Morgellons starts out like scabies...read all sufferers.

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Pat1153

Virginia Beach, VA

#1 Sep 15, 2011
I honestly believe alot of scabies sufferers have Morgellons as I do. If you continually suffer with the sores, crawling, biting, pricking,and itching and it's not gotten better than consider it. It wouldn't be good news since there's no cure yet. You can pretty much forget about getting ANY help from alot of the medical field.In my opinion, the worse are Dermatologists! I'm just starting to look for a doc in my area that treats this. Since I purchased my microscope, I've found black, red, blue and crystal fibers around and in my skin!I read alot about this new mysterious disease and found much more in common including alot of other ailments that I didn't know was related specifically to Morgellon's! Look up Dr. Amelia Withington. She has Morgellon's, was also diagnosed with Delusional Parasitosis as was I and is a doc in neurology and psychiatry! Read the symptoms on Morgellons.org and go to NMO.org (stands for the New Morgellon's). Just put www. in front of them. Read Dr. Withington's speech at the NMO conference.I highly recommend you read the speech as if you have it, it will make you feel better! First,read. See if you have the symptoms. It starts out like Norwegian Scabies. Get a microscope and look at your skin too. I found one on Craigs List for $75, has up to 200X mag. Lastly go to CDC's website as the number is like 12,000 ppl have contacted them regarding these symptoms and they're having it investigated by Keisers ....some company in California and I can't remember entire name, etc but on the CDCs website. Other sites as mentioned above have ALOT more about Morgellon's on them so start thinking about it everyone. I was betting my life I had scabies! Glad that bet didn't hold up since I'm sure I have it as I have WAY too many symptoms. Some ppl don't have alot of the same symptoms but all have these crazy colored fibers and ppl that don't have Morgellons, don't have these fibers! Also, everyone seems to have Lyme Disease or the symptoms of it and I know I need to get a doc to test me for it but have to find one to do it. I don't have health ins or a job and just glad I'm not on the street living but still.....I think they say all with Morgellon's tests positive for Lyme Disease...ugh....but now maybe we can get ppl to listen, especially docs and scientists, etc!!! Take heed, check it out as I just knew it was scabies and have had this for 8 mths and didn't even bother to look up this Morgellon's thing. Now, I am SURE...dang it!
Danser

Marysville, CA

#2 Sep 15, 2011
"After reading some of the testimonials [on the NutraSilver web site www.nutrasilver.com ], I decided to try NutraSilver to deal with Morgellons.

"I haven't even finished my first bottle yet, but am already feeling better, with 80% less crawling and biting.

"The first day, using the lowest dose of Nutrasilver, my nosebleeds subsided and a worm ejected itself from each nostril, at different times. No nosebleeds since then. It's so nice to think that the future might bring something positive. I've been depressed for so long (4 years since coming down with this illness). I'm hoping that others out there might give NutraSilver a try.

"Life really can get better!"
HappySoul

Vancouver, Canada

#3 Sep 16, 2011
Mycoplasma could be the cause

Checkout this guy
http://www.whale.to/c/cantwell_alan.html
FRED

Golden, CO

#4 Aug 27, 2013
Unfortunately Silver has other huge toxicity issues.

Morgellons is the human version of Crown Gall disease.

Crown gall disease id caused by agrobacterium tumefaciens which is a bacteria capable of creating transgenic growths. It infects plants and humans.

