Scabies or bird mites?
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New York, NY

#309 Jan 9, 2010
CYONARA OR DEMAND CS INDOORS, IN HOME

-- have you used either or these products in this way?

The label says not to - says they are only for commercial/industrial places. But I think I want to bring some bug sprays into the picture.
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If you have used in this way and had success (I think some people have), questions I'd love answered:
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1 - did you do any research or talk to a pro about safety? is it okay to sleep in a place you have sprayed, and if so, how soon?
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2 - in exactly what proportions did you mix the stuff? I have some Demand CS, and also some Nylar, and a 1 gallon sprayer.
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Things have been better for me, but not yet all better.
Vann from Tennessee

United States

#310 Jan 9, 2010
Nightmares Do Come True wrote:
For anyone getting bad chills and fever after being infested for over a month, you should check this site out, it has a natural remedy for lyme disease.
http://www.healthynewage.com/herbal-health-ne...
Now, I am no longer sure that I have scabies after the other night when I found strings on my face and other parts of my body. I want to describe them so that everyone knows what I found. These strings were up to an inch long, but most were approximately one half inch long and fibrous. As I pulled them apart between my fingers they exhibited multiple fibers. Almost looked like fiberglass strands or cotton being stretched. These things were in balls or strands, and were slimy, probably from the coconut oil and sulfur ointment.
I asked MikDee last night how fast his top of skin crawlers are. He replied that they moved slowly, like a worm, and from all the reports I have found, this is typical of scabies. My top of skin crawlers are fast! They can cross the top of my foot in less than a second.
I would think that this is a nematode, but that would not explain the top of skin crawlers. Also, when the top of skin crawls are persistant, I can rub my hand through them and transfer them to my hand.
I am done using the harsh chemicals to try to treat whatever my condition is. I do not know if it is Morgellons disease, but it seems to fit. Tomorrow I will start on the cat's claw to try to reduce the chills and I will let you guys know my results. If anyone reading this could tell me how fast their top of skin crawls are, it might put my mind more at ease...or scare the hell out of me. But I sure would like to know. God Bless you all and I hope we can all be cured soon.
"... These strings were up to an inch long, but most were approximately one half inch long and fibrous..."

Nightmares,
You have Morgellons proven bt your fibers! Please stop treating for mites and focus on Morgellons. Here is the most advanced and effective treatments for Morgellons in this discussion thread:
Meg280,"Diatomacious Earth is extremely effective on Morg!"
http://www.morgellons-disease-research.com/Mo...

Also see this thread for more your condition:
http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/TFC...

Vann
still fighting

Dallas, TX

#311 Mar 14, 2010
to still suffering. i certainly hope that you are not, given the time of your last posting. but how did you use the windex on your scalp. you say that you used freedom 45, eurax and windex to get the bugs out of your hair. did you just spray on the itchy spots of your scalp?
kelly

Orland Park, IL

#312 Apr 29, 2010
well did you know you have to use the cream in her hair and to your hold body and apply permethrin(the cream) 2 time. for instance you do it monday apply next monday same for the hair. and vaccum everyday for three weeks to six weeks keep tub clean, clean furniture, spray disinfectant/antibacterial around the hold house. car seat the car just everything you touch.
sarah

Hyattsville, MD

#315 Jul 3, 2011
im not sure what i have, it started with me sitting on my couch.i would get little bites that would itch like crazy, after a couple of minutes the little red bumps would go away if i didnt itch them.im not only getting bitten at night im getting bitten durning the day. if im at home but if im out and about i dont get bitten.i thought it was fleas and we exterminated but its been 2 days and their back and seems like their worse.and i cant see what ever is bitten me.does anyone know what this could me?
Bill

United States

#316 Jul 3, 2011
Hi Sarah

The same thing happened to me .
I SOAK IN1 CUP BORAX IN THE TUB FOR 30 mins & 1/8 cup Dawn dish soap & keep the suds up so the smimmers drown in the soap , do it every 3 days
I also treated any bite rather then scratch ( ut stops the itch & burning in 3 mins with
16 oz peroxide
32 oz water
2 tbls borax
the borax nuetralizes the peroxide so there is no burning , it is painless , the peroxide causes the borax to penetrate in to the skin killing all bugs & vectored infections .

