the cure is so simple, I can't believ...
Neverland

United States

#479 Mar 3, 2011
YOU STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID FOOOOOOLS! You did not follow my instructions! You must sleep naked in the forest for a week with a shotgun!!!! You LIKE that smell?
No Not Lindane

UK

#480 Mar 3, 2011
Keeping very clean will help to wash away young mites that live on the surface and in hair follicles. Washing hands often and showering twice a day will certainly help. Keep some disposable hand wipes around too. Some people wear gloves to do their wash. Avoiding contact with people is advised until you think you're cured. If you can't avoid touching people or pets, wear long sleeve shirts and gloves. If you have long hair, wear it up. Sleep in very loose clothing or in the buff.

It's unfortunate Stromectol is so hard to get. Using it and a topical is the best way to kill mites. It's difficult to get an Rx in the US too. Things are changing and the medical community is starting to see the benifits of using Ivermectin to treat simple cases of scabies. In the US, since last year the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention list Stromectol(Ivermectin) and Permathrin as first-line treatments for scabies. Stromectol is actually a very safe drug for almost everyone.

Not sure what scabicide topicals or Stromectol you can have shipped to Ireland but if your physician won't prescribe, ordering from online stores is a option. Be carefull ordering from some internet stores, especially China. Some Canada sites are bogas but I ordered Lindane from Canada with no problems. Note that Lindane is considered very toxic. I've only used it to spot treat, never full body. Lindane is supposed to kill eggs so it's a good choice for treating burrows containing eggs.

I usually ask people who are having a hard time getting rid of mites if they have pets. Pets should be treated because they may be hosting the mites too. Pets may not have current visible symptoms of bumps or rashes but they may shake their heads, lick their paws or legs or scratch and as the infestation gets worse, bumps and hair loss will occur. A vet may be able to advise a topical spot-on with the ingredient Selamectin or Moxidectin. Ivermectin or Doramectin injections are also commonly used to treat animals with sarcoptic mites.
Post Scabies Infection

UK

#481 Mar 3, 2011
It could be a secondary infection. But you could also be suffering from the post-scabies rash which can last 2-4, and even 6 weeks.

IF YOU HAVE NO NEW BITES or burrows anywhere, then it might be either a new kind of infection OR the post rash.

The athlete's foot creme I tried on my foot before I knew I had scabies worked - but only temporarily.

Here's what I'd do. If you can, see if your doctor will prescribe Allegra/Fexofendoine(sp). It's an antihistimine. My allergist prescribed that along with Zantac (an over-the-counter stomach remedy ... but has antihistimines in it). I took 2 Allegra and 2 Zantac every day and that helped ease the itch and rash to where it was quite bearable. I didn't need a creme but 2x per day and not for very long.

Again, if you don't have new bites or burrows, then you're probably toward the end of the post-scabies infection. If your rash goes on longer than another week without it getting noticably better AND you've STILL got no new bites/burrows ... I'd go to a dermatologist and see if you've got a secondary infection (which is quite possible).
Jesselyn

United States

#482 Mar 3, 2011
I only hope that no one is being influenced here to put Pine-Sol on their skin. Netherlands posts have relevence on this thread, but the rest of you need to go and "bang" somewhere else.
Jesselyn

United States

#483 Mar 3, 2011
Hi Skf-didn't mean you either. Yeah, bleach baths kill chigger mites when they are already burrowed deep into the layers of skin.
Blood Plasma

UK

#484 Mar 3, 2011
there were some links here about the higher concentration of iver in your body after a fatty meal like 2 hours after taking it or something. I don't recall what it measured, blood plasma, fatty tissues, but I think the point of taking it on an empty stomach is that any meds taken that way are absorbed faster. Also when they did the studies they were done on an empty stomach. But doctors have told me it didn't really matter. I figure empty stomach is better because you want it to reach the epidermis. Too bad we have to be our own doctors.

Also, maybe run this by your internist to increase the dose from 9 to 12, 15 or 18 mg. At first they started giving me 9, then another doc said that's too low, and gave me script for 18 mg. I had had scabies a long time and was down from about 135 to 110 and they still said take 18. I wasn't using it with topicals, but after 2 rounds they declared me cured. The recommendation on emedicine.com (link posted in the ivermectin thread) is for at least 12 mg if you're over 80 lbs, I think, might want to check that.

