Borax rash- now what??

Borax rash- now what??

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Since: Jan 08

Chicago, Il

#1 Feb 12, 2008
Hi all,
Hoping someone can help me. I was thinking that I was giving myself a rash with the use of borax, which I put in laundry, carpet, couch, and wash floors with mixture of borax & bleach. I did a load of laundry w/o borax and the rash calmed down. Now, as some of you know, I got a steroid shot, so I attributed the rash subsiding to that, but still had the borax thing in the back of my mind. Yesterday was 2 weeks since the shot- had a follow up visit with the derm- what a nightmare- and in an twist of fate worthy of the finest Hitchock novel, rash looked great while I was there and throughout the day got progressively worse.
Could be a couple things- I did stop using the sulfur (pomada) over the weekend to give my skin a break, but, did spot treat with TTO & neem. The only other thing is putting on clothes washed with borax, and that I have been wiping down my air bed with borax/bleach solution.(I do put a sheet on it, but also, washed in borax) Last night I wiped the mattress with lysol wipes & alcohol instead.
Not knowing exactly why the rash is so much worse, if it is borax, what can I do about my laundry? Rinsing a 2nd time is not a good option for me as I live in an apt. and have to pay for each load individually. Is there anything else I can put in the wash?? Help!!!
Thanks in advance, guys.
alhatesitchen

Oak Harbor, WA

#2 Feb 12, 2008
Borax can cause rashes if you use it enough. Only thing I did was switched detergents and washed in hot water. Thats all you really can do. Borax I hear can cause contact dermetitus (Spell?) Also spot treating with Straight TTO can cause this as well if you use it a lot.

Since: Jan 08

Chicago, Il

#3 Feb 12, 2008
alhatesitchen wrote:
Borax can cause rashes if you use it enough. Only thing I did was switched detergents and washed in hot water. Thats all you really can do. Borax I hear can cause contact dermetitus (Spell?) Also spot treating with Straight TTO can cause this as well if you use it a lot.
Thanks, Al- I just don't want to do anything wrong at this point and I know that borax in the laundry is a huge step in the fight. At this point I'm only assuming it is causing the flare up of the rash but it seems logical, espeically since it wasn't there when I washed w/o it. I have super sensitive skin so I get contact dermatitis from lots of things, even from my own hair touching my face sometimes! TTO is great but I think it can cause an exzema like reaction if not careful.
I am going back on my sulfur regimen tonight. Will continue with it for the rest of the week. I'm going to leave the borax in the carpets and couch, but just wipe down my air bed with lysol wipes and alcohol for a few days- hopefully that will be enough...
alhatesitchen

Oak Harbor, WA

#4 Feb 12, 2008
I cant take this wrote:
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Thanks, Al- I just don't want to do anything wrong at this point and I know that borax in the laundry is a huge step in the fight. At this point I'm only assuming it is causing the flare up of the rash but it seems logical, espeically since it wasn't there when I washed w/o it. I have super sensitive skin so I get contact dermatitis from lots of things, even from my own hair touching my face sometimes! TTO is great but I think it can cause an exzema like reaction if not careful.
I am going back on my sulfur regimen tonight. Will continue with it for the rest of the week. I'm going to leave the borax in the carpets and couch, but just wipe down my air bed with lysol wipes and alcohol for a few days- hopefully that will be enough...
Anytime I cant take this
just make sure that you keep up the good fight. The key in my recovery is always having something on at all times. For me it was sulfer at all times. I know my skin is very sensitive due to scabies. I used to have tough skin but this is not the case anymore. Good luck in the Fight!
Scabies3

Vero Beach, FL

#5 Feb 12, 2008
alhatesitchen wrote:
Borax can cause rashes if you use it enough. Only thing I did was switched detergents and washed in hot water. Thats all you really can do. Borax I hear can cause contact dermetitus (Spell?) Also spot treating with Straight TTO can cause this as well if you use it a lot.
You can boil your clothes and then wash them. That's a for sure kill.
Scabies3

Vero Beach, FL

#6 Feb 12, 2008
Rita on the birdmitesorg yahoo group says she completely submerges her clothes in water every night. She keeps weight on them to completely submerge them. She says this has been her trick of gettig the mites out of her clothes. But the clothes have to be completely submerged under water all night long.

