What kills these bugs on the spot?

What kills these bugs on the spot?

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Since: Nov 09

Milford, PA

#1 Nov 28, 2009
Does, Lysol work, or alcohol, or what?
I've used windex, but I think that just holds them at bay for awhile because of the ammonia in it, but I'm not sure? I'm looking for something to put on my bedding, that will kill them on the spot, and not be toxic, or too toxic, I just can't keep washing the bedding, & remaking the bed every night, bad enough I bag, then wash my clothes, and put on fresh ones each day.
buggie

Rio Rancho, NM

#2 Nov 28, 2009
MikDee wrote:
Does, Lysol work, or alcohol, or what?
I've used windex, but I think that just holds them at bay for awhile because of the ammonia in it, but I'm not sure? I'm looking for something to put on my bedding, that will kill them on the spot, and not be toxic, or too toxic, I just can't keep washing the bedding, & remaking the bed every night, bad enough I bag, then wash my clothes, and put on fresh ones each day.
I've had some type of mite for 15 months and I wash all my clothes and bedding daily in hot hot water and Arm and Hammer powdered laundry detergent. I have a washing machine available now and can wash daily. Finally, I can hang my clothes or dry them on the line outdoors.
In the past, I ALWAYS plastic bagged my once worn bedding and clothes immediately, sprinkled borax in the bag when possible. You can bag things and wash once a week at the laundrymat so it's really not that big a deal.
Until recently, I ALWAYS dried everything on the hottest laundrymat dryer for TWO HOURS SOLID and double plastic bagged them immediately no touching anything, no contamination, no folding. I took cedarcide spray with me to the laundrymat and sprayed my arms and inside the clean plastic bags. I never reused bags.

I've been having really good results with regular baking soda. I wash and dry my hair and fluff dry baking soda in my hair. I also add it to my hair at night and sprinkle some on the freshly made bed. I would NEVER spray Windex on my bed. Yuck, and toxic. Try sprinkling baking soda. If anything is crawling, it kills it right away.
Vann from Tennessee

Henderson, TN

#3 Dec 12, 2009
MikDee,

I just received my shipment of "Best Yet" Cedarcide spray bottles & kit for $99. Shipping was VERY prompt
http://www.cedarcidestore.com/page/page/58051...
http://www.cedarcidestore.com/catalog/item/35...

It kills all bugs & mites on contact, and is naturally safe for all pets & humans. I spray it all over myself daily and all itching is GONE. Also leaves my skin silky smooth. It kills any male mites roaming around looking for a female. I suspect it might even kill mites in their molting pouches. For certain it will kill them as they leave their pouches to dig a new molting pouch. If males are killed off and prevented from finding new females, the plague will end when the last female dies, in about 1 month.

Big misconception.... there are no eggs outside the human body. ALL eggs are located inside burrows under the skin. As the eggs hatch, and the nymphs leave their burrows, or molting pouches they will be killed by cedarcide.

It is my theory that daily soaks + endless laundry washing is not needed and a waste of time & energy. Cedarcide spray the beds & humans every day will end the nightmare within 30 days.

It has a very strong cedar smell, but you quickly get used to it. I will be spraying the bedding & myself with cedarcide daily. If you have any pets, include them in the daily spraying.

