FRED

Denver, CO

#968 Jan 17, 2013
I didn't mean to say morgellons organism , it isn't organic , it's synthetic. So I've been calling it the morgellons growth.
FRED

Denver, CO

#969 Jan 17, 2013


You have both copper ions and zinc and aluminum ions in your body, raise the salt level and you raise to conductivity to a certain point.

After seriously listening to what people have posted here
for a long time, especially the veterans who have treated extensively, I know what they've said and I know what fits the working model. There is a section of the imidacloprid thread where a group of the vets are talking about the "long red scatches" the theory that they came up with pushed by RK was that when the mites are dying they run and release an enzyme that burns your skin. Some of these scratches were 4 inches long. That's a lot of damn' enzyme for a microscopic mite.

You won't be able to find a single entomology website or scabies website that refers to the long red scratches.

What it is is that when you kill the morgies that has made a connection under your skin you get a release of toxins in the skin and that turns red just like when you get a cut that is infected the tissue in that area
is infected and the skin turns red.
misery_in_au

Saint Marys, Australia

#970 Jan 17, 2013
thats odd- actually did have one scratch on stomach tonight- on it was a dead mite (the bird mites are larger and more visible than scabies)
FRED

Denver, CO

#971 Jan 17, 2013
misery_in_au wrote:
thats odd- actually did have one scratch on stomach tonight- on it was a dead mite (the bird mites are larger and more visible than scabies)
Get yourself an eye loupe 20x and take a close look at that "mite". The fibers wind themselves into tight little balls. Then go find an entomology website or a medical website and post it here saying that the scratch is attributed to any species of mites. The people on the imidacloprid thread that all experienced the long red scratches ,none of them said they had bird mites.

You would think these people would know;

http://birdmites.org/

How strange that these people on the morgellons forum are all experiencing the long red scratches.

http://www.morgellons-disease-research.com/Mo...

Welcome to the club.
FRED

Denver, CO

#972 Jan 17, 2013
misery_in_au wrote:
thats odd- actually did have one scratch on stomach tonight- on it was a dead mite (the bird mites are larger and more visible than scabies)
Send your samples here. I'd love to here the results, when you give us a report please include the lab sample number.

http://medent.usyd.edu.au/bedbug/about.htm

Since: Jan 13

Rouses Point, New York

#973 Jan 17, 2013
Hot damn you're on a roll today Fred.
Woo hoo, bring it on baby !!!!

Just to let you know" In Awe" , the more you hang out with Fred, the smarter you will get.

Thank you Fred. In little over month, no poisons, no tears, no lost thoughts, I do have a mind..........
FRED

Denver, CO

#974 Jan 17, 2013
cured_ not_ almost wrote:
Hot damn you're on a roll today Fred.
Woo hoo, bring it on baby !!!!
Just to let you know" In Awe" , the more you hang out with Fred, the smarter you will get.
Thank you Fred. In little over month, no poisons, no tears, no lost thoughts, I do have a mind..........
Thank you, It's amazing what kind of clarity you get when you quit poisoning yourself and take steps to get that poison out. And as time goes on with this you will actually start to get some lovely, wonderful, normal sleeping habits instead of just passing out from being mentally exhausted and waking up two hours later because you have just enough energy to be woken up by stuff "crawling on or biting" you. Sure don't miss that.
KARE

Mount Vernon, OH

#976 Jan 17, 2013
misery_in_au wrote:
I think we'd all, or most, agree that Fred is a mostly inoffensive poster here. Although I don't agree with Morgellons existing, I defend Fred's right to talk about it, especially as he does so without calling other people petty names. C4L sounds like a particular poster here who was banned from another thread a while ago. Whatever the case, c4L's speech is uncalled for and malicious.
Most interesting is a recent National Geographic Publication (which all would consider mainstream..yes?) which has recently published a special issue called Medical Mysteries. This publication includes a two-page account of Morgellons. Apparently there are finally enough people in this world reporting similar symptoms that the medical community is beginning to take it seriously. Due to all the controversy (which is hard for a lay person to understand) some researchers prefer to call the phenomena "Bio-Film." Under this rubric there are many serious researches proceeding. How many years did it take for AIDS to be recognized? Many thanks to Fred for his persistence!!!

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#977 Jan 17, 2013
All I can do is laugh...

