Scabies DOES go away!

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sjl

Dearborn, MI

#1 Feb 20, 2010
I told myself that if I ever got rid of scabies, I would post here to give people some peace of mind. First, if you have been diagnosed with scabies, DO NOT READ THESE FORUMS! I am serious. It will only make you go crazy; half the stuff on here is crap from people who have either already gone scabies-crazy or don't know what they're talking about.
Here's what happened to me:
I started getting itchy bumps in September. First time the doctor told me it was a viral rash that would go away on its own. A month later, he said it was folliculitis and gave me antibiotics. A few weeks later when it didn't go away, he gave me stronger antibiotics (not fun). I finally convinced him to treat me for scabies in case that's what it was.
Beginning in December, I did four applications of permethrin, each one week apart. For each of the first two times, I used half of the 60g tube. The last two times, I used a whole tube each time. I washed my bedding after each application, and all my clothes in hot water and dried on high heat.
But here's the kicker: YOU WILL STILL GET BUMPS EVEN WHEN YOU'RE CURED. There is actually medical research on this. You continue to get bumps for about eight weeks after treatment. This is an allergic reaction to the mites and eggs being pushed out of your body. The bumps may or may not itch, but it's not the same as scabies itching, and they usually go away quickly (i.e. by the next day).
Yes, I kept getting concerned that scabies was back, that I was not cured, but it has now been almost three months since I began treatment and I assure you, they are gone. No more itching, red bumps or anything. Don't despair, it will go away through normal treatment. You just have to be patient and realize that once you've done permethrin, you will still get bumps for awhile, but it's not scabies!
And stop reading these forums! Hope that helps.
Pokadot Patty

United States

#2 Feb 20, 2010
sjl wrote:
I told myself that if I ever got rid of scabies, I would post here to give people some peace of mind. First, if you have been diagnosed with scabies, DO NOT READ THESE FORUMS! I am serious. It will only make you go crazy; half the stuff on here is crap from people who have either already gone scabies-crazy or don't know what they're talking about.
Here's what happened to me:
I started getting itchy bumps in September. First time the doctor told me it was a viral rash that would go away on its own. A month later, he said it was folliculitis and gave me antibiotics. A few weeks later when it didn't go away, he gave me stronger antibiotics (not fun). I finally convinced him to treat me for scabies in case that's what it was.
Beginning in December, I did four applications of permethrin, each one week apart. For each of the first two times, I used half of the 60g tube. The last two times, I used a whole tube each time. I washed my bedding after each application, and all my clothes in hot water and dried on high heat.
But here's the kicker: YOU WILL STILL GET BUMPS EVEN WHEN YOU'RE CURED. There is actually medical research on this. You continue to get bumps for about eight weeks after treatment. This is an allergic reaction to the mites and eggs being pushed out of your body. The bumps may or may not itch, but it's not the same as scabies itching, and they usually go away quickly (i.e. by the next day).
Yes, I kept getting concerned that scabies was back, that I was not cured, but it has now been almost three months since I began treatment and I assure you, they are gone. No more itching, red bumps or anything. Don't despair, it will go away through normal treatment. You just have to be patient and realize that once you've done permethrin, you will still get bumps for awhile, but it's not scabies!
And stop reading these forums! Hope that helps.
It is so obvious that you have very limited experience with these critters.

There is a thread on post scabies rash (bumps)... written by people that have (just like you) been through they same thing as yourself.

There are people that have used the Perm and been reinfected due to their evironment being heavily contaminated (washing bed clothes alone will not get rid of them).

There are people that have them in their hair and scalp (bet you though they did not go there because that is what the CDC and Dr.s say....nobody told the mite).

This forum hasn't called your case of scabies delusional just because others that did not have them were cured by one treatment with Perm ! So do not infer that we are crazy.

There is a welth of good information on treatments and aids to combat this critter in the threads of this forum. Most have given relief to many people.

Your statements reflect your lack of experience.
So I forgive you,
Patty
DLL

United States

#3 Feb 20, 2010
i agree with th "DO NOT READ FORUMS"!!!! I had bee suffering with scabies since October and started researching online for methods to rid myself of this hell!! I tried EVERYTHING...bleach baths followed by immediately applying tea tree oil. Then I tried neem oil, more bleach baths, ear mite drops for my dog, alcohol, undilited bleach applications to my sores, clorox wipes, selsun blue treatments (which really burned me). I finally went to a doctor and received 2 tubes of peretherin 5%. I srtarted the the treatement and wam very hopefule. a majority of sufferers have in fact killed the mites and are simply experiencing post scabie symptons and possible follicilitus...or post scabies eczema. I seriously desensitized my skin and its simply trying to heal. I advise everybody, get the permetherin, follow the instructions and dont do ANYTHING else. Simply moisturize your skin with vitamin e lotion. DO NOT apply any other "home remedies" You will only do more damage. Sadly, Im a nursing student and I should have just folowed my gut instincts and not become so paranoid. Permetherin with dry out your skin and the tching you feel and the new bumps are simply dead mites and fecal matter. Post scabies can identically mimic *live* scabies. LET YOUR SKIN HEAL for 1 mos before goining overboard.
sjl

