Borax Solution - CURE
VSS

Hollywood, FL

#1258 Mar 25, 2013
Bill wrote:
Hi Cindilu I used baby oil for 1 year straight over the top of my head to my toes , It helped but I got sick from baby oils petroleum base , after that I switched to 2 tbl coconut oil in the bath tub and soak for 5-15 mins and all crawling has stopped for 3.5 years now, something about the diluted coconut oil in water helps a lot. I had a borax bath of 1 cup borax in a warm bath for 30 mins before I did the coconut oil and rinsed and drained tub in between each application .
God bless you ,
Bill
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It's good that Bill is advising people to use Coconut Oil instead of baby oil. He is trying to let people know that baby oil contains petroleum, and that's not healthy. Coconut oil has been proven to be good for many health conditions. You can eat it and apply to skin; either way, it is not harmful.

So, Fred, we get it that you want to go further in educating us on immunity, but you have to let others post. And you can't just rate everyone clueless and crazy, just because you supposedly know more than the average poster.
FRED

Golden, CO

#1259 Mar 25, 2013
When you really understand all the working parts of bacterial infections like lyme and how they affect your body then you can begin to treat in ways that combat the infection. That will take some understanding because this isn't just simple like "kill mite with poison", the people who can't get past that kind of mentality will be left behind.
FRED

Golden, CO

#1260 Mar 25, 2013
VSS wrote:
Yes, Lotus Fan, you did tell me you used advantix, here i will post a few lines of your email to me.
On February 28, 13, lotus_fan wrote:
> I deleted all my messages and i'm not coming back. There is just to much to
> deal with on topix and I was there to make a difference but it's just too much.
> I'm involved in other things now.
>
> I don't know exactly how i got the morgs, there are a lot of vectors. It may
> have started with mites, it may have been the Advantix. When I started doing
> the Advantix about 16 months ago the long red scratches started showing up, I
> think what probably happened is that i had the morgs before I caught the mites
> and that's what tore me down so I was a good mite target.
So, Fred, I was reading your information last night on cell membranes, toxicity, biofilms, etc. and I found it interesting. It is definitely helpful for people who want to start working on their immunity. Some helpful supplements can be taken, etc. They're not actually supplements; they have another name. It's just that I can't stay optimistic when you tell me to hit myself with a hammer. lol...
Also, I am catching alot of you in lies beyond belief. I think it best to just be honest in your postings and stop the trolling and the deceptiveness. But, hell, that'll never happen. When hell freezes over, is when this forum will "get straight."
I never said I didn't use Advantix, I said I used it and it didn't help I don't know if I ever had mites , a few moths after the problem started i had 3 skin scrapings that came back negative for mites. I also did read some article about them puttin nanoparasites that attack the biological parasites in insecticedes now. Now everything is genetic engineering or nanotechnology, they are screwing everything up.

Poor tormented Florida feels that somehow her relentless mindless aggression has some kind of value on this forum, That's only in your universe , Flo. You tear me down every time I post something thoughtful and when I post something warning against the dangerous and stupid treatments that have been suggested here you join forces with the dumb ones, that's a good place for you though.
VSS

Hollywood, FL

#1261 Mar 25, 2013
Fred, you don't know who took Advantix and who didn't. You can only assume some people took it and were not cured.

I think YOU were not cured from Advantix, though, and only YOU know exactly what happened to you.

Most of the miticides/scabicides ARE POISON. With this mite, you have to treat with POISON. You can't continue to use it, though, on a long term basis.

Advantix contains permethrin and imidacloprid (See the Imidacloprid thread here on this forum).

we don't know who were cured using this. We can only post what we know works.

Many people have posted that they bought a cheap knock off of these expensive dog meds and treated with 45% permethrin diluted down to a 6% mixture by using a carrier oil, such as coconut oil, olive oil, etc.

Just because they posted this, does not mean it's true, though, as this is a troll laden forum, and a bunch of nut jobs are here making up shit as they go along.
VSS

Hollywood, FL

#1262 Mar 25, 2013
FRED wrote:
When you really understand all the working parts of bacterial infections like lyme and how they affect your body then you can begin to treat in ways that combat the infection. That will take some understanding because this isn't just simple like "kill mite with poison", the people who can't get past that kind of mentality will be left behind.
You are moving onto LYME, and that is a whole other disease process, and from reading YOUR posts, I can only assume you may have LYME, and this, my friend, will keep you busy reading and educating yourself, until you are as healthy as you can possibly get.

