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nursing mom

Erie, PA

#1 Sep 30, 2008
Does anyone know how long ivermectin stays in your system? I plan on taking it for 5 weeks and will be supplementing my baby with formula during this time. Just want to know how long i need to wait until i can safely nurse her again?
nursing mom

Erie, PA

#2 Oct 4, 2008
I read an article on a Morgellons website that says that using Ivermectin for more than two doses could cause death of brain cells.(brain holes)
http://www.morgellons-research.org/morgellons...

Has anyone had any negative effects after using long term ivermectin??
Welty

AOL

#3 Oct 6, 2008
For cattle there is a seven day milk withdrawel period for Iver, it would be an LOL, but this is so moving, and I feel for you so deeply, so I hope this factoid helps you. But also, I hope you do use a full body topical also at least twice maybe five days apart, as soon as you can. Or maybe you have done that. Also, Iver will deplete your intestinal bacteria just like an antibiotic, so do eat yogurt to replace your intestinal bacteria. Eat any flavor you want at least once a week. Watch baby for any bumps, and if there is diaper rash, take her for a scraping if it looks suspicious. These scrapings aren't too bad. Desitin or similar ointments probably helps suffocate the mites, so use plenty. Let us know how you are doing. P.S. I would not believe that Morgellons people know S____ about Ivermectin. The PDR, the Physician's Desk Reference, the drug bible of the MD, does not mention this "little" side effect, and that drug has been around for fifty years. By now they'd have notice this one. Morgellons people didn't use to be this way, I'm sure, but unsolved scabies, or post fungal problems or whatever is actually making them itch is causing a lot of mental misery and they can't believe it's not the threads they see. I've seen threads in my skin too - many. They stick on our skins because we are not nudists. They can go into the skin if we rub them in. But I've also seen a mite. I know it's what caused my problems. It's a real problem they have, too, but not threads.
Welty

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#4 Oct 6, 2008
I do have sympathy for Morgellon's sufferers, because they don't even have a real diagnosis. I really have seen threads in my skin. I just don't believe they caused my problem. Scabicides and Iver have cured me, Knocking on wood, but it's been many weeks now, but it was a good six week plan, an entire life cyle. I think it would have been sooner if my cat had gotten the right treatment at the beginning.
nursing mom

Erie, PA

#5 Oct 6, 2008
Welty wrote:
I do have sympathy for Morgellon's sufferers, because they don't even have a real diagnosis. I really have seen threads in my skin. I just don't believe they caused my problem. Scabicides and Iver have cured me, Knocking on wood, but it's been many weeks now, but it was a good six week plan, an entire life cyle. I think it would have been sooner if my cat had gotten the right treatment at the beginning.
What exactly was your "plan of execution"? lol
Just wondering what you did environmentally, and how you took the iver? Also did you see Sams response to my MSM question? He states that sulfer has killed babies. I dont think i believe that, but just to make sure i want to ask. I want to treat the baby with MSM powder. I am planning on using it at a 1/12 ratio. What do you think?
ivermectin assistance

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#6 Oct 6, 2008
I did the iver (two treatments a week apart) side effects 2nd time were a really icy burn in my neck area and kind of scaly rash. Also had some throat swelling that almost made me call the EMS. I dont think I can take anymore.

First time I did fine, second time I had the reaction.

Since: Aug 08

Wellington, New Zealand

#7 Oct 6, 2008
Hi Welty, I've just been to a derm. Finally got someone to believe that the mites are 'on' and not just 'in' my head. I've been prescribed 2 doses of iver, to be taken 10 days apart, but no other instructions.
I believe there are various ways to enhance the effectiveness of the ivermectin. Grapefruit.? Topicals ? Etc ......
Would be good to know your 6 week plan. Rather than asking you to repeat yourself, I'd be HUGELY grateful if you could just direct me to this information. Thanks.
Mite Killer

United States

#8 Oct 6, 2008
Hi amybelle, ivermectin taken orally will enhance it's effectiveness when taken with a high fat meal. It's best to use a topical along with or inbetween doses of ivermectin to kill the immature mites that ivermectin won't kill.

Glad you found a MD to believe you and RX the ivermectin.
nursing mom

Erie, PA

#9 Oct 6, 2008
Congrats on your cure Welty!! Thanks for sticking around to help!!

Since: Aug 08

Wellington, New Zealand

#10 Oct 6, 2008
nursing mom wrote:
Congrats on your cure Welty!! Thanks for sticking around to help!!
Ditto from me Welty, Amybelle.

Since: Aug 08

Wellington, New Zealand

#11 Oct 6, 2008
Oops, it was actually Mite Killer who replied to my my post. So, thanks MK. And thank goodness for the help that you both give. You're helping to save our sanity !
Welty

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#12 Oct 9, 2008
Nursing Mom, It is still too early for me to think I am cured. I'd think I was - if Janet or MK were cured, heavy Iver users. I wonder some if Iver only makes the mites hibernate. I really believe in topicals like Perm (MAXIMUM time) or Eurax(max time) 2X, five days apart. or Sulfer. MSM won't hurt a baby, but it is a form of sulfer that won't kill mites either. Sigh. Nobody on this website seems to have ever been cured with MSM, and that is my experience also, it has an anti-inflamatory quality that helps itching temporarily, but is not at all effective for mite killing. Sublimed sulfer, OTC from a drugstore, a powder, mixed with nine parts vasoline is what kills mites. This is what MD's prescribe. The baby formula might be about 5%. Don't waste time with MSM. Google Baby and Me and Topix all together to get a sure cure for a mom and a baby. She's cured, her baby is cured. With Petroleum jelly and sublimed sulfer. You can get this compounded for you, with your Doc's prescription, or make it at home. If I'd had a second dose of Perm before I wasted three months to believing I had bird mites, I believe it would have cured me right away. Also, I wish I'd used it for the max time. Eight is not enough - hours. In fact I used it for 24 the next time, washed it off and spot treated (with perm dabs) anything that was left for an additional 24 hours. That might be why I might be cured. Still wary. If you just got diagnosed, you should go this route. Most people on this site didn't get it in time. Including me. Two times is the charm. It took me six months to gain back the ground I lost. Do not waste time on health food store remedies like Tea Tree or MSM. That's my opinion.
Welty