Here is one of their testimonials:
As I read the testimonials I realized that it could have been me writing them as I identified with nearly every issue the different folks talked about. Several years ago I was told I picked up a wheat mite skin infestation in the Midwest. The creatures from hell is what I called them. I tried all of the cures recommended by friends, fools, family and doctors, including the prozac routine suggesting that the problem was all in my head. I even greased myself up with the toxic permethrin lotion the Doctor prescribed. I ended up having nervous convulsions and almost died. I had all but decided this horrible itching and crawling feeling is something I would have to live with the rest of my life. Not a nice thought. What I couldn't understand was why the mites did not affect anyone else, only me. My husband was not affected at all. You have no idea how often I prayed I could get this mite issue in my past. Then I spoke to you and you dumped cold water on all the numerous theories the Doctors and others had led me to believe. I realize now that the mites are good guys and are a intricate part of the human body. My problem had nothing to do with the Midwest or the wheat mite. Some folks are more reactive to mites which are in everyone's skin. When a body produces extra bacteria and that often happens from aging, stress or without any defined reason, the mites become aggressive, destroying that bacteria element. This creates high fecal matter and urine discharge from the mite which in turn creates the itchy crawly feeling as the dirt attempts to exit the skin. Your BEST YET product kills the epidermal bacteria which determines the mites behavior. I had no idea that Cedar Oil was a natural bactericide. For years I have suffered from Rosacea. Everything you say about the mite I now find is acknowledged by the Mayo studies related to this incurable disease. Today, because of your product, I no longer suffer from Rosacea or Mites. I don't know how to thank you Dr. Ben. I know I am preaching to the choir. I just want you to publish this writing on your website. I never want this treatment to be my best kept secret. Perhaps someday one of the pharmaceutical companies will see the error of their chemical dependency and promote one or more of your dynamic products as a alternative to the Snake Oil they insist on peddling to unsuspecting folks like I was. Thanks Again and Again Dr. Ben. Because of you, life is good.

Lillian McGovern.........Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

More testimonials:
http://www.cedarcidestore.com/page/page/46334...

Vann
Vann from Tennessee

Henderson, TN

#4 Dec 12, 2009
MikDee,

I just received my shipment of "Best Yet" Cedarcide spray bottles & kit for $99. Shipping was VERY prompt
http://www.cedarcidestore.com/page/page/58051...
http://www.cedarcidestore.com/catalog/item/35...

It kills all bugs & mites on contact, and is naturally safe for all pets & humans. I spray it all over myself daily and all itching is GONE. Also leaves my skin silky smooth. It kills any male mites roaming around looking for a female. I suspect it might even kill mites in their molting pouches. For certain it will kill them as they leave their pouches to dig a new molting pouch. If males are killed off and prevented from finding new females, the plague will end when the last female dies, in about 1 month.

Big misconception.... there are no eggs outside the human body. ALL eggs are located inside burrows under the skin. As the eggs hatch, and the nymphs leave their burrows, or molting pouches they will be killed by cedarcide.

It is my theory that daily soaks + endless laundry washing is not needed and a waste of time & energy. Cedarcide spray the beds & humans every day will end the nightmare within 30 days.

It has a very strong cedar smell, but you quickly get used to it. I will be spraying the bedding & myself with cedarcide daily. If you have any pets, include them in the daily spraying.

Testimonials here:
http://www.cedarcidestore.com/page/page/46334...

Vann

Since: Nov 09

Milford, PA

#5 Dec 12, 2009
Thanks buggie, & VANN, you've both been very informative. I am still trying different natural sources, eventually I may get the Cedarcide. My issue is I really don't know what kills them for sure. Cedarside? Baking soda? I've been trying alcohol on my bedding instead of Windex, as advised from one poster, I don't remember who? and I had a bad experience last night at 4:30am from that, I had taken a shower with Head&Shoulders blue bottle, which usually works great, but woke up feeling the crawling all over me, apparently whatever effect ithe alcohol had didn't last. I was too cold to get up, but eventually I did and sprayed my trusty Arrid Xtra dry on the bedding, then finally got back in a few minutes later, & got relief.
Vann from Tennessee

United States

#6 Dec 16, 2009
DE KILLS SCABIES, cheap and totally safe non toxic!
==========

Sam From Knoxville, "I surfed the message boards and found something that worked

immediately but the next day came back. I called the company that makes Fossil Dust (Human Grade Diatomaceous Earth) and they said it takes two days for the Dust shells to enter the scabies exoskeleton and dry them out. Dryness kills them because they can't starve to death. You can buy it at the local feed store or pet store: " consists of fossilized

remains of diatoms, a type of hard-shelled algae."
** DE Kills >>ALL<< mites, bedbugs, fleas, ticks, lice & is non-toxic on humans AND pets:DE Kills ALL mites: IDEAL to sprinkle in an around bed !
Complete details here:
http://www.earthworkshealth.com/

This is the PERFECT ANSWER to kill scabbies in and around bedding. Also mix it into your favorite skin cream to kill them on your skin.