But, realize, you can't beat time.
Time will run your body down. age....
stress is a killer, too.
you can't do anything about TIME, but you can avoid stress.
VSS

Hollywood, FL

#1263 Mar 25, 2013
FRED wrote:
<quoted text>
I never said I didn't use Advantix, I said I used it and it didn't help I don't know if I ever had mites , a few moths after the problem started i had 3 skin scrapings that came back negative for mites. I also did read some article about them puttin nanoparasites that attack the biological parasites in insecticedes now. Now everything is genetic engineering or nanotechnology, they are screwing everything up.
Poor tormented Florida feels that somehow her relentless mindless aggression has some kind of value on this forum, That's only in your universe , Flo. You tear me down every time I post something thoughtful and when I post something warning against the dangerous and stupid treatments that have been suggested here you join forces with the dumb ones, that's a good place for you though.
I love you, too, Fred.
VSS

Hollywood, FL

#1264 Mar 25, 2013
The website you posted from concerning the "foxes," if you notice they were requesting funds from people to continue their "rescue" of these foxes. Just because they said it killed the mange on these foxes doesn't mean that it really worked. I skimmed through some web pages concerning your homeopathy bullshit, and just realized that that website was a fraud requesting money from people so they can continue with their half-baked idea of curing mange with homeopathy. It's all a scam a fraud. They wanted your MONEY HONEY.
VSS

Hollywood, FL

#1266 Mar 25, 2013
Believe it or not, I still have mites, as do my dogs and cat. It's not lyme. It is a very persistent mite, mine is extremely microscopic. It took me two years to even see it for myself. A very smart vet saw it right away and diagnosed. I have always had immunity issues, and for this, I can't cure myself or my pets. We were diagnosed. It hasn't turned into morgellons or lyme. I applaud you on your efforts to improve your health.

I say continue to post your findings. Some people actually do read it. When I have time, I read it.

Yes, it's a supermite (in my eyes). It's some type of mite that is difficult to eliminate. Bill has found a less toxic way of treating himself.

Since both Bill and I are smokers, and I don't think he will ever quit smoking, nor I, we do have immunity issues. We are both in our 50's, baby Fred. We won't change or buy a FIR sauna. Bill eats better than I do, though, and he has no fluffy cute rambunctious playful wanting love 24/7 dogs, as I do.

You, Fred, have no one around you to reinfect you. You stay isolated in your home on your computer and research until your fingers bleed. I was born with my immunity issues. I'm a mom and a grandmother. I try not to become so self-absorbed in myself that I forget about the world out there.
Gaoifandu

Los Angeles, CA

#1267 Mar 25, 2013
Bill can u run thrw all that worked for u? I see many of your posts and would like to read all in one place.

I used coconut oil but, all effects are temporary.
I miss having a life. I really thought I had no life before this mess.

It's been a year. I get anxiety attacks at the the thought I'll be like this for ever.

I don't feel these things bite only crawling.

I'm really mortally fatigued.

Spiritually in the traditional sense has evaporated along with hope. I look in the mirror and feel like it's just me. All alone, n guardian angels, no heaven above, just empty space all around.

No use praying, this mess stays regardless.

All perceive me crazy to those who've if confessed this mess to.

Ivermectin works ridding them everywhere but my scalp.

Going to go lay down and forget what I can for the night.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#1268 Mar 26, 2013
Gaoifandu wrote:
Bill can u run thrw all that worked for u? I see many of your posts and would like to read all in one place.
I used coconut oil but, all effects are temporary.
I miss having a life. I really thought I had no life before this mess.
It's been a year. I get anxiety attacks at the the thought I'll be like this for ever.
I don't feel these things bite only crawling.
I'm really mortally fatigued.
Spiritually in the traditional sense has evaporated along with hope. I look in the mirror and feel like it's just me. All alone, n guardian angels, no heaven above, just empty space all around.
No use praying, this mess stays regardless.
All perceive me crazy to those who've if confessed this mess to.
Ivermectin works ridding them everywhere but my scalp.
Going to go lay down and forget what I can for the night.
Hi I am not Bill. I know how you feel. There is a support thread. I know that lately the thread has been filled with evil trolls that want to mock individuals conditions. Why anyone who is or was actually suffering do that to others is beyond me. That being said there are still some good people on that thread. if you ever need someone to vent to please inbox me anytime.
I to have them on my scalp. I don't feel crawling all the time but my hair is falling out and I feel these pinprick every once in awhile. I have lost hope and regained it again a few times, but we need to fight theses bastards, and don't give up!!
VSS

