Post Scabies Itch Syndrome

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PostScabiesSuffe rer

Mount Vernon, WA

#1 Mar 3, 2012
Some people develop post scabies syndrome, which causes itching for up to 4 weeks, or even for months. The cause is an allergic response. Some people just have a more sensitive immune system than others, which is why some get the post scabies itch while others do not. Just like, I'm allergic to cats and my husband isn't.

There are 2 schools of thought for what causes this post scabies itch. There is the thought that it is a reaction to the remains left behind by the dead scabies and eggs. Another thought is that the permethrin cream causes an allergic reaction. Both probably contribute to the problem. I am a person who is allergic to many environmental agents, so I can certainly understand why I'd have a reaction to the dead scabies/eggs and/or the permethrin cream used to treat scabies. After all, permethrin cream is a pesticide! If you sprayed Raid bug killer on your skin, don't you think you'd get an allergic reaction? Though permethrin cream is safe for use on humans, it is still just bug killing pesticide!

My kids brought home scabies from school. My entire family was treated. Then, about 2 weeks later, we were all treated again because I suspected scabies reinfestation. I am the only one of us who got the post scabies itch. It is different from live scabies infection in a few ways. First of all, I am able to take benadryl and get some relief. Also I am able to sleep at night. Sleep was absolutely impossible while I had live mites. The itch was too intense. Another difference is that this itch/rash comes and goes. With the itchy rash, I have a feeling like I am being stung by something. Being a Registered Nurse, I read, in detail, the prescribing information for the permethrin and stinging is a listed side affect. My skin is also very dry.

If you suspect that you still have active mites living under the skin, your doctor can perform a test. It is simply a scraping of the skin to look for mites under a microscope. If no live mites are found, chances are you have post scabies syndrome. Also, contrary to what some people have posted, permethrin 5% cream DOES kill the mites and their eggs. This is also found in the prescribing literature for permethrin 5% cream. In some cases of poor immune system, improper treatment, or severe infestation, more than one application of the cream may be needed. However, if you keep treating and retreating yourself and it is post scabies syndrome, you will just make your misery last longer as your skin will become more and more irritated and your body will continue to make histamine, which is your immune response to anything that your body sees as a foreign substance that needs to be eliminated.

One more thing that I have seen over and over is the fear of passing, or getting, scabies from or to your dog or cat. This is NOT possible because there are different sub-species of mites that affect humans versus animals. Even if a human mite gets on your animal and bites it, it will die on its own without completing it's life cycle because it can only survive on it's natural host, which is the human. The same is true for mites which use your dog as it's natural host, it can not survive or reproduce on a human. If you don't believe this, call your local vet. He or she will tell you the same.

If you do suspect, or have some very understandable post scabies paranoia about still have these nasty little creatures living in your skin, have your doctor perform the scraping test. Please don't continue treating yourself with all these creams and medications if you don't have active live mites. Remember, though considered safe, all medications have potential adverse affects, some can be life threatening!

Some things that are helping my post scabies syndrome are Benadryl oral caplets, Benadryl cream or hydrocortisone cream, keeping skin moist with hydrating lotion (I use Eucerin Cream), Aveeno Oatmeal Bath, and calamine lotion.
Help

Melbourne, Australia

#2 Jun 11, 2012
Hi I treated myself with scabies yesterday though I haven't had any symptoms yet but i did it because a family member who I see regularly has them and I got told to treat myself but after I have put on the cream I started to get the itches and I feel like I'm getting bitten. Is this scabies or could it be an allergic reaction to the cream? Im getting booked into the doctors but I can't call today because they are closed due to a public holiday
Ryan

Thunder Bay, Canada

#3 Jun 12, 2012
The cream can give you a tingly itchy feeling for a few days after treatment this is just the chemical in your skin cause these reactions. If the itching continues after a few days then you have cause for alarm.

Source: http://ScabiesHelpNow.com
post scabies itching

Sacramento, CA

#4 Jun 24, 2012
I used permethrin 5% cream to treat my scabies a couple of months ago. I noticed that i had continued to itch around a small area on my stomach and other parts of my body. Knowing that the cream can cause itchiness, I left it alone for a while but the pain had gotten worse. There were a tingling feeling, along with burning and itching, and sometimes strong needle pricking sensations. I've used hydrocortisone cream and have taken Benadryl. It feels like sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. it has been about four months now. The burning and prickling sensations have decreased but it's still very itchy and has started developing a numb sensation on the area. There has been no development of rashes or any form or insect bites on the area.