My 21 quart pot at walmart was only about $10, and it has helped me tremendously; that is, when i finally made up my mind that i was going to boil them. yeah, it's a lot of work. But everything about scabies is a lot of work.

There is no quick fix for scabies.
alhatesitchen

Oak Harbor, WA

#7 Feb 12, 2008
Scabies3 wrote:
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You can boil your clothes and then wash them. That's a for sure kill.
Thats just extra work.. I personally dried my clothes first and then was in the washing machine. Boiling is a sure kill for sure dude.haha.
Scabies3

Vero Beach, FL

#8 Feb 12, 2008
alhatesitchen wrote:
<quoted text>Thats just extra work.. I personally dried my clothes first and then was in the washing machine. Boiling is a sure kill for sure dude.haha.
Al. The dryer doesn't always work, and sometimes the wash doesn't get the mites out, either, that's why I stress boiling. Yeah, it's extra work, but necessary extra work. for sure dude.

Since: Jan 08

Chicago, Il

#9 Feb 13, 2008
alhatesitchen wrote:
<quoted text>Anytime I cant take this
just make sure that you keep up the good fight. The key in my recovery is always having something on at all times. For me it was sulfer at all times. I know my skin is very sensitive due to scabies. I used to have tough skin but this is not the case anymore. Good luck in the Fight!
Hey Al- Just wanted to say it is so encouraging to hear that you had good results with the sulfur. I have been using the pomada de azufre (10%) for about 2 weeks now. Shower at night, apply neck to feet, and leave on till next night's shower. The biting/crawling seem to slow down tremendously when I do this, with the exception of last night, which, not sure it was biting as much as burning, as the rash had flared so much. In any event, I will keep on keepin on; gosh, it's just so odd b/c I go back and forth between thinking I can beat this to thinking things will never change. Last night as I fell asleep I just repeated, Please God, help me, have mercy on me, over and over again.
I appreciate your insight and your encouragement, Al!!

Since: Jan 08

Chicago, Il

#10 Feb 13, 2008
Scabies3 wrote:
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You can boil your clothes and then wash them. That's a for sure kill.
Hi S3-
Walmart is becoming a great place for me to find items to help in my fight, I tell ya. I can't imagine boiling my clothes, though- doesn't it ruin them? Guess not if you've been doing it regularly. Hmm. Oh, I tried to email you last night but my computer gave me some weird message,(on my end, I'm sure, it's happened before) so will try again. Thought you'd like to hear of my derm appt.- it's pure comedy.
Thanks again for your tips- they are helpful!
Scabies3

Deerfield Beach, FL

#11 Feb 13, 2008
I cant take this wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi S3-
Walmart is becoming a great place for me to find items to help in my fight, I tell ya. I can't imagine boiling my clothes, though- doesn't it ruin them? Guess not if you've been doing it regularly. Hmm. Oh, I tried to email you last night but my computer gave me some weird message,(on my end, I'm sure, it's happened before) so will try again. Thought you'd like to hear of my derm appt.- it's pure comedy.
Thanks again for your tips- they are helpful!
The boiling is not a big deal, really. Again, if you feel a certain item is giving you problems, just put it in a pot and boil it. you don't have to boil long, just enough to bring the water to a boil and turn it off and let it sit there for a little while. It is a sure kill.
alhatesitchen

Oak Harbor, WA

#12 Feb 13, 2008
I cant take this wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Al- Just wanted to say it is so encouraging to hear that you had good results with the sulfur. I have been using the pomada de azufre (10%) for about 2 weeks now. Shower at night, apply neck to feet, and leave on till next night's shower. The biting/crawling seem to slow down tremendously when I do this, with the exception of last night, which, not sure it was biting as much as burning, as the rash had flared so much. In any event, I will keep on keepin on; gosh, it's just so odd b/c I go back and forth between thinking I can beat this to thinking things will never change. Last night as I fell asleep I just repeated, Please God, help me, have mercy on me, over and over again.
I appreciate your insight and your encouragement, Al!!
I cant take this,