Since: Jan 13

Rouses Point, New York

#978 Jan 17, 2013
Hahaha you maka me laugh cindilu !!!!!
I'm not Fred.......... Yet !!!!!
I'm on a journey here and if Fred can help me,
And Peace and In Awe, and everyone who wants a cure so we can live out lives again, and hopefully help others too. Then what's wrong with that? Don't you want a cure. Well do you ????
I'm going to cheer Fred on cause he is trying and if someone else steps up and takes time to find out information and post it, I'll be cheering them too. I want to get better, all of us. Don't you?
Faerie with Ooglies

Australia

#979 Jan 17, 2013
FRED ETC. ETC. ETC.
wrote:
"Send your samples here. I'd love to here the results, when you give us a report please include the lab sample number."
Narcissistic personality disorder with or without Psychopathic tendencies
Narcissistic personality disorder is a condition in which people have an inflated sense of self-importance and an extreme preoccupation with themselves.
Causes
The causes of this disorder are unknown. An overly sensitive personality and a belief developed and encouraged by one or both parents around the ages of 4 - 6, that they are different, unique, special or superior may affect the development of this disorder.
Diagnostic Criteria - Narcissism/Psychopathy
1. Exaggerates achievements and talents, an expectation of being recognised as superior without commensurate achievements.
2. Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, or beauty or ideal love.
3. Has a belief that he is special and can only be understood by other special or high status people.
4. Requires excessive admiration.
5. Has a sense of entitlement: unreasonable expectations of favourable treatment or automatic compliance with his expectations.
6. Is interpersonally exploitative, taking advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends.
7. Is lacking in empathy, unwilling to recognise or identify with feelings and needs of others.
8. Is often envious of others Or believes that others are envious of him.
9. Shows arrogant, haughty behaviours or attitudes.
Symptoms
A person with narcissistic personality disorder may:
React to criticism with rage, shame, or humiliation
Take advantage of other people to achieve his or her own goals
Have excessive feelings of self-importance
Exaggerate achievements and talents
Gather information from outside sources and present it as their own.
Be preoccupied with fantasies of success, power, beauty, intelligence, or ideal love
Have unreasonable expectations of favorable treatment
Need constant attention and admiration
Disregard the feelings of others, and have little ability to feel empathy
Have obsessive self-interest
Pursue mainly selfish goals
Signs and tests from "The Devil You Know- Looking Out for The Psycho in Your Life"
The three key things that make the internet so attractive to the Narcissist/Psychopath are:
1. The anonymity it allows: I had one client who managed twenty separate email accounts to take on twenty different online personas, which ranged from a 12 year old girl to a 70 year old grandfather.
2. The instant gratification it gives them: you can make contact with someone at the touch of a button, rather than having to go out and try to meet them in a bar or at work.
3. The accessibility it gives them: the Internet puts the psychopath/Narcissist in front of a huge volume and variety of people it would otherwise take him several lifetimes to meet.
LIfestyle Factors
- many short term living in relationships
- juvenile delinquency
- breaking legal conditions
- criminal versatility
- prone to boredom, need for stimulation
- Parasitic lifestyle
-Early behavioural problems
- Lack of Realistic long term goals
Personality Traits
-Glibness/superficial charm
-Grandiose sense of self worth
-Pathological lying
-Conning/Manipulative
-Lack of remorse or guilt
-Shallow effect
-Impulsivity
-Failure to accept responsibility for own actions.
EXPOSURE OF THE NARCISSIST QUICKLY RESULTS IN DEPRESSION AND DESPERATE ACTION ON THEIR PART TO FIND ATTENTION (SUPPLY) FROM A NEW ARENA. WITHOUT THEIR SUPPLY THEY FEEL THEY ARE WORTHLESS.
This results in many changes and moves to new friends, aquaintances, personas & web sites.
Narcissists rarely seek or complete therapy as they believe they do not need to change and their superior intellect is greater than any therapist's opinion.
Faerie with Ooglies

Australia

#980 Jan 17, 2013
Say or Do whatever you like Fred, it's up here now for Everyone to read and make up their own mind, faced with the evidence of your disorder.

Despite your disregard or disbelief, there are many many people in this world who have a very high intellect (yes, even higher than your own, no it's possible, even true)

They are therefore able to analyse and make up their own minds.

I am sure many have already developed the habit of skipping your posts.

Sad, isn't it.
FRED

Denver, CO

#982 Jan 18, 2013
cindilu wrote:
cured_not_almost = Fred
Only Fred could give himself that kind of ego sucking BJ. Stop using aliases to prop yourself up. Or you guys get a room!
You said you were rubbing Freedom 45 (advantix) on yourself evry day for a year. That is a pretty heavy neurotoxin that has some serious personalty implications.

http://www.neurotox.com/

"Neurotoxicity is a cause of brain damage. Common symptoms can include problems with memory, concentration, reaction time, sleep, thinking, language, as well as depression, confusion, personality changes, fatigue, and numbness of the hands and feet. Many types of nervous system disorders could be caused by neurotoxicity, including numerous neurologic and psychiatric disorders."

