Problem with Pain Management doctor
Made a Huge Mistake

Norman, OK

#259 Sep 1, 2012
I have an Arth.Disease that has fused all of my vertebrae from my Axis to the middle of my back,with a prognosis that my whole spine will Fuse. I have 2 pinched nerves in lumbar,& a Hip that needs 2B replaced!I was UA'd at Arth. Dr.& was positive for Pot. I've been on PM for 8yrs with clean tests, but my Dr. has Canceled me!What can I do?
Tam44wisc

Milwaukee, WI

#261 Sep 5, 2012
Sinatra1955 wrote:
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I'm 57 and can't tell you enough how doctors don't understand the severe pain I go through everyday I too went through a similar incident with my doctor but luckily he didnt cut me off and kick me too the curb thankfully since I've been seeing him for 10+ years. anyways just keep fighting and dont give up. I do get 120 30mg oxycodones a month if you need any help or would like some of my monthly supply I'd glady help another CPP patient out
Find a new one! They will not let you back in. Some will give you a 2nd chance but not most.
Rickman

United States

#262 Sep 19, 2012
I have been dealing with low back pain and sciatica daily for two years now. I have served 28 years in the military with over half my time on AD. All the wear and tear on my back while in the service has tore my back up. I have DDD and two herniated discs. I have tried PT with no help. I went to my doc after I returned from Iraq in 2011 and he put me on hydrocodone and Celebrex. I took both as instructed and my sciatica pain subsided. I stopped taking the Celebrex after a week since my leg pain was gone and just took the hydrocodone as needed for back pain. My doc was giving me 60 pills a month. Well as we all know you build up a tolerance to opioids and to get the relief I needed I crept up my dosage to deal with the pain. Of course this means I would run out early. At first the withdrawals are rough but I would get through them every month. I found that when i ran out of hydrocodone, taking 3000-4000 mg of Tylenol daily helps some with the pain (including Tylenol PM at night). I work a desk job as a civilian and it is hard to focus on anything except the pain when working. My boss knows I am going through Hell and so does my wife and family. When I take hydrocodone (10/325) I can function well. I am not irratible from the pain. Since I built up a tolerance I asked my doc if he could increase my dosage. He said he could not and that I needed to go to PM. This is when I started feeling like a criminal. The PM doc wants me off hydrocodone but gave me a script for 90 and told me to take my Celebrex as previously instructed. He thinks the main issue now is arthritis pain. He wanted to try facet injections to confirm. I am refusing anything invasive at this time. I continued to take my usual dosage of hydrocodone (7 per day) for a while and slowly weaned back and started taking Celebrex. A week after I started taking Celebrex and ran out of hydrocodone, I noticed black spots (like coffee grinds) in my stool. Since I ran out of hydrocodone and read the comments here I decided I had better call my PM office. I spoke with the nurse about running out of hydrocodone and the black spots in my stool. She sounded pretty cool about it and scheduled my next appointment. They may kick me out of PM for not following the contract but they may understand and give me a second chance. Now that I have ran out of hydrocodone (3 days now), the WD is gone but the pain is relentless. I know how bad the pain can get if you overdo it. I was bedridden for 3 days and struggled to get out of bed, could not dress myself, etc.. I hate that our government has had to crack down so hard on our health care system. I and many others here struggle each day just to have a normal life. With pain pills, it is possible for people like me to function close to 100%. Here is an interesting article about how chronic pain actually causes brain damage: http://wellescent.com/health_blog/the-damagin... . If I get kicked out of PM I will be sure to share the story with him. People NOT in pain need to suffer for a while like us and maybe there will be some understanding.
Hurt in st Pete

Seminole, FL

#263 Sep 19, 2012
Rickman,
Pm drs are the worst, they don't have a clue what we go trough everyday. The day you start feeling better they start cutting down on your meds, personally I think the government would prefer if we all ate a bullet..
Lunchbox Frog

Houston, TX

#264 Sep 19, 2012
Made a Huge Mistake wrote:
I have an Arth.Disease that has fused all of my vertebrae from my Axis to the middle of my back,with a prognosis that my whole spine will Fuse. I have 2 pinched nerves in lumbar,& a Hip that needs 2B replaced!I was UA'd at Arth. Dr.& was positive for Pot. I've been on PM for 8yrs with clean tests, but my Dr. has Canceled me!What can I do?
Hey I just read your post from Sept 1. I am so sorry this happened to you! If you need any help finding a pain doctor email me at [email protected] and I should be able to help you.

