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Georgetown, MD

#21 Jul 24, 2010
itchygirl wrote:
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Yes, same symptoms. I thought it was resistant scabies that I couldn't kill. I treated with just about everything anyone ever mentioned on this site for months and only got temporary relief, if that. Perm allowed me to sleep without getting bit, but as soon as it was off of me the bites returned. I slept in sulfur and eucarin for months. Did over the top laundry and bedding treatments as well. I was badly afflicted, my husband got occasional bites, and our kids were fine after an initial rash and treatment on a couple of them. Several regular guests in our house never felt a thing. Figured out they were in the environment as well as on me when my husband stayed at my sister's house in another state and gave them to her with no contact other than a hug. He had treated with perm 2x before leaving on his trip, and had been in a hotel for a week with no symptoms. We figured it was off of his suitcase. My sister experienced the same thing I had; the bugs loved her but not her family. I am finally getting relief after a year by doing heavy environmental treatments as well as treating my body. I think I am almost done. I sleep well most nights. I'm not sure what kind of mites these things are, but they are not visible, and I haven't been able to trap one to look at in my pocket scope. They leave tiny 'pinprick' bites. I had an initial rash, but it cleared up after a couple of months, leaving just the bites.
I was browsing around looking for information about scabies for my Brother's Grandson and came across your issues with them. There is a new disease called Morgellons with all of the same symptoms and more. I am tryng to help to decide wether he has scabies or the other disease. So you did get rid of them? He has been to the doctors several times a year for several years and they still come back. He is five years old and suffering much. I am thinking he might have Morgellons instead of scabies. Glad for you and your family that you had success treating them finally.
Tip

Netherlands

#22 Jul 24, 2010
Fact could be, that what your little Grandson suffers from, can be diagnosed by any GP or specialist.

As well scabies as "morgellons" are about the same in this particular case.
Quite likely what he suffers from is a highly virulent agent, one that most seems to associate with a staphylococcus aureus, or a staphylococcus epidermidis, or a so called gram negative.

The attending medic will have to be asked to start a culture and have susceptibility testing performed to define the identity of the offending agent(s)

The sample can be taken from an active lesion, a pustule, or from a swab from the inside of the nose.

Has this not yet been performed?
Why is this not performed?
Does the attending medic avoid being conclusive?

There is nothing new under the sun.
Make sure you document as much as possible and make things moving!

After a sample has been taken:

Select on using white linen, wash hot. Colors can be washed with adding a non bleach based antiseptic to the wash cycle. Routinely decontaminate toilet, toilet seat, door handles ( hard surfaces) computer key boards, shower curtain, toy's and water taps.

Sodium hypochlorite is probably the best available choice, or use any high percentage alcohol based fluid.

Do not share towels, or teeth brushes.
Use a mouth rinse like Listerine.

Perform regular hand washings with using classic ALKALINE rich soap (bars).

Note: A surgical scrub starts at the top of your fingers and ends above the elbow. To initiate hand/feet decontamination you can can consider to use a long series 1/10 dilution of Sodium hypochlorite in water.
Take 30 minute bleach bath's with one cup household bleach. every day, as long as thought necessary.

Staph infections have traditionally been treated with antibiotics, but bleach baths can also kill the microbes that cause infection.
http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatm ...

WebMD reports that "the results were so dramatic that researchers stopped the three-month study early so that all the children could benefit from the bleach baths."
http://www.examiner.com/x-6258-Huntsville-Nat ...

Consider cleaning your bath toys in this same manner a few times a year--just because they are floating in the bath, doesn't mean they aren't gathering germs too.
http://parenting.families.com/blog/do-you-cle ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Tip

Netherlands

#23 Jul 24, 2010
For children: keep the percentage of a solution low.

>Do not scrub, but use a sponge.
>trim nails.
>view a few video's on you tube, read a few extra articles about the subject.
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Netherlands

#24 Jul 24, 2010
http://wbztv.com/video/... @wbz.dayport.com
Joe

Hollywood, FL

#25 Jul 24, 2010
He probably has a resistant strain of mite (same as Morgellons). Has the doctor tried ivermectin yet on him? The child has to weigh 35 pounds to take iver. This should help if he, indeed, has a mite. Along with the ivermectin, a good topical like permethrin or benzyl benzoate should be applied. ivermectin is an anti-parasitic and is being used off label for scabies.
Alex

Yakima, WA

#26 Jul 26, 2010
With me I notice Perm works in some places but not others, but even where it "works, it's an ongoing battle. The minute I stop applying it the bugs come back. For me I get the best effect from Perm around the eyeglass area, including, but not limited to, eyebrows, ears, and temples.
For the rest of my face I bought Ennoai hemp lotion from Aeonbotanica.com . I think it has sulfur and neem in it which in my case keeps them from using my face as a breeding ground. Before I started using it they were mating all over my face, especially over my eyebrows.
hatemites

Alden, NY

#27 Sep 2, 2010
We are dealing with this now almost three weeks and I'm going crazy over it.
One thing I found that the scabies hate is dimethicone.
Monistat makes a gel called Soothing care anti-chafing gel that is dimethicone.
When I put it on my knees and elbows the burrows disappeared overnight.
When I had my elbow scraped, the doctor said whatever I used on it had them running, that all she saw were "particles".
Having said that, it's not a cure. I suppose if you used it head to toe, it may be, I don't know. You can find it in the feminine product aisle next to Monistat at Walmart or Target for $5.99 a tube. Small tube. It's in a purple box. I think it would take at least two tubes to cover an entire adult body.

