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Hollywood had posted this on another thread but it sounds like it actually could have some potential.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19827025

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The role of quorum sensing (QS) is well known in microbial pathogenicity and antibiotic resistance. QS is responsible for motility, swarming, and biofilm production based on the signal molecules, e.g., acylated homoserine lactones (AHLs) produced by micro-organisms above certain population density. The inhibition of QS may reduce pathogenicity, antibiotic resistance and biofilm formation in systemic and local infections. The homoserine lactones and other transmitters contribute to antibiotic resistance and pathogenicity of several bacteria; consequently the inhibition of QS signals reduces the problem of resistance and virulence. Due to the increasing number of persistent non-treatable infections, there is an urgent need to develop new strategies to combat infections that destabilize bacterial communities in the host. The effect of essential oils on bacterial growth and QS were evaluated using the sensor strain Chromobacterium violaceum CV026 and N-acyl homoserine lactone (AHL) producing Escherichia coli ATTC 31298 and the grapevine colonizing Ezf 10-17 strains. Of the tested oils, rose, geranium, lavender and rosemary oils were the most potent QS inhibitors. Eucalyptus and citrus oils moderately reduced pigment production by CV026, whereas the chamomile, orange and juniper oils were ineffective."
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There is a tincture available. Apparently it will grow hair on a billiard ball too.

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/rosemary-0...

"Rosemary can be used as a tea made from the dry herb, a tincture, fluid extract, decoction for a bath, or as an essential oil mixed with other oils for topical use. Speak to your health care provider to find the right dose for your condition. Total daily intake should not exceed 4 - 6 grams of the dried herb. Do not take rosemary oil orally."

http://www.thenaturalonline.com/herb-pharm-ro...

It sounds like this could be a good strategy to add to anyone's anti-microbial protocol.Like taking away their cell phones.
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insects as vectors of infection, yes mites too;

http://sponauglewellness.com/sgt-john-russell...

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There is a tincture available.
http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/rosemary-0...
"Rosemary can be used as a tea made from the dry herb, a tincture, fluid extract, decoction for a bath, or as an essential oil mixed with other oils for topical use. Speak to your health care provider to find the right dose for your condition. Total daily intake should not exceed 4 - 6 grams of the dried herb. Do not take rosemary oil orally."

It sounds like this could be a good strategy to add to anyone's anti-microbial protocol.Like taking away their cell phones.
So if you order this please post how many drops it says on the label to take. I'm making my own tinctures, remember. lol
I'm guessing .. no more than 6 drops...daily
thanks!
and hell yes to NO cell phones!:)
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So if you order this please post how many drops it says on the label to take. I'm making my own tinctures, remember. lol
I'm guessing .. no more than 6 drops...daily
thanks!
and hell yes to NO cell phones!:)
From what I've seen the bottles say 20-40 drops but that is based on the method they use and the concentrations.

If you go look for it on the web for sale many places have the front and rear of the bottle for view. I believe it is 20-40 drops but that is open to what you are using it for too. I ordered it and am using it to inhibit the quorum sensing of pathogens. Combined with serrapetase that should be the knockout punch for biofilms.

The other one I ordered so I can double down on attacking mycoplasma is cinnamon bark extract tincture.Cinnamon bark is said to have superpower in eradicating all kinds of infections . Personally I like the tinctures better than trying to take the essential oils, they are dangerously strong. Cinnamon bark was tested against mycoplasma in the following study and found to be effective.

http://biomed.papers.upol.cz/getrevsrc.php... .

Here is a cinnamon bark tincture.

http://www.herb-pharm.com/store/product_info....

I find many of these herbal concoctions online where herbs are mixed together and i haven't seen anything that says you have to take them seperately so will be mixing the OLE tincture along with the Rosemary tincture and the cinnamon bark tincture. Thieves oil is a blend of Clove, Cinnamon, Rosemary, Lemon and some other oil I can't remember that people actually take internally mixed with olive oil. I think the tinctures are much safer to take internally though. The Samento and Banderol are instructed to be taken separately though.