This bug is a menace , it infest couches & beds etc.
I sleep on an air matress on a wood floor I mop w/ 1 cup Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent & 1 gal of water
I am persistant and eventually I killed them & got them off me . I threw out my bed & couch & cars & anyting else I didn't need & powdered w/& borax all over everything else & left it on . I had it very bad for 5 years .
1 cup Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent in the tub & soak for 30 mins ended it.
I now puff baking soda around & it dries out the bug & kills it instantly , I then wipe of the tables & leave the rest like it is carpet fresh
I boiled my clothes for 5 years daily. now I only wash w/ Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent ( not the liquid : it has no sodium carbonate )

God bless you ,

Bill
email me anytime at
[email protected] if you need any help , I know how frustrating this bug is , it is a midge of some sort , but it is a bug , kill it, it will die , pray hard God will help , He is love
sarah wrote:
im not sure what i have, it started with me sitting on my couch.i would get little bites that would itch like crazy, after a couple of minutes the little red bumps would go away if i didnt itch them.im not only getting bitten at night im getting bitten durning the day. if im at home but if im out and about i dont get bitten.i thought it was fleas and we exterminated but its been 2 days and their back and seems like their worse.and i cant see what ever is bitten me.does anyone know what this could me?
Bill

Vancouver, WA

#317 Jul 4, 2011
Hi

many tips and procedures are listed at

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/birdmite...

It is free to join , many people from this forum go there ,

My user name is John Doe at that forum

GOd bless you ,

Bill
Justine

Jackson Heights, NY

#318 Jul 12, 2011
Hi,

In a horrible twist of events (I have extreme anxiety problems and OCD) a guy that I went on two dates with called me last week to tell me he has scabies. I am currently waiting it out to see what happens with that. The even more messed up part comes from the fact that my dad called me today to tell me he picked up a baby barn swallow that had fallen from it's nest. After he did this his hand was swarming with mites. Even after he washed his hands there were still mites on his shirt. I'm so upset because even though I don't live with my parents I visit them a lot. At first I was worried about spreading scabies to them (if I haven't already) and now I'm worried about going home and getting bird miteS! My question is, if I went home to visit them would the bird mites infect me and could I bring them back to my apartment, would they establish a colony in my own apartment? Or is it more of an environmental thing?

Thanks. I'm so upset I can't stop crying thinking about how I will not be able to visit them for 8 months or however long bird mites live.
Laura

Tampa, FL

#320 Oct 20, 2011
If I listen to you all I would just go commit suicide, get lost!
Dayze

Dallas, TX

#321 Oct 4, 2012
JUST FOUND A CURE TO KILL BIRD MITES..NATURALLY...
WHITE VINEGAR.....FULL STRENGTH...
My sister got them from a patient when she worked at parkland when she picked up the patient’s gown to put into the hamper.

My sister suffered 5 years and poisoned herself horribly with chemicals trying to get rid of them.

She and her 25 year old son became recluses trying not to give them to anyone else.

She has horrible purple scars all over her.
We tried to get the University of Texas to find a way to cure them but their response was she needed a psychiatrist, that mites didn’t bore, and bird mites didn’t come on humans..

Well now we know years later….they do…
and they do bore….
and since chickens are sprayed each week, these things have mutated and become immune to the spray, and they now bore.

Well she found just a few days ago….a cure…
Someone had suggested she use white vinegar for another type of bug…and when she sprayed white vinegar on them, she found it killed the mites within 30 minutes!!!

She sprayed her bedding and it killed them in about 30 minutes.
She sprayed her couches and then carpet and it killed the mites.
She sprayed her car and it killed them in her car.

She then thought about herself, so she sprayed full strength on her leg where they bored into her skin.

Where she had sprayed, it killed them in about 30 minutes.
She sprayed another place and it killed them.
EVEN WHERE THEY WERE BORED INTO HER SKIN WHERE THESE LITTLE MOUNDS UNDER THE SKIN WERE.

She sprayed her whole body, and it killed them.

This woman has lost everything!!! so much money spent to kill these horrible monsters over the past 5 years.
Now she can have a life!!!

The Romans used VINEGAR to clean and disinfect everything.
They even put it on wounds, and drank some in water to kill intestinal parasites, washed their hair with it to make it shiny and smooth.
So many uses they used, plus so many years other countries used VINEGAR for so much.
WE GREW UP USING VINEGAR AND SALT WHEN WE DYED THINGS TO SEAL THE COLOR INTO THE CLOTH OR ITEM.

My mother used it with honey for arthritis and kidney pains.

God created everything to help us, the old standby healthy things.

Now this world wide plague has a cure.
spray your yard, patio, whole house around it, and inside and out.
SPRAY ANY BIRD HOUSE YOU HAVE AROUND YOUR HOUSE,
Clean inside of drawers and refrigerator.

Bird mites go to heat, AND LIKE FIRE ANTS, THEY GO TO THE ELECTRICAL WIRES, BECAUSE THAT FEQUENCY ATTRACTS THEM, so they will have gone to your bedrooms, as well as kitchen areas, TV areas, and any electrical machine that is warmer than the rest of the areas.
OUTSIDE THEY WILL GO TO AIR CONDITIONERS AND POOL PUMPS.