I have used Permethrin twice in the last two weeks and I feel they are back or never left. I've sanitized the entire house, treated other family members and the cat.
Here I sit at 4am, woken up by the itching. I noticed my husband scratching in bed tonight as well. Bet he now has it too.

I think I'll try the head to toe dimethicone gel tomorrow night on all of us.
Extremely frustrated

Oxford, MI

#28 Sep 4, 2010
Itchy Scratchy girl NY wrote:
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Hi ITchygirl Can U PLEASE be more specific when u say u did a lot of heavy environmental treatments as well as body treatments. What KIND I would LOVE to Know. I'm Desperately Seeking Advice
I found a 10% Permethrin concentrated flea and tick dip at the farm tractor and supply store. It is what they use on live stock I guess. I have been mixing it w water in a spray bottle.. and spraying daily everywhere in my home... Its prob. not the most safe method.. but at this point I dont care.. I am just trying to kill whatever is causing this itchy rash that I cant seem to get rid of. We even covered our furniture w Plastic, and sheets and wash the sheets daily. I definately think it is helping, its worth a try... I will post in a couple weeks, and let you know the outcome
hatemites

Rochester, NY

#29 Sep 17, 2010
They are gone gone gone.

Monistat chafing gel head to toe did the trick.
I haven't cleaned in a couple of days or changed the sheets. They are GONE.
Went to the doctor she said they were long gone. That the first prem treatment most likely killed them and I was just having side effects from the cream.
I feel like I can start living again.
tiredof scabies

United States

#30 Jan 19, 2011
hatemites wrote:
They are gone gone gone.
Monistat chafing gel head to toe did the trick.
I haven't cleaned in a couple of days or changed the sheets. They are GONE.
Went to the doctor she said they were long gone. That the first prem treatment most likely killed them and I was just having side effects from the cream.
I feel like I can start living again.
Im wondering when u used to chafing gel if u could tell me step by step on what u did to get rid of the scabies?
scabiesgone

United States

#31 Dec 4, 2011
tiredof scabies wrote:
<quoted text>Im wondering when u used to chafing gel if u could tell me step by step on what u did to get rid of the scabies?
I found LICE MD. It is a big bottle of Dimethicone treatment for lice. It has the consistency of baby oil. I applied it to my family, not on the head, and it was 10 dollars. You can treat a family of four with it!! Good value! I had them sleep overnight with it on, and shower in the am.
Sarah

Los Angeles, CA

#32 Feb 9, 2012
I can recommend a reputable pharmacy (Permethrin)- http://www.generic-medshop.com/catalog/Skinca... Good price and quality.
soconfused

La Marque, TX

#33 Mar 29, 2012
scabiesgone wrote:
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I found LICE MD. It is a big bottle of Dimethicone treatment for lice. It has the consistency of baby oil. I applied it to my family, not on the head, and it was 10 dollars. You can treat a family of four with it!! Good value! I had them sleep overnight with it on, and shower in the am.


The doctor Im going to refuses to check me for scabies. He's checked for everything BUT. I've taken it upon myself to Trey myself. I heard that lice medicine works? I chose the LICEMD because its supposed to be non-toxic. So does it for sure work? I've heard allll different types of thongs. I just want thilese things GONE!
Scabe

Orlando, FL

#34 Apr 1, 2012
soconfused wrote:
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The doctor Im going to refuses to check me for scabies. He's checked for everything BUT. I've taken it upon myself to Trey myself. I heard that lice medicine works? I chose the LICEMD because its supposed to be non-toxic. So does it for sure work? I've heard allll different types of thongs. I just want thilese things GONE!
No, lice treatment will not work. While it's the same chemical, it's a different strength. See a different doctor that will treat you!
gbf

United States

#36 Nov 28, 2012
By the time you realize you have scabies your house will be infested.....
First I advise you to get an appointment with a dermatologist most doctors don't really understand what it takes to get rid of scabies.
Pile up all sheets, pillow cases and and all bedding you can wash....if you can't wash it then bag it for weeks
Stuffed animals , and any items that you have touch ed should also be bagged such as couch pillows.
Then I applied permethin to all family members....this is important whether or not they have symptoms.
Vacuum all rooms wipe down everything and if you can get permehin spray and spray everything you can....btw permethin is toxic to cats....throw out vacuum bag
Cover all mattresses with plastic and put pillows in dryer for at least 40 min.and cover them to...
I called vet and they suggested a dip for our dog but I decided against it and washed him in sulfer soap, Don't use green tea oil on a dog....we ordered sulfur soap on internet.
Clean clean clean.....and repeat in 10 days...
This is my husbands 6 th treatment and for me and my kids our 3 rd and hopefully our last....my husband just went to dermatologist yesterday and when they scraped his back they only found a few eggs....
I am so tried of cleaning and we have washed our bedding everyday for a month now....
The worst part of it all is I can't hug my granddaughter
If you continue to have them after months and months
you need to figure out what the source is
I am sure we got our this summer when we stayed at several hotels
Mark

San Jose, CA

#37 Jun 11, 2013
I am having the same experience as others. The permethrin seems to paralyze, but not kill. I used permethrin overnight and woke up with no itching for the first time in months, but by the afternoon, the pin prick sensation and itching returned, in exactly the same spots. I am so desperate I am going to keep the permethrin on all the time, screw the standard treatment.