Cell phones do put out bad frequencies that effect our cell health. So do cordless home phones, they use the cell phone frequencies. I got rid of my combo answering machine and phone because it was cordless. I bought a stand alone answering machine and this real cool French victorian brass antique rotary dial phone that was a basket case I'm rebuilding. I think I'll start wearing powdered wigs too.
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FRED wrote:
There is a tincture available. Apparently it will grow hair on a billiard ball too.
http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/rosemary-0...
"Rosemary can be used as a tea made from the dry herb, a tincture, fluid extract, decoction for a bath, or as an essential oil mixed with other oils for topical use. Speak to your health care provider to find the right dose for your condition. Total daily intake should not exceed 4 - 6 grams of the dried herb. Do not take rosemary oil orally."
http://www.thenaturalonline.com/herb-pharm-ro...
It sounds like this could be a good strategy to add to anyone's anti-microbial protocol.Like taking away their cell phones.
what about rose, geranium, lavender? why are you specifically concentrating on rosemary? Oh, I know, you like the smell of her hair...
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what about rose, geranium, lavender? why are you specifically concentrating on rosemary? Oh, I know, you like the smell of her hair...
To each their own.

The rosemary is a good biofilm strategy, along with serrapeptase. The cinnamon bark tincture combined with Samento and Banderol therapy would be good for the Bartonella infection you undoubtedly carry. You'll need Cryptolepis and Artemisinin for the babesia though.

http://www.frylabs.com/bartonella.php

"Generally Bartonella species are transmitted by injury, as in 'Cat Scratch disease', or by insect vectors that include mites, fleas, mosquitoes, some species of biting flies, and is believed to be transmitted by ticks as well. New species of Bartonella are continually being discovered with at least 8 or 9 species having the capacity to infect humans."
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To each their own.
The rosemary is a good biofilm strategy, along with serrapeptase. The cinnamon bark tincture combined with Samento and Banderol therapy would be good for the Bartonella infection you undoubtedly carry. You'll need Cryptolepis and Artemisinin for the babesia though.
http://www.frylabs.com/bartonella.php
"Generally Bartonella species are transmitted by injury, as in 'Cat Scratch disease', or by insect vectors that include mites, fleas, mosquitoes, some species of biting flies, and is believed to be transmitted by ticks as well. New species of Bartonella are continually being discovered with at least 8 or 9 species having the capacity to infect humans."
I don't carry bartonella and neither does my dog. You don't know. and you will never know what I have. You can't diagnose here, Missy Denver. undoubtedly. what an a** you are. I've told you many many times what happened to us. It's documented at least 15 times on this forum, or more. If you can't get that, then you are one dumb mother f***er.
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I don't carry bartonella and neither does my dog. You don't know. and you will never know what I have. You can't diagnose here, Missy Denver. undoubtedly. what an a** you are. I've told you many many times what happened to us. It's documented at least 15 times on this forum, or more. If you can't get that, then you are one dumb mother f***er.
I'm sorry I really don't pay attention to what is going on with you or your dog. That is probably because you've been so caustic and unpredictable in your behavour over the last 2 years.

You sent a private message to me a couple months ago saying you were "very infected" with mites and said you would pay me $5000 to cure you so I assumed since you had mites you have bartonella since they pretty much go hand in hand. You know you don't really have to pay someone all you have to do is take the time to read and understand the information that is on the web.

I hope in all the time you have been here that you have found some information that will give you some relief in your ongoing struggle though.

It's not important to me to know the fine details of your private life. Have a nice evening.
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I'm sorry I really don't pay attention to what is going on with you or your dog. That is probably because you've been so caustic and unpredictable in your behavour over the last 2 years.
You sent a private message to me a couple months ago saying you were "very infected" with mites and said you would pay me $5000 to cure you so I assumed since you had mites you have bartonella since they pretty much go hand in hand. You know you don't really have to pay someone all you have to do is take the time to read and understand the information that is on the web.
I hope in all the time you have been here that you have found some information that will give you some relief in your ongoing struggle though.
It's not important to me to know the fine details of your private life. Have a nice evening.
NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!