Hollywood, FL

#1269 Mar 26, 2013
Gaoifandu wrote:
Bill can u run thrw all that worked for u? I see many of your posts and would like to read all in one place.
I used coconut oil but, all effects are temporary.
I miss having a life. I really thought I had no life before this mess.
It's been a year. I get anxiety attacks at the the thought I'll be like this for ever.
I don't feel these things bite only crawling.
I'm really mortally fatigued.
Spiritually in the traditional sense has evaporated along with hope. I look in the mirror and feel like it's just me. All alone, n guardian angels, no heaven above, just empty space all around.
No use praying, this mess stays regardless.
All perceive me crazy to those who've if confessed this mess to.
Ivermectin works ridding them everywhere but my scalp.
Going to go lay down and forget what I can for the night.
Ivermectin actually is one of the few meds that removes the mite problem on the scalp.
Some people have used a benzyl benzoate spray that contains 29% BB for their scalp. It's made for dogs. Its called Sardex made by Happy Jacks dot com.
This, along with iver should clear an infesetation of the scalp. These r just some things I have learned along the way. Always seek the advice of a professional medical doctor for dosage and treatment for scabies.
FRED

Golden, CO

#1270 Mar 26, 2013
Gaoifandu wrote:
Bill can u run thrw all that worked for u? I see many of your posts and would like to read all in one place.
I used coconut oil but, all effects are temporary.
I miss having a life. I really thought I had no life before this mess.
It's been a year. I get anxiety attacks at the the thought I'll be like this for ever.
I don't feel these things bite only crawling.
I'm really mortally fatigued.
Spiritually in the traditional sense has evaporated along with hope. I look in the mirror and feel like it's just me. All alone, n guardian angels, no heaven above, just empty space all around.
No use praying, this mess stays regardless.
All perceive me crazy to those who've if confessed this mess to.
Ivermectin works ridding them everywhere but my scalp.
Going to go lay down and forget what I can for the night.
Bill isn't cured because he doesn't have mites. He will be happy to tell you what gives him symptom relief from a disease he doesn't understand though. If you use his treatment everyday you will get some symptom relief but be no closer to a cure. Actually you will over time get worse because you are not actually treating the cause. He's been on this forum for over two years and hasn't found anything to solve the problem just to get through the day.
FRED

Golden, CO

#1271 Mar 26, 2013
Gaoifandu wrote:
Bill can u run thrw all that worked for u? I see many of your posts and would like to read all in one place.
I used coconut oil but, all effects are temporary.
I miss having a life. I really thought I had no life before this mess.
It's been a year. I get anxiety attacks at the the thought I'll be like this for ever.
I don't feel these things bite only crawling.
I'm really mortally fatigued.
Spiritually in the traditional sense has evaporated along with hope. I look in the mirror and feel like it's just me. All alone, n guardian angels, no heaven above, just empty space all around.
No use praying, this mess stays regardless.
All perceive me crazy to those who've if confessed this mess to.
Ivermectin works ridding them everywhere but my scalp.
Going to go lay down and forget what I can for the night.
Ivermectin will give you some minor temporary relief because it kills bacteria and the people who have only gotten relief from ivermectin have bacterial infections otherwise they would have gotten cured with a thorough regimen of it. It does kill scabies and when you do a lot of it as many many here have it will cure a scabies infection. The problem is the people here who tried that and it didn't work have a bacterial infection. Bacterial infections give the exact scabies symptoms.
VSS

Hollywood, FL

#1272 Mar 26, 2013
Ivermectin is not an antibiotic. It is an anti-parasitic medication. You cannot diagnose here on this forum. You have not a clue what is going on with the people on this forum.

There are many reasons why a person cannot get cured. Some of the reasons are reinfection, poor immunity, age, not using the medications and/or topicals properly, not cleaning properly, pets, kids, family, work environment. There are many factors. You can't just say that someone is not cured because they have a bacterial infection. Immunocomprised people are one of the reasons they cannot get cured.

You, Fred, may have a bacterial or viral or fungal infection going on with you, but that does not mean others here have any one of these problems.

Not all bacterial infections give the exact scabies symptoms. I have never had the same symptoms when I had a bacterial infection. All diseases have different symptoms.

MRSA does not give the same symptoms as a mite infection.

You are misleading in your statements, and it's just plain frightening that you give such blatant misleading help.

