Dr. Nase - Can Treat Rosacea Patients - FACT

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Johnathan

Laval, Canada

#1 Nov 20, 2011
If you don't have a MEDICAL PHD from Medical School and TWO POST-DOCTORAL FELLOWSHIPS from RESIDENCY PROGRAMS from Medical School then you CANNOT possibly have a factual comment about this subject.

Dr. Nase was trained so that he could develop drugs for our diseases and treat patients in clinical studies (in his area of expertise). Medical PhD's are the ones that develop, test and formulate 90% of all our prescription treatments.... not MD's!

Medical PhD's can treat patients. Period. Fact.

PhD's trained at Medical School and who received Medical Post Doctoral Fellow ships can treat patients in their areas of expertise.

This is from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) regarding Medical PhD's which was on Dr. Nase's site. So, whatever Peter Waters states about Dr. Nase or treating patients means less than zero because the NIH sets the standards for Medicine and Bio-Medicine.:

Medical scientist jobs require a Ph.D. degree in a bio-medicine. Biological scientists who do biomedical research are usually called medical scientists. Medical scientists work on basic research into normal biological systems to understand the causes of and to discover treatment for disease and other health problems. Medical scientists try to identify changes in a cell, chromosome, or even gene that signal the development of medical problems, such as different types of cancer. After identifying structures of or changes in organisms that provide clues to health problems, medical scientists work on the treatment of problems. For example, a medical scientist involved in cancer research may formulate a combination of drugs that will lessen the effects of the disease.

Medical Scientist Can Administer Drugs and Treat Patients:

"Medical scientists with a medical degree can administer these drugs to patients in clinical trials, monitor their reactions, and observe the results. The medical scientist will return to the laboratory to examine the results and, if necessary, adjust the dosage levels to reduce negative side effects or to try to induce even better results. In addition to using basic research to develop treatments for health problems, medical scientists attempt to discover ways to prevent health problems from developing, such as affirming the link between smoking and increased risk of lung cancer, or between alcoholism and liver disease."

Biological and medical scientists usually work regular hours in offices or laboratories and usually are not exposed to unsafe or unhealthy conditions. Those who work with dangerous organisms or toxic substances in the laboratory must follow strict safety procedures to avoid contamination. Medical scientists also spend time working in clinics and hospitals administering drugs and treatments to patients in clinical trials.

In addition to formal education, medical scientists usually spend several years in a postdoctoral position before they apply for permanent jobs. Medical PhD's are responsible for the development and patient treatment of most prescription drugs brought to market.

-- Peter Waters -- Please try to delete sentences, contort sentences, distort sentences, transform truth into lies -- BUT THIS IS FROM THE NIH AND YOU HAVE NO WIGGLE ROOM WITH THE NIH AND DR NASES MEDICAL TRAINING. HAVE FUN WITH YOUR POSTS THAT WILL CERTAINLY FOLLOW BUT THEY WILL BE PURE B.S. AND NOT BASED ON FACT. THE NIH RULES AND REGULATIONS ARE FACT AND INDISPUTABLE.

