Borax Solution - CURE
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#1 Aug 6, 2012
I did everything on this site (and a few others) to get rid of mites. Several paasite cleanses, mega dosing wormwood/clove/black walnut hull, DE, homeopathy, perm, iverm, imid, etc.
They just kept breeding. Sure, numbers would lessen but still get crawling sensations. I was feeling very sad, praying for a miracle.
I was directed to earthclinic.com where I found Ted. His advice as written on the thread 'Mite Infetation Cures QUESTIONS' has totally given me a reason to hope. Three days ago I applied his recipe of Borax saturated with 1% hydrogen peroxide and could feel it woking well. I opted to also make a mix of castor oil with borax, tincture of wormood/black walnut hull, also added clove, peppermint, lavender, tea tree and lang ylang oils, the topped it with several eye dropper squirts of 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide ad a shot of aloe vera gel. Spread this everywhere. Felt luoious and WOKED, They cam crawling out of everywhere.(Again?!? I thought they were motly all gone by now).
Good results with his uggestion of Ted's so I found the courage two days ago and made up his recipe for an internal solution of 1/8 tsp in a liter of water (sipped throughout the day, best after meals). Wow. Any crawling sensation in the padt two days has been halted in its tracks. I can feel intuitively they are dead.
My life light is now burning again. I'm so grateful and wanted to share this experience with you guys.
Do read his info - he's awesome!
Other notes- I'm also on the foodgrade hydrogen peroxide protocol (as detailed in the book - The One Minute Cure), up to 8 drops of 35% in 8 oz of distilled water, 3x/day. I will continue up to 26 drops 3x/day then taper down a drop day by day until I get to th maintenance of 3drops 3x/day.
Ted rcommend cleaning the environment with a ncessary solution of borax and H2O2 to kill the mites (I add this to lysol). He also stresses putting both hydrogen peroxide and borax in the laundry wash cycle. I let mine soak in this (+ A&H powder) for an hour then run it - I also put a scoop of DE (mixed with pyrethroid powder) into the dryer with the clothes, run on High. I sprayed all my clothing with a mix of water with alcohol, permethrin, borax, H2O2, cedar, clove, peppermint, lavender, tea tree oil and a little bit of apple cider vinegar.
My house smells really fresh, clothes smell good, best of all no itchy/crawly sensation.
What to lose? Ted's solution of Borax and hydrogen peroxide are super cheap (at least, relatively so) and are the absolutely only thing that give me cause to hope for a future free of this pestilence.
Give the thread a look-see - I'm sure you won't be disappointed. On the contrary.
Pemethrin might work fine for folks with recent infestation but if you have had them for while, as Ted explains, these buggers are now traveling via the bloodstream. He explains how the solution kills them.
Would love to hear how adding these recipes into mite-fights help you all as well...
God Bless you all!
#2 Aug 6, 2012
Sorry about the spelling mistakes, have a kid and gotta get to work around the house.
You get the jist though. Go to earthclinic.com , type 'mite infestation cures questions' in the search box, follow through with these simply and inxpensive remedys and report back. It only took me one day to see awesome results. I'm day three now of the internal remedy and feel like new...
#3 Aug 7, 2012
Okay folks, its Day 4 now. I feel fantastic. No itchy crawly, creepy sensations.
So happy! It took just a couple days to expl masses of tiny mites out of my skin but now I apply the concentrated Borax with hydrogen peroxide solution and its all clear :)
I wish you all happy healing. Apply this solution and I'm positive you'll be 100% in no time.
Btw, I also tried triphala, neem, turmeric or several months to no avail. Also tried DMSO with catte ivermctin.
Oh my goodness, I was so desperate to over my body continuously in those chems.
This remedy is very safe, non-toxic, good for pet mange.
#5 Aug 8, 2012
Thank you but I no longer have need of that. The mites have effectively been brought to the surface with the topical Borax saturated in 1% h2O2. The ones living deeper have been flushed out as well. I'm no longer itchy and extremely pleased 2 have found (finally) the non-toxic remedy!!!