Since: Mar 12

Columbus, OH

#266 Sep 25, 2012
8 month supply of the xanas, obv not the roxies. Just cut my script in half to 4 15s a day and that was that.
Fatherof4

United States

#267 Oct 1, 2012
Ok so hers Mÿ issue, today I called a PM clinic one my cuz ref. me to right? Anyways I have DDD and in cronic pain daily the last time I went to a PM was 3 yrs ago for the same condition, and he my old dr don't practic in my area no more so I've just been winging it doing what I have to do to help with the pain. So I call this PM clinic they ask me " when is thè last time u took meds?" I responded 2-3 yrs ago from my old PM she then says " so in 2-3 yrs u havnt used any pain meds?" we'll I've always been told to be honost with PM clinics do I replied with the truth and said "well not since my pm docter but I have been to the ER a few times and they can't do much nor will they treat cronic pain". This bitch sorry for my language but I'm a little pissed, she tells me "we do not accept PT that have been to the ER", really? Really? Are u fking kidding me? What else am I supposed to do when I'm hurting? Ain't that what ER's are for? Now granted they don't give me nearly enough or sometimes nothing but when u hurt u hurt right? A person will do just about anything when in pain. What was I to do? Lie And say no then spend all that money to get seen just to not get helped or be looked at as a drug seeker? This fucking country has gone crazy, what do they want me to do? It's either go to a ER when I'm hurting or go buy off the street it's kinda damn if u do damn if u don't. I live in Virginia witch by the way is very hard to get RX drugs. So my question is just what in the hell am I to do? I mean if I didn't go to a ER yrs ago I wouldn't have known I had DDD and when I'm hurting idgaf what the ER says or a PM clinic that by the way I'm just making a appoinment to get seen its not like I'm a PT, what are u guys advise please tell me? I mean I'm no drug seeker I need meds I did without for 3 yrs I can't do it no more just what am I to do? I don't go around buying pills but hell at this point I think it would be for the best am I wrong? Or is it just the pain talking please reply and help me out. Ty guys I wish u all luck.
Fatherof4

United States

#268 Oct 2, 2012
God this is BS!!!! It's 3:59 am and my back is hurting so bad I can't even sleep, when I'm able to doze off I'm waking up every 15-20 min my hips are killing me the damn siadica pain in my leg this is bs. If anyone seen Mÿ last post 10 hrs ago please any advise let me know. I'm having so much trouble trying to find a good PM herein Virginia it's just crazy. I mean ik it's wrong to go out on the street to get pills I've never done it the closest I've ever come to that is getting a 5 mg perk off my mom or sister, but I'm really concidering this not only can I find a good pm that cares but when I do as I stated in my last post they won't see me cuz I've been to the ER??? Wtf is this country coming to? Is it wrong to feel I have to go on the street and find the meds I need just to get some fucking relief or even sleep for that matter???? I'm sorry to trouble anyone with this post I'm just in pain frustrated with our health care system and really have no one to talk to with my issues. I mean my loving wife watches me day in and day out struggling for some kind of relief but she's not a cronic pain sufferer u know? She can't talk to me knowing what I'm going through like most of u guys. Idk guess its time to break the law hell lol I wouldn't even know how or what to do to buy them damn things off the street or even how much they are??? This is nuts hell I'm talking nuts maybe today I'll get lucky and find a pm that will accept me and help me out, even if I don't get pain meds damn do something anything injections anything to let me get just 1 god just 1!!!! Full nights rest that's all I ask and maybe a whole day without pain??? Anyways I'm just going on I'm sure there's a limit on how much I can wright huh and bitching about it to ppl that are prob. Having the same troubles is not helping lol. Ok guys im going to try this again see what happens good night please any advise on my last post on the last page I'm open for suggestions Ty for hearing my bitching ;) gn.
Fatherof4