I'm really starting to worry because all of this started after the application of the cream to get rid of the mites.

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Ryan

Thunder Bay, Canada

#6 Jul 10, 2012
Schools are known to be one of the most common places to pick up scabies and also places such as hospitals and retirement homes. Post scabies can actually occur for years if the person was infected long enough, this is why scabies is referred to as the "7 year itch". But in most cases when diagnosed early you can get over scabies itching within a week or two of successful scabies treatment.

Source: http://ScabiesHelpNow.com
truthiness

Denver, CO

#7 Jul 10, 2012
Ryan wrote:
Schools are known to be one of the most common places to pick up scabies and also places such as hospitals and retirement homes. Post scabies can actually occur for years if the person was infected long enough, this is why scabies is referred to as the "7 year itch". But in most cases when diagnosed early you can get over scabies itching within a week or two of successful scabies treatment.
Source: http://ScabiesHelpNow.com
Ryan is a dermasil salesman , The link goes to a phony dermasil sponsored forum and the product doesn't work.
Alexander

San Francisco, CA

#8 Jul 10, 2012
PostScabiesSufferer wrote:
Some people develop post scabies syndrome, which causes itching for up to 4 weeks, or even for months. The cause is an allergic response. Some people just have a more sensitive immune system than others, which is why some get the post scabies itch while others do not. Just like, I'm allergic to cats and my husband isn't.
I really appreciate your post. You are a voice of reason. It breaks my heart to read some of these posts with people putting all sorts of crazy toxic crap on their bodies because they think every little pin prick is a bite. It's not, it's just their skin's reaction to either the feces of the mites (dead mites) or whatever therapy they've chosen. I know the paranoia that is present post treatment. There's no way for us to know if it's active or post scabies but you have to stop treatment and let yourself heal.
hinx

Hickory, NC

#9 Jul 10, 2012
The question is should I do the second treatment?
itchingaway

Cabot, AR

#10 Jul 13, 2012
hinx,

Yes.

It can take multiple series of treatments to beat this.
Ltpostscabies

Los Angeles, CA

#11 Nov 25, 2012
I was treated with permectrin cream and took 2 doses of oral medication. The kind that is 5 little pills that you take as one treatment. It is now 4 months after I was diagnosed as scabies free and I still get major itch attacks, and my paranoia kicks in. I panic that it is reoccurring. It comes and goes and it really scares me, because I suffered for nearly 2 months with it. The mental anguish and fear that comes over me is indescribable . I am going to doctor in a few days for a skin scraping especially due to the fact that I also have food allergies and am diabetic. I welcome comments and your thoughts.
scaredexhausteda ndITCHY

United States

#12 Nov 26, 2012
I treated with permethrin 5% cream 6 days ago. My 3 children are healing nicely, I on the otherhand didn't really have very many itcy spots before treatment. Just a few itch bumps between my toes and a few on my legs. My son's was all over his body. Since treatment I now have a rash under both of my arms, it speads by the day and itches like crazy. It has gone from a dime sized itchy patch to covering my entire armpit, the side of my breasts and is now going up my arm!! Is this the after effects of permethrin or am I super reinfected? Should I retreat my family and myself? My dryer stopped working yesterday I'm sure due to the excessive drying (the dryer basically stays on all day to kill any mites that may be in clothing and/or bedding) So, how do I treat washable items without a dryer? Please someone help me and my children, I am very scared, I've read a lot of horror stories on this little mite that is living and breeding on us. Any advice will be helpful, I had never heard of scabies until my son brought it home from school. All I know is what I've read on the internet and its scaring me to death! My children and I have stayed inside and I have been cleaning and cleaning. Please help me and my family get our lives back. Thank you in advance.
sara