Big smiles :)
I don't have a bathtub snyway :/
#6 Aug 9, 2012
Hi Str8uP, following your progress and hoping you continue to get good results! Still a little shy of trying the internal borax but you just might convince me!:)
#7 Aug 9, 2012
Day 6 - i'm taking today and tomorrow off as suggested. I feel great but there have been slight crawly sensation. The Borax solution is very soothing to the nerves so maybe thats why I'm feeling them a little bit today. But then I put on the paste and the sensations stop immediately. Borax apparanetly, from what 've read, kills the eggs too. The only area I felt this crawly sensation was areas of huge infestation (shoulder blades, glutes). But I had them poring out of my abdominal sides (where I had some extra padding) earlier ths week and no crawly sensation there earlier today so I think they're done for there. I think there were a lot of layers of eggs in the heavily infested zones. There may still be mites hatching or just debris but as I'm not sure, I'm sticking with the solution a little while longer.
I'm going to start back up with the Borax solution in two days and continue for two more weeks (two more 5-day cycles).
Today and tomorrow though I'm still with the food grade hydrogen peroxide (FGHP) protocol... I'm up to ten drops per 8 oz cup of water, 3x/day. Also taking a glass of warm water with 2 Tbsp. baking soda and lemon to adjust my pH and taking a drink with apple cider vinegar daily as well.
If you read through Ted's post in the two threads I mentioned you will find good and sound reasoning...
No hype, just the facts
I've aso added Borax into my shampoo and body wash.
This all is making my skin smooth and silky soft too!
Borax is a winner!
If you have demodex mites in your eyelashes, you can put the Borax there with 1% H2O2 mixed in with castor oil to kill the mites and it doesn't hurt a bit. Borax diluted has been known for years to be safe as a wash for eye infections.
No more poisons for my family.
You know, after ingesting 5 tubes total of ivermectin horse paste and smothering my skin with cattle chem'd DMSO, not to mention all the permethrin, I didn't hesitate to try the Borax. It was known to our ancestors as a magic crystal and commonly used.
Most importantly, it is working.........
Thank you God!
#8 Aug 9, 2012
Sister, you can try just the external solution if you are nervous. I assure you though, I have felt no ill effects from this drink...
#9 Aug 10, 2012
Notes from Ted at earthclinic.com :
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Dear Molly: First off there are many other people who have bumps like yours (all over their body but without the acne head) and when they apply lavender oil the mites run for cover by moving themselves to other areas. The mites are loosely called Morgellon's disease, but I prefer to call them mites or nanoinsects, due to its size being peculiarly smaller than a dog mange.
This is why if a mites were present that an aroma oils (lavender oil) set up a barrier to prevent them from spreading to the head (by applying lavender oil a ring around the neck), or if they reach the head, a barrier oil is drawn around the eyes (ring around the eyes), noses and ears, before they are applied to the TARGET area.
The mites infestation manifests themselves like lupus, rosacea, or lyme. They can take the form of a synthetic superbug (man-made) if there were fibers ( www.silentsuperbugs.com )
One interesting thing about these "unknown mites" is that if they stay on the skin, they are relatively easy to kill and will never come back again.
However, if they get into the bloodstream they manifest themselves into more serious condition of lupus, lyme or a relatively benign rosacea. So the fact that foundations are set up to deal with these problem separately, the conditions from my own trial and error were all related and all responded quite well to the borax remedy. I have as yet to wait from other places for their remedy and they don't seem to have any solution, but it is likely earthclinic will be the first to post them anyway!
Usually a borax is used both externally and internally as way of treatment. In some cases eating orange peels might help too.
Yes the borax and hydrogen peroxide is drying. The way to resolve this dilemma is to use to apply lotions after the application UNRINSED. Another possibility is to use MORE frequently (as much as you like) a simpler solution of just borax without rinsing by using hydrogen peroxide mixed to borax less frequently.
Neem oil would also do it but a lot less effectively as they are also insecticidal but an orange oil CAN be mixed with some borax in event the drying effect of hydrogen peroxide is causing the problem.
