GreenLight Laser Surgery Complications
Bill ohio

Lynchburg, OH

#658 May 23, 2011
NICK:

It could be that the bladder muscles are weak. There are bladder muscle exercise you can do to strenthen them.

.How to Strengthen the Bladder Muscle | eHow.com
Do Kegel exercises. Kegel exercises strengthen your pelvic floor muscles (the muscles that control your bladder) and can help improve sexual pleasure and prevent against ...

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Tug

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#659 Jun 1, 2011
I'm 60 years old am having GLS done on June 15/2011 in Toronto ,Ontario. Dr. Baldwin have been doing these since the early 1990 and is reportedly one of the best in his field. I am now concerned about this procedure after reading these posts and might even cancel my surgery.i didn't know that so many people had terrible side effects and that the recovery time took so long.
Brian from Windsor

Windsor, Canada

#660 Jun 1, 2011
Hi Tug,

I would not put it off if you have symptoms you want corrected. I would discuss your concerns with the Dr. There are 1.000's of these done where there are no complications. I would however start doing Kegels now, that seems to be a common complaint after. In fact, I did read one doctor's letter that said he advises his patients to begin Kegels 6 weeks befor surgery. The reduction in complications after he started this was dramatic.

Brian.
MIPELA

Miami Beach, FL

#661 Jun 9, 2011
I had the Greenlight Laser procedure 3 years ago. Since then, I have had nothing but urological problems far worse than I had before surgery.
I have recurrent episodes of copious hematuria (gross blood in the urine) whenever I do any strenous exercise such as dancing or jogging and in addition, I experience pain in the prostate and penis, with frequency (frequent urination) urgency (very stron desire/need to relieve urine fast) and episodes of urinary incontinence (inability to hold urine).
Now I am advised to have a mechanical TURP to try to treat the complications of the GREENLIGHT LASER PROCEDURE, but there are now futher complications to TURP surgery.
This is a HORRIBLY DEBILITATING STATE OF AFFAIRS!
If you have a large prostate like I do (90cc), STAY AWAY FROM GREENLIGHT LASER. Instead get a TURP.
Bill Ohio

United States

#662 Jun 10, 2011
David wrote:
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Any suggestions on how to select the right urologist ?
Get a surgeon that has done hundreds if Greenligh. I had mine done 19 months ago and have no side affects.
worked great for me. I think the doctors experience is the most important thing
Tug

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#663 Jun 10, 2011
Just 5 days untill i have my PVP surgery. I must admitt that i am both dreading and looking forward to the surgery.Two questions that i have, does PVP surgery work as well for a small size prostate and do many people get incontinence as a result of this PVP surgery.
Tug
Brian from Windsor

Windsor, Canada

#664 Jun 12, 2011
Tug, from my reading on the subject the size of
the prostate does not matter. It just means a
quicker surgery as they will remove less tissue.

Most do not have an incontinence of any consequence. Unfortunately I was one of the few
according to my Dr. I am getting better now,
6 months post surgery, but it was not a fun 6
months.

Good Luck to you.

Brian.
Tug

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#665 Jun 12, 2011
Brian from Windsor wrote:
Tug, from my reading on the subject the size of
the prostate does not matter. It just means a
quicker surgery as they will remove less tissue.
Most do not have an incontinence of any consequence. Unfortunately I was one of the few
according to my Dr. I am getting better now,
6 months post surgery, but it was not a fun 6
months.
Good Luck to you.
Brian.
Brian. Thanks for the information, i couldn't find much information on the prostate size issue.I will post about how the PVP surgery went as soon as i get back home from Toronto.
Jon

North Reading, MA

#666 Jun 13, 2011
Tug wrote:
Just 5 days untill i have my PVP surgery. I must admitt that i am both dreading and looking forward to the surgery.Two questions that i have, does PVP surgery work as well for a small size prostate and do many people get incontinence as a result of this PVP surgery.
Tug
After my PVP (March 31 2011)I leaked enough that I used 'feminine' protection for a few weeks until it stopped. Like you, I was dreading the surgery, mostly due to potential side effects. I'm 53, physically & sexually active and really didn't want anything mucking up those things.