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For anyone who has had the "black specs" I know I had a lot of these at one point especially from the webs of fingers and toes.

The more rational title that they could adopt is "borrelial dermatitis".

http://f1000research.com/articles/2-118/v1

"If the disorder was not chronic, it could easily be mistaken for impetigo or other infective presentations such as staph folliculitis. Persistence for many weeks raises the differential diagnosis of scabies but this can be ruled out if careful observation shows that every wound is persistent and cycling over a 34 week period, and no mites or track marks are found."

So in my own case I had 3 skin scrapings done at about the 2 month point but they all came back negative for mites which i didn't believe mainly because the Dermatologist prescribed a psychiatric medication for me. I hadn't been really crazy up to that point and I didn't see any reason to suddenly develop that. So I lumped all the assertions of the Derm into the BS category.

BTW, "Derm" is a 4 letter word.

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From what I've seen the bottles say 20-40 drops but that is based on the method they use and the concentrations.

I find many of these herbal concoctions online where herbs are mixed together and i haven't seen anything that says you have to take them separately so will be mixing the OLE tincture along with the Rosemary tincture and the cinnamon bark tincture. Thieves oil is a blend of Clove, Cinnamon, Rosemary, Lemon and some other oil I can't remember that people actually take internally mixed with olive oil. I think the tinctures are much safer to take internally though. The Samento and Banderol are instructed to be taken separately though.
Cell phones do put out bad frequencies that effect our cell health. So do cordless home phones, they use the cell phone frequencies. I got rid of my combo answering machine and phone because it was cordless. I bought a stand alone answering machine and this real cool French victorian brass antique rotary dial phone that was a basket case I'm rebuilding. I think I'll start wearing powdered wigs too.
Lol! no to the powdered wigs.
Thanks for your response. I can see problems with some people taking essential oils orally...especially if they don't have a lot of knowledge or practice in EO's...& don't know there is a difference in essential oils and the therapeutic oils (that would be ok to take internally).
But, even with that said I would be very careful about taking them internally. I too opt for the tinctures.

you could of gone all day without talking about cordless phones! LOL
Thanks again! Have a great weekend! Try to get some rest!:)
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Lol! no to the powdered wigs.
Thanks for your response. I can see problems with some people taking essential oils orally...especially if they don't have a lot of knowledge or practice in EO's...& don't know there is a difference in essential oils and the therapeutic oils (that would be ok to take internally).
But, even with that said I would be very careful about taking them internally. I too opt for the tinctures.
you could of gone all day without talking about cordless phones! LOL
Thanks again! Have a great weekend! Try to get some rest!:)
Hey Flower power;

Actually I'm doing really good at this point. After I figured out all the infections I wanted to address then getting through about a two month herx with all kinds of different herx symptoms including, flu, pretty bad muscle and joint pain, weakness, liver and kidney pain, I believe I have killed off a lot of the associated infections or at least gotten them very low, now I'm just coasting on maintenance and feeling very "normal". From what I've read it takes about a year to get these out of the sequestered hiding places in the body. When I first took the Artemisinin my liver really hurt and I took a 5 day break then started again with an even higher dose. The second time it didn't hurt. When you have something growing in your liver and it is killed by that then the toxin release right inside your liver causes that pain. I think that is why some people couldn't handle the borax on their livers but the borax works really slow and causes other health issues too.

Too bad you couldn't send the mites that originally infected you to a lab to see what infections they were carrying.

I believe you said you were infusing your tintures, I think the other makers use some kind of press to get the goo out so it would be kinda hard to figure out the dosage. Fortunately it's really hard to get an overdose from herbal tinctures, if they are working and you are taking enough you should get at least a mild herx though.