Vann

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#7 Dec 19, 2009
Hiya Vann,

Which cedarcide did u use? I went to their website and there's a few..is it the Best Yet Kit - flea and bug exterminator that cost $99.95..??

And i don't mean to sound rude or offensive, and if i do come off as that, i do apologise. How long have you got it and have you got rid of them?
TSD

San Diego, CA

#8 Dec 19, 2009
I have had a lesion about the size of a quarter on my hand, two smaller ones on my wrists, and two on my calf since I was in Iraq in 2003. I have been to many doctors, including dermatologists over the years. None of them have found a way to treat the problem effectively.

This week it occurred to me to try ivermectin. This is not natural. So, the original poset might not be interested. It is the drug that they give to dogs for any sort of blood born parasite ranging from heartworms to hookworms. It is also extensively used by humans in Africa and Asia for river blindness and other ailments. It one of the widest used drugs in some parts of the world.

It is not FDA approved for scabies, but in studies it has been shown repeatedly that one dose is more effective and less toxic than permethrin. Two doses on a two week interval is recommended. It is also fairly cheap. I paid $15 for two doses, which would be six 6mg tablets for me.

It is dosed by weight: 200 micrograms (0.2 milligrams) per kilogram of body weight.

I took 18 mg of ivermectin two days ago. I am literally watching a lesion shrink noticeably, by the hour today. Every time I look at this area. Other lesions which were red lumps are now flat, and I can see the burrow tracks which have broken open. In addition, a burrow track has opened up on the bridge of my nose where the pad for my eyeglasses rests.

This stuff reaches every part of the body which has blood circulation. it is a neurotoxin, but does not cross the blood-brain barrier. If it did, then it would be toxic to mammals.

Just thought I would throw that out there. It stays in the system at toxic levels to parasites for about three days, which also happens to be about as long as a human scabie mite takes to die when it does not have a host. When a scabie mite lands on your body, it starts to burrow within about an hour.

But this is definitely not a "natural" treatment. However, it may be the least toxic overall, and the most effective one.
vann

Melrose Park, IL

#9 Dec 20, 2009
Sad101 wrote:
Hiya Vann,
Which cedarcide did u use? I went to their website and there's a few..is it the Best Yet Kit - flea and bug exterminator that cost $99.95..??
And i don't mean to sound rude or offensive, and if i do come off as that, i do apologise. How long have you got it and have you got rid of 1them?
Sad101,
I bought the $99.95 kit, and I received it promptly. When I noticed the itching was unusual about 1 month ago, I immediately got on the internet to research the subject. I did not begin any kind of treatment until I was certain what I had. I had scabies proven by the burrows under the skin.
I started my scabies treatment with the A&H detergent bathtub soak 3 times a week, sulfur soap + sulfur shampoo 3 times a week, and daily cedarcide spray. I also spray the bedding every morning. Within the past week, my itching has been greatly reduced, and my skin is clearing up beautifully.
I am going to add one more treatment... sprinkle Food Grade Diatominous Earth into and around my bedding.
It will likely take an entire month of treatment to kill off the last of these monsters, as it takes that much time for the last of the eggs to hatch in their burrows.
I am sharing all of my research with everyone. See this link:
http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/TSS...
Best of luck to all,
Vann

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#11 Dec 20, 2009
Vann,

Thanks so much for the information. I probably have to e-mail the people in cedarcide about international delivery...might take sometime and since its christmas..i think it would be good to leave it until after new year.:(

Have you thought about heavyduty PVC mattress cover? I ordered one where they specialise in bedding and was made to order. It has a zip and it covers the mattress. I think it is really good as its easier to clean...wake up, reach for the spray and spray away while laughing at the mites.

I am still waiting for the A&H detergent...:(
Thanks for the information...really help alot! And i hope i can share my experience once i know all are rid.
vann

Melrose Park, IL

#12 Dec 20, 2009
Sad101,
Yes did we put our box spring & mattress into a PVC we Zip-up cover. We also put all of our pillows into PVC zip up covers. However, we are still using traditional sheets and blankets, and we spray the sheets every morning, wash them once a week. If need be we will get more drastic with the bedding. But it is going so well now that I think that what we are doing is more than sufficient. I don't want to go to more extreme actions unless the situation demands it.