Houston, TX

#13 Nov 27, 2012
scaredexhaustedandITCHY wrote:
I treated with permethrin 5% cream 6 days ago. My 3 children are healing nicely, I on the otherhand didn't really have very many itcy spots before treatment. Just a few itch bumps between my toes and a few on my legs. My son's was all over his body. Since treatment I now have a rash under both of my arms, it speads by the day and itches like crazy. It has gone from a dime sized itchy patch to covering my entire armpit, the side of my breasts and is now going up my arm!! Is this the after effects of permethrin or am I super reinfected? Should I retreat my family and myself? My dryer stopped working yesterday I'm sure due to the excessive drying (the dryer basically stays on all day to kill any mites that may be in clothing and/or bedding) So, how do I treat washable items without a dryer? Please someone help me and my children, I am very scared, I've read a lot of horror stories on this little mite that is living and breeding on us. Any advice will be helpful, I had never heard of scabies until my son brought it home from school. All I know is what I've read on the internet and its scaring me to death! My children and I have stayed inside and I have been cleaning and cleaning. Please help me and my family get our lives back. Thank you in advance.
I feel your pain!!!! I have also recently been infected with this terrible little mite. My 2 year old daughter and I had an itchy rash for a little over a week before we went to the doctor and figured out what it was. I like you never even heard of it and as disgusted by the thought of this little thing creeping around under mine and my daughters skin. I never really had any marks on me but I was itching in certain places. Turns out it infected not just my family but my sister's family as well. After our first treatment my daughter, my husband (who never showed any symptoms) and myself were all much more itchy then before the application. 1 week later we did the application, the washing, and the cleaning again. It has been 5 days since that and I am more itchy now then I have ever been. I am trying ti be patient and let my skin heal but this has turned into torture. The not knowing if its a reaction to the medicine or if its in fact the mites again is the worst part. It kills me to see my daughter itch and ask me "are the buggies gone?" My sister did her second treatment a few days before I did and she is feeling better today then she has since it all started so I have hope, and now I am trying to pass this hope on to you. Good luck!
Beat girl

Australia

#14 Dec 12, 2012
I did my scabies treatment a week ago and am still itchy, should I go to my doctor again?
Luis Jane

Plainevaux, Belgium

#15 Jan 9, 2013
Ion silver cream , or ion silver powder for info; go to t Bob Beck protocol
Garlic is a good insect killer and might be doing a good thing as well.
Thank you for sending this message around dear scabie-fighters , much love
and hopefully science will pick up and integrate this model as it is an overall good medicine

For more information, feel free and be welcome to my facebook, thank you

~ Luis Jane

P.S. In my opinion, and in this time, mainly, the purpose of the presents of scabies is to teach the Earth's people about the respect to bear for the limit of their descendants amount, namely; the overpopulation.

Next to the black rat, the domestic animals like cats and dogs are the number one spreaders of plague and disease brought over to humans, indeed.
The worst feeling ever

Monroeville, PA

#16 Jan 14, 2013
My skin has to be very sensitive because its been about 4 months the bumps come and go all over my body. The itching on the scalp has calmed down tremendouslybut i still am very itchy on the inside of my thighs and my back is very itchy also. I went to a dermatologist and she told me to let my body heal because the cream is very strong and that is most likely the reason for this terrible itch. I just want to share because if I didnt go to the dermatologist I would be freaking out to this day about this defistating life crisis! I hope this helps but I'm still itchy after 4 months since the cream has been used. I have not found anything to help the itch except for ice baths.
Scabies paranoia

Chicago, IL

#17 Jan 16, 2013
Hi any advice? I feel like i can't get rid of scabies. I used premthrin 5% 4 times over a month and felt better for the most part. The doctor initially told me not to use it on my face. Turns out she was wrong and within the 4 weeks my face and ears became extremely itchy. when I went in for a follow up the other DR said I should have used it on my face!! Total waste of time. She prescribed me Ivermectin and I have taken the two doses -7days apart. I cant tell if I still have something or if my ears and face are just super irritated. I also then put two application of permethrin on my face. Can anything survive after all this medicine? I have had zero contact with any possibly infected people. I am worried it is in my hair too. Of course I cleaned everything.
I have a couple little bumps still and my face is very itchy and irritated. What can I put in my hair? also can anything survive such over-medication? help? It has been 6 weeks.
AmandaMA