Cured not cured , It would be in the interest of this endeavor to set your location visible, so consider it if you would please.
FRED

Denver, CO

#983 Jan 18, 2013
Faerie with Ooglies wrote:
Say or Do whatever you like Fred, it's up here now for Everyone to read and make up their own mind, faced with the evidence of your disorder.
Despite your disregard or disbelief, there are many many people in this world who have a very high intellect (yes, even higher than your own, no it's possible, even true)
They are therefore able to analyse and make up their own minds.
I am sure many have already developed the habit of skipping your posts.
Sad, isn't it.
What is really sad is that as a whole global society , 98% of humans think with their ego's instead of their intellects. Just think what we could do with the worlds problems.
FRED

Denver, CO

#984 Jan 18, 2013
KARE wrote:
<quoted text>
Most interesting is a recent National Geographic Publication (which all would consider mainstream..yes?) which has recently published a special issue called Medical Mysteries. This publication includes a two-page account of Morgellons. Apparently there are finally enough people in this world reporting similar symptoms that the medical community is beginning to take it seriously. Due to all the controversy (which is hard for a lay person to understand) some researchers prefer to call the phenomena "Bio-Film." Under this rubric there are many serious researches proceeding. How many years did it take for AIDS to be recognized? Many thanks to Fred for his persistence!!!
In the U.S. the science is suppressed but there is a good amount of activity in the U.K.

Dr. Mae Wan Ho, who is brilliant by the way, was born in Hong Kong and is a citizen of the U.K. Being a elite level microbiologist she has been
involved with rebutting the genetic engineering wave since it's arrival on the scene. She wrote 10 books including "Living with the fluid genome".
Below is her study on the relationship between Agrobacterium Tumefaciens and Morgellons disease.

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/agrobacteriumAndMorge...

"Skin biopsy samples from Morgellons patients were subjected to high-stringency polymerase chain reaction (PCR) tests for genes encoded by the Agrobacterium chromosome and also for Agrobacterium virulence (vir) genes and T-DNA on its Ti plasmid. They found that “all Morgellons patients screened to date have tested positive for the presence of Agrobacterium, whereas this microorganism has not been detected in any of the samples derived from the control, healthy individuals.”

If you want to understand more about how Agrobacterium Tumefaciens alters host DNA there is this done by Steven Wynans, he can do this because there is no mention of human cell crossover or horizontal gene transfer.

http://hstalks.com/main/view_talk.php...

There is another renowned microbiologist who is the same league as Dr. Mae Wan Ho,I won't mention his name, he works in the United States and has studied the relationship between Agrobacterium Ti and morgellons.
I wrote to him and as humbly as possible offered what I knew and asked him if he could steer me in any helpful direction. His exact response to me was."We no longer work on this. I'm sorry."

KARE, Medical Doctors in many ways are just Shaman. Their science is based on Louis Pastures germ theory. The germ theory however has a flaw. They got the science wrong. This is now manifesting itself as disclaimers in drug company commercials. When they say stuff like some people have died from this medication they mean it. There are about 5% of Doctors who get it. You are using colloidal silver. The ionic silver is an atom of silver that has lost an electron. That essentially makes it magnetic to atoms with a difference of potential, or opposites attract. When this silver deposits an atomic film on your cells it closes the door on those cells ability to transfer energy, the energy they require to be healthy. Is it a coincidence that Silver usage in any usage of will result in a proportional amount of Argyria and the appearance of Cyanosis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyria

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanosis
Faerie with Ooglies

Australia

#985 Jan 18, 2013
FRED WROTE : "What is really sad is that as a whole global society , 98% of humans think with their ego's instead of their intellects. Just think what we could do with the worlds problems."

Classic Narcissism/Psychopathy Thought process = Grandiosity / Save the World / Delusions of Higher Intellect / Denial/ Dismissal of pathology in Self

DONE, DUSTED & DISPLAYED !
FRED

Denver, CO

#986 Jan 18, 2013
Faerie with Ooglies wrote:
FRED WROTE : "What is really sad is that as a whole global society , 98% of humans think with their ego's instead of their intellects. Just think what we could do with the worlds problems."
Classic Narcissism/Psychopathy Thought process = Grandiosity / Save the World / Delusions of Higher Intellect / Denial/ Dismissal of pathology in Self
DONE, DUSTED & DISPLAYED !
In the interest of substance can you present any logical arguments , and please substantiate them with credible sources, that successfully discount the established and factual science I've posted here.

You said you were cured .What gives? Just bored? I thought you had a nice life now?

http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/TQQ...

"20.8.2012 KNOW WITHOUT A DOUBT I AM CURED"
FRED

Denver, CO

#987 Jan 18, 2013
Here is a youtube video from CNN on the reality of morgellons.



The American Academy of Dermatology has a party line on this and you can not trust any dermatologist.
FRED

Denver, CO

#988 Jan 18, 2013
FRED

Denver, CO

#989 Jan 18, 2013
The cattle are getting it too because very often they are very close proximity to agriculture or are eating contaminated hay.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/5/prweb951...

http://www.naturalnews.com/036829_morgellons_...

"According to researchers at the State University of New York, "Agrobacterium represents a universal gene and protein transfer machine" (7) and hence laboratory (genetically modified) creations now have the ability to alter the DNA of humans (4). Hence, agrobacterium allows horizontal transfer of DNA and would be a likely culprit in the creation of Morgellons although other environmental factors appear to also be involved."

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/FSAopenmeeting.php

"Recent evidence confirms risk of horizontal gen transfer"

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