Dearborn, MI

#4 Feb 20, 2010
Pokadot Patty wrote:
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It is so obvious that you have very limited experience with these critters.
There is a thread on post scabies rash (bumps)... written by people that have (just like you) been through they same thing as yourself.
There are people that have used the Perm and been reinfected due to their evironment being heavily contaminated (washing bed clothes alone will not get rid of them).
There are people that have them in their hair and scalp (bet you though they did not go there because that is what the CDC and Dr.s say....nobody told the mite).
This forum hasn't called your case of scabies delusional just because others that did not have them were cured by one treatment with Perm ! So do not infer that we are crazy.
There is a welth of good information on treatments and aids to combat this critter in the threads of this forum. Most have given relief to many people.
Your statements reflect your lack of experience.
So I forgive you,
Patty
Patty, are you a doctor? Or just a self-styled "expert"? I will have to doubt your medical expertise until you let us know your qualifications. It seems to me that the people who can't get rid of scabies are the ones who keep posting on these forums, thus continually feeding their paranoia. Just looking at this forum makes me feel itchy. And if you have something happening on your scalp, you may want to get a lice treatment.
dll

United States

#5 Feb 21, 2010
I agree with you sjl. Ive read many of pokadot patties post in other forums and it has become obvious that she is a ring leader for inciting paranoia in others...so as to have others feel with her in her torment. More than likely, she has not been profesionally treated and bases her "research" on internet forums...which, by the way, are for the most part largly inconclusive and dead wrong. Maybe pokadot potty (no pun intended) should concentrate on her part time walmart career rather than medical expert. Until she has proven her credentials, shelled out the money for medical school, and seeked out professional treatment for her condition (s), then she needs to stop passing out medical advice at the expense of other people health and well being. Best of luck to you sjl!!

Since: Feb 10

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#6 Feb 21, 2010
For the most part scabies is scabies, and is easily cured. My nephew's family had scabies, which was easily cured with permethrin by following their doctor's instructions. So I had no doubts that I would be able to cure my family's scabies easily. An inconvenience at worst. Having four elementary aged children, things like this are expected. Couldn't be too much worse then the preschool bout of head lice. So I was baffled when after months of following a dermatologist's instructions, I continued to decline. That's when I started searching the forums.

Many of the posters here have been failed by the medical profession, and have turned to these forums in desperation. I suffered with a mite problem for over a year, which was only cured through dogged persistence and research. I am not delusional. I am very practical and down to earth, and have never imagined an illness in my life.

For those of you who don't believe that there are more kinds of mites that attack humans that just sarcoptes scabeiei, or that some varieties are extremely difficult to eradicate, count yourself lucky. I would have been there with you two years ago.

My final word is this: If you have scabies, follow your doctor's instructions. 99% of you will be cured with no problems. Then you can laugh at us crazy scabies forum people. Best wishes.
IZOCONFUSED

Port Huron, MI

#7 Feb 22, 2010
I agree with Itchygirl and PATTY!
You people who posted have NOT had this for "3" years!!! Itchygirl and Patty have had this for several years as well.
If I experienced what you did as well, I would agree with you. However, I was misdiagnosed - so here I am - doing research, talking to others going thru the same problem, etc. Learning new things to try, etc.
If you are CURED, WHY DID YOU COME TO THIS FORUM? JUST TO CAUSE HAVOC AND CALL US DELUSIONAL LIKE THE DR'S LIKE TO DO?
Well, I can SHOW YOU DELUSIONAL ALL OVER MY BODY!!!
Are you feeling creepy, crawly and delusional now, yourself? I SURE HOPE SO!!!!
Again, why did you come here to this forum if you are CURED??????
One more question; At what point should we QUIT trying to find a cure? Our bodies are covered from head to toe, mine diagnosed by an Infectious Disease Dr who is sending me to a University Hospital. So, is THAT delusional?
You people who come onto these forums and PREACH need to stay away!
So, did Vann send you here? Ha, ha, ha!! Nice try!
IZO
IZOCONFUSED

Port Huron, MI

#8 Feb 22, 2010
One more comment.
"Scabies does go away".
Your english is wrong!
If you are to post, why don't you get your english language correct.
Your post should have read:
"Scabies Do Go Away"
Thanks!
IZO
Have the BEST day of your life!
sjl

