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Sam

Tuolumne, CA

#1 Jan 16, 2007
This discussion is for the treatment of your pets.
fuLL of HOPE frances

Corpus Christi, TX

#2 Jan 16, 2007
theres also one that has been started for cats already as well...good info on that one for cat owners...
Been There

San Diego, CA

#3 Jan 16, 2007
Listing of toxic pet products that treat parasites.

http://www.nrdc.org/health/effects/pets/execs...
Been There

San Diego, CA

#4 Jan 16, 2007
Spot-on topical treatments:

A study was performed in South Africa to compare the efficacy of Advocate with that of a positive control (selamectin, applied as a spot on) against severe natural infestations of Sarcoptes scabiei var. canis

ADVOCATE(midacloprid, Moxidectin)

AND

REVOLUTION(selamectin)

ADVOCATE IS NOT AVAILIBLE IN THE U.S. it's sold in Australia.

ADVOCATE, also called ADVANTAGE MULTI in New Zealand and Canada

ADVANTAGE MULTI
http://www.animalhealth.bayerhealthcare.com/4...

http://www.advocate-spot-on.com/Mange_Mites.1...
Been There

United States

#5 Jan 17, 2007
Another Link on Advocate spot-on treatment for Sarcoptic mange in dogs.
http://www.bayeranimal.com/pdf/label/Advocate ...
Mary

United States

#6 Jan 22, 2007
Been There. Have you heard of moxidectin? I think it is one of the ingredients of advocate. I was reading about it, and found that some bird breaders are finding that they have to use more and more ivermectin to treat their bird mites. It is a breathing disorder where the mites go into the beak and lungs and bronchial. They are using moxidectin to cure their birds and it works very fast. I think slomo wrote something brief about it a while back. What do you think? They stated that fatalities are occuring in using too much ivermectin on the birds.
Mary

United States

#7 Jan 22, 2007
oops, i forgot to post the link.

http://healthybird.net/Air%20Sac%20Mites.htm
Mary

United States

#8 Jan 22, 2007
At the bottom of this article, they say you can treat the rabbit with moxidectin for sarcops.

http://www.mybunny.org/info/mites.pdf

they say that there have been some problems with giving by subcutaneous injection.
Just a thought

Kinston, NC

#9 Jan 23, 2007
what about useing powder sulfur which is inexpensive in some mineral oil? This will not hurt you pet and should kill out the scabies mite and the mange mite.
Mary

United States

#10 Jan 23, 2007
Is there anything I can put on the dogs, to keep their skin from being so dry. I have been bathing them a lot with Adams Flea Shampoo and I have also given them Lym-Sulfur Dips. I am reading that the mites like dry skin, so I have been moistering my skin. But, what about the dogs? Normally, you should only bath your dog once every 3 weeks, but they are getting bathed, etc. even more often than once a week.
Fed Up

AOL

#11 Jan 23, 2007
Derma caps. You can order them through Jeffers or your local vet should carry them. That's what I used on mine when they had the scales.
Fed Up

AOL

#12 Jan 24, 2007
Happy Jack sell's a sarcoptic spray for dog's. With 28% BB in it. That's all the ingredients that's in it just the BB. Has anyone ever tried it?????
Mary

United States

#13 Jan 25, 2007
Another article on the use of moxidectin.

http://www.equinechronicle.com/Features/Thoma...
Sam

Tuolumne, CA

#14 Jan 25, 2007
Some people have included links to the safe2use site and postings there. while it is no longer an active site, you can still read many of the postings.

I'm including this information here because some of you that have pets are having a really difficult time getting rid of this. Some of the posters on that site also had pet mites. Critterlady in particular had animal mites and human scabies. She fought a long hard battle for 2 years and was able to finally resolve it, so she might have some relevant info for you in her postings.
Been There

United States

#15 Jan 25, 2007
Mary wrote:
At the bottom of this article, they say you can treat the rabbit with moxidectin for sarcops.
http://www.mybunny.org/info/mites.pdf
they say that there have been some problems with giving by subcutaneous injection.
Just says secondary effects when Moxidectin injected SQ. Don't say what they are, probably not too harmfull.

Interesting info on sarcoptes:

1.BB every 5th day to treat wounds.

2.Can infest dogs, cats and humans.

3.Borac Acid to treat carpets.

4.Don't steam clean or shampoo carpets, may make invironment more humid and increase mite problem.

5.Mite can survive for weeks off a host.

Gee I wonder if I'm dealing with Bunny mites? It's a toss up between bunny, rat or human scabies. I was leaning toward rat or human but with all the wild bunnies around here maybe that's it. Really doesn't matter because it's the same treatment, just more agressive.

