and VERY economical too. You can put it on your genitals and it won't sting, it has virtually no odor and won't stain your clothes. I wet all of my hair with it, my scalp, my face, including close to my eyes...everywhere. It kills mites in minutes, but I left it on my body overnight. Once you have put it on you may feel a pinprick or a bite now or then, it is a mite that was too deep in the skin to be killed- just spray some on the area and it will die. This happens mostly on the scalp. Spray a small amount on yourself wherever you itch, treat yourself all over twice a day, until your completely clear.(2 weeks at most) You can spray it on your laundry, I would suggest after you have washed them, because if you put it in your washing machine it will get into the water system and harm fish. Don't use it in sunlight, it doesn't work. Spray your house and car with it.
You will still have a rash for a while, I would keep using the pyrethrum till the rash is gone and there is no itching. Exfoliating reduces itching and helps eliminate toxins. Tea tree oil also eases itching.
I am cured now and you will be too, at very little cost and no toxicity.
tmarie

Denver, CO

#30 Apr 13, 2012
wow..this is info you cant put a price on. Been to 16 Drs. and tried everything. Now covered with the unsightly bumps pretty much dis-figured, hair fell out twice. gave up on drs. Last one prescribed me 3 60 grm tubes of vaseline based steroid.
Great treatment for exema, but doesnt do a damn thing for my scabies problem. Been struggling with it for 4 yrs now. All the drs. I went to would prescribe the 1% perm, 5% perm and tubes of $100 creams i cant afford. I will try this and treat my dog, car as well and throw the rest of my possessions away. Worried that my daughter has it and 7 mth old boy. She says she has symptom of crawling in private but ignores it...I'am like what??? Finally have some will try. Hope for the cure
Tmarie
Langoliers

Potosi, MO

#33 Apr 14, 2012
Be careful of the on line pills.
Most are fake and do nothing.
Something else to know if you use the pill or horse paste you only have a few shots at getting them. After a few treatment your liver produces enough of this enzyme to neutralize the Iver so make sure your first few doses are strong. You really only have two good shots at it do make them count.

Since: Jan 10

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#34 Apr 14, 2012
Do the publications you are referring to make any mention of how long this enzyme stays in your body?
I've used iver a few times, for several treatments within a one month period, then after several months got reinfected, used it again and it worked well...not that I would suggest anyone languish with this for a long period of time, but I'm wondering how your information may apply (or not)for those that get reinfected and have a gap between their use of iver.
If we knew the period of time the enzyme takes to leave your body (if indeed it does) it could also help people come up with a treatment plan that alternates the use of iver with other treatments, without resorting to forever higher doses of iver.
Langoliers

Potosi, MO

#35 Apr 14, 2012
armed and fabulous wrote:
Do the publications you are referring to make any mention of how long this enzyme stays in your body?
I've used iver a few times, for several treatments within a one month period, then after several months got reinfected, used it again and it worked well...not that I would suggest anyone languish with this for a long period of time, but I'm wondering how your information may apply (or not)for those that get reinfected and have a gap between their use of iver.
If we knew the period of time the enzyme takes to leave your body (if indeed it does) it could also help people come up with a treatment plan that alternates the use of iver with other treatments, without resorting to forever higher doses of iver.
It's not that the enzymes stay in the body it's the liver that recognizes the Iver and then makes the enzymes the Limites the power of the drug

Iver has an 18 hour useful life in the body. However it takes 12 days to completely leave the body. Only about 2% of it makes it to the skin on the first usages it goes down from there on each usages.

So if you use this hit it hard at first to make it count after that your Chances of it killing them all goes down hill fast. Then you have nothing that can get to them all 100% below the skin. You can't use creams everywhere like in your eyes and creams do not get all the way through the skin on 100% of your body no matter how hard you try it's not all going to soak all the way through. Ivermectin is carried through out the body everywhere under the skin.
Langoliers

Potosi, MO

#37 Apr 14, 2012
augustmidwest wrote:
<quoted text>Hey "Langoliers",
Your foxes in the yard got me thinking and I found some support groups in the U.K. that help wild foxes with mange. They all use a homeopathic cure that they say works amazingly well and has a 99% success rate. I just started a new thread called "99% Sarcoptic Scabiei Cure" so the info and links are all there. I bought some of the stuff and took it myself.

