Unvaccinated blamed for largest measles outbreak in 15 years

There are 37 comments on the Home Page tampabay.com story from Oct 25, 2011, titled Unvaccinated blamed for largest measles outbreak in 15 years. In it, Home Page tampabay.com reports that:

Vaccine debates often get heated, but the evidence is mounting that too many unvaccinated children , according to new research, are playing a part in the largest U.S. outbreak of measles to occur in 15 years.

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FBOMBER

Winnipeg, Canada

#21 Oct 26, 2011
jones6 wrote:
"This is the beginning of the rest of the future now and from now on there will simply be all these robots walking around, feeling nothing, thinking nothing, and there will be nobody left almost to remind them that there once was a species called a human being, with feelings and thoughts and that history and memory are right now being erased and soon nobody will really remember that life existed on the planet."
This pretty much sums it up for me. I don't listen to any group exclusively. I form my own opinions about what seems logical to me. I guess society is moving towards forcing choices and decisions. Predicted outcomes are much safer and create less risk for society as a whole. Damn the expense.
Actually they want a very sick population that needs product to live. Guess who makes us sick, then sells so-called cures too?

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#22 Oct 26, 2011
Impossible math to do. Numbers were never tracked at the time the rates were estimated to be 1:10,000. That is false. The true beauty of it is any one can look it up. That number was always a guestimate. There was no tracking methods. In the USA, autism wasn't 'counted' until it was added to IDEA and at that time, as autism rates went up within the school system, Mental retardation went down. And for those children who also receive county services, they're then counted into that statistic twice. And that's not to mention of those, who had chromosome testing? There's huge evidence over over-diagnosing going on.

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#23 Oct 26, 2011
FBOMBER wrote:
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Actually they want a very sick population that needs product to live. Guess who makes us sick, then sells so-called cures too?
You must be talking about Wakefield, again who targeted the Somali community not to vaccinate, and walla, they're sick of the very disease they were told to avoid as a vaccine. Who sells the cures? Jenny McCarthy for starters. Mercola. Or Boyd Haley's industrial strength chelator sold as a dietary, extremely illegal. Age Of Autism. Those are the only ones selling cures. Main stream medicine rarely ever says the word cure.
FBOMBER

Winnipeg, Canada

#24 Oct 26, 2011
So friend, where can we read this important information?(she won't say, she's a fraud).

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#25 Oct 26, 2011
I've said many times, I wont flood and force people with links, like Winnipeg does. It doesn't make me some fraud, it makes me smarter than he is. I often do include the info, and he calls me names anyway. I'm not here to impress him as it seems he is to impress me with his dazzling attacks. I'm here for balance. It's all easily found and those who are here at this forum because they're serious, will in fact do their own research. All this info about increased out breaks of measles is there, too. I'm all for vaccine choice but as you stand in the pay line of the grocery store, you have no idea who has been to Kenya, or who will have serious side affects from contracting the measles and more than a doctor can predict who is at higher risk for vaccine injury.
FBOMBER

Winnipeg, Canada

#26 Oct 26, 2011
No you're a fraud
Deb

United States

#27 Dec 15, 2011
I think that because young parents today have no personal experience of the tragedy and suffering these diseases used to cause pre vaccine that they take them way too lightly. My mother's brother died of polio my father's of diptheria. Millions died around the world of these preventable diseases and hundreds of thousands of them were here in the U.S. Mostly children and every year! Then add the number of people crippled by them or born deaf or brain damaged because of them. Vaccines may be the greatest thing that ever prevented death behind clean water and antibiotics. They are as safe as possible considering the fact that any single person on this planet could have a deadly or harmful reaction to even the most benign substance that others may safely take or be exposed every day. By far the majority of people have no ill effect from vaccines. The few that do, well it is tragic and horrible but I believe the small risk is worth it. And don't dare make that fraudulent claim that vaccines cause autism because any one that truly does their homework on the subject knows its not true. Over 20 long term large studies have shown time and time again that there is no greater incidence of autism in fascinated kids vs unvaccinated ones. The most recent studies are pointing toward genetics. Unvaccinted kids really are a danger to others. My friend's newborn died last winter of pertussis. Her sister in law believed this crap and didn't immunize. Her kids got pertussis and before anyone really even knew they were sick it was passed along to the baby. Get educated people!

