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Jan 22, 2007
 
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Jan 22, 2007
 
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Infested London,
I have been itching since August. My regular Doc gave me Prythrime (sp)lotion. I used it three times. I still itch but not as intensely as I use to. I went to new Dermatologist today....for testing and I was want some Ivermectin this time to stop the itching.
He said I don't have active Scabies but some type of enzyme itch. This was a good article to read. I believe I am on my way to recovery. I have an extra tube of lotion but after reading the article I am not going to use it but it is comforting to know I can use it if needed. Thanks for sharing the website. I feel I hope now after such a long time.
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Miserable in SA:
How does the doctor know you don't have active Scabies? Did he do a scraping to find the mites? What is an "enzyme itch"?? Are you feeling bites?
What type of Testing did he do?
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Infested London,
I have been itching since August. My regular Doc gave me Prythrime (sp)lotion. I used it three times. I still itch but not as intensely as I use to. I went to new Dermatologist today....for testing and I was want some Ivermectin this time to stop the itching.
He said I don't have active Scabies but some type of enzyme itch. This was a good article to read. I believe I am on my way to recovery. I have an extra tube of lotion but after reading the article I am not going to use it but it is comforting to know I can use it if needed. Thanks for sharing the website. I feel I hope now after such a long time.

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Jan 23, 2007
 
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Infested London,
I have been itching since August. My regular Doc gave me Prythrime (sp)lotion. I used it three times. I still itch but not as intensely as I use to. I went to new Dermatologist today....for testing and I was want some Ivermectin this time to stop the itching.
He said I don't have active Scabies but some type of enzyme itch. This was a good article to read. I believe I am on my way to recovery. I have an extra tube of lotion but after reading the article I am not going to use it but it is comforting to know I can use it if needed. Thanks for sharing the website. I feel I hope now after such a long time.
Miserable in SA. hang in there!
its 3 weeks since my treatment. last 2 days i have been itching more than in the last week. but today i am a lot better. i have lots of dry patches like exema, i use hydrocortisone on those. i have sensitive skin and the 2 treatments with Malathion really wrecked my skin. still occassionally come up with a few small spots but they fade fast. last time i itched i checked out my skin with this microscope thing i got especially. when i didnt find anything my mind stopped working overtime and the itching actually eased.
as long as u dont suspect new burrows,(in my case i think they burrowed in large watery spots which then crusted over), try to ease the itch and fingers crossed with time everythings gonna be ok. good luck.

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Jan 23, 2007
 
Miserable in SA wrote:
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Infested London,
I have been itching since August. My regular Doc gave me Prythrime (sp)lotion. I used it three times. I still itch but not as intensely as I use to. I went to new Dermatologist today....for testing and I was want some Ivermectin this time to stop the itching.
He said I don't have active Scabies but some type of enzyme itch. This was a good article to read. I believe I am on my way to recovery. I have an extra tube of lotion but after reading the article I am not going to use it but it is comforting to know I can use it if needed. Thanks for sharing the website. I feel I hope now after such a long time.
yes that link is the last thing i read about scabies. and now i will NOT look at another bit of info lol i like to live in hope. and anyway every time i check out a scabies site i itch more.
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Jan 23, 2007
 
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yes that link is the last thing i read about scabies. and now i will NOT look at another bit of info lol i like to live in hope. and anyway every time i check out a scabies site i itch more.
InfestedLondon,
Thanks for sharing. I too itch worse after reading up again & again on scabies but I rather know what am up against. I am not feeling too terrific tonight....itching but I am taking some benedril & getting some sleep.Tommorrow will be a better day for everyone.
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Jan 23, 2007
 
Mary wrote:
Miserable in SA:
How does the doctor know you don't have active Scabies? Did he do a scraping to find the mites? What is an "enzyme itch"?? Are you feeling bites?
What type of Testing did he do?
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You do have point. He check my arms for burrows and could not find any. He gave me some lotion called Sarna (over the counter) and scrip for Netarax to take. I am going to tuff it out. I don't feel better in two week >>>>>I will go again to another Doctor. Keep your fingers crossed for me.
Sleepy, Itchy & miserable in SA
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Jan 23, 2007
 
Miserable, hope you are right and it's post scabies (or post treatment) for you and that you're clear of the beast. Hard to type with fingers crossed, but they are crossed for you.