Since: Jun 12

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#5 Sep 7, 2013
FRED wrote:
Unfortunately Silver has other huge toxicity issues.
Morgellons is the human version of Crown Gall disease.
Crown gall disease id caused by agrobacterium tumefaciens which is a bacteria capable of creating transgenic growths. It infects plants and humans.
Hi Fred, question for you. Boosting my immune system has done wonders not to mention swimming this summer. Been doing lots of research regarding Lyme, Morgs, etc. am taking nutrasilver and haven't had anything come out of my skin in weeks. Clearing the skin surface. Now I have to go after what's under the skin, scalp, hands and feet as I still feel the biting and movement down deep. Bottom line, whether it's a mite, Lyme or morgellons, you were right about penetrating the biofilm so the immune system can do its job. My question for you is about which protocol to take. There are many different protocols as you know. Which protocol do you recommend? One Dr. Advises taking Bromelain and serrapeptase for breaking down the biofilm as I recall you were taking something different. Have you listed your protocol on the forum anywhere? Regardless of what I have, I want to get rid of this once and for all. I would love to read and compare which cocktail you are taking. I'm close but need to finish this disease off, hopefully. I do check back periodically to the forum as often as I can. What has helped you finish this disease?
Bazizzle

Golden, CO

#6 Sep 10, 2013
Rundown teacher wrote:
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Hi Fred, question for you. Boosting my immune system has done wonders not to mention swimming this summer. Been doing lots of research regarding Lyme, Morgs, etc. am taking nutrasilver and haven't had anything come out of my skin in weeks. Clearing the skin surface. Now I have to go after what's under the skin, scalp, hands and feet as I still feel the biting and movement down deep. Bottom line, whether it's a mite, Lyme or morgellons, you were right about penetrating the biofilm so the immune system can do its job. My question for you is about which protocol to take. There are many different protocols as you know. Which protocol do you recommend? One Dr. Advises taking Bromelain and serrapeptase for breaking down the biofilm as I recall you were taking something different. Have you listed your protocol on the forum anywhere? Regardless of what I have, I want to get rid of this once and for all. I would love to read and compare which cocktail you are taking. I'm close but need to finish this disease off, hopefully. I do check back periodically to the forum as often as I can. What has helped you finish this disease?
Silver is toxic.

http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/TP8...

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#7 Sep 13, 2013
Bazizzle wrote:
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Silver is toxic.
http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/TP8...
Yes, it can be. The nutrasilver is broken down so that it can be taken up to 2 1/2years daily without problem. It has helped me ALOT!
FRED

Denver, CO

#8 May 31, 2014
Unfortunately there are a lot of people in this forum who have Morgellons, which is really a version of Lyme Disease, and think they have scabies.
FRED

Denver, CO

#9 May 31, 2014
You need a particular kind of silver along with other items.

http://www.lyme-morgellons.com/

Since: Dec 13

Location hidden

#11 May 31, 2014
Morgellon's is very rare. You most likely have a skin parasite, not necessarily Scabies. There are dozens of skin parasites, it is almost impossible to know what exactly you have unless your doctor is a parasite expert. It's not important to know which parasite you have, only to kill all if them and their off spring. Start by taking oral ivermectin and rubbing on topical Permethrin. This combo has been effective for many. If after two months you are still infected buy Valbazen aka the liquid form of Albendazole and take 5ml every 12 hours and you will be cured in 30 days. You stand a better chance of getting hit by lightning than you do getting Morgellons.
FRED

Denver, CO

#15 Jun 11, 2014
No Morgellons is not very rare. Since the CDC doesn't record morgellons statistics and that Morgellons is actually a manifestation of Lyme disease that is not understood or acknowledged by the CDC there is no way of knowing.

The CDC did just increase the national Lyme disease estimate by 10 x though.The driving pathogen in the Lyme disease epidemic is Bartonella and Bartonella also causes Morgellons.

So it's not as rare as you might think. Albendazole doesn't cure scabies and it won't cure the Morgellons that many people in the scabies forum have either.
FRED

Denver, CO

#16 Monday Dec 8
Here is a good write up;

http://www.tiredoflyme.com/bizarre-neurologic...

"Bizarre Neurological Sensations of Lyme Disease"

All these crawling and biting sensations that people are experiencing and attributing to parasitic or scabies infection and coming to the conclusion that their Laundry and House is full of bugs that they have to deal with is possible but highly unlikely.

When you NERVES are INFECTED you get periphreal neuropathy, Crawling and biting sensations.