Hang in there as I used to pray so hard about getting rid of this junk.. I prayed the same thing. Have mercy on me and so forth. Using sulfer is a slow kill and eventually the mites will die off. In some cases it might take longer then usual but you have to wait it out with the mites. The last thing I remembered right before I was done with the battle was for me I broke out in really bad rashes and thought I will never beat this. Two weeks after that I had no more bumps and such. Have hope because this does take awhile and you have to remember you are waiting for these things to die off and its a long process and eventually you will win the war against the mites!! Have faith and do what you do..

Al

Since: Jan 08

Chicago, Il

#13 Feb 13, 2008
alhatesitchen wrote:
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I cant take this,
Hang in there as I used to pray so hard about getting rid of this junk.. I prayed the same thing. Have mercy on me and so forth. Using sulfer is a slow kill and eventually the mites will die off. In some cases it might take longer then usual but you have to wait it out with the mites. The last thing I remembered right before I was done with the battle was for me I broke out in really bad rashes and thought I will never beat this. Two weeks after that I had no more bumps and such. Have hope because this does take awhile and you have to remember you are waiting for these things to die off and its a long process and eventually you will win the war against the mites!! Have faith and do what you do..
Al
Thank you so much Al. I don't have to tell you or anyone else that the mental/emotional toll this takes on a person is probably worse than the physical. I am really trying to think rationally, as it seems to be getting worse on my abdomen/chest/throat but other areas are the same. I have no real explanation for that. I guess I am blessed that I have no rash (or extremely little and quite transient) on my arms and legs so for all outward appearances I look fine. Blessing and a curse, perhaps?
My dermatologist insists I am not infested with anything, and he did give a plausible explanation for the rash on my stomach, but, he says it is exzema, and I personally have never heard of exzema that spreads like a rash. I sometimes get tempted to believe him, just so I can think some type of meds will just get rid of it all together. But, there's the singular/double tiny hard marks on my neck and spine. They have no rash appearance, but cause a heck of alot of itching! I have a few 'pimple' like marks on my chest that have a localized histamine rash around them. And my throat just has a plain histamine rash appearance.
If any of it all looked the same, I'd feel confident in what I have. At this point, is it exzema (doubtful), scabies (not typical if it is), bird/rodent mites (Lord I hope not but no visible mites and I think those you can see). Am starting to wonder if it isn't fungal. I do have alot of mold in my bathroom, and had to have the ceiling ripped out in there a year and a half ago due to leaking ceiling over the tub. Also, less than a year ago, had to have part of my ceiling replaced in my living room as the upstair neighbor's pipes burst and water was pouring in.
So, as you can see, I am battling somewhat of an unknown, yet tenacious enemy.
Sorry for rambling on- am on a roller coaster of emotions this week due to the worsening of the rash. Again, I thank you for your wisdom, kindness and encouragement, Al. This forum and it's members are very helpful.
alhatesitchen