I HAVE HAD FIRE ANTS BUILD NESTS UP AND AROUND ELECTRICAL ITEMS AND EAT WIRES THROUGH ON MY POOL PUMP AS WELL AS MY AIR CONDITIONERS.
The clear vinegar smell goes away soon, so use it full strength, the dark brown vinegar can stain and the smell stays a long time.

HEY GUYS!!!!
THIS IS A THOUGHT….TRY THAT VINEGAR ON FIRE ANTS TOO!!!
IT MIGHT WORK!!!
got the itch

Green Bay, WI

#322 Oct 5, 2012
Nightmares Do Come True wrote:
Knowy- I don't know if its time to rejoice or cry with getting them off the top of my skin, because now they are all under the skin crawls...
I desperately need to find a way to stop the under skin crawls now. The ivermectin worked very well for this the very first time I used it, but has lost potency against them ever since, and it only worked for a day and a half that first time. I have been taking a lot of the iver, so I know that is not the proper treatment for what is living under my skin. I keep thinking it must be fungal, but haven't figured out how to wipe it out. If it is nematodal, then my changes in diet and dietary supplements should do the trick, but I would think they would already be showing signs of ridding them, which they are not!
As you can see I am still quite lost as far as eradication, but I am trying everything I can think of. I will never use permethrin again though, that is a guarantee. I am in agreement with many posters here that it is pure poison.
Knowy- my email is soulsearch3r2003atyahoo.com and that goes for anyone else too ;)
Benadryl is needed to take care of the it ch as the infection continues after the infestation is gone.
michelle

Clayton, NC

#323 May 13, 2013
I went to my moms and she was infested by Byrd mites that where in a nest above her porch.I now have them on my skin and now I have itched for one week now,they r driving me crazy.My kids have started itching I don't know wat to do.
michelle

Clayton, NC

#324 May 13, 2013
Please someone help!!!!!
MiteyMouseSucks

Longview, TX

#325 Aug 18, 2013
I'm going freaking crazy with these things running in and out of my nose. It started with a raccoon I fed because I felt sorry. ARGH!

So.... the raccoons have been around awhile but the baby came to the window in our yard and would eat the dog food leftover. That was it.... or WAS IT?

I've felt the creepy crawlies in my house before, but not like this. And you KNOW what I mean.

I stopped smoking last year, but picked it up then put it down, etc. Never smoke indoors. Others live here and have no issues with the exception of an occasional itch.
I started eating more sugar. I also have a thyroid issue that hit a couple years ago.

Then we had our home worked on that included tearing down thick cement walls in place since 1920 or so. The men did not clean as they should have. We went to a hotel and I'm pretty sure we brought bed bugs back and our pets brought in fleas from the yard during their running in and out while we were gone 70% of the time.

Treated for fleas. The vacuuming has helped most. The bed stuff is disposed of as far as the dark bugs. Can't see light ones. I can no longer pet my dog. I read somewhere that a fella eradicated his issue with tobacco. Curious how many people here smoked and on came the mites?

Sorry so long here, but this is a real bi**h. I no longer want to touch anyone EVER again. Seriously. I get why people get the way they do about germs. I'm going to get a rubber thing for the bed and I've already thrown out 90 percent of rugs, clothing, etc. I'm going to experiment with tobacco. One day I could see little hairs or legs floating around. Now I'm seeing them jump around my computer.

The worst is the eyelashes. I am also getting a dehumidifier. I will keep you guys posted. Honestly I feel like I'm wrapped in a giant web that keeps tickling me until I get all swollen from the bites.
Lisa

Costa Mesa, CA

#326 Mar 15, 2014
birdmitestortured wrote:
<quoted text>When I have those crazy and sudden attacks of crawling and itching I spread Neem leaf powder all over, from head to toe and it stops, then after 1 or 2 hours I take a warm bath in a mix of water, vinegar and kitchen salt. I put a whole gallon of vinegar and a cup of salt, and I stay in there relaxing for about 20 minutes or until the water gets cold, then I shower and shampoo with either selsum blue or sulfur soap. I blow dry mi hair, sprinkle a bit of peppermint or mint oil on my hair as a repeller, then spread neem oil all over my body and jump into bed.
Remember to keep your bed away from the wall and make sure that nothing from outside touches the bed, ex electric cords, night table, etc. make your bedroom OFF LIMIT to your pet. Vacuum your floor everyday and spread "20 Mule Borax" all over the floor, change it every week, also you can use baking soda. Burn menthol crystal everyday, mites hate menthol and also it dries them up! Do not give up! You are superior to them! Keep in touch! DO NOT GIVE UP!!
thank you so much for these words of encouragement... I need them so badly... I will be leaving behind worth 20 thousand of furniture, clothing and other belongings in my 3 months of battle with these mites...
Groundhog