If your finding fibers and specs that look like parasites to the naked eye, you need to look at them under magnification . They are most likely Morgellons debris that a trangenic bacteria made from your skin protein.

http://f1000research.com/articles/2-118/v1

"Figure 5. A "black speck" removed from the skin in Morgellons disease is red and magnified 500x."

All this fretting over the laundry really isn't needed , get a pocket microscope on ebay for about $7. 60x min.

The fibers are not parasites they are products of your skin protein , keratin is a tough protein, your toenails are made of it. the fibers are as tough as your toenails and made outa the same stuff.

The fibers could be contaigous for morgellons though because they carry the Bartonella/BLO infection that cause morgellons but you don't need to protect yourself from them because until you get your own infection down your the chia pet that is making them. When you cure your own infection the fibers in your house will be gone.

FRED

Denver, CO

#17 Wednesday Dec 10
a good post from curezone;

http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp...

Here is a picture of someone showing severe Bacillary Angiomatosis lesions. BA is caused by a Bartonella infection, Bart infects the subcutaneous layer of the skin first , epithelial and endothelial cells, then as the infection has progressed through the layers of the skin it shown unhealing bacterial lesions.

http://www.skincareguide.ca/images/glossary/b...

Just Use your search engine for "Bartonella red streaks" and see if you don't find pictures of red track marks on skin just like the ones Morgellons patients get.

Morgellons is BA with the addition of a transgenic fiber growth.

http://www.sciencellonline.com/site/productIn...

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"The epithelial layer of the skin provides an essential function as a protective barrier against insult from the outside environment. The major cell type in this layer is keratinocytes which consists around 85% of living epidermal cells. Keratinocytes are the cells of stratified squamous epithelia. It is so named because its most abundant protein is keratin."

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&#8203; http://f1000research.com/articles/2-118/v1

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&#8203;"Morgellons disease (MD) is a term that has been used in the last decade to describe filaments that can be found in human epidermis. It is the subject of considerable debate within the medical profession and is often labeled as delusions of parasitosis or dermatitis artefacta. This view is challenged by recent published scientific data put forward between 2011-2013 identifying the filaments found in MD as keratin and collagen based and furthermore associated with spirochetal infection."

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The word association is key here, an "association"

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&#8203;A study of genetics would reveal that to get something novel to grow from the skin is a form of Gene Expression, to accomplish that an adjustment of cellular DNA is required.

There are only two bacteria known to Science that can accomplish this and one of them is Agrobacterium, that is why it is used to GM the food supply, the other is Bartonella. Borrelia can not accomplish this as noted in the scientific literature.

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http://microbewiki.kenyon.edu/index.php/Barto... ;

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&#8203;"Bartonella are the only bacteria able to produce angiogenic tumors in humans, very much like the Agrobacterium species that produce tumors in plants"

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21844337

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"Conjugative DNA transfer into human cells by the VirB/VirD4 type IV secretion system of the bacterial pathogen Bartonella henselae."

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&#8203;The conclusion based on the above is that Bartonella or a Bartonella like organism has adjusted the cellular genome of the Keratinocytes causing them to produce keratin fibers.

http://www.lyme-morgellons.com
In_UK2

Spain

#18 Sunday Dec 14
Know your enemy.
I'm author of My Ivermectin Treatment Story. I'm cured after two years of Ivermectin, Moxidectin and Doxycycline. I never thought I would see another good day. I was wrong.

I too thought Morgellons, and under a microscope I saw twisted red strings of blue and red. These were egg strands. The black specks that came out with oil applied to hand were tangled dark purple strings under 100x microscope power -- classic example of immature worm larva diagnosed from the Internet and then confirmed by the University. Cello tape on the activity area produced classic purple worms, also under 100x microscope power. These had the oval opening in the side also researched from the Internet.

Know your enemy. Take samples and view them under a microscope using oil for black specks and cello tape on activity areas in the evening. You may eventually discover a worm parasite like me. I suspect other Morgellon horror stories could also be caused by worms.

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