Maybe you can help your little furry friends out too.
Will give it a good look over. I don't know if they have mange see it's spring and they are blowing their coats right now.
Scabiegirl

New York, NY

#38 Jun 9, 2012
Ok guys I am seriously impressed with the pour on. I tried everything really everything. Sulfur was to drying and my skin was kind of allergic to it. When I applied pour on I thought it wasn't working I left it like for like 16 hours. And I think that is too much bc then my skin would get red and itchier. Anyway after the 16 hours craziness I got home and took a oatmeal bath w all the essential oils we all know.( tea tree oil lavender etc) so then after that I felt my crawlies went down to 10 % of what it has been for two months since i start permethrin and stromectol ( once i dan out i did iver 1%) i have been taking them once a week for 2 months? Of course symptoms got better but the crawling and some pinpricks were killing me. I was still feeling infected. I was especially feeling crawly on my face eyes ears scalp and inside the nose.( forgot to mention that I applies this product at night and next morning bunch of lines in s on my face and I know they are not veins, veins don't run like that that freak me out bc my body sucks and don't show visible signs more than the pimples , no burrows no lines until I put this product on.
This is the first time in two months that i feel i am finally going somewhere. And how wonderful that feeling is. I have spent 4k trying to figure this out. Unbelievable. Anyway I know I am having success bc I have done many things ( cleaning very well environment and clothing. Plus steaming and ironing what I will wear for the day make such a difference. this includes shoes and bags etc) scabies takes time to cure and each case is so different. Some have animals some dont ( animal scabies are harder since they can live longer than scabies in the environment.) some are trying to treat a whole family some don't ( some people are cooperative some don't) some have another type of mite, some became allergic to dust mites. So that is why each case is very unique. Idk why my body doesnt show clear burrows like some of u. But once I do treatment the S lines shows up. How a doctor will ever see this? I barely show symptoms, two bites burrows on my back and few on my neck and face.
Anyway I know I was with this for like 4 months without knowing what it was. Doctors didn't know and I though it was coming from my dog, I gave my dog away. He was so amazing. Anyway now I know I have the human type ( I am single, no bf at all, not a big network of friends) I see my family once a year. But I do travel a lot and stay at hotels many times a month and I know it was an infested bed or plane.
This gave me hope I haven't felt in a long time. I wont say I am cured. Tonight I am doing my second night and I put a little bit on my hair on the back just to try of my hair doesn't fall off. Tomorrow I will do my third.
I want to advice to those who were taking ivermectin internally that please read about the drug bc it says that some medication including some vitamins etc could interfere with the efficiency of this product. I read it today.
Scabiegirl

New York, NY

#39 Jun 9, 2012
I also do feel that some bodies will take ivermectin to where it has to be skin. Some others won't do it. Who knows why. Metabolism. One thing I did wrong was eating something fatty w ivermectin. And i didn't wait at least 3 hours after dose to start taking grapefruit juice. I stopped taking oral iver 5 days ago I don't know how good is to do iver internally and also externally at the same time. Overdose?
I won't call it a cure but again I think depending on how many months you had it the most difficult.
I had it for many months without even having much visible symptoms. My body exploded bc the mite numbers were to high. My scalp was full of them. Did two Advantix treatment there and they died. But crawlies on my body never stopped this good as last night and today w the iver on my skin.
I love this product bc it doesnt smell it doesnt dry my skin and I can wear it when in social situations until I feel safe. I will try it for 2 more days and will keep posted. I will do it on my scalp once I know my hair won't fall off. And repeat each 7 days for 3 weeks. I have very delicate skin and this doesn't bother me but cannot to more than 12 hours bc I get red and itchier.
If this a cure I know how to beat this even if I get again from a hotel. If this works I will make a mix of permethrin and iver and spray the hell of my car and every plane seat and bed hotel forever. And I also will treat shoes and bags w this pour on.
This is first 16 hours. It my skin show hidden burrows. And I have almost no crawlies for the first time in 2 months.
After all is done I will take vitamins and garlic for ever to boost my immune system. Use creams that will repeal tthis. Like a peppermint body lotion. So at least I will lower my chances of getting this again. This is a life changing experience. I think for good.
I won't call it a cure but this product is a cherry of the cake I was waiting 4.
Scabiegirl

New York, NY

#40 Jun 9, 2012
Will keep posted. Pour on is almost odorless and it is a bit oily so good for skin! Will keep the cleaning regime for a month. I will sleep good tonight.
Emma

Dallas, TX

#41 Oct 3, 2012
Ivermectin - http://www.7-rx.com/catalog/Antibiotics/Strom... I recieved my pills within one week of ordering them.
Remanasco

Gardendale, AL

#43 Oct 26, 2012
Scabiegirl wrote:
Will keep posted. Pour on is almost odorless and it is a bit oily so good for skin! Will keep the cleaning regime for a month. I will sleep good tonight.
I seemed to get lost in all the threads but what exactly did you do to get rid of the scabies?

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