Couple of points about Jenny's post listed in the above link. Jenny on the safe2use board cured her scabies with only 7 days straight of sulfur. All over including hair. I don't remember if she mixed her own or used the Pomada de Azufure from Walmart.

That said, I don't think she has the experience to post that "pin pricks are caused by ivermectin" because she never used ivermectin. In my experience, pin pricks are caused by the scabies mite burrowing. She didn't use permethrin either.

Also in my experience doctors have a difficult time understanding that although you used the medications correctly, you can still have active scabies. For whatever reason.

On the other hand, some people have reported that they thought they had active scabies, when they stopped treatment, the symptoms eventually faded and they are clear.

Just wanted to post that there are 2 sides to this story - and I do hope you are clear, Miserable in SA, but you're on a good road realizing that if it's not continuing to improve in 2 weeks, it's time to go back to the doctor.

If Netarax is anything like Atarax, it definitely helped to knock me out so I could get some sleep. Felt really groggy in the am though, so take it early.

What is "enzyme itch"?
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Miserable, hope you are right and it's post scabies (or post treatment) for you and that you're clear of the beast. Hard to type with fingers crossed, but they are crossed for you.
Couple of points about Jenny's post listed in the above link. Jenny on the safe2use board cured her scabies with only 7 days straight of sulfur. All over including hair. I don't remember if she mixed her own or used the Pomada de Azufure from Walmart.
That said, I don't think she has the experience to post that "pin pricks are caused by ivermectin" because she never used ivermectin. In my experience, pin pricks are caused by the scabies mite burrowing. She didn't use permethrin either.
Also in my experience doctors have a difficult time understanding that although you used the medications correctly, you can still have active scabies. For whatever reason.
On the other hand, some people have reported that they thought they had active scabies, when they stopped treatment, the symptoms eventually faded and they are clear.
Just wanted to post that there are 2 sides to this story - and I do hope you are clear, Miserable in SA, but you're on a good road realizing that if it's not continuing to improve in 2 weeks, it's time to go back to the doctor.
If Netarax is anything like Atarax, it definitely helped to knock me out so I could get some sleep. Felt really groggy in the am though, so take it early.
What is "enzyme itch"?
Sam & Mary,
An enzyme itch is me typing after midnight & making a
spelling error. Sorry! It's Eczema itch.
Intense itching of skin. The Nerve fibers transmit the itching sensation & often appear to exist within the skin. Eventually causing blisters, crusting, skin tears and other nasty stuff. This link indicated that sometimes Scabies is diagnosed but it's Eczema itch. Apparently,your skin become vulnerable to alot of things. It's seem like a catch diagnosis but I am willing to try anything to kick this thing.
http://www.familydoctor.co.uk/htdocs/eczema/e...
I have learned alot about how to protect yourself (skin) by reading the scabie threads. Thank you everyone.It's been very reasuring to know that it's not in my mind.Sadly that others have experienced this too.
Thanks for writing..........and bless you.
Miserable.

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Feb 8, 2007
 
its been a while since i visited. how is every1. Miserable how are you? im still itchy at times and my skin is sensitive but dont need the hydrocortisone since i have been moisturising my skin well. fingers crossed it doesnt come back.
Miserable in SA wrote:
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Sam & Mary,
An enzyme itch is me typing after midnight & making a
spelling error. Sorry! It's Eczema itch.
Intense itching of skin. The Nerve fibers transmit the itching sensation & often appear to exist within the skin. Eventually causing blisters, crusting, skin tears and other nasty stuff. This link indicated that sometimes Scabies is diagnosed but it's Eczema itch. Apparently,your skin become vulnerable to alot of things. It's seem like a catch diagnosis but I am willing to try anything to kick this thing.
http://www.familydoctor.co.uk/htdocs/eczema/e...
I have learned alot about how to protect yourself (skin) by reading the scabie threads. Thank you everyone.It's been very reasuring to know that it's not in my mind.Sadly that others have experienced this too.
Thanks for writing..........and bless you.
Miserable.
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Feb 8, 2007
 