I remember my neighbor kids had lice and their mom cured it with mayonaise for 3 days. I haven't been keeping up with the postings, but just another thought.
Jesselyn

United States

#485 Mar 3, 2011
-Yes, Netherlands, Lindane works probably the best of all topicals, but is also the most dangerous. It has caused a few deaths. Malithion still works good, if you leave it on for 24 hours.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#486 Mar 3, 2011
Hi Maidenhead, in my far too long an experience, no one does any tests . This is a major problem when there are no lesions (which are often caused by scratching).I was diagnosed as having scabies on symptoms ,not evidence, and have had a drawn out nightmare to be treated. I'm not sure now what I have or have had but lean towards thinking it's bacterial and am having some success following 'Secondary Infection's advice .
It's all a bit tricky knowing what's going on-post/secondary etc plus there are loads of conditions which make one itchy and give open sores.
I don't have much confidence in dermatologists personally as they won't do a skin/bacterial/fungal culture.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#487 Mar 3, 2011
benG1 wrote:
Ah ,you disagree . Incendiary ?? What ? Glock time is it ? Even more pathetic lol!
Where have I or any of the posters you've mentioned been abusive ?
Where's your evidence ? Post some links.
There are countless rude and dismissive ones from
you. Some from your new partner in crime Jeannie as
well.
Thanks BenG for trying to add a bit of reason, but I think Aaron was refering to 'glockenspeil', don't you think? To me, it's hopeless to argue with these posters, one side or the other. I made the mistake of trying a couple of times and was called an innumerable bunch of foul names, actually not by Aaron.
Maybe some of us are getting better because we take other people's advice - and I'm not talking about bleach baths. If that worked, I wouldn't be here - I'd have been cured two years ago when I tried bleach baths.
Jesselyn

United States

#488 Mar 3, 2011
No Not Lindane wrote:
Keeping very clean will help to wash away young mites that live on the surface and in hair follicles. Washing hands often and showering twice a day will certainly help. Keep some disposable hand wipes around too. Some people wear gloves to do their wash. Avoiding contact with people is advised until you think you're cured. If you can't avoid touching people or pets, wear long sleeve shirts and gloves. If you have long hair, wear it up. Sleep in very loose clothing or in the buff.
It's unfortunate Stromectol is so hard to get. Using it and a topical is the best way to kill mites. It's difficult to get an Rx in the US too. Things are changing and the medical community is starting to see the benifits of using Ivermectin to treat simple cases of scabies. In the US, since last year the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention list Stromectol(Ivermectin) and Permathrin as first-line treatments for scabies. Stromectol is actually a very safe drug for almost everyone.
Not sure what scabicide topicals or Stromectol you can have shipped to Ireland but if your physician won't prescribe, ordering from online stores is a option. Be carefull ordering from some internet stores, especially China. Some Canada sites are bogas but I ordered Lindane from Canada with no problems. Note that Lindane is considered very toxic. I've only used it to spot treat, never full body. Lindane is supposed to kill eggs so it's a good choice for treating burrows containing eggs.
I usually ask people who are having a hard time getting rid of mites if they have pets. Pets should be treated because they may be hosting the mites too. Pets may not have current visible symptoms of bumps or rashes but they may shake their heads, lick their paws or legs or scratch and as the infestation gets worse, bumps and hair loss will occur. A vet may be able to advise a topical spot-on with the ingredient Selamectin or Moxidectin. Ivermectin or Doramectin injections are also commonly used to treat animals with sarcoptic mites.
My cat received Ivermectin shots from the Vet several times when we had it. Stromectol is very safe when used correctly. You are brilliant.
Jesselyn

United States

#489 Mar 3, 2011
Canuckette wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks BenG for trying to add a bit of reason, but I think Aaron was refering to 'glockenspeil', don't you think? To me, it's hopeless to argue with these posters, one side or the other. I made the mistake of trying a couple of times and was called an innumerable bunch of foul names, actually not by Aaron.
Maybe some of us are getting better because we take other people's advice - and I'm not talking about bleach baths. If that worked, I wouldn't be here - I'd have been cured two years ago when I tried bleach baths.
Get the hell off of the bleach thread then. I call it like I see it.
Jesselyn

United States

#490 Mar 3, 2011
-I know for a fact that these baths work for most. You sure think alot of yourself. Doctors use this method. If it did not work for your problem, I am sorry. You are so arrogant,and pitiful, begging for a biscuit. This thread was built by the callouses on my fingers, during my time off. Not yours. Go get your glory elsewhere troll. The persons moderating are aware of where these trolling posts are coming from. GET LOST TROLL.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#491 Mar 3, 2011
That's big-hearted of you. I agree but can't help myself sometimes.
Hope it wasn't me: if it was I apologize.
Very late/early here. Time to sleep. Bonne nuit.Demain..