Dearborn, MI

#9 Feb 22, 2010
IZOCONFUSED wrote:
I agree with Itchygirl and PATTY!
You people who posted have NOT had this for "3" years!!! Itchygirl and Patty have had this for several years as well.
If I experienced what you did as well, I would agree with you. However, I was misdiagnosed - so here I am - doing research, talking to others going thru the same problem, etc. Learning new things to try, etc.
If you are CURED, WHY DID YOU COME TO THIS FORUM? JUST TO CAUSE HAVOC AND CALL US DELUSIONAL LIKE THE DR'S LIKE TO DO?
Well, I can SHOW YOU DELUSIONAL ALL OVER MY BODY!!!
Are you feeling creepy, crawly and delusional now, yourself? I SURE HOPE SO!!!!
Again, why did you come here to this forum if you are CURED??????
One more question; At what point should we QUIT trying to find a cure? Our bodies are covered from head to toe, mine diagnosed by an Infectious Disease Dr who is sending me to a University Hospital. So, is THAT delusional?
You people who come onto these forums and PREACH need to stay away!
So, did Vann send you here? Ha, ha, ha!! Nice try!
IZO
The point was to warn people that these forums are filled with information that is misleading or completely wrong. It was in the hopes that someone who comes to this forum, like I did, will not go crazy with despair, as I almost did, reading all these posts that seem like you will have scabies forever. And so that they know that, despite what you say, there are already cures for scabies that work.

That you insinuate that you "sure hope" I still have scabies proves to me that you are indeed delusional, and also not very compassionate. It also makes me doubt that you've actually had scabies if you wish it on another person. And you're certainly not someone from whom I want to be getting medical information.
Bitey

Portland, OR

#10 Feb 22, 2010
Hey we are all grouchy due to lack of sleep and spending all day cleaning and washing laundry. But lets not take it out on each other. I think SCABIES is both a NOUN and a CONDITION so both ways of saying it could be OK.

But when we start putting each other down, well that goes too far. We are all (most of us anyway) suffering.

So lets just share and if we cannot say anything nice or supportive then lets not say it at all!usetet
Joe

Hollywood, FL

#11 Mar 11, 2010
sjl wrote:
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The point was to warn people that these forums are filled with information that is misleading or completely wrong. It was in the hopes that someone who comes to this forum, like I did, will not go crazy with despair, as I almost did, reading all these posts that seem like you will have scabies forever. And so that they know that, despite what you say, there are already cures for scabies that work.
That you insinuate that you "sure hope" I still have scabies proves to me that you are indeed delusional, and also not very compassionate. It also makes me doubt that you've actually had scabies if you wish it on another person. And you're certainly not someone from whom I want to be getting medical information.
Izo is not delusional. She has a serious medical condition, in addition to scabies, that I would wish on no one. If anything, Izo is getting along quite well here and learning alot and she is well on her way of being cured of scabies.
Joe

Hollywood, FL

#12 Mar 11, 2010
sjl wrote:
<quoted text>
The point was to warn people that these forums are filled with information that is misleading or completely wrong. It was in the hopes that someone who comes to this forum, like I did, will not go crazy with despair, as I almost did, reading all these posts that seem like you will have scabies forever. And so that they know that, despite what you say, there are already cures for scabies that work.
That you insinuate that you "sure hope" I still have scabies proves to me that you are indeed delusional, and also not very compassionate. It also makes me doubt that you've actually had scabies if you wish it on another person. And you're certainly not someone from whom I want to be getting medical information.
Alot of the problems lie in the fact that not everyone here has the regular vanilla variety of scabies. That in itself makes it difficult to obtain a cure. If you want medical help, please see your derm or an infectious disease specialist, or your regular MD, emergency room, or clinic. There is so much information on this forum that it isn't funny. The cure for scabies has been all laid out in all the threads here. Read the thread called Scabies is Highly Contagious. It has over 7,000 posts in it. You will find the cure there.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#13 Mar 11, 2010
dll wrote:
I agree with you sjl. Ive read many of pokadot patties post in other forums and it has become obvious that she is a ring leader for inciting paranoia in others...so as to have others feel with her in her torment. More than likely, she has not been profesionally treated and bases her "research" on internet forums...which, by the way, are for the most part largly inconclusive and dead wrong. Maybe pokadot potty (no pun intended) should concentrate on her part time walmart career rather than medical expert. Until she has proven her credentials, shelled out the money for medical school, and seeked out professional treatment for her condition (s), then she needs to stop passing out medical advice at the expense of other people health and well being. Best of luck to you sjl!!
I only know Patty from this forum and from what I've read she does her utmost to allay people'e fears and wildest imaginings and does not hand out medical advice which in any way could be harmful to anyone nor have I ever seen her spam people with crap.