Does anyone have information on "Post Nodular Scabies"......I know that it's not active scabies, but basically the scabies "leftovers" trapped under your skin and that it's common in people with sensitive skin. I would appreciate any additional information that anyone has. Also, I'm very curious to know if the amount of time you suffer with active scabies affects the amount of time you suffer through post scabies symptoms.
Thanks and best of luck to everyone...
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Hi Scabies in Georgia. No insurance? No money? Read page 5 from the Scabies is Highly Contagious Thread, and there are a couple of long posts from Scabies in FL. That's page 5. I'm not telling you to do what he says. You've had this way too long now.
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Does anyone have information on "Post Nodular Scabies"......I know that it's not active scabies, but basically the scabies "leftovers" trapped under your skin and that it's common in people with sensitive skin. I would appreciate any additional information that anyone has. Also, I'm very curious to know if the amount of time you suffer with active scabies affects the amount of time you suffer through post scabies symptoms.
Thanks and best of luck to everyone...
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Scabies In Georgia wrote:
Does anyone have information on "Post Nodular Scabies"......I know that it's not active scabies, but basically the scabies "leftovers" trapped under your skin and that it's common in people with sensitive skin. I would appreciate any additional information that anyone has. Also, I'm very curious to know if the amount of time you suffer with active scabies affects the amount of time you suffer through post scabies symptoms.
Thanks and best of luck to everyone...
Ok everyone, let's pitch in here and try to give whatever you can to this person who has posted this question for many months now.

Scabies in Georgia, are you sure it's not active scabies still? If you're sure then that's a really good thing. Did you have it for a long time?

On the nodules, do they look like warts? I have a bunch of them, look like warts, and are in areas where there was an active scabies infestation for a long time. Some of them have gone down but most are still there. I think I posted this to you before, but I had one removed by a dermatologist, and examined by the lab. The report was that it did not have any scabies excrements in the sample, and they dug pretty deep. They are caused by the histamines in your body, not by an abundance of "leftover" mite material collected inside it. One doctor told me you can experience post scabies itch for 2 years, but of course I was still infected, and thought that was hogwash.

Are you getting new nodules? ok, everyone else, your turn. The problem with asking a question about post scabies, is that most people, when they are done with this nightmare, don't follow the forum anymore, which is too bad.
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Feb 8, 2007
 
Thanks Mary...Might try the Ivermectin, I've read where you can find it at a feed store; trying to find out dosage.... If anyone has successfully used this product, I would appreciate advice on dosage. I know that no one is a doctor, but I'd appreciate the advice. BTW: Any suggestions on cleaning home, vehicle, etc. because I've read that you must clean these things and I thought I had properly done so when I treated 6 months ago. Thank you everyone and good luck.
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Sam. I was looking at my skin through the 30x jewelers loupe, and I was seeing a bunch of little things that looked like warts. I was wondering what they were. Are those post scabies, something or other, from when there was a burrow there at one time?
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Ok everyone, let's pitch in here and try to give whatever you can to this person who has posted this question for many months now.
Scabies in Georgia, are you sure it's not active scabies still? If you're sure then that's a really good thing. Did you have it for a long time?
On the nodules, do they look like warts? I have a bunch of them, look like warts, and are in areas where there was an active scabies infestation for a long time. Some of them have gone down but most are still there. I think I posted this to you before, but I had one removed by a dermatologist, and examined by the lab. The report was that it did not have any scabies excrements in the sample, and they dug pretty deep. They are caused by the histamines in your body, not by an abundance of "leftover" mite material collected inside it. One doctor told me you can experience post scabies itch for 2 years, but of course I was still infected, and thought that was hogwash.
Are you getting new nodules? ok, everyone else, your turn. The problem with asking a question about post scabies, is that most people, when they are done with this nightmare, don't follow the forum anymore, which is too bad.
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Mary wrote:
Sam. I was looking at my skin through the 30x jewelers loupe, and I was seeing a bunch of little things that looked like warts. I was wondering what they were. Are those post scabies, something or other, from when there was a burrow there at one time?
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Mary, Good question, I don't know the answer. My nodules are large, don't need a scope for them. That's why the doctor wanted to send one to the lab, but it came back not viral in composition, meaning it wasn't a wart. Maybe we all have little things like yours and don't even know it? Do you still see little black dots in your skin? I still see them where I have an itchy spot, although fewer and fewer. Still in my nails and I'm treating them daily because I think that's part of the problem why I still keep getting reinfected.
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Scabies In Georgia wrote:
Does anyone have information on "Post Nodular Scabies"......I know that it's not active scabies, but basically the scabies "leftovers" trapped under your skin and that it's common in people with sensitive skin. I would appreciate any additional information that anyone has. Also, I'm very curious to know if the amount of time you suffer with active scabies affects the amount of time you suffer through post scabies symptoms.
Thanks and best of luck to everyone...
Well, lets see what we can do to help.