If it's any consolation, knowing what I know now, I would still have the PVP. Here are a few 'highlights' from my experience:

1. Catheter: Only uncomfortable after the PVP and during the night, but excruiatingly painful when I got a boner the next morning @ 5:00AM. I asked my wife (by screaming) to take it out right then (while I closed my eyes).
2. Sitting at a desk for a long time was not painful, but the whole area was just kind of sore, so I used one of those donut things to sit on.
3. 2 weeks (to the day) after my PVP, we drove from Maine to Hilton Head, SC and also had to use the donut. Again, not really painful, but sore.
4. In Hilton Head we rented bicyles and I made them tilt the nose of the seat waaay down so I there was no pressure. Also ran (slowly) about 2 miles on the beach on Wed & Thurs of that week.
5. Blood in urine (pinkish) up until this time - after 2-3 weeks it started to be pinkish only at the end of the urine stream. Urination also feels different right at the end of the urine stream - you kind of get a wierd feeling at the end of your weiener - not bad, just different. Activity (like running) makes urine have more blood in it.
6. Tried sex (well I guess its not really sex when you're using your hand) after we got back to Maine (about 3.5 weeks post PVP) and no ejaculation and much less feeling. A few days later tried with my wife and it felt marginally better. I would say that now, the feeling is mostly back but still does not have quite the same intensity as before. Desire is the same - about 2-3 times per week. Still have retrograde and I don't like it. Not sure why it matters to me. I told my doc that I've been seeing it come out that way since I was 12 and don't want to change it now. My wife is overjoyed as she was never a fan of the fluid anyway...
7. After a month of normal colored urine, I thought everything was done with but right around June 1 - was urinating it just stopped. Some pain and then a blood clot fired out. It was truly disgusting. Next 2 days this would periodically happen, but all clear since then.
8 Am about 30 second slower running 5K race than I used to be pre-PVP. I can't explain why. I run 4-6 times pre week. Not a big deal, but it bugs me.

Sorry this is so long. If you want to talk via phone or have any questionsfeel free to email me: brownj <at> maine.rr.com
Tug

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#667 Jun 18, 2011
The PVP surgery was done on June 15th at 7:45 AM and had mild to no pain that day.The next day i returned to the hospital and had the catheter removed at about 9:00 AM, still no pain.Urine was dark pink in colour.I had to stay at the hospital untill i was able to pee 3 times, that took until about untill 12:00 noon.I had a difficult time peeing, pee tube seemed to be swollen restricting flow, urine was dark pink in colour. The Doctor told me that he removed a small amount from the prostate and that there was only a small amount of Bladder Neck Obstruction for him to deal with,other than that all went good.Was back at the Holiday Inn at about 12:45 PM,had a shower and was able to have a real good pee.At around 2:30 PM i started getting some pain and when i tried peeing only a little came out in a stream that seemed it was blocked by something.Around 4:30 PM i called the doctors ofice and his secretary recommended that i return to the hospital and have the cath/leg bag replaced untill i returned home.I had a couple of self-cathethers with me and tried that,my bladder was very full.I tried peeing untill 12:30 AM with no luck ( little dribbing )and returned to the hospital and had the cath/bag replaced.I called the Doctor the next day before my flight and he told me to leave the cath in untill Monday and than have it removed.This is where i am now, no pain but not yet able to pee on my own,seems to me that there is some swelling and blocking the flow.Time should sort things out.( i hope )
Brian from Windsor

Windsor, Canada

#668 Jun 18, 2011
Hopefully it's just clot from a piece of dried
blood or tissue. That happened to a friend of
mine and it took several days for him to pass
it all. He's fine now, but had a few days
of hell first.

Please keep us up to date. Good luck.

Brian.
BillOhio

United States

#669 Jun 18, 2011
BRIAN:

I had lots of clots for a while and had to push hard to get the biggest one out. Im ok now. Don't worry it will not last.
Rick in Wisconsin

Madison, WI

#670 Jun 19, 2011
Tug wrote:
The PVP surgery was done on June 15th at 7:45 AM and had mild to no pain that day.The next day i returned to the hospital and had the catheter removed at about 9:00 AM, still no pain.Urine was dark pink in colour.I had to stay at the hospital untill i was able to pee 3 times, that took until about untill 12:00 noon.I had a difficult time peeing, pee tube seemed to be swollen restricting flow, urine was dark pink in colour. The Doctor told me that he removed a small amount from the prostate and that there was only a small amount of Bladder Neck Obstruction for him to deal with,other than that all went good.Was back at the Holiday Inn at about 12:45 PM,had a shower and was able to have a real good pee.At around 2:30 PM i started getting some pain and when i tried peeing only a little came out in a stream that seemed it was blocked by something.Around 4:30 PM i called the doctors ofice and his secretary recommended that i return to the hospital and have the cath/leg bag replaced untill i returned home.I had a couple of self-cathethers with me and tried that,my bladder was very full.I tried peeing untill 12:30 AM with no luck ( little dribbing )and returned to the hospital and had the cath/bag replaced.I called the Doctor the next day before my flight and he told me to leave the cath in untill Monday and than have it removed.This is where i am now, no pain but not yet able to pee on my own,seems to me that there is some swelling and blocking the flow.Time should sort things out.( i hope )
Tug my Cat was in for 5 days and that helped ..because clots will keep coming out when u urinate...weird feeling ...flow stops and then out the clot comes and stream is strong again ...BTW i urinated tissue for 6 weeks ..now all is fine ...I still take flomax ...and pee like I'm a kid again...LOL
Joseph Ohio