SORRY PETEY. SEE YA IN THE FUNNY PAGES!
Marla

Miami, FL

#2 Nov 20, 2011
Johnathan wrote:
If you don't have a MEDICAL PHD from Medical School and TWO POST-DOCTORAL FELLOWSHIPS from RESIDENCY PROGRAMS from Medical School then you CANNOT possibly have a factual comment about this subject.
Dr. Nase was trained so that he could develop drugs for our diseases and treat patients in clinical studies (in his area of expertise). Medical PhD's are the ones that develop, test and formulate 90% of all our prescription treatments.... not MD's!
Medical PhD's can treat patients. Period. Fact.
PhD's trained at Medical School and who received Medical Post Doctoral Fellow ships can treat patients in their areas of expertise.
This is from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) regarding Medical PhD's which was on Dr. Nase's site. So, whatever Peter Waters states about Dr. Nase or treating patients means less than zero because the NIH sets the standards for Medicine and Bio-Medicine.:
Medical scientist jobs require a Ph.D. degree in a bio-medicine. Biological scientists who do biomedical research are usually called medical scientists. Medical scientists work on basic research into normal biological systems to understand the causes of and to discover treatment for disease and other health problems. Medical scientists try to identify changes in a cell, chromosome, or even gene that signal the development of medical problems, such as different types of cancer. After identifying structures of or changes in organisms that provide clues to health problems, medical scientists work on the treatment of problems. For example, a medical scientist involved in cancer research may formulate a combination of drugs that will lessen the effects of the disease.
Medical Scientist Can Administer Drugs and Treat Patients:
"Medical scientists with a medical degree can administer these drugs to patients in clinical trials, monitor their reactions, and observe the results. The medical scientist will return to the laboratory to examine the results and, if necessary, adjust the dosage levels to reduce negative side effects or to try to induce even better results. In addition to using basic research to develop treatments for health problems, medical scientists attempt to discover ways to prevent health problems from developing, such as affirming the link between smoking and increased risk of lung cancer, or between alcoholism and liver disease."
Biological and medical scientists usually work regular hours in offices or laboratories and usually are not exposed to unsafe or unhealthy conditions. Those who work with dangerous organisms or toxic substances in the laboratory must follow strict safety procedures to avoid contamination. Medical scientists also spend time working in clinics and hospitals administering drugs and treatments to patients in clinical trials.
In addition to formal education, medical scientists usually spend several years in a postdoctoral position before they apply for permanent jobs. Medical PhD's are responsible for the development and patient treatment of most prescription drugs brought to market.
-- Peter Waters -- Please try to delete sentences, contort sentences, distort sentences, transform truth into lies -- BUT THIS IS FROM THE NIH AND YOU HAVE NO WIGGLE ROOM WITH THE NIH AND DR NASES MEDICAL TRAINING. HAVE FUN WITH YOUR POSTS THAT WILL CERTAINLY FOLLOW BUT THEY WILL BE PURE B.S. AND NOT BASED ON FACT. THE NIH RULES AND REGULATIONS ARE FACT AND INDISPUTABLE.
SORRY PETEY. SEE YA IN THE FUNNY PAGES!
FANTASTIC POST JOHN!.

I can't wait to see Peter Water's flurry of posts to this thread!

I hope Peter takes his anti-psych meds to keep him from going GONZO.

So, when Peter Waters lies on subsequent posts, then he is basically saying that the NIH and American Medical Association are liars!

I can't wait to see that. Please show how crazy you are Peter.

Pleaaase post "that Dr. Nase can't treat patients in his expertise and clinical trials. Pleaaase call the NIH and AMA liars in front of the world
Bruce F