Ithaca, NY

#327 Mar 16, 2014
Lisa wrote:
<quoted text>
thank you so much for these words of encouragement... I need them so badly... I will be leaving behind worth 20 thousand of furniture, clothing and other belongings in my 3 months of battle with these mites...
Lisa, don't waste your time and money with natural stuff. I've been there and tried them all. Go to the 'Albendazole curing me' forum under scabies. It gets rid of birdmites, scabies and
other critters. We've even done the ivermectin. Believe me, you'll be glad you didn't waste your time.
Peta

Houston, TX

#328 Mar 16, 2014
This is from Bill 2011

Hi Sarah
The same thing happened to me .
I SOAK IN1 CUP BORAX IN THE TUB FOR 30 mins & 1/8 cup Dawn dish soap & keep the suds up so the smimmers drown in the soap , do it every 3 days
I also treated any bite rather then scratch ( ut stops the itch & burning in 3 mins with
16 oz peroxide
32 oz water
2 tbls borax
the borax nuetralizes the peroxide so there is no burning , it is painless , the peroxide causes the borax to penetrate in to the skin killing all bugs & vectored infections .
This bug is a menace , it infest couches & beds etc.
I sleep on an air matress on a wood floor I mop w/ 1 cup Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent & 1 gal of water
I am persistant and eventually I killed them & got them off me . I threw out my bed & couch & cars & anyting else I didn't need & powdered w/& borax all over everything else & left it on . I had it very bad for 5 years .
1 cup Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent in the tub & soak for 30 mins ended it.
I now puff baking soda around & it dries out the bug & kills it instantly , I then wipe of the tables & leave the rest like it is carpet fresh
I boiled my clothes for 5 years daily. now I only wash w/ Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent ( not the liquid : it has no sodium carbonate )
God bless you ,
Bill
I know how frustrating this bug is , it is a midge of some sort , but it is a bug , kill it, it will die , pray hard God will help , He is love

This is good. Please read and consider.
Benny

Boca Raton, FL

#331 May 2, 2014
Are you all sure this is bird mites? I just had a nest removed 1 week ago got very worried when i started seeing mites so i called a bug guy. He promises it will be resolved. He suggested i buy a steamer..(they sell them at bed bath beyond)..not a rug shampooer but a steamer to steam your clothes. I steamed my couches and curtains 2x. I also bought kleen Naturally enzyme cleaner. Its safe to use on people, pets, and everything else. It makes mites shed their exoskeleton. I mist the entire house. I was feeling like i nipped it in the butt , until i read what you are all going through. Ummm is my nightmare just starting?

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#332 May 2, 2014
Benny wrote:
Are you all sure this is bird mites? I just had a nest removed 1 week ago got very worried when i started seeing mites so i called a bug guy. He promises it will be resolved. He suggested i buy a steamer..(they sell them at bed bath beyond)..not a rug shampooer but a steamer to steam your clothes. I steamed my couches and curtains 2x. I also bought kleen Naturally enzyme cleaner. Its safe to use on people, pets, and everything else. It makes mites shed their exoskeleton. I mist the entire house. I was feeling like i nipped it in the butt , until i read what you are all going through. Ummm is my nightmare just starting?
I would keep cleaning, and spraying everyday. It's better to be safe than sorry.
JAR

Morgantown, WV

#333 Nov 17, 2014
First let me say that the most important thing to do is pray. This will not go away without God's help. Then understand that some blessings come with instructions.. like march around the city seven times. I have had bird mites for 3 years. I have spent thousands on new carpeting, furniture, clothes, exterminators, cleaning products and insecticides. You all know the drill. There are 3 ways to beat these things. You can remove them from the environment, which is nearly impossible. You can mechanically remove them from your person, but they keep coming back. Or, you can make your body unattractive to them. My health has been seriously affected by years of little or no sleep because of these things. Here is what helped. I went to Dollar Tree to buy holiday supplies, aluminum foil, etc. While there, that still small voice that you feel sometimes told me to yet again try something new for the bird mites. I purchased Nature Measures fish oil. After taking the fish oil for one day the bird mites didn't like me any more. I can sleep before being totally exhausted for the first time in several years. Trust me, over the years I have tried all of the things you have. Some of them made me sick. Now that I can sleep I will again begin to attack them in my environment. Orange oil seems to work best but it can be very strong. I hope this helps someone. This has been a tremendous blessing that I felt I needed to share with others who are suffering with this nightmare.

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