United States

#269 Oct 2, 2012
Lazlo Binker wrote:
Bobbi:
In my office I use an "Opiate Agreement" as opposed to an "Opiate Contract". Contracts are by definition legal documents. And you could use the legal system to enforce it (if you wanted go to that expense and misery).
Read your contract very carefully. If there is nothing stipulating that there was a need for timeliness, then you haven't broken any contract.
My suggestion is that you study the contract thoroughly and note what the doctor's duties per the contract and what your duties are per the contract. Then decide if the contract has been violated and by who. I would have another meeting with the Dr. and, in a very calm and non-confrontational way, that you would just like to treated with respect and dignity. You may mention how difficult it is to take care of yourself and your family, about the 2 trips to the ER, about the stigmata and shame you've experienced.
If someone came to me with that and approached me this way I would be humbled, embarrassed and wanting to fix what I could.
.....hey bud I have a question for u since u claim to be a PM doc if u don't mind answering. I posted a question few hrs ago no one has answered yet so u seem like a good person to ask. Basicly I have DDD always in pain daily most days I can't even put my pants on without my back locking up and that damn siadica pain shooting down my leg it's just crazy!!!. So on to my question 2-3 yrs ago I was seeing a PM doc in Virginia he stopped practicing in my area I have 4 kids and at the time couldn't just up and pay all that money to a new PM u understand? My kids come before my pain period. So at this time im in a good place I'm ready to start back PM I really need to don't think I can do another 2-3 yrs. I contacted a PM clininc yesterday was asked "what am I taking pain med wise now" I stated "nothing by a PM doc for almost 3 yrs now" she then replied "so u havnt had no pain meds in 2-3 yrs?" now am I wrong for telling the truth? I mean why lie? So I stated "well no not buy a PM doc buy I have been to the ER to help with my pain but most times they can't do much of anything with CPP" she told me that they do not exsept PT that have been to the ER???? Wtf am I to do?? I mean when I hurt I hurt idgaf what u docs think, I did what I had to do to control the pain at the time cuz I was not in the right place finachily to be involved with a PM. So what do u suggest doc? Should I keep looking for a PM doc and lie?? Should I go buy off the streets?? Cuz really that's what u so called docters are making it come to no offeance to u sir just saying is all what should I do? I need pain meds as well as injections and maybe on down the line to have my L3,L4 and L5 fused together with I want to avoid but w/e ends this bs pain Daily. Hope to hear back from u best wishies.
justmeok

Floral Park, NY

#270 Oct 6, 2012
i live by myself and is disabled. i receive my ssd check on the first of the first of the month and see my pain management doc. on the first week of the month. he said "that i came up clean". well,i informed him that i have alot of errons to do,and not take 90 milligrams of oxycodone,because i have to drive.why is he mor concerned about theurine test and not my well being.what can i do?
gabby

United States

#271 Oct 7, 2012
My question is that I have a appt to refill my scripts and my doc does a urine test and I took something else and I go tomorrow for the test. Can I just say I'm having bladder problems and can't pee or will she not fill my script then? Please write back asap thanks!

Since: Jun 12

Port Jervis, NY

#272 Oct 7, 2012
gabby wrote:
My question is that I have a appt to refill my scripts and my doc does a urine test and I took something else and I go tomorrow for the test. Can I just say I'm having bladder problems and can't pee or will she not fill my script then? Please write back asap thanks!
I once used the excuse I had a urinery Trac infection and they were cool and said ok next time we will do one.
Fatherof4

United States

#273 Oct 13, 2012
Hmmm why has no one responded to my posts?? Please help me out I'm at a ahhh right now.
bobbie

Niagara Falls, NY

#274 Oct 14, 2012
My meds hve been stopped bc the carrier said I denied the urine test...I asked the Dr. what it was for, she told me and I said okay...but when I picked up my meds..they told me there would not be anymore bc I would not take the test which I did say I woud do..what the -ell....

This is nonsense when I said I would take the test...it is going to hit the fan tomorow

Since: Jun 12

Kingston, NY

#275 Oct 16, 2012
bobbie wrote:
My meds hve been stopped bc the carrier said I denied the urine test...I asked the Dr. what it was for, she told me and I said okay...but when I picked up my meds..they told me there would not be anymore bc I would not take the test which I did say I woud do..what the -ell....
This is nonsense when I said I would take the test...it is going to hit the fan tomorow
These doctors and health centers are getting rediculous they are kicking out people for bullshit
I was kicked out for having alcohol in my system and that wasn't allowed my pain contract said nothing about that I was pissed and ready to blow up but I just found a new doc that took me right away and continued my meds he actually up'ed my meds!!
I know I'm one of the lucky ones cause I know how hard it is to find a new doc!
Luckily I had gone to him years ago and he remembered me!
If I was you I would speak to the doc directly and explain what happened and if that don't work try to find a new doc!!
Good luck my friend
tip the dad