Scranton, PA

#3 Nov 21, 2011
Johnathan wrote:
If you don't have a MEDICAL PHD from Medical School and TWO POST-DOCTORAL FELLOWSHIPS from RESIDENCY PROGRAMS from Medical School then you CANNOT possibly have a factual comment about this subject.
Dr. Nase was trained so that he could develop drugs for our diseases and treat patients in clinical studies (in his area of expertise). Medical PhD's are the ones that develop, test and formulate 90% of all our prescription treatments.... not MD's!
Medical PhD's can treat patients. Period. Fact.
PhD's trained at Medical School and who received Medical Post Doctoral Fellow ships can treat patients in their areas of expertise.
This is from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) regarding Medical PhD's which was on Dr. Nase's site. So, whatever Peter Waters states about Dr. Nase or treating patients means less than zero because the NIH sets the standards for Medicine and Bio-Medicine.:
Medical scientist jobs require a Ph.D. degree in a bio-medicine. Biological scientists who do biomedical research are usually called medical scientists. Medical scientists work on basic research into normal biological systems to understand the causes of and to discover treatment for disease and other health problems. Medical scientists try to identify changes in a cell, chromosome, or even gene that signal the development of medical problems, such as different types of cancer. After identifying structures of or changes in organisms that provide clues to health problems, medical scientists work on the treatment of problems. For example, a medical scientist involved in cancer research may formulate a combination of drugs that will lessen the effects of the disease.
Medical Scientist Can Administer Drugs and Treat Patients:
"Medical scientists with a medical degree can administer these drugs to patients in clinical trials, monitor their reactions, and observe the results. The medical scientist will return to the laboratory to examine the results and, if necessary, adjust the dosage levels to reduce negative side effects or to try to induce even better results. In addition to using basic research to develop treatments for health problems, medical scientists attempt to discover ways to prevent health problems from developing, such as affirming the link between smoking and increased risk of lung cancer, or between alcoholism and liver disease."
Biological and medical scientists usually work regular hours in offices or laboratories and usually are not exposed to unsafe or unhealthy conditions. Those who work with dangerous organisms or toxic substances in the laboratory must follow strict safety procedures to avoid contamination. Medical scientists also spend time working in clinics and hospitals administering drugs and treatments to patients in clinical trials.
In addition to formal education, medical scientists usually spend several years in a postdoctoral position before they apply for permanent jobs. Medical PhD's are responsible for the development and patient treatment of most prescription drugs brought to market.
-- Peter Waters -- Please try to delete sentences, contort sentences, distort sentences, transform truth into lies -- BUT THIS IS FROM THE NIH AND YOU HAVE NO WIGGLE ROOM WITH THE NIH AND DR NASES MEDICAL TRAINING. HAVE FUN WITH YOUR POSTS THAT WILL CERTAINLY FOLLOW BUT THEY WILL BE PURE B.S. AND NOT BASED ON FACT. THE NIH RULES AND REGULATIONS ARE FACT AND INDISPUTABLE.
SORRY PETEY. SEE YA IN THE FUNNY PAGES!
THANK YOU John for facts.

I can't wait to see Peter Waters backpeddle and sling out mud all over the place in order to avoid answering or debating the question.

I think Peter should debate this one also because he's a great debater... he always sticks to the subject and never evades them.

His best retort would be, "It's impossible for Dr. Nase to treat Rosacea Patients because one book chapter misspelled his first name".

Its fun to watch Peter get mad.. he's so mad that he can't control this forum
Rick Capolla

Concord, GA

#4 Nov 21, 2011
The above posts are all garbage.
There is no such degree as a "medical PhD". Google is folks! Some schools such as Harvard offer a MD-PhD combinations (I know a physician who did this)- and yes, since there is the "MD" part of the degree, then he can treat patients.)
Jonathan (aka Nase) counts on folks not knowing anything about the healthcare system in the US. The NIH DOES NOT regulate the guidelines as to who can and who can't treat patients in the US (Nase doesn't list his sources anyway). This is soooo funny! A PhD is a PhD is a PhD. Many work in labs and do research in a laboratory "medical" environment. But, but, but, but....they CAN NOT diagnose, counsel, or treat patients. As a matter of fact, I was once involved in a clinical trial where there were several reseachers (PhDs) involved. Of course an MD was over the whole affair, since I was to be given drugs, etc.(and we know that only MDs, DOs, PAs and CNPs can administer drugs, dont we, Dr. Nase?)
Tell you what Jonathan, just scan and post a picture of a presciption that nase writes for you ok??? Show us that he as prescription power. Folks, next time you go visit your phsicians, ask them if they have ever heard of a "medical PhD".
I have to agree with the idiot on this forum that writes: Hahahahahahahahahaha!
Rick Capolla

Concord, GA

#5 Nov 21, 2011
Nase is a PhD who wishes he was an MD so he could treat patients. FACT.
medical student

Concord, GA

#6 Nov 21, 2011
"Medical scientists with a medical degree can administer these drugs to patients in clinical trials, monitor their reactions, and observe the results. The medical scientist will return to the laboratory to examine the results and, if necessary, adjust the dosage levels to reduce negative side effects or to try to induce even better results. In addition to using basic research to develop treatments for health problems, medical scientists attempt to discover ways to prevent health problems from developing, such as affirming the link between smoking and increased risk of lung cancer, or between alcoholism and liver disease."

Hmmm. Where did the above information come from Jonathan? Since you put the info. in quotes, you should identify the source (you learn how to do this very early in science). Thanks and will be waiting for you answere. BTW - your "changing the dose" statement is ridiculous. You should know better Jonathan. You dont change the dose in the middle of a trial, you nitwit! Don't they teach this in PhD school? Post the source, please.
Thanks!
medical boards

AOL

#7 Nov 21, 2011
hello all,
I know that in order to practice medicine (become a "practitioner"), one had to graduate from an accreditited school in a appropriate disclipline, and THEN pass both federal and sometimes state boards to get a licence. The LICENSE confers the power to treat and associate with patients. I know this from personal experience (Have a pharmacist and 3 nurses in my family). Even pharmacy techs are required to be "certified" in many states nowadays. So, Medical doctors, pharmacists, nurses, resp. therapists, PAs, NPs, etc. all require a LICENSE before interacting with patients.
Im am not aware of ANY Boards allowing PhDs to take their exams (e.g. for someone to be allowed to take a medical Board exam, he has to have a degree in MEDICINE from an accredited school.(Notice I did not say PhD). Foreign students coming to the US have to pass an equivalency exam. Google it, people.
***IN MOST DISCLPLINES, THE LICENSE IS CONSIDERED PUBLIC DOMAIN, SO ANYONE CAN LOOK UP THE LICENSE ON THE INTERNET. WHY NOT ASK DR. NASE FOR THE LINK TO HIS LICENSE???***
What about it Jonathan? Give us the link.,,,
Johnathan

Montréal, Canada

#9 Nov 21, 2011
Johnathan wrote:
If you don't have a MEDICAL PHD from Medical School and TWO POST-DOCTORAL FELLOWSHIPS from RESIDENCY PROGRAMS from Medical School then you CANNOT possibly have a factual comment about this subject.
Dr. Nase was trained so that he could develop drugs for our diseases and treat patients in clinical studies (in his area of expertise). Medical PhD's are the ones that develop, test and formulate 90% of all our prescription treatments.... not MD's!
Medical PhD's can treat patients. Period. Fact.
PhD's trained at Medical School and who received Medical Post Doctoral Fellow ships can treat patients in their areas of expertise.
This is from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) regarding Medical PhD's which was on Dr. Nase's site. So, whatever Peter Waters states about Dr. Nase or treating patients means less than zero because the NIH sets the standards for Medicine and Bio-Medicine.:
Medical scientist jobs require a Ph.D. degree in a bio-medicine. Biological scientists who do biomedical research are usually called medical scientists. Medical scientists work on basic research into normal biological systems to understand the causes of and to discover treatment for disease and other health problems. Medical scientists try to identify changes in a cell, chromosome, or even gene that signal the development of medical problems, such as different types of cancer. After identifying structures of or changes in organisms that provide clues to health problems, medical scientists work on the treatment of problems. For example, a medical scientist involved in cancer research may formulate a combination of drugs that will lessen the effects of the disease.
Medical Scientist Can Administer Drugs and Treat Patients:
"Medical scientists with a medical degree can administer these drugs to patients in clinical trials, monitor their reactions, and observe the results. The medical scientist will return to the laboratory to examine the results and, if necessary, adjust the dosage levels to reduce negative side effects or to try to induce even better results. In addition to using basic research to develop treatments for health problems, medical scientists attempt to discover ways to prevent health problems from developing, such as affirming the link between smoking and increased risk of lung cancer, or between alcoholism and liver disease."
Biological and medical scientists usually work regular hours in offices or laboratories and usually are not exposed to unsafe or unhealthy conditions. Those who work with dangerous organisms or toxic substances in the laboratory must follow strict safety procedures to avoid contamination. Medical scientists also spend time working in clinics and hospitals administering drugs and treatments to patients in clinical trials.
In addition to formal education, medical scientists usually spend several years in a postdoctoral position before they apply for permanent jobs. Medical PhD's are responsible for the development and patient treatment of most prescription drugs brought to market.
-- Peter Waters -- Please try to delete sentences, contort sentences, distort sentences, transform truth into lies -- BUT THIS IS FROM THE NIH AND YOU HAVE NO WIGGLE ROOM WITH THE NIH AND DR NASES MEDICAL TRAINING. HAVE FUN WITH YOUR POSTS THAT WILL CERTAINLY FOLLOW BUT THEY WILL BE PURE B.S. AND NOT BASED ON FACT. THE NIH RULES AND REGULATIONS ARE FACT AND INDISPUTABLE.
SORRY PETEY. SEE YA IN THE FUNNY PAGES!
Would everybody that does not have a Medical PHD to perform clinical testing please lower their hands. Thank you. Would everybody who does not have two Medical Residency Programs please lower your hand.. Thank you. Would the fake medical student whose every sentence is incorrect please go back to high school with Peter Waters. Thank you.

The NIH and the AMA spell out what a Medical PHD with Post Doctoral training can do... they treat patients in trials and clinical settings. Thanks for playing.
medical boards

AOL

#11 Nov 21, 2011
o.k. "jonathan".
Thanks for the reply. Then please post the link so as verity Dr. Nases license! Well...maybe I'll just find out whereever Dr. Nase rec'd his PhD and I'll email them to find out for sure!
Ha!
By the way, please post Dr. Nases NPI number (surely Dr. Nases KNOWS what an NPI number is, and has one?)
ps Provide his LICENSE NUMBER while youre at it!
Its GREAT playing this little game with you Jonathan!
Like the other chpa says: Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ha!
Lori Ketting

Dallas, TX

#13 Nov 21, 2011
"Medical student and Medical Board" (AKA Artist Cloutier), are you still dating people and telling them that you're not married.

We all know your story about your two year fling with Dr. Nase where you FORGOT to tell him you were married.

I think you are about even-steven with Peter Waters on the ethics and morality scale.

I wonder if your husband, Chris Cloutier, ever considered a DNA test on his child?

I guess mortal sins don't bother you.
medical student

Newnan, GA

#14 Nov 21, 2011
ok all you folks out there!
See how Dr. Nase ignored my post, simply to attack someone named "Artist Cloutier".
Didn't reply to having his license revealed (or NPI number or license no., etc.)
Just accused someone on a personal level for something that supposedly happened a long time ago.
Now my question to all reading this forum: Is the above post by "lori" (Dr. Nase) reprsentative of a medical professional both in tone and response? Is this how even NORMAL people respond to challenges?
By personal attacks? Now, use your judgement, folks, to decide if this is not one lying sicko egomainiac. Think about it. How would most professionals react upon someone challenging the validity of their ability to "treat" patients???
Sing all: "lets see the license, lets see the license!
medical student

Newnan, GA

#15 Nov 21, 2011
ps Im not this "Artist" person, Dr. Nase. Why did your wife leave you?
Marla

Miami, FL

#18 Nov 21, 2011
LAME Artist Cloutier - LAME

Everybody on this forum knows what you did. Shame on you. You are officially as pathetic as Peter.
medical student

Newnan, GA

#19 Nov 21, 2011
lets all sing: "lets see the license! Lets see the license!
Johnathan

Laval, Canada

#20 Nov 21, 2011
Medical PHD... case closed.

Obviously you are calling the NIH and AMA liars.

The same person who has affairs. Terrible stuff.

Since: Aug 12

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#22 Aug 1, 2013
Lol Dr. Geoffrey Nase PHd is back, here we go again, now he's hawking some skin cream.

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#23 Aug 2, 2013
Hmm, odd that Dr. Nase's post disappeared, now the comment before mine was from 2011.

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