DMSO if mixed in low portions with a borax solution can be another substitute, but I prefer a fairly low concentration so that it doesn't cause stinging, such as always below 50%. I would have to try it myself to know the exact concentrations.
People have really different tolerances for DMSO (which are also penetrating) and I guess the exact concentration that has the least irritation and still have some effects is between 10% to 25% DMSO in a borax. I have no way for sure since the numbers I tried are too small. What I do know is my own arms, I can easily go 50% concentration since that area is less sensitive.
The reason why dogs are relatively easy to cure with their mites infestation are two reasons I can think of, firstly the mites species do not go deep into the bloodstream, the second reason is the size prevents them and only exists exclusively on the skin of the dogs.
The human forms of mites are much more smaller and can reside in the bloodstream if action was not taken soon enough to kill them, giving them a CHANCE to survive deep in the blood, which can result in pretty bad joint pains and terrible skin pus.
#10 Aug 10, 2012
Notes, continued from (my hero) Ted:
I was just wondering if it's safe to continue doing the borax soaks for this long?
Borax can be used externally just like soaps. Although I tend to think soap at least for me are actually more toxic for me as soaps have pseudoestrogens from all those perfumes they are using, and it just modifies my testosterone, which I don't like.
A borax is more ideal for me since it is unscented and have no dangerous pseudoestrogens. Some sodium lauryl sulfate contains traces of dioxin which I do not like and it is the borax that removes the body of excess fluoride due to popular water fluoridation and chlorination which seems to destroy all my plants by stunting its growth.
Many people worry of taking too much borax. Taking too much borax manifests itself by if they were taken too much, it will cause a diarrhea, being the most frequently cited problems. The other, which is less prevalent is sleepiness as borax may cause sleepiness, if of course you happen to be already sleepy, but has no effect or little effect if I was not sleepy. Although tit does have calming effect. The other thing is borax, if taken too much and I don't mean poisoning myself by taking a tablespoonful - can lead to some loss of appetite, which is great if I happened to want to loose some weight. Although the practice of taking baking soda and borax (a very small amount) does lead to weight loss as the borax seems to cause my body temperature and metabolism to go up, and hence weight loss and also chelates out fluorides which my body don't want after all.
One commonly cited borax toxicity is the issue of LD50, which means a dose that can kill half of the mice often expressed as mg/kg. For example a borax or boron is actually a essential mineral needed for bone metabolism, and boron are found in thyroid and parathyroid, which influences metabolism and remove fluoride from the pineal gland which tends to accumulate over the lifetime. Fluoride therefore accelerates the aging process while borax reduces the fluoride buildup, which is a common biomarkers for aging used by scientist. The LD50 of borax is about 2000 mg/kg and the LD50 of salt is about the same as borax. Therefore for a borax to have a LD50, a 100 kilogram man would have to take 2000 mg/kg x 100 = 200,000 mg or 200 grams of borax. So a small person, whose weight is 50 kg his LD50 toxic dose would be 100 grams of borax, or 1/10 of a kilogram!
In practice taking that kind of a huge dose is not possible except for accidental poisoning. In practice I would be more concerned about taking low dose for especially sensitive people or make minor errors in taking too much as opposed to taking it ridiculously too much.
So taking borax in that instances would lead to the problems of weight loss, diarrhea, loss of appetite (I like this one!), then the borax can be taken by me as long as I like. In fact I take them for weight loss and joint pains (cause is mycoplasma or mycobacterium).
I find the skin also gets less irritated as mites die if I take 1/4 (men's dose) or 1/8 (woman's dose) of borax mixed in 1 liter of water taken throughout the day. Depending on peoples's sensitivity I have noticed some can take it for a long as they like to some people who have low tolerances and can take it for no longer than 2-3 days out of a week. The only way to know anything is for me to just try it. I also take it for my joint pains. The key to all this is if the boron is maintained at a steady level in the blood long enough all mites eggs would die and it shouldn't take that long but it does take at least 1 month of continued use, assuming proper usage. However most of improvement is seen for about 2-3 weeks.