I'm going to get some boric acid for the carpets. Still waiting for that expensive BB to arrive.....
Been There

United States

#16 Jan 25, 2007
Mary wrote:
Is there anything I can put on the dogs, to keep their skin from being so dry. I have been bathing them a lot with Adams Flea Shampoo and I have also given them Lym-Sulfur Dips. I am reading that the mites like dry skin, so I have been moistering my skin. But, what about the dogs? Normally, you should only bath your dog once every 3 weeks, but they are getting bathed, etc. even more often than once a week.
I use a tablespoon of Missing Link Canine and a capsule of flaxseed oil mixed in my dogs food every day. I purchased some Wild Alaskan Salman oil from Jeffers but the dog won't touch it. He loves Missing Link and will eat the flaxseed oil caps in his food.
Been There

United States

#17 Jan 25, 2007
Mary wrote:
Been There. Have you heard of moxidectin? I think it is one of the ingredients of advocate. I was reading about it, and found that some bird breaders are finding that they have to use more and more ivermectin to treat their bird mites. It is a breathing disorder where the mites go into the beak and lungs and bronchial. They are using moxidectin to cure their birds and it works very fast. I think slomo wrote something brief about it a while back. What do you think? They stated that fatalities are occuring in using too much ivermectin on the birds.
Advocate or Advantage Multi both contain

Imidacloprid, Moxidectin
and all this info is found on the link I posted.
Advocate for cats contains 10% imidacloprid and 1.0% moxidectin Advocate for dogs contains 10% imidacloprid and 2.5% moxidectin.
For cats: The recommended minimum doses are 10 mg/kg bodyweight imidacloprid and 1.0 mg/kg bodyweight moxidectin, equivalent to 0.1ml/kg bodyweight Advocate for cats. The treatment schedule should be based on the local epidemiological situation. <= 4 kg:Advocate for small cats; 0.4 ml; Imidiacloprid minimum of 10mg/kg bw; Moxidectin minimum of 1 mg/kg bw > 4 - 8 kg Advocate for large cats; 0.8ml;10 - 20 mg/kg bw; Moxicectin 1 - 2 mg/kg bw > 8 kg the appropriate combination of pipettes For dogs: The recommended minimum doses are 10 mg/kg bodyweight imidacloprid and 2.5 mg/kg bodyweight moxidectin, equivalent to 0.1ml/kg bodyweight Advocate for dogs. The treatment schedule should be based on the local epidemiological situation. <= 4 kg Advocate for small dogs; 0.4ml; minimum of 10 mg/kg bw; minimum of 2.5mg/kg bw > 4 10 kg Advocate for medium dogs; 1.0ml; 10 - 25 mg/kg bw; 2.5 - 6.25 mg/kg bw > 10 25 kg Advocate for large dogs; 2.5ml; 10 - 25 mg/kg bw; 2.5 6.25 mg/kg bw > 25 40 kg Advocate for extra-large dogs; 4.0ml; 10 - 16 mg/kg bw; 2.5 - 4mg/kg bw > 40 kg the appropriate combination of pipettes
Avon

Four Oaks, NC

#18 Jan 26, 2007
Avon skin so soft bath oil is a good thing to rinse your done in.
Been There

Escondido, CA

#19 Jan 26, 2007
Treatment of canine scabies with milbemycin oxime.

Try this for Full Text or try second link then clink on full text.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fc...

Abstract

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerende...

W H Miller, Jr, C de Jaham, D W Scott, S M Cayatte, M S Bagladi, and R G Buerger

Department of Clinical Sciences, College of Veterinary Medicine, Cornell University, Ithaca, New York 14853, USA.
Been There

United States

#20 Jan 26, 2007
Fipronil is the ingredient in Frontline spot-on, Frontline Spray, Top Spot, Regent, Termidor

Fipronil under the trade name Frontline or Top Spot is also used to control fleas, ticks and mites on domestic animals(21 22) and as a pour-on or dip for cattle to control ticks(23). In the UK, provisional approval for five years has been granted for fipronil use as a public hygiene insecticide(24).

Fipronil is neurotoxic in both rats and dogs as shown in the acute and sub-chronic screening in the rat, developmental neurotoxicity and chronic carcinogenicity studies in the rat and in two chronic dog studies(38).
There has been a low incidence of severe skin reactions to Frontline Spray treatment, Top Spot for Cats and Top Spot for Dogs, mostly resulting in skin irritation and/or hair loss at the site of application. There is some suggestion that dogs are more severely affected than cats(39).

http://www.pan-uk.org/pestnews/actives/fipron...

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