Best of luck to you and keep us informed. You might consider becoming a dealer for these products in England. Make your misery pay for itself.... ;-))

TSD,
Here are my notes on steam cleaning. I think it is a good idea... Please keep us informed on your steam cleaning experiment.

plzhelp says, "The steam cleaner i own is called G Pass, its excellent give alot of steam."

Vann
TSD

San Diego, CA

#13 Dec 20, 2009
I just browsed through the posts on steam cleaning, and the point was made that these critters hate dryness, and they love moisture. I live in a dry climate, whereas the person whose page I found who swears by her steam cleaner lives in the tropics.

I see that Oreck has something that they call a "dry" steam cleaner. That might be better than "wet" steam, as long as the temp is high enough.
Bill in Mich

United States

#14 Dec 20, 2009
Hi TSD ... Hero , Thanks .. You guys did a great job !
Just in case you run out iver or need a little extra help on the lesions:
There was a poster her called MM-M she had lesions for 3 years. She told me of the cure , I used it, it kills that bacteria. So does Betadine. She used it top of her head to toe& left it to dry till next shower & in the environ , it cured her , her is her post form the birdmite.org forum . Any one can join it , many have learned tips to cure the uncurable. MM-M calls herself Frito now. My user name is John Doe , my real name is Bill
Here is her post & the link to the mix explained , the mix is cheap & does not burn because the borax nuetralizes the peroxide. It cure cuts very very fast,
http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cur...
The mix:
2 tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster
16 oz peroxide (3%)
32 oz water.
mix it , and the borax nuetralizes the peroxide
From: John Doe <[email protected]>
Subj: FW:[birdmitesorg] Fw: Borax
-0800 (PST)
Size: 16k
----- Original Message -----
Subject:[birdmitesorg] Fw: Borax
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 2:50:18
From: fritolay66 <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected] om>
I have a reason for posting this, that will come.

For now, there is good info here. I have used this on myself and is what healed my first two craters of simmering hell on my arms way back when. I will remind you those lesions were on the order of 7cm long and 5 cm wide. Substitute human for dog. There is a great explanation of the usefulness of H202, vinegar, and borax. The actions of Borax can also be applied to the environment. This will also tell you on how Borax works to kill and also addresses toxicity issues. Also, remember, H202 is a penetrant and very effective.

Frito
..........
END OF Fritos letter
God bless you TSD,
Bill
TSD wrote:
I have had a lesion about the size of a quarter on my hand, two smaller ones on my wrists, and two on my calf since I was in Iraq in 2003..

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#15 Jan 1, 2010
Does any type of Borax will do or does it have to be 20 mule team brand??
Vann from Tennessee

United States

#16 Jan 22, 2010
I am just updating message 3 and 4 regarding the use of Cedarcide. We stopped using it because it was STINKO STINKO STINKO. My wife could not stand it, and neither could I. Even just spraying my arms which were severely bitten up, it stunk up the house. For the same reason I stopped using Neem Oil. If y'all can stand the smell, they will probably work extremely well. Lots of kudos for both on many of the message threads.

Vann

Since: Jan 10

Everett, WA

#17 Jan 22, 2010
TSD wrote:
I just browsed through the posts on steam cleaning, and the point was made that these critters hate dryness, and they love moisture. I live in a dry climate, whereas the person whose page I found who swears by her steam cleaner lives in the tropics.
I see that Oreck has something that they call a "dry" steam cleaner. That might be better than "wet" steam, as long as the temp is high enough.
I don't think it kills them.
One of the only websites I found info on for boiling said they needed to be in hot water at least 122F for 10 minutes. Another website from CDC stated very generally that boiling water will kill scabies. Boiling rate is 212 F

Steam can be much lower temperature than boiling point (212F )but how will you know how hot your steam is?) And if it is hot enough (212F) it is doubtful to assume that a few passes of a steamer would kill them.

Anything that you might want to steam(clothing) should boiled instead.
And anything that you cannot boil you should not steam I.E.The couch, bed mattress, car seat, ect.. All these type things rather should be covered with plastic.

I bought one a couple years ago and only ended up using it to freshen clothes that needed to be dry cleaned -_*

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