Ok, I've been at this since May of 2006. I've been told I had post scabies by an MD but was still infested. Finally a PA physician's ass.(sorry couldn't help myself) told me New Bumps mean active mites. If after a few days of just old bumps healing, you find new bumps, I'd say still infested.

On the other hand maybe you have really killed all the mites but your body's reaction takes a few hours or a day to show up as a bump.

If you find a new burrow, your screwed.

To add to what Sam had to say about the wartlike bump. Right when I realized I had scabies, I started to scratch at a wart like growth on my wrist. I cut it off myself and it never come back. I think it was a little crusted scabies. I also had crusts on my feet. Wish I had put that warty thing under the microscope.

Georgia, Don't you get some free medical through the college? Any vet students or vet tech students you could talk to? Stromectol (ivermectin) is the bomb, especially when used in combination mainstream topicals, invironment and personal cleaning measures.

I'm using the horse paste but of course we all know I'm one crazy fox.
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Mary, Good question, I don't know the answer. My nodules are large, don't need a scope for them. That's why the doctor wanted to send one to the lab, but it came back not viral in composition, meaning it wasn't a wart. Maybe we all have little things like yours and don't even know it? Do you still see little black dots in your skin? I still see them where I have an itchy spot, although fewer and fewer. Still in my nails and I'm treating them daily because I think that's part of the problem why I still keep getting reinfected.
Sam, are you using the horse paste around and under your nails? Wonder why they decided to colonize your nails? do you use a cuticle trimmer around the nail bed? They are such little ###$%%^%^^
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Feb 8, 2007
 
BT,

First of all I'd like to thank you for all of your work the past few weeks, in answering all of the new people's questions, and doing so much research and posting links, and sincerely trying to help everyone. I hope everyone else appreciates all the work you have done for them.

I used the horse paste in my toenails a couple of times, but with taking it orally, like I said I'm basically a chicken, and a scaredy cat too, and didn't want to absorb too much of any medicine. I use different things around my nails, BB, sulfur, oils that are SUPPOSED to kill them, and permethrin. As for cutting the cuticles, there are none to cut, because I work in an office, and don't have dry cuticles to cut.

Once I got a prescription from a doctor by showing him the pictures I took of the black dots in my nails. I think they probably got under my fingernails from all the scratching, but I can't figure out why they went into my toenails.

Do you think it would be ok to use a dab of the iver horse paste around the nails every day? All 20 nails are cut 2x week very short.
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its been a while since i visited. how is every1. Miserable how are you? im still itchy at times and my skin is sensitive but dont need the hydrocortisone since i have been moisturising my skin well. fingers crossed it doesnt come back.

Hi Infested! I did really well for about 1 week. I am still infected, itching & miserable. The good news is that itching is not as intense & I am less paranoid about it. Moisturing seem to help me thru it too. I think if I can only break this cycle it will go away. Some days I am fine & others itchy.
I go different Doc next Friday. I use to be embarrassed to discuss this with the doctor butI am on my third Doctor now... and don't have time to be embarrassed. I just want to get well & start living a full life again. Keep your fingers crossed for me. Hang in there!

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