#11 Aug 10, 2012
Ted note (part 3):
I believe that taking 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda in 1/2 glass of water, once in the morning and once before bedtime to help with the mites infestation, and then an hour or thirty minutes after I take the baking soda I will likely take the borax drinking water.
It is necessary I think to take a bath in borax and wash all clothes and bedspread in a borax AND hydrogen peroxide solution. However for clothes and bedspread to prevent further REINFECTION is the key and it is why borax should be used as a cleaning solution in the house and the use of laundry. It is best to mixed the borax, in a detergent when doing laundry or cleaning floors if at all possible.
Most people who get mites get it from being outdoors, bungalows, and now the mites infestation seem to exists in hotels and motels. This is why borax should be used not just for household purposes but in business establishments such as hospitals and hotels, where people often get them due to being a public facilities.
B : "re: Skin mites (Demodex mites) on human skin. Need help desperately. Dear Ted, Is there any way / remedies to remove, preferrably KILL all these mites especially eggs on my skins? My scalp is fine - no problem there, but my skin all over my body is not (except my face which is consider no problem now). Normally it's the other way round where peeps got on both their scalp and face. The little sting and itch and crawl can be unbearable at times. I tired boric acid (we don't have Borax oevr here) bath with sulphur...just so-so. Pls help. Thanks in advance!!"
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "The best way is to neutralize the boric acid with baking soda, until the pH paper indicates alkalinity of the color blue. Then this is mixed to a 1% hydrogen peroxide solution and applied to the skin area. The KEY IS THE hydrogen peroxide, which attacks the eggs to by blowing them up while the borax acts as a insect stomach poison.
Applying orange oil 30% in alcohol solutions can also kill the mites insect just as effectively. Both alcohol and orange oil are insecticidal anyway.
There are other ways to deal with this such a solution of tannic acid can practically denature all of the mites just as effectively. The solution is seen as 1 tablespoon of tannic acid in about 1 cup of water, would be diluted enough that it won't be too drying to the skin, but will kill the eggs as tannic acid attacks the protein of the eggs by transforming them to leather like substance much like the tanning leathers."
B : "Dear Ted, Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom. I'll try it then let you know. Btw, where do I find pure Tannic acid for sale. I googled a bit..they (those chemical co) usually sell like in bulk form...aiiishh! God bless."
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Most chemical companies sells in bulk, true, but the prices are sometimes not as expensive. However, borax in general works best by if it is taken also internally only for a couple of days out of a week most of the mites goes away in about a week or two. The usual dose I take if I have that problem is 1/4 teaspoon of borax in one liter of drinking water should help the most based on my experience and its result should be seen within about 2-3 days."
Good luck you guys. I really fekt they were mostly all dead by Day 2!
Now I'm Day 7, no drink yesterday or today. Just the slightest tingling sensations in trouble zones upon rising, stop after application of borax/h2O2 solution.
Will start drink back up tomorrow.
#12 Aug 10, 2012
Oh snap, I just read through his notes again. He recommends using the internal solution for a month straight to kill all the mites. I fekt no tingling sensations whatsoever when I was on the drink. So I'm going to make it up right now and keep with it continuously for another few weeks.
As I noted previously I've felt no ill effects from ingesting the Borax.
Since: May 12
#13 Aug 10, 2012
What exactly did you do as homeopathy and what amounts and how long for the parasite cleanse?
Since: May 12
#14 Aug 10, 2012
I read them , I just didn't like the idea of taking borax internally.
#15 Aug 10, 2012
Thats so weird!
This was your immediate response to my post on the homeopathy board:
"I didn't see the internal suggestion of Teds, I'll keep that in mind...(and so forth)"
Please please pretty please refrain from posting on this thread.
If you don't want to try it and feel free in two days, fine.
If you want to spend the rest of your life on topix scabies forum, okay.
If you don't either, you should give this a try.
I was a perfectionist in my parasite cleansing and homeo treatments for several months each. Waste.of.time.
Well, I felt stronger during my cleansing of course but no change to the mite livity.
Please fred/lotus, only comment on this thread after you have given it a try.
I want to keep it simple, okay.