Since: Jun 13

New York, NY

#38 Jun 11, 2013
Mark wrote:
I am having the same experience as others. The permethrin seems to paralyze, but not kill. I used permethrin overnight and woke up with no itching for the first time in months, but by the afternoon, the pin prick sensation and itching returned, in exactly the same spots. I am so desperate I am going to keep the permethrin on all the time, screw the standard treatment.
It is perfectly normal for itching to continue for multiple weeks after a successful permethrin treatment. The permethrin itself is very harsh and can cause skin reactions. And even if scabies have been killed, they remain in your skin for some time, which causes a "post-scabies" itch effect which can be worse than actually having scabies. I'd recommending using caution in overexposing yourself to permethrin. As hard as it is, the best course of action to determine if you're cured is to have the will power to wait it out for a month, even though it's going to itch during that time.
raya manawari

Philippines

#39 Jun 13, 2013
we already found the real scabies cure...
i tend to share these information for those people who suffered because of expensive medication that's just waste of money and effort... even poor people can be cured using this natural without any side-effects way of treating scabies.
we have been suffering from scabies for almost 3 months. at first, when i saw it on my eldest son... i thought that it's just an ordinary rash. it fully took my atention when me and my kids filled with these rashes. so i went to see the doctor, she first prescribe us diprogenta (betametasone gentamicin)... after it didn't work for almost a month of application, we came back to seek her advice again. she diagnosed us with scabies... she then again prescribed permethrin and antibiotics for the big blisters on the genital areas of my sons... and told us to disinfect or house and change and boil beddings and clothes...
i've done this for almost 2 months... this is draining all our money, energy and time... but in the end it didn't work...
when i came to visit my nanny in their house, her mother told us that they have also experience this kind of itching and rashes, and was diagnosed also as scabies. she told me that she also tried the doctors prescription to cure her family but nothing happens... but when she tried the traditional way of curing scabies using coconut oil (grated and squezzed coconut milk boiled in a pan)... it all do the magic.
after taking a bath in the morning and before going to bed after taking a bath she applied coconut oil all over their body. this should be done regulary to prevent the scabies from multiplying..
it only took 3 weeks to totally get rid of scabies... in some experiences it took only 1 week or a month...but in our experience it lasted for almost a month...

this cure was proven by many suppressed outbreaks of scabies in our country
Vertical

Rochester, NY

#41 Nov 16, 2013
Yes to your last answer. The first treatment of scabies (5% permathrin all over body and all night long including spouse) did nothing (even though I bought new underwear and bed sheets) and I started developing new papules within four days. And long burrow marks. I have just treated myself and my spouse again and this time we've washed and bleached all our clothes, vacuumed the house and applied lysol to surfaces. So we'll see. If this doesn't do it, then I strongly suspect that scabies are becoming permathrin resistant.
Becoming Scabies Educated wrote:
So far I figure I may have permethrin resistant scabies; I've tried it twice--I did human RX lotion 5% for about 20 hours, and then also tried the 1/2 livestock 10% mixed with sesame oil (one blogger said Sesame oil is a pbo of sorts).
In both cases (plus also with lice shampoos)it seems to paralyze the scabies--perhaps even killing off some (much?) of the population?... When I say "paralyze" I say that because at first it's such a relief and the bites stop, the scittering bugs stop scittering... But then after I wash off permethrin within hours they come right back!(back to life from the paralysis? Or just new ones hatching?--that's hard for me to believe--I don't have Norwegian and have only had scabies for 3 months Plus I've done Ivermectin (horse)every 4 days since Sept 1 (so for 12 days) so I can't imagine I have that many new eggs hatching...)(And while some may be reinfection from environment, they come back in all the same places-right away!--so I don't think it all could be reinfection...)
Furthermore I can spot treat "itching" with permethrin and it also "works" until I wash it off... And with spot treating they tend to "flee" the area some and attack nearby...
Has anyone else felt only my kind of TEMPORARY relief from permethrin?
Letsendthisthing

New York, NY

#42 Jan 6, 2014
scabiesgone wrote:
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I found LICE MD. It is a big bottle of Dimethicone treatment for lice. It has the consistency of baby oil. I applied it to my family, not on the head, and it was 10 dollars. You can treat a family of four with it!! Good value! I had them sleep overnight with it on, and shower in the am.
Please tell!! Did this work?? Thx!

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