Deb

United States

#28 Dec 15, 2011
One more thing. Only three companies make vaccines on the U.S. now and one is phasing out. Why? Because they don't make money. All the vaccines these companies sell in a year do not make the kind of money Viagra for instances makes in a day. Not to mention that all 3 of these companies give away vaccines to Third World countries during epidemics and sell them at cost to countless prevention programs in those same countries. Vaccine manufacture may be the most charitable thing so called BigPharma has ever done because they do not nor ever have made a profit on them.
Deb

United States

#29 Dec 15, 2011
Interested in knowing the facts? Read Dr.Paul Offit's book Vaccinated any get the truth.

Since: Jan 07

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#32 Dec 16, 2011
So people put their faith in other anti vaxxer jokers, who give mis-info on history.
Thanks for spreading it!
Vaccines Autism wrote:
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Here read about the polio vaccine's history.
http://www.thenhf.com/article.php...
FBOMBER

Winnipeg, Canada

#33 Dec 16, 2011
friend wrote:
So people put their faith in other anti vaxxer jokers, who give mis-info on history.
Thanks for spreading it!
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More krap from MISS PIGGY
Deb

United States

#36 Dec 28, 2011
Dr. Offit is not a vaccine maker. Stop making stuff up. Only 3 companies in the US make vaccines and the process is highly regulated. Please show me the data you have that show vaccines main and kill? Please compare your stats to the numbers maimed and killed by diseases pre vaccine? Vaccines do NOT cause autism. Once again I will point out that study after study shows no higher rates of autism among Vaccinated children as compared to Unvaccinated ones. My friend's newborn was killed by pertussis she got from her Unvaccinated cousins. Parents that choose not to Vaccinate their children because they listen to dangerous idiots like you are a danger to the rest of us.

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#38 Dec 28, 2011
Offit wasn't the only share holder, and he only sold his own share of the rotavirus vaccine. Big deal. Offit has a far better professional back ground that Wakefield had, and Wakefield had 3 vaccine patents. Thousands of children die of it every year, and those who cant get medical treatment surely affects that outcome. Has your child ever had rotavirus? Mine has.
Deb

Paradise, UT

#40 Dec 28, 2011
Rotovirus kills millions of children and the elderly around the world to this day because the vaccine is not as widely distributed yet as the vaccines that have been around longer. Its a horrible way to die that combines constant and unrelenting diarrhea and dehydration. Thousands get the virus in the U.S. as friend mentioned but we are blessed with such easy access to great medical care here that the death rate is pretty low. Its a terrible thing to go through even with excellent medical care. Sorry friend!
Deb

Paradise, UT

#42 Dec 28, 2011
Rotovirus effects thousands yearly in the U.S. even though we have clean water and good sanitation. A few die. Yes. Here. In the U.S. Obviously you don't get it Winnipeg. Vaccines save millions of lives every year even in the States and Canada. Vaccine makers give them out free or at cost to poor countries. I'm tired of repeating myself to you so goodnight.

Since: Jan 07

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#44 Dec 28, 2011
Rotavirus is a virus and in any country, washing hands 'may' prevent such things but children generally are the ones who spread viruses to another. They have yet to learn all the cover your nose and keep your fingers out of your diapers rules. My child contracted it via another older day care child, at a place with running water and toilets.

Even with medical care, depending on the age of the child or elderly, there is no way to orally force liquids to prevent dehydration. It's very difficult to keep an infant hydrated.

Of course Offit is always picked on, even though no huge major side effects had ever been reported of that vaccine and there has yet to be a claim it causes autism. And before we know it, that pork virus is not harmful to people, and you're exposed to it via pork. So all it really is, is attacking the man and side tracking the topic itself "Unvaccinated blamed for measles outbreak".
Deb wrote:
Rotovirus effects thousands yearly in the U.S. even though we have clean water and good sanitation. A few die. Yes. Here. In the U.S. Obviously you don't get it Winnipeg. Vaccines save millions of lives every year even in the States and Canada. Vaccine makers give them out free or at cost to poor countries. I'm tired of repeating myself to you so goodnight.

Since: Jan 07

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#47 Dec 28, 2011
All ends up in the body just the same.... that's right, Winnipeg has no clue about biology or viruses for that matter.

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