Oak Harbor, WA

#14 Feb 13, 2008
I cant take this,

I know what you are going through. Just be tough and keep the cleaning up and laundry and just used that sulfer.. Oh by the way I used a strong sulfer mix of 50/50. 10% just takes too long. Dont not miss a day of treatment!
I cant take this wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you so much Al. I don't have to tell you or anyone else that the mental/emotional toll this takes on a person is probably worse than the physical. I am really trying to think rationally, as it seems to be getting worse on my abdomen/chest/throat but other areas are the same. I have no real explanation for that. I guess I am blessed that I have no rash (or extremely little and quite transient) on my arms and legs so for all outward appearances I look fine. Blessing and a curse, perhaps?
My dermatologist insists I am not infested with anything, and he did give a plausible explanation for the rash on my stomach, but, he says it is exzema, and I personally have never heard of exzema that spreads like a rash. I sometimes get tempted to believe him, just so I can think some type of meds will just get rid of it all together. But, there's the singular/double tiny hard marks on my neck and spine. They have no rash appearance, but cause a heck of alot of itching! I have a few 'pimple' like marks on my chest that have a localized histamine rash around them. And my throat just has a plain histamine rash appearance.
If any of it all looked the same, I'd feel confident in what I have. At this point, is it exzema (doubtful), scabies (not typical if it is), bird/rodent mites (Lord I hope not but no visible mites and I think those you can see). Am starting to wonder if it isn't fungal. I do have alot of mold in my bathroom, and had to have the ceiling ripped out in there a year and a half ago due to leaking ceiling over the tub. Also, less than a year ago, had to have part of my ceiling replaced in my living room as the upstair neighbor's pipes burst and water was pouring in.
So, as you can see, I am battling somewhat of an unknown, yet tenacious enemy.
Sorry for rambling on- am on a roller coaster of emotions this week due to the worsening of the rash. Again, I thank you for your wisdom, kindness and encouragement, Al. This forum and it's members are very helpful.

Since: Jan 08

Chicago, Il

#15 Feb 14, 2008
alhatesitchen wrote:
I cant take this,
I know what you are going through. Just be tough and keep the cleaning up and laundry and just used that sulfer.. Oh by the way I used a strong sulfer mix of 50/50. 10% just takes too long. Dont not miss a day of treatment!
<quoted text>
Thanks, Al. 50/50, wow! Well right now I am using the pomada, so can't really change the percentage unless I go the route of msm or sublimed sulfur. I did find the Bye Bye Blemish that I had read a post about awhile back, just by chance, at Walgreens. Good for spot treating and double whammying(?). I do so much laundry my family makes fun of me. I clean alot, but always feel I could do more.... Well, feeling a bit more optomistic today. Thanks again Al!
Welty

AOL

#16 Feb 14, 2008
I realized on a chart I printed up that most mites live in your hands and wrists where I never have yet had a rash! And another page that stresses that rashes often do not coincide with the mites! I figure that they like to live in your hands where it is easy to shed off to live another day, while you're treating with perm etc,. I went to a uniform store and bought a couple of pairs of white stretch band gloves and I wear them underneath a pair of boxed vinyl gloves to work at the computer. This keeps my hands comfy and not too moist, the plain vinyl was a mini-sauna for my hands. Anyway, I wear them for doing laundery and for my computer. Like Scabies3, I always get my new bites from my keyboard as I also work here, so it was major. But the band gloves under the plastic gloves feel pretty comfy and dry. It helps a lot. My underneath band gloves I microwave for 30 seconds a few times a day, and I hope to be exploding some of the mites I'd be shedding. I also microwave my socks for 30 seconds in the A.M. and now wear Crocs all day long. I'm stressing hands and feet. I am also wondering how many mites you shed from your hands in bed at night when they're active. I have no bumps, but right now I have a peculiar itch in the bottom heel area of the soles of my right foot which started just before hearing Sratches deal on wearing sox which I was doing, so I bought the Crocs washable plastic clogs and have retired my shoes and will mic my sox for 30 secs every a.m. before putting them on., Now it's official, I'm a nerd! I totally feel like one.
Scabieswar

Grafton, NH

#17 Mar 18, 2012
I started spraying myself with salt water and it seems to really help. I also stopped using borax. I was getting a rash from it too!

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#18 Apr 4, 2012
I use a cup of vinegar or more...in my rinse water...I don't have hot water for my washer...so I add amonia (colored clothes) in the wash & let the clothes, sheets, sit overnight..using bleech in the whites 1 cup per load.. The vinegar I have found helps get the excess borax out. hth
Igor

Buffalo, NY

#19 Jul 20, 2013
Do not soak in a bath of borax and hydrogen peroxide to treat scabies. It does not not work and now I have a red skin rash! Stay away from Borax.
Bertha

Buffalo, NY

#20 Jul 20, 2013
Igor wrote:
Do not soak in a bath of borax and hydrogen peroxide to treat scabies. It does not not work and now I have a red skin rash! Stay away from Borax.
Igor ...you need to eat more garlic. Good Luck!

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