Brooklyn, NY

#18 Jan 22, 2013
I work at a drs office and contracted scabies from a patient. One night I couldn't sleep and I was waking up with 'itchy shocks' that kept waking me up from face to feet. I told the best doctor at my job and he immediately wrote me a rx for permetherin.
After 4 treatments and 2 weeks of laundry I was feeling better. Now, a month later, I'm itchy again out of no where! I believe it's post scabies. I showed the same dr at work my skin, he told me to try Aquaphor ointment. It helps to relieve dry skin. This is quite a brutal winter, so I really hope that it's only dry skin and not reinfestation.
I just showered and applied the ointment and I do feel more calm with little itches here and there- sometimes intense, sometimes subtle.
My boyfriend had scabies the same time I did, we sleep in the same bed every night and he's not itchy... I think I'm just a little more sensitive.
Fingers crossed that I'm not reinfested! Good luck everyone!!
infestedandinves ted

Ballwin, MO

#19 Jan 22, 2013
I'm currently battling scabies also. I worked at a school. I kept getting it over and over again. I did my forth treatment last night. Finally I left my job this week. I had been itching for several months. Had been misdiagnosed several times and went to a new doctor and was told it was scabies. After this treatment I'm super itchy. I'm going back to the doc Thursday for a follow up. I'm taking some time off from working period to see If I can finally heal up. I've used the natural methods too. We've cleaned everything in our whole house, every article of clothing, our cars. I'm going to try to stay out of my car for a few days since I'm no longer working to make sure nothing is lurking in there. My Husband and I have probably spent close to 600.00 this past month on this alone. I go through a bar of sulfur soap, a bottle of tea tree oil, and a bottle of lotion a week. Sometimes two. And I'm washing all my sheets and linens-and anything I wear as soon as I wake up. We are going through a bottle of detergent like every three days. We use those little nix lice bedding sprays. I got a bottle on Sunday. It's almost out. We spray our couch everytime I get on it and off it and I spray my bedding I can't wash-with it. I've already bought a brand new bedspread and It's too pretty to wash. I feel for you. My husband never got it. It's so odd. He's now been sleeping in the guest room for the past 30 days. I don't blame him. I wouldn't wish this on anyone. Hopefully I'll get another atarax prescription that really helped with my itching. My poor parents were only around me one day-I stayed over Christmas eve. Then I went to the doctor because I was in so much pain-and he told me scabies. My mom had her whole house professionally cleaned and all the carpets steamed-and she still got it. These little bugs are relentless! I was doing super with the natural methods-then went back to my job. Been back for about two weeks and I was in pain again. I'm glad I've left. I cannot continue to get re-infected. I've cleaned everything and treated by the book. I'm at my wits end. I have immune issues to. Scerloderma and scabies really isn't mixing well. Good luck and hopefully your post scabies will heal up. I'm hoping when I go thurs they will tell me I have no more mites. I just want my normal life back.LOL. A life where I don't have to clean like a crazy woman, not have to wash my linens daily, itch and finally be able to sleep with my spouse.
new2this

Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic

#20 Jan 29, 2013
yes those who insist that this is all post scabies should not be so sure, if they are wrong they are doing harm.

Of course the doctors are jut more sure of their knowledge and therefore stubborn when faced with what they dont really understand-- very established cases of mites.

First of all is the assertion I just read in the post by the RN correct, that permethrin 5 % kills the eggs? I dont think so.

Doctors have been the least helpful to me in my situation I am sorry to say. And yet taking a fully alternative route has risks as well.

After 7 ivermection treatments I can say that eash time fewer mites were expelled from my body -- this latest one just expelled them from my thumb joint though teatree and other smilar oils --just treid cinnamon and rosemary-- seem to expel stuff though I am not fully sure its mites any more but its sharp as grains of glass.

Itching was never the main complaint though of course its part of the discomfort. FOr me those shocks and the waking around feeling on scalp and elsewhere are even more freaky. It is possibly that some of this is the nerves acting up affected by the mites as well as chamicals but I certainly felt these sensations before treatment.

I would say not to worry to be be aware. Its hard to keep treating after months but we must
itchy in denver

Denver, CO

#21 Jan 30, 2013
From my experience post scabies lasted 4 weeks after my last Ivermectin treatment. A good indicator is if you wake up during sleep by the itch. Scratching leads to bacteria infections that can last much longer. Make sure and keep your nails filed and try not to scratch. You have to give your skin time to heal. I waited 3 or 4 weeks after treatments to see if it worked, when I got re-infested or the treatment failed I would always get woken up by the itch.

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