350Z Dude

Fort Worth, TX

#22 May 3, 2009
Jordan, thank you for taking the time out to help the rest of us. I am going to start your treatment next week - this shit is killing me.
itchygirl in oh

Youngstown, OH

#23 May 3, 2009
In spite of being a human guinea pig, this treatment worries me a little. I bought some freedom 45, but I have chickened out. I might break down and do it at 3am, though. I hate not being able to sleep. Has anyone else here had luck with this?????? PLease please tell us about it. Thanks!
buggie

United States

#24 May 4, 2009
itchygirl in oh wrote:
In spite of being a human guinea pig, this treatment worries me a little. I bought some freedom 45, but I have chickened out. I might break down and do it at 3am, though. I hate not being able to sleep. Has anyone else here had luck with this?????? PLease please tell us about it. Thanks!
where did you buy freedom45? I think you should try it. Just follow jordans directions and treat your head also. I applied feedstore liquid perm mixed with eucerin lotion for 8 days, not sure of the strength, at least 5 percent I hope, and it felt like poison but did some good. At the end I got, first time ever, brand new bites below my earlobes and bumps on right foot and left forearm and privates which I wanted to itch, but didn't. I rarely had itchy spots before I used the 8 days of perm. Now I'm making a healing mixture of jarrows msm powder, eucerin lotion and alka thyme which is the edgar cayce version of listerine. The itch is gone. Reyrey sprayed himself with original listerine because he believed it negated the pheramones on his skin which attracts bugs. He also sprayed the shower floor with windex a mite killer.
350Z Dude

Fort Worth, TX

#25 May 4, 2009
The other question is, what is the correct procedure for taking doctor prescribed perm & iver at the same time?
Joe

Hollywood, FL

#26 May 4, 2009
350Z Dude wrote:
The other question is, what is the correct procedure for taking doctor prescribed perm & iver at the same time?
the permethrin is to be applied topically from head to toe. the ivermectin is to be taken orally, once a week for about 4 weeks. ensure you take enough ivermectin for your weight.
itchygirl in oh

Youngstown, OH

#27 May 4, 2009
I got doggie Freedom 45 at a Tractor Supply store (feed store). I also noticed when I was going through my dog stuff that some of the spot on type flea stuff I picked up last year from Big Lots was 45% perm. Not sure of the price, but it was cheap. I think it is called "Bio Spot". I am going to check big lots out tomorrow for more. The freedom was about $10 for two 2oz. tubes. I am still using sulfur right now, but I have changed my base to the heavy Eucarin cream. I can only use it at night, though, it smells like ass. Still working up my nerve to use the perm. I have oodles of prescription perm, but it doesn't work on me. I use it on my family when I reinfect them. I think my skin absorbs the perm too quickly; I feel the bugs getting active again about three hours after using it, then it just gets worse instead of better. As soon as I wash it off I'm back where I started. I'm afraid if I use enough perm to kill the bugs I will be close to poisoning myself, considering that I am probably absorbing a lot of it.
I use listerine in a spray bottle as a disinfectant for hard surfaces. I spray my plastic mattress covers, etc, with it. I also spritz some of my more durable couches and carpets with it. It has a nice clean smell and is nontoxic. It also polishes mirrors nicely!
MR AL

Olympia, WA

#28 May 6, 2009
Wow you guys are seriously going to kill yourselves.. 45% perm.. That is very dangerous. Good luck with that..
MR AL

Olympia, WA

#29 May 6, 2009
Also would like to add the fact Perm causes scabies like bumps and is known to cause rashes.. WOW you guys are playing with fire..
itchygirl in oh

Youngstown, OH

#30 May 7, 2009
Mr. Al,
I've had this crap since January. I've gone through multiple tubes of perm, even dosing daily at one point, I've used neem, I've used diatomaceous earth, I've tried borax and epsom salts and I've used BB. I've used cattle injetable iver as as an oral and horse paste as a topical. I am currently using sulfur with eucarin cream, which keeps my population down but doesn't wipe them out. I have dogs and cats on revolution, and I wash everything in hot with ammonia. I have DE on my floors. I spray flea and tick spray and listerine everywhere that I can't bleach. I've been to three doctors, two of whom gave me very bad advice and the third was unwilling to treat aggressively except with perm. I've spent thousands of dollars and countless hours cleaning, treating and researching. I can't sleep with my husband and I'm afraid to touch my kids, whom I've reinfected several times. At this point I'm just about willing to try anything.
As for the scabies like bumps caused by perm, I am aware of them. I don't have any. My skin is beautiful thanks to all of the eucarin and neem. What I do have are fresh 'pinprick' bites clustered in various spots, and crawlies that get worse at night. If I'm not wearing sulfur and eucarin I get bitten as well. It is definitely scabies; when I give it to my husband or kids it appears as a more typical scabies rash, which they get rid of by using perm. I just think my immune system is not reacting to the beasties at all, and if I hadn't been treating I would be well on my way to a case of Norwegian scabies by now. Yes, I am desperate.
MR AL