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#492 Mar 3, 2011
Jesselyn wrote:
<quoted text>Get the hell off of the bleach thread then. I call it like I see it.
Why don't you shut the feck up and stop being so controlling .
Jesselyn

United States

#493 Mar 3, 2011
Post Scabies Infection wrote:
It could be a secondary infection. But you could also be suffering from the post-scabies rash which can last 2-4, and even 6 weeks.
IF YOU HAVE NO NEW BITES or burrows anywhere, then it might be either a new kind of infection OR the post rash.
The athlete's foot creme I tried on my foot before I knew I had scabies worked - but only temporarily.
Here's what I'd do. If you can, see if your doctor will prescribe Allegra/Fexofendoine(sp). It's an antihistimine. My allergist prescribed that along with Zantac (an over-the-counter stomach remedy ... but has antihistimines in it). I took 2 Allegra and 2 Zantac every day and that helped ease the itch and rash to where it was quite bearable. I didn't need a creme but 2x per day and not for very long.
Again, if you don't have new bites or burrows, then you're probably toward the end of the post-scabies infection. If your rash goes on longer than another week without it getting noticably better AND you've STILL got no new bites/burrows ... I'd go to a dermatologist and see if you've got a secondary infection (which is quite possible).
Brillant

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#494 Mar 3, 2011
Jesselyn wrote:
-I know for a fact that these baths work for most. You sure think alot of yourself. Doctors use this method. If it did not work for your problem, I am sorry. You are so arrogant,and pitiful, begging for a biscuit. This thread was built by the callouses on my fingers, during my time off. Not yours. Go get your glory elsewhere troll. The persons moderating are aware of where these trolling posts are coming from. GET LOST TROLL.
You are nuts and should see a shrink. It's you who is looking for glory.
Make your mind up - you're sorry one minute and going all drama -queen the next 'This thread was built by the callouses on my fingers'
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD..Jesus ,get over yourself ffs. Don't worry ,you'll get your reward in heaven.
Yeah ,the trolls are you and Aaron
Jesselyn

United States

#495 Mar 3, 2011
Blood Plasma wrote:
there were some links here about the higher concentration of iver in your body after a fatty meal like 2 hours after taking it or something. I don't recall what it measured, blood plasma, fatty tissues, but I think the point of taking it on an empty stomach is that any meds taken that way are absorbed faster. Also when they did the studies they were done on an empty stomach. But doctors have told me it didn't really matter. I figure empty stomach is better because you want it to reach the epidermis. Too bad we have to be our own doctors.
Also, maybe run this by your internist to increase the dose from 9 to 12, 15 or 18 mg. At first they started giving me 9, then another doc said that's too low, and gave me script for 18 mg. I had had scabies a long time and was down from about 135 to 110 and they still said take 18. I wasn't using it with topicals, but after 2 rounds they declared me cured. The recommendation on emedicine.com (link posted in the ivermectin thread) is for at least 12 mg if you're over 80 lbs, I think, might want to check that.
I remember my neighbor kids had lice and their mom cured it with mayonaise for 3 days. I haven't been keeping up with the postings, but just another thought.
Brilliant.
Aaron

Hollywood, FL

#496 Mar 3, 2011
benG1 wrote:
<quoted text>
You are nuts and should see a shrink. It's you who is looking for glory.
Make your mind up - you're sorry one minute and going all drama -queen the next 'This thread was built by the callouses on my fingers'
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD..Jesus ,get over yourself ffs. Don't worry ,you'll get your reward in heaven.
Yeah ,the trolls are you and Aaron
Go to bed, BenG.
Jesselyn

United States

#497 Mar 3, 2011
Post Scabies Infection wrote:
It could be a secondary infection. But you could also be suffering from the post-scabies rash which can last 2-4, and even 6 weeks.
IF YOU HAVE NO NEW BITES or burrows anywhere, then it might be either a new kind of infection OR the post rash.
The athlete's foot creme I tried on my foot before I knew I had scabies worked - but only temporarily.
Here's what I'd do. If you can, see if your doctor will prescribe Allegra/Fexofendoine(sp). It's an antihistimine. My allergist prescribed that along with Zantac (an over-the-counter stomach remedy ... but has antihistimines in it). I took 2 Allegra and 2 Zantac every day and that helped ease the itch and rash to where it was quite bearable. I didn't need a creme but 2x per day and not for very long.
Again, if you don't have new bites or burrows, then you're probably toward the end of the post-scabies infection. If your rash goes on longer than another week without it getting noticably better AND you've STILL got no new bites/burrows ... I'd go to a dermatologist and see if you've got a secondary infection (which is quite possible).
Now, this is what I call a real post. Brilliant, helpful.
Jesselyn

United States

#498 Mar 3, 2011
You will NEVER control ME ben. Take a pill. Nighty night. (Pissin' all ore the place).

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