With all respect to yourself and sjl perhaps if you looked at legit medical sites (BMJ , Dermazed.net ,the Lancet) and Google scholar you might find that treatment failure and medical ignorance of mite infections of ALL types is very common for many and various reasons.
buggie

Albuquerque, NM

#14 Mar 11, 2010
This forum helped me the most. I didn't have traditional scabies, but mites are mites. If someone can't be a rational adult and is horrified and scared of this or any other forum, then be a rational adult and choose not to come here.

I went through a 1 and a 1/2 year nightmare with skinmites and this forum was a lifeline of good information and caring people. I can always choose not to use a product that is suggested. It's one of the freedoms of living in a free country.

Permethrin DID NOT WORK FOR ME. PERIOD. And it has a high failure rate in UK studies. I used it as prescribed two or three times in the first week. It did NOTHING. ZIP. NADA. I naturally turned to doctors and nurses in the beginning and was WOEFULLY disappointed in them. And expecting to get all my information from an egotistical Western medicine god who only has two minutes per appointment is nuts. I like having information at my fingertips and the internet is a great resource. Why be scared of it? Knowledge is power.

Ivermectin orally, sulfur cream, Best Yet by Cedarcide, Arm and Hammer powdered laundry detergent, Borax are some of the products that helped me the most.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#15 Mar 11, 2010
I wholeheartedly agree with you buggie particularly about the caring side of things and the humour too.

My MD has supported me throughout my 8 year (!) fight with what I think were 2 seperate mite infections.
I could never eradicate them from my environment but now I've moved and chucked all my textiles bar a couple of changes of clothes ,I'm a lot better...plus lots of iver and benzyl/tea-tree...There's no supplier of Cedarcide in the UK ,I'd have used if I could have so I bleached, sprayed Raid and sealed each room in my flat one by one and that has massively reduced the nips and crawling.....
I'd never have known any of this if I'd not found this forum.
Joe

Hollywood, FL

#16 Mar 11, 2010
I just realized that I replied to some old February messages here because Delphine linked us to this thread. MY BAD. oops...

lol....

and I got you guys started, too.

lol....

we're okay... lol.....

Delphine!! don't you say a word now. you be quiet.
lol...
buggie

Albuquerque, NM

#17 Mar 11, 2010
benG1 wrote:
I wholeheartedly agree with you buggie particularly about the caring side of things and the humour too.
My MD has supported me throughout my 8 year (!) fight with what I think were 2 seperate mite infections.
I could never eradicate them from my environment but now I've moved and chucked all my textiles bar a couple of changes of clothes ,I'm a lot better...plus lots of iver and benzyl/tea-tree...There's no supplier of Cedarcide in the UK ,I'd have used if I could have so I bleached, sprayed Raid and sealed each room in my flat one by one and that has massively reduced the nips and crawling.....
I'd never have known any of this if I'd not found this forum.
Have you tried menthol crystals BenG1? It seems a lot better than spraying poisons. Raid is awful. I the Raid bombs for a horrible flea infestation and it did nothing at all. I saw a great photo of how to use the menthol crystals and also info on where to buy them but don't remember where I saw them. Can someone post those links for BenG1 if you know where they are?
buggie

Albuquerque, NM

#18 Mar 11, 2010
Joe wrote:
Delphine!! don't you say a word now. you be quiet.
lol...
Joe, you and I are in the doghouse because we wuz naughty to Delphine. I hope she forgives us for talking back. You were the worst if I remember correctly. Toilet mouth.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#19 Mar 11, 2010
No I haven't . I was wondering what you do with them...yeah I know Raid's pretty toxic but I used a mask and sealed the rooms ...not ideal I know but I really need to sort this out once and for all even if it means agent orange LOL.
I don't think I can kill them off but I can make my environment less hospitable to them I hope either through menthol crystals ,electronic insect killers or maybe even anti mosquito coil things.
I wonder if other menthol-related things may act as a repellent like Tiger Balm or vapour rub..perhaps even low level things like burning incense may help, it's all worth trying.
Yes ,the links would be helpful.. thanks buggie.
buggie

Albuquerque, NM

#20 Mar 11, 2010
benG1 wrote:
No I haven't . I was wondering what you do with them...yeah I know Raid's pretty toxic but I used a mask and sealed the rooms ...not ideal I know but I really need to sort this out once and for all even if it means agent orange LOL.
I don't think I can kill them off but I can make my environment less hospitable to them I hope either through menthol crystals ,electronic insect killers or maybe even anti mosquito coil things.
I wonder if other menthol-related things may act as a repellent like Tiger Balm or vapour rub..perhaps even low level things like burning incense may help, it's all worth trying.
Yes ,the links would be helpful.. thanks buggie.
Those other things you mentioned don't help, trust me, don't waste your money.
The menthol crystals are put into a bowl and burned. The vapors waft through the house. There was a photo of a plastic garbage can/bin with a plank on the top and the menthol cup placed on top of that.
Can you get sterifab there?

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