Salisbury, MD

#276 Oct 21, 2012
I suffer from disc herniations and several bulges and despite being only 35 years old, I am on medicare disability. I had been under the care 2 pain management specialists and 1 primary care doctor. Unfortunately, I do not live in a large city, therefore there are not many physicians available and those we do have are not accepting new patients. My PCP committed suicide and both of my pain dics have had there practices closed from the DEA I believe or the physicians board.The tragic result has been people with legitimate pain issues suddenly having no where to turn to assist them with their pain plus now having to deal with the abrupt discontinuation of their narcotics, physical therapy,and other modalities that allowed them to function in a job, attend school, or even participate in their children's lives such as coaching a little wage team. But surprise surprise the streets are loaded with heroin which is a line I will never cross, but many have. So the government's "WAE ON DRUGS" can't stop the street drugs so instead they aimed their power to "WAR ON LEGITIMATE DRUGS" after making sure their are now a lot more customers prepared to cross the line so they can obtain relief from their pain, not to get "high", which were the only reason anyone used to by some unknown drug from a person selling on the corner. I FIND THIS TOO STRANGE TO BE A COINCIDENCE! The sellers are not the ones involved importing the her ion into the country, nor making the huge money as a result of the increased sales...so who is. My gut feeling is it was a plan to get people addicted to narcotics and then turn them loose with few options to help them. Why doesn't anyone help.? I even went to a methadone clinic but they said I had to have opiates in my system and ccouldn't make my first appointment for weeks after my doctor's last prescription would have been long gone. They said they don't care how I got opiates in my system, but they had to be there. The ER just gave me some doctor's names to call, but as soon as they knew you were a pain patient, they would not see you. I live 3 hours from Baltimore, if anyone can advise me please do.
tip the dad

Salisbury, MD

#277 Oct 21, 2012
PS: I have been a single dad for 10 years and my daughter is 11 and my son is 14 and they need me to be there for them physically and mentally. I had been in college and would soon have been a teacher. My life is falling down around me as well as my children because I am now practically immobile due to my pain. I think they would be better off without me as I am now...but I would never do that to them. They are the only thing making me hang in there. I know I only discussed narcotics, but I have had multiple invasive procedures also and regularly attended physical therapy which was painful but effective. I could no longer tolerate therapy without then meds.

Since: Mar 12

Columbus, OH

#278 Oct 21, 2012
Well my doctor appointment didnt go as planned. I was straight up honest. He said up front "I wont prescribe any scheduled meds" Yet he prescribed me my xanax.... hmmmm.
Feel_lucky_and_s houldnt

Dallas, TX

#279 Oct 22, 2012
tip the dad wrote:
PS: I have been a single dad for 10 years and my daughter is 11 and my son is 14 and they need me to be there for them physically and mentally. I had been in college and would soon have been a teacher. My life is falling down around me as well as my children because I am now practically immobile due to my pain. I think they would be better off without me as I am now...but I would never do that to them. They are the only thing making me hang in there. I know I only discussed narcotics, but I have had multiple invasive procedures also and regularly attended physical therapy which was painful but effective. I could no longer tolerate therapy without then meds.
Hey Dad, just read thru all these depressing posts, and wanted to reply to you... Needing help with pain control is obviously an insanely frustrating situation to be in. It can take so much hard work to get it, and that doesn't work when you're in a position where you can't do all those things and have no support to help you. I am there. I just want to encourage you not to give up. There are good doctors out there. It's insanely difficult to find one however. I have known several people who gave up and ended their life due to frustration and never ending pain. It is obviously unbearable. Take pride and solace that you do have those little peeps that love you. That love can get you thru the worst times. I am not from your area, but please do more research on pain clinics around you. Small towns are usually a curse in this situation, as the doctors have been taken advantage of and have decided not to risk it. You may have to travel, which isn't always an option when you are in this situation. But all you have to do is make it to that one appointment and you will be feeling better, and getting to the next one won't be so hard. Be patient. That's easy to say, but if you see a doctor for the first time and are in pain, sometimes that can come across the wrong way. First impressions are so important in this situation. Be honest, tell them about your pain and medical history, but try and keep your emotions in check. I have found it best to first send your medical records before you go, and have a discussion with someone in the office about what you are looking for, as far as treatment and expectations. You can usually get a good read off of that, what you can expect before even going. And that only takes a phone call to do. Honestly these people do see numerous seekers all day long, and have long ago developed a judgement of most people before they are even seen. You are your only advocate. Developing that trust is the next most important thing. Not only the doctor to you, but you in your doctor, and his ability and desire to actually help you. Be thankful for the interwebs, and all the access to info we have. Concentrate it in your area, not on a national site. Just don't give up! When you get to the point where it is controlled, you will be so thankful that the love of your kids got you thru it, and that will be an important lesson you can teach them to hold onto forever. From someone who doesn't have that, I am happy you will be able to pass that along. And when your misery is controlled your family will be able to enjoy their dad that has been thru so much. You can make it happen! You have to, it's your only choice daddy-o... Find your savior (insane that's what they are).
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- As for me, I don't know if anyone can answer my question... I have been seeing the same PM doc for ten years, and was never asked to sign a contract. I think I was grandfathered in. Does anyone know if they can make me sign one now? Or refuse treating me? I have never had any issues, but a new RN has taken over as he is doing more procedures instead, and she is someone who seems to be loving making life as hard for people as she can. It still has his name on my script bottles, but I haven't seen him in awhile. He's the best doc, but she sucks & is only RN.
Thanks!
Hurt in st Pete