Olympia, WA

#31 May 7, 2009
itchygirl in oh wrote:
Mr. Al,
I've had this crap since January. I've gone through multiple tubes of perm, even dosing daily at one point, I've used neem, I've used diatomaceous earth, I've tried borax and epsom salts and I've used BB. I've used cattle injetable iver as as an oral and horse paste as a topical. I am currently using sulfur with eucarin cream, which keeps my population down but doesn't wipe them out. I have dogs and cats on revolution, and I wash everything in hot with ammonia. I have DE on my floors. I spray flea and tick spray and listerine everywhere that I can't bleach. I've been to three doctors, two of whom gave me very bad advice and the third was unwilling to treat aggressively except with perm. I've spent thousands of dollars and countless hours cleaning, treating and researching. I can't sleep with my husband and I'm afraid to touch my kids, whom I've reinfected several times. At this point I'm just about willing to try anything.
As for the scabies like bumps caused by perm, I am aware of them. I don't have any. My skin is beautiful thanks to all of the eucarin and neem. What I do have are fresh 'pinprick' bites clustered in various spots, and crawlies that get worse at night. If I'm not wearing sulfur and eucarin I get bitten as well. It is definitely scabies; when I give it to my husband or kids it appears as a more typical scabies rash, which they get rid of by using perm. I just think my immune system is not reacting to the beasties at all, and if I hadn't been treating I would be well on my way to a case of Norwegian scabies by now. Yes, I am desperate.
That is so way over the top and that could eventually kill you. I understand what you are going through. I been through the same thing. Nothing worked. Ivermectin, BB, Perm or whatever. What I do know is that if you have been dealing with this for over 90 days lets say 6 moths you have to treat daily. Obviously you cannot do that with Perm and or other medications. So I went with 50% sulfer and did this for over a month everyday. I am willing to bet your clothes are infecting you and from my experience with that it is hard to get out of the clothes.

Check out this link about Tetsmol soap, wash with this soap everyday. I was hoping people will not do crazy things to try to beat this.

http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/TK9...
buggie

United States

#32 May 8, 2009
itchygirl in oh wrote:
Mr. Al,
I've had this crap since January. I've gone through multiple tubes of perm, even dosing daily at one point, I've used neem, I've used diatomaceous earth, I've tried borax and epsom salts and I've used BB. I've used cattle injetable iver as as an oral and horse paste as a topical. I am currently using sulfur with eucarin cream, which keeps my population down but doesn't wipe them out. I have dogs and cats on revolution, and I wash everything in hot with ammonia. I have DE on my floors. I spray flea and tick spray and listerine everywhere that I can't bleach. I've been to three doctors, two of whom gave me very bad advice and the third was unwilling to treat aggressively except with perm. I've spent thousands of dollars and countless hours cleaning, treating and researching. I can't sleep with my husband and I'm afraid to touch my kids, whom I've reinfected several times. At this point I'm just about willing to try anything.
As for the scabies like bumps caused by perm, I am aware of them. I don't have any. My skin is beautiful thanks to all of the eucarin and neem. What I do have are fresh 'pinprick' bites clustered in various spots, and crawlies that get worse at night. If I'm not wearing sulfur and eucarin I get bitten as well. It is definitely scabies; when I give it to my husband or kids it appears as a more typical scabies rash, which they get rid of by using perm. I just think my immune system is not reacting to the beasties at all, and if I hadn't been treating I would be well on my way to a case of Norwegian scabies by now. Yes, I am desperate.
itchy girl in oh, I wrote a long post and it disappeared. Windex kills mites in the environment so mop floors and spray shower with it.. Original Listerine interupts the pheramones on your skin that attract mites but it doesn't kill mites. Info is from reyrey aka anthony rey here. He cured his family of 5 and posted the cure on avianweb.com look under mites that attack humans. Maybe someone could repost his cure...I'm on a cellphone can't copy and paste. You get infected from your dogs and all laundry I'm guessing. Today I rinsed me and cat with teds mange mite cure, air dried, and I covered my body with my new mixture of lubriderm, jarrows msm powder and alka thyme...listerine equivalent. Feels good and is nongreasy and nonsmelly.
buggie