I'll periodically check back in to see how this works for you all.
But I feel free finally. Took my pinch of Borax in water this morning and haven't felt a tickle since.
Chao for now!
#16 Aug 10, 2012
Hi Str8uP, Are you taking the widely available 20 Team Borax one finds in the grocery store? Or is there some food grade variety? Thanks!
#18 Aug 10, 2012
Toxicity of Borax comment, continued...
'I am not going to push you to try anything including borax or your decision to do anything. But you must come to realize a point in time where your logic rules, not what is been taught but what you think works for you.
It must be understood that the "system" doesn't like to see you cured, suffering is a lot more profitable to both drug system and "the system" and it only pleases the "system" that population control, which is the primary goal of today's system be enforced, stealthly.
I can never go directly against them, they are just too powerful. And yes, I get hassled, threatened more than I care to remember, but I am doing the best I can to get the information out as gently as I can imagine without ruffling too many feathers. The best I can say "this is this" and "that is that", but if I go any further, I get into trouble too.
All I can say is in my own experience getting alkaline enough and even a small amount of borax has the similar toxicity to salt in terms of LD50 and remains the key to getting lupus recovery. Those who do get cured, don't post them directly they also fear because of so much "publicity against" borax use.
The ONLY published death against borax use is NOT borax. It is boric acid from accidental poisoning as the baby accidentally ate the boric acid. The baby more likely died from acidosis (from the strong acid of boric), rather than the boron, in my humble opinion. Boric acid is in fact much more toxic than borax.
You decide. So far everyone I know is benefiting, but that's just my own experience. I am out on a limb more than I care to remember when I post earthclinic. And believe me, I know a lot more than I care to post because there so much information pollution out there, including wikipedia. The war stories of me is just too overwhelming even to scratch the surface.
If in deep doubt I will always take much less say one tiny grain borax dissollved in a swimming pool of water just to make a fool of myself. Or perhaps, with little more confidence, maybe just one grain in one liter of water, which is a bit less ridiculous, then if need be maybe just 1/10 of whatever I think I used might be someday, safe. It's the same story ten years ago about hydrogen peroxide and colloidal silver, during the early heydays of the internet, when remedies were first introduced. The reason why we CAN'T CURE ourself is we are simply too dependent on a system which we believed to be benign, but personally I believed to be malevolent, and once you begin to realize this then you will know that what you have been taught is either all wrong, or our own mind has been divorced from ourself.
It takes only a simple observation and some basic rules of chemistry for me to write up hundreds of remedies in earthclinic and the reason why I can do that, is simply we have been conditioned not to think, but to follow rules. Some people spent their whole lives following rules, and the world they live in looks nice, and it is tempting when you are offered the "blue pill" or the "red pill" as in the movie Matrix. Once again, you have to decide, which do you want, the blue pill or the red pill?
p.s. Try to consider taking chlorella or chlorella/spirulina supplements at least 5 days out of a week. You may have forgotten this one. However the bugs won't die if borax is not used, sorry to say."
#19 Aug 10, 2012
Thanks for answering those difficult questions.This one as a collection of links.
#20 Aug 10, 2012
Please just doesn't go as far as it used to :/
I don't have time to waste Denver. Been there, done that.
You come to this thread and write a blatant lie.
Why in Heaven's name would you do that?!? I think you are so weird.
Holler back if and ONLY IF you give this protocol a try.
Wellington, New Zealand
#21 Aug 10, 2012
Thanks for posting the info str8up. I had used your link but couldn't find the info.
I have diagnosed scabies for 5 wks but feel I may have had them much longer.
I have tried Malathion 3 x tea tree/ lavender baths/ rub downs/ sulpher soap etc but they haven't worked.
I am about to try sulper and vaseline eek this weekend and also started on black walnut and wormwood herbal remedy.
My goal is to make my body as alkaline as possible.
I am now on the hunt for Borax as well.
Am trying to stay positive.
At least this is making get my whole system and life cleansed!
Will let you know how I go.
#22 Aug 10, 2012
Is 20 Team Borax the correct product? I seriously want to know!
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