Yes this !@#$%^&* technology.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Lol! no to the powdered wigs.
Thanks for your response. I can see problems with some people taking essential oils orally...especially if they don't have a lot of knowledge or practice in EO's...& don't know there is a difference in essential oils and the therapeutic oils (that would be ok to take internally).
But, even with that said I would be very careful about taking them internally. I too opt for the tinctures.
you could of gone all day without talking about cordless phones! LOL
Thanks again! Have a great weekend! Try to get some rest!:)
FHT, do you have any teasel where you live? It's like this sticker looking plant. A lot of different pathogens like to live in the collagen in you joints, they hide there. the teasel is said to get into these deep tissues and drive them out into the bloodstream where they can be detoxed. It is a strategy that is widely accepted in conjunction with other tinctures to make them more effective.

http://www.acupuncturetoday.com/herbcentral/t...

There is this tincture press I saw, some of them actually have a small hydraulic jack in there so they can get incredible force to squeeze out the goodies.I bet your redneck ol' man could make one outa stuff you can get at the general store...;)

http://www.herbtincturepress.com/

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The Samento and Banderol are instructed to be taken separately though.
Any idea why? I was taking those two and cumanda together.
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Any idea why? I was taking those two and cumanda together.
I know of cumanda but I think the cowden protocol is really pumped up from a business standpoint. If you watch Dr. Cowden's video all his evidence really points to Samento and there is much reinforcing evidence on the web for that. There is a synergy between the Samento and banderol as shown in this in vitro study by Dr. Eva Sapi.

http://www.publichealthalert.org/Articles/mis...

I think those two are a good base strategy but there are some things to overcome. I believe the biggest thing to overcome is intracellular infection, Mycoplasma and bartonella are small enough to be intracellular and now it is known that borriela shed their cell wall in order to penetrate our cell walls.The cell ports get clogged up with bacterial and fungal debris so it gets very difficult to get something inside the cells that will kill them. The Teasel will coax them out of the cells and all the tincures done for this purpose should be done with teasel. Olive Leaf Extract is said to be intracellular, I know Artemisinin is intracellular because it crosses the blood/brain barrier and you can taste it in your mouth 10 minutes after you take the capsule.
If you take Serrapeptase enzyme it will dissolve all the bloodstream debris so it can be processes through the liver, given time it even dissolves plaque on artery walls. The rosemary extract tincure is said to mess up the communication of the bacteria so they aren't as strong , I am yet to use this one but will be soon. The cinnamon bark extract is a super antimicrobial that also really increases circulation and that is important to get all these strategies to all the tissues.

You would have to taper up to all the finish doses and only add in one tintcure at a time as your body adjusts.

I think you'll have better success if you use different strategies and the people on the web that I've read their stories of success, they all fit that mold.

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You would have to taper up to all the finish doses and only add in one tintcure at a time as your body adjusts.
I think you'll have better success if you use different strategies and the people on the web that I've read their stories of success, they all fit that mold.
Too late... I'm already taking a dropper full twice a day of all of them. Not much point in going back and adding them in one at a time.
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Too late... I'm already taking a dropper full twice a day of all of them. Not much point in going back and adding them in one at a time.
That's pretty hard to believe that you completely disregard the dosages listed on various sites and even that you could endure the kind of herx that would generate. If it's true you would be sick as a dog. But we both know that's not the case.

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Dude. I'm a scorpio. I can endure anything.
Oh yeah, I broke out in a ridiculous rash... massive exiting of material... and I ignore fatigue.

I've done a ton of detox things - including coffee enemas, master cleanse, and my favorite - "Arise and Shine" which 20 years ago was oddly Gnostic Christian - they seem to have lost that angle now http://www.ariseandshine.com/

I used to work at an organic juice bar, read Paul Pitchford and Linda Rector Page front to back... I know people can cure themselves of Morgellons and Lyme through diet and supplements. It's just finding the right group for your particular body. I think Ayruveda and Traditional Chinese Medicine is worth looking into for people who have never tried something like this - the doctors will tweak your treatment specifically for you.

I happen to know I'm a pitta/damp heat person and I can handle these massive toxin purges... and I can handle the insane allopathic poisons that are prescribed (which I think have their place in the lexicon of healing).

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From that article about Samento and Banderol http://www.publichealthalert.org/Articles/mis...

"As it stands now, the best test for Lyme Disease still yields a 70% false negative rate."

That is LAME.

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