United States

#33 May 27, 2009
I'm bumping the freedom45 thread. The I'm cured thread and progresses thread and jordans freedom45 threads I highly recommend reading the entire threads to anyone who is seriously wanting a cure. anthony rey also posted his cure on avianweb.com . keep an open mind. Use what works for best you. If you don't have internet access go to the library and print out the pages just remember mites love the warmth of computers and they love paper. I spray best yet and have no problem. I used to bag papers with sulfer. You could spray with windex.
buggie

United States

#34 Jun 2, 2009
Entire thread worth reading. Bumping.
Jordan

Mount Gilead, OH

#35 Jun 8, 2009
Ok for all you itchy people. I'm sure you have read most of my posts. Its been since about march since i got a new bump. And omg i feel greaaaat. Got my std results back cleaaar as a whistle. Also you know how they changed to 2x soap, i think alot of the bumps were me USING SO MUCH SOAP CUZ I WAS PARANOID!!!!!!!!Heres some things to keep in mind. ITS GONE TO YOUR HEAD, ITS TIME TO GET IT OUT. I do strongly believe i had scabies. I also agree with mr olypia or whatever that permetherin will cause a rash for up to a month after you stop using it. with keeping all this in mind. I dont think you really need freedom 45, i wouldnt suggest it. Two treatments of permetherin should and will work. Then give your skin a break for 2 months seriously dont think about it just give it a break!!!!!!!. Cut down on your soaps. Go get tested for stds if your sexually active and go on with your life. I wish you all the best of luck and i hope everyone gets better!
Jordann

Mount Gilead, OH

#36 Jun 8, 2009
one more thing to add when i say soap. I mean laundry detergent and fabric softner and bleach... just some ideas. because my skins sensative... Look up contact dermatits.. pictures on google...
ohsomiserable

Moscow, ID

#37 Jun 10, 2009
well i used the freedom 45. my itching is long gone, but my skin is pretty messed up. lots of bumps that do not want to heal.

Since: Jun 09

South Plainfield, NJ

#38 Jun 10, 2009
For HARD TO HEAL skin wounds that are big - open - infected or just hard to heal - I found this amazing stuff- I'm pasting the info here- don't buy it in the U.S. it's like $60 per jar here, but in N.Z it is about $5.00 - I bought 10 jars!
This stuff heals major wounds in 2 days - I was amazed. Thought I'd be scared for life from the scabies marks and never get rid of secondary scabies infections in my leg.

Kumarahou Skin Nurse
This healing compound is nothing short of amazing, when used as a drawing poultice for external ulcerations, pus-sores, as well as skin melanomas. Contains the highest Activity Liquid Carbon, indispensable for withdrawing toxins from the skin. 50 gms
Brand:
Malcolm Harker
link:
http://www.healthy.co.nz/kumarahou-skin-nurse...

I feel much better and I'm healing now --also read my post about Killing scabies eggs with Neem Leaf Capsules internally with no side effects .

I'm on day 3 - I think it's working - no new bites- still have the creepy crawlies but NO NEW BITES.

Later today I will list all that I am taking internally and doing externally --
so others can try it.

I hope this helps someone.
Cindy The Mitey Warrior
MR AL

Olympia, WA

#39 Jun 10, 2009
ohsomiserable wrote:
so, i work in a nursing home. we've recently had a scabies outbreak. i've been off work for 2 months due to another work related injurt. the scabies outbreak started just before i went off of work. at first, of course, i thought i didn't get it. i thought it was a miracle. so a month or so goes by and i start itching. it's now going into the second month. i'm poor and can't go to the doctor atm. so i bought some freedom 45 for dogs and i'm waiting for it to arrive. i guess i'm just a bit paranoid, since it says absolutely do not put on human skin. but i just want these things gone, so it has to be somewhat safe, yes?
No it is not some what safe!!
turnr848

Saint Paul, MN

#40 May 26, 2010
I tried the freedom 45 on myself and it worked to a point.
The best way to get rid of scabies ( common name BED BUGS)Is to interrupt their reproduction cycle.
This can be done by using Hot Shot Bed Bug and Flea Foggers.
They have an enzyme in them that disrupts the reproductive cycle of the scabies.
Bed Bugs

Chatsworth, GA

#41 Oct 17, 2010
Sounds like some of you may be infested with bedbugs. They only come out at night to feed on you while your sleeping. Really gross but a problem that's growing everywhere. Heat is what kills them and their eggs.

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