AOL

#13 Oct 9, 2008
I mean the Eurax would be three days in a row with out showering, then a week later, three more days. Eurax is slower than Perm, but Sam had really good luck with it. I really don't know about Iver. It seems to stop them, completely, but then they seem to come back in a few weeks. Are they just hibernating? I can't believe that MK and Janet are not cured after months of Iver and I am not counting on this. I think Iver may only buy some time if used alone - it only kills adults and there is so much chance of reinfestation. I really think the topicals are more of sure thing, killing juniors and adults both. Topically the Iver seems to nip a new bump in the bud, but I really worry about the Iver only treatment plan. It's not a sure deal. It's easy, but I say try the topical route especially if you're new. It does work if you take an aggessive approach. I did take Iver for six weeks. But I don't know again, if the mites can stop and then start back up, because of other posters experience. If MK and Janet haven't shaken these with the amount of Iver they've taken then I wonder. Perm has cured countless people. If you're not allergic to chrysanthumums then you won't get a rash. It didn't bother my skin at all.(Save your milk for two days for this) for bottles. What a time for this, huh? But if early, then you will beat this.
Mite Killer

United States

#14 Oct 9, 2008
It's not that Ivermectin doesn't cure scabies, it does. There have been times when I only used Ivermectin and no topicals because the topicals were making me feel ill. With Ivermectin, eventually all the mites will die if it's used to treat the mite's entire life cycle and no mites remain in the environment longer then treatments. For me, it's reinfestation, not treatment failure.

Ivermectin does not nip a new bump in the bud if the new bumps are caused by immature mites that are not effected by Ivermectin. Using a topical with the Ivermectin is a faster cure because the immature mites are killed too. I wish a med killed the eggs.

I found a burrow so a female had time to lay some eggs on me before i realized I was reinfested. Eggs hatched and thus I have tracks of bumps caused by immature mites.. they are dying after they hatch but the slow kill allows them to wonder for a bit and get a taste of the scabicide before they die. If more eggs hatch, I'll get more bumps. I just have to keep treating.
Mite Killer

United States

#15 Oct 9, 2008
Do you see the video of the sarcoptic mite walking on the skin's surface? The mite stopped often to break into the skin and then moved on. If the mite is long gone from the bump, ivermectin would have nothing to do with a bumps healing. But I see what your saying...if Ivermectin killed a mite in the bump or moulting pouch, that bump would begin to heal.
nursing mom

Erie, PA

#16 Oct 9, 2008
I have been infected for three months. I dont have a diagnosis, it might be bird mites. I dont have a rash or bumps, i just feel them. I have ordered perm and ivermectin to treat me and my family. I will get the sulfer to treat my baby and i will look up the baby and me threads. I dont have health insurance and i dont have the money to go to the doctor and buy meds. i will have to mix my own. Thanks for all of your help. And i hope you have found your cure.
nursing mom

Erie, PA

#17 Oct 9, 2008
BTW mite killer they have been having good results with dehumidifiers on the bird mites forum, i am looking into getting one. The theory is that dust mites cant live below 50% humidity, so if this is true for dyst mites it may be true for all mites. One person found a cure this way, he only had the mites environmentally though. Also a veteran bird mite infectee has been having good results with using ant traps. They have phermones to attract ants, and seem to work on mites too....good luck and thank you. Will keep posted...
Mite Killer

United States

#18 Oct 9, 2008
nursing mom,
Thank you for the help. Like dust mites, Sarcoptic mites thrive in humidity. I haven't been able to afford a dehumidifier $200? but I want to buy one. I've used the chemical products and they have picked up lots of water...so I know my environment is humid. I can afford ant traps, it's worth a try and it wouldn't hurt!

Could it be dust mites that are causing the feelings on your skin without the visual symptoms? That has got to be very frustrating.
Mite Killer

United States

#19 Oct 9, 2008
Welty,

Thank you for your replys and concern. I've been out of permethrin for a long time. I put the Ivermectin, BB and Lindane away for about 6 months but it's back out now. I was using sulfur to spot treat, can't use it too much, I broke out in a bad rash. I'm using the Humco mixed in body soap, shampoo and conditioner. I also mix it in my dogs shampoo. Do you think the LymSulfur dip would be better than using the Humco? And where do you buy it?

Eurax isn't very effective and didn't work for me. I'm looking for something that kills the mites within a few minutes of using the med.Good Luck with that!!!!!!!!
nursing mom

Erie, PA

#20 Oct 9, 2008
Mite Killer wrote:
nursing mom,
Thank you for the help. Like dust mites, Sarcoptic mites thrive in humidity. I haven't been able to afford a dehumidifier $200? but I want to buy one. I've used the chemical products and they have picked up lots of water...so I know my environment is humid. I can afford ant traps, it's worth a try and it wouldn't hurt!
Could it be dust mites that are causing the feelings on your skin without the visual symptoms? That has got to be very frustrating.
My mother who infected me has mites that fly around her, and she has the bite marks. You cant see them unless she is in just the right lighting. Mine havent done that, but i caught it early. Im not sure what it is, but im going to fight it. You can find dehumidifiers on craigslist for cheap. They also have one at Lowes for $150. I think thats the one im going to get because nobody has any listed on craigslist around here.

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