What's for lunch, Fred?
VSS

Hollywood, FL

#1273 Mar 26, 2013
FRED wrote:
<quoted text>
Bill isn't cured because he doesn't have mites. He will be happy to tell you what gives him symptom relief from a disease he doesn't understand though. If you use his treatment everyday you will get some symptom relief but be no closer to a cure. Actually you will over time get worse because you are not actually treating the cause. He's been on this forum for over two years and hasn't found anything to solve the problem just to get through the day.
Again, you don't know what Bill has. You cannot diagnose him over the net, Fred.

As a matter of fact, he is CURED.
VSS

Hollywood, FL

#1274 Mar 26, 2013
Fred, what is your problem that people are seeking help from kinder people on this forum? Does it bother you that they actually want to talk to someone who is kind and understanding? What's going on with you, Fred?

Every time someone praises Bill or RK, you have a fit. What's up with that?

I heard that everyone is now drinking raspberry smoothies and have tapped out their credit cards purchasing FIR saunas... How's that?

Since: Mar 13

Canada

#1275 Mar 26, 2013
Hi, I have read this thread for hours and I still haven't found the exact recipe. Could someone please let me know exactly what to do Please ; ). I have mule team 20 borax but I don't have the peroxide, but I need to start treatment ASAP, do I have to use the peroxide, or can I start with brax and when I get the peroxide I can add it to my regime. I've had scabies for 15 years, come and go but never fully gone, I've been trying the baths and Im not sure what I did wrong the other night but I woke up the next morning with an outbreak like I've never experienced before, for the last 2 days I've been crawling in my skin and Im about to have a nervous breakdown. PLEASE help

Since: Mar 13

Canada

#1276 Mar 26, 2013
Hi, I apologize in advance if I missed the recipe but Its really hard to sift through so many posts which are filled with so much debate. I drive tractor trailer on the highway and its quite frustrating reading a million posts on an iPhone. Also I must add that with this new outbreak, in addition to the regular pimple type sores now I also have bigger sores that resemble bee stings, they are like 1/4 round. And for the first time ever I was unable to sleep from the relentless itching. HELP ME PLEASE.......Str8upGirl are u still around?
FRED

Golden, CO

#1277 Mar 26, 2013
VSS wrote:
Ivermectin is not an antibiotic. It is an anti-parasitic medication. You cannot diagnose here on this forum. You have not a clue what is going on with the people on this forum.
There are many reasons why a person cannot get cured. Some of the reasons are reinfection, poor immunity, age, not using the medications and/or topicals properly, not cleaning properly, pets, kids, family, work environment. There are many factors. You can't just say that someone is not cured because they have a bacterial infection. Immunocomprised people are one of the reasons they cannot get cured.
You, Fred, may have a bacterial or viral or fungal infection going on with you, but that does not mean others here have any one of these problems.
Not all bacterial infections give the exact scabies symptoms. I have never had the same symptoms when I had a bacterial infection. All diseases have different symptoms.
MRSA does not give the same symptoms as a mite infection.
You are misleading in your statements, and it's just plain frightening that you give such blatant misleading help.
What's for lunch, Fred?
Ivermectin isn't an antibiotic but that doesn't mean that it doesn't also kill bacteria to some degree, after all it is a poison. You jump to a lot of conclusions and talk like you know a lot but in reality you are very stupid when it comes to health. Everyone here knows Ivermectin is antiparasitic that isn't some brilliant information, well I guess for you it is because your an idiot.

I didn't say all bacterial infections give scabies symptoms but some of them do. You will never be cured Hollywood because (1) you think your simple command of the knowledge of scabies meds that hasn't worked for you in two years is somehow enough for you to know and (2) you're too hard headed and dumb.
FRED

Golden, CO

#1278 Mar 26, 2013
SuperDave19771 wrote:
Hi, I apologize in advance if I missed the recipe but Its really hard to sift through so many posts which are filled with so much debate. I drive tractor trailer on the highway and its quite frustrating reading a million posts on an iPhone. Also I must add that with this new outbreak, in addition to the regular pimple type sores now I also have bigger sores that resemble bee stings, they are like 1/4 round. And for the first time ever I was unable to sleep from the relentless itching. HELP ME PLEASE.......Str8upGirl are u still around?
Str8up wasn't cured. She started this thread from the perspective that she was already cured AND from the perspective that she was trying it while she was writing the thread, those two can't coexist so she lied there. Also much later in the thread she admits to having a relapse, this is because she was treating something besides mites and didn't realize it.
After her post about having a relapse she hasn't posted since.

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