No vaccines, no school

Apr 20, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: PhillyBurbs.com

Parents have just more than a week to submit their children's updated immunization records to their school or the kids won't be allowed in classes beginning May 1. That means dozens of students, from kindergarten to high school, in the Bristol and Morrisville school districts might have to stay home if their shot records aren't updated by the ... (more)

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More manipulation and coercion of parents. Saying Wakefield's and Professor John Walker Smith's dismissals are proof the MMR is safe is not only untrue, its ludicrous. In fact Walker Smith waqs exonerated only weeks ago and his original conviction called "UNLAWFUL" by the judge. All vaccines have side effects, and the science and understanding of vaccine injury is not well developed. However, the U.S. government set up a vaccine injury compensation program and a vaccine injury court. It also gave vaccine makers blanket immunity from all forms of litigation. Thats a lot of protection for safe products. No other industry receives this level of protectionism, even those with so-called "SAFE" products.

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Ah, the article acknowledges waivers, and Walker-Smith's exoneration does not at all prove anything about the MMR. Their convictions were about professional conduct.
The USA vaccine court also wasn't created due to the MMR. And since everyone seems to know about National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (NVICP), then they shouldn't be able to deny knowing vaccines carried risks, like all medicine does.$903 million has been paid out to claims previous to 1988. So it's not like NVICP doesn't pay our on claims.
And why do you not see this in any other industry? Childhood diseases are deadly. Present day California can tell you about how deadly. In most medicine, if you have an allergic reaction, you wouldn't be able to get compensation. But you can with vaccines, all thanks to NVICP.
Leave it to someone in Canada to complain about a program that doesn't even affect him in one way or another and attempts t use it as some 'proof' that everyone should had known about in the 1980's. Back fired on him every time he brings it up.
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To "Friend". Your comments about the NVICP really show that you do not know much about the program. It is true that the NVICP will compensate. The problem is that the vaccine injury table which the court uses for decisions on compensation, continues to change. There are many deaths recorded within a few days to a couple of weeks of children where the court denied compensation. In the court records, the Gov't attorneys blamed other factors yet medical doctors providing testimony for the petitions state otherwise. The Vaccine Court is not a fair, just, or quick resolution of vaccine injuries as Congress intended it to be in 1986. It is a very hostile, aggravating process where over 90% of all filings are dismissed.

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You're the one who doesn't know much about the program. To win an award, a claimant must show a causal connection; if medical records show a child has one of several listed adverse effects soon after vaccination, the assumption is that it was caused by the vaccine. The burden of proof is the civil-law preponderance-of-the-evidence standard, in other words a showing that causation was more likely than not. Many cases could not prove that, along with the many cases going to vaccine court that couldn't prove autism-vaccine preponderance-of-the-evidence standard. It takes more than testimony from the petitioners doctors to show a show a causal connection. Maybe it's 90 percent in autism-vaccine cases, but for overall cases unrelated to autism, that statement is quite untrue of the program itself. 42% of resolved claims were awarded compensation, which is higher than claims for medical malpractice.
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Wayne wrote:
To "Friend". Your comments about the NVICP really show that you do not know much about the program. It is true that the NVICP will compensate. The problem is that the vaccine injury table which the court uses for decisions on compensation, continues to change. There are many deaths recorded within a few days to a couple of weeks of children where the court denied compensation. In the court records, the Gov't attorneys blamed other factors yet medical doctors providing testimony for the petitions state otherwise. The Vaccine Court is not a fair, just, or quick resolution of vaccine injuries as Congress intended it to be in 1986. It is a very hostile, aggravating process where over 90% of all filings are dismissed.
friend is a pro-pharma moron who applauds vaccine injury and criticizes parents "who should have known". friend of Pharma never mentions the marketing of vaccines as "safe and effective" or that "side effects are rare and mild". Anything that is beyond rare and mild is therefore rejected as vaccine caused. friend of Pharma also supports and applauds government protectionism of vaccine makers even though they are guilty of crimes against humanity. friend of Pharma thinks compensation reflects the humanitarian nature of Pharma and government, and not part of the scheme to protect makers from being litigated out of business. In short, friend is a goof.

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Winnipeg Canada is a typical angry anti vaxxer only here to disrupt this forum with his many name-changes and attacks on others, who get's his comments deleted by the editors of this forum.
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friend wrote:
Winnipeg Canada is a typical angry anti vaxxer only here to disrupt this forum with his many name-changes and attacks on others, who get's his comments deleted by the editors of this forum.
Yea because friend of Pharma reports me for disagreeing with her.

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Nice try with the blame-game. You're responsible for your own actions and inappropriate disruptive behavior, not me. And look, you still continue to name-call and say untrue things. You just cant control yourself.
Thanks for the example!

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This sites TOS
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friend wrote:
This sites TOS
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So you see, it has nothing to do with me "disagreeing"!
Why are you posting OFF TOPIC material? Whats wrong with you?

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Don't like the evidence, eh? TOS of any site is never off topic, more so when one is violating it. Try reading the terms of service instead of yet another attack.
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To Friend. Your math is incorrect. Try it again.
Reading over 1200 Non autism related cases filed since 2007, the percentage of compensation is below 15%. And many cases are dismissed because of the extreme short 3 year statute of limitations.
Parents are not informed of their options. Doctors will not discuss problems with their patients. Just look at all the HPV cases in the last 2 years. Most of those cases that have been adjudicated, are dismissed. So tell that to the parents who children now are confined to wheelchairs, or who have died. But all have been denied compensation.

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Statue of limitations is different, however it's about the same amount of time to file a claim as for medical malpractice, which can be as little as 6 months to 4 years. Those who files autism-related cases, yes, many of them were beyond that limitation. By 2010, the U.S. Court of Claims had awarded nearly $2 billion dollars to vaccine claims that won over-all, autism or not.

As for the HPV vaccination, that is a total optional vaccine and has nothing to do with this topic forum of autism. For the most part, there is no real evidence of long term injury of that vaccine except hype from anti vaxxer sites. One claim of injury anti vaxxers hyped up prior to autopsy release ended up being an unknown tumor that caused the death.
Vaccine makers have recalled vaccines in the past and it didn't take much for the recalls, either. Need more than anti vaxxer hype for a recall.
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Told you Wayne, friend of Pharma doesn't care. Sociopathic and psychopathic responses every time.

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Whats not polite? I'm using psychological jargon to describe your behavior. They do the very same to label autism.

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