Holiday, FL

#280 Oct 23, 2012
Feel_lucky_and_shouldnt wrote:
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Hey Dad, just read thru all these depressing posts, and wanted to reply to you... Needing help with pain control is obviously an insanely frustrating situation to be in. It can take so much hard work to get it, and that doesn't work when you're in a position where you can't do all those things and have no support to help you. I am there. I just want to encourage you not to give up. There are good doctors out there. It's insanely difficult to find one however. I have known several people who gave up and ended their life due to frustration and never ending pain. It is obviously unbearable. Take pride and solace that you do have those little peeps that love you. That love can get you thru the worst times. I am not from your area, but please do more research on pain clinics around you. Small towns are usually a curse in this situation, as the doctors have been taken advantage of and have decided not to risk it. You may have to travel, which isn't always an option when you are in this situation. But all you have to do is make it to that one appointment and you will be feeling better, and getting to the next one won't be so hard. Be patient. That's easy to say, but if you see a doctor for the first time and are in pain, sometimes that can come across the wrong way. First impressions are so important in this situation. Be honest, tell them about your pain and medical history, but try and keep your emotions in check. I have found it best to first send your medical records before you go, and have a discussion with someone in the office about what you are looking for, as far as treatment and expectations. You can usually get a good read off of that, what you can expect before even going. And that only takes a phone call to do. Honestly these people do see numerous seekers all day long, and have long ago developed a judgement of most people before they are even seen. You are your only advocate. Developing that trust is the next most important thing. Not only the doctor to you, but you in your doctor, and his ability and desire to actually help you. Be thankful for the interwebs, and all the access to info we have. Concentrate it in your area, not on a national site. Just don't give up! When you get to the point where it is controlled, you will be so thankful that the love of your kids got you thru it, and that will be an important lesson you can teach them to hold onto forever. From someone who doesn't have that, I am happy you will be able to pass that along. And when your misery is controlled your family will be able to enjoy their dad that has been thru so much. You can make it happen! You have to, it's your only choice daddy-o... Find your savior (insane that's what they are).
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- As for me, I don't know if anyone can answer my question... I have been seeing the same PM doc for ten years, and was never asked to sign a contract. I think I was grandfathered in. Does anyone know if they can make me sign one now? Or refuse treating me? I have never had any issues, but a new RN has taken over as he is doing more procedures instead, and she is someone who seems to be loving making life as hard for people as she can. It still has his name on my script bottles, but I haven't seen him in awhile. He's the best doc, but she sucks & is only RN.
Thanks!
What a awesome post lucky !!
And your answer is yes, is the RN that you are seeing a pm RN ? That's the problem with my last dr, he had a big staff and I had to wait for my scripts because no one else could do it. If you get the RN 's name do a license search to check out his education. If he's not trained in pm I would be raising cane over how can he treat me if he's not schooled in pm? But I love your post and god bless you for being a good person.

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