Bipolar Patients Die Nearly a Decade ...

Bipolar Patients Die Nearly a Decade Earlier Than Others

There are 12 comments on the PsychCentral story from Jul 20, 2013, titled Bipolar Patients Die Nearly a Decade Earlier Than Others. In it, PsychCentral reports that:

Females with bipolar disorder die an average of nine years earlier than the general population, and males an average of eight-and-a-half years earlier, according to researchers from Stanford University.

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Mr Blue

United States

#1 Jul 21, 2013
While I'm in NO way suicidal right now, I have made several attempts in the past. I don't want to kill myself right now, but my life isn't so enjoyable that I would be disappointed if I died today. Perhaps some other depression sufferers feel the same way.
All of us work so f----- hard at things that come naturally to others, and the effort is tiring, never-ending and takes a lot from us. Anhedonia (in case you don't know, it means losing interest in things that you used to truly enjoy) is the biggest--and most frustrating--challenge, and I face it daily.
I'm not religious in the least, but when I hear people speaking about their near-death experiences, it sure sounds welcoming! They say things like, "I finally felt happy and unconditionally loved" or, "All of life's answers were crystal clear." These perceptions are likely just our neurons firing wildly as death approaches, but whatever the cause, I hope you don't have to be religious to experience it.
MSGUY

Clinton, MS

#3 Jul 22, 2013
Mr Blue wrote:
While I'm in NO way suicidal right now, I have made several attempts in the past. I don't want to kill myself right now, but my