Macedonia, OH

#671 Jun 19, 2011
I had green light surgury approx Oct o9. I still have testicular pain. My Dr , after a blood test says that I should continue taking Meloxican medication. I still have the pain. I also have no ejaculation after sex. I and otherwise a very healthy 70 year active man. I am concerned because the pain has not ended and don't know what to do. Any advise whould help.
Don

Southlake, TX

#672 Jun 19, 2011
Tug wrote:
I'm 60 years old am having GLS done on June 15/2011 in Toronto ,Ontario. Dr. Baldwin have been doing these since the early 1990 and is reportedly one of the best in his field. I am now concerned about this procedure after reading these posts and might even cancel my surgery.i didn't know that so many people had terrible side effects and that the recovery time took so long.
I had TURP 5 years ago and it did no good. I had GLS three years ago and it worked great. I think it depends on the doctor.
Peter

Bloomfield, NJ

#673 Jun 19, 2011
MIPELA wrote:
I had the Greenlight Laser procedure 3 years ago. Since then, I have had nothing but urological problems far worse than I had before surgery.
I have recurrent episodes of copious hematuria (gross blood in the urine) whenever I do any strenous exercise such as dancing or jogging and in addition, I experience pain in the prostate and penis, with frequency (frequent urination) urgency (very stron desire/need to relieve urine fast) and episodes of urinary incontinence (inability to hold urine).
Now I am advised to have a mechanical TURP to try to treat the complications of the GREENLIGHT LASER PROCEDURE, but there are now futher complications to TURP surgery.
This is a HORRIBLY DEBILITATING STATE OF AFFAIRS!
If you have a large prostate like I do (90cc), STAY AWAY FROM GREENLIGHT LASER. Instead get a TURP.
Sorry to hear of your difficulties. I guess I was lucky. My prostate was also very large 162cc yet my GLS was pretty succesful. It has been a month post op and the only problem I've experienced is the bleeding.
Tug

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#674 Jun 20, 2011
Sunday i went to the Hospital Emergency because of severe stomach pain, had some x-rays done and showed that i was badly consipated although a had two bowel movements in the past 8 hours.Possible bladder infection,more anti-biotics.I removed cath at home
Sunday at 2:00 PM @ at 4:14 PM i went about 100 ml no pain or blood,good stream.The next time was 8:40 PM with ALOT of pain,about 20 ml and a blood clot.At 12:00 midnite i used a cath because a bladder pain and went about 100 ml and blood and a big blood clot. Monday all i have been able to do is dribble, an occassional tiny sqirt with blood and TERRIBLE PAIN.Definetly clotted up,emergency doctor will not put cath/bag back on because i am passing urine.Will see uro doctor on June 28th, any way to flush out the clots.
Brian from Windsor

Windsor, Canada

#675 Jun 20, 2011
Stay with it Tug, once the clots pass you'll see
a huge difference. I remember passing clots and
tissue a few weeks after. I can recall one
particular where it was like popping the cork on
a bottle. I was just dribbling a bit and then,
wham! The clot passed and it was like Niagra Falls. That was my last clot, now I just have
to stop the stress incontinence.

Good luck!
Tug

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#676 Jun 22, 2011
Feel alot better after i stopped taking those anti-biotics this morning, what a difference.Those pills were killing me. Last nite was the pitts, started peeing at 11:00pm and did so every 15-20 minutes untill about 4:00 am.I don't know what caused it, i did eat a lot of grapes before bed.Made a trip to the grocery store yesterday and just picked up a few things, nothing heavy but when i got home and pee-ed there was a lot of blood, so i am wondering how long i have to wait before i can take my boat out for a ride.Its at the marina so i do not have to trailer it.
Brian from Windsor

Windsor, Canada

#677 Jun 22, 2011
Hi Tug,

Please be patient. I would not press it until you are almost peeing clear. You don't want any setbacks. I was almost clear then started back with my workout routine. I over did it with sit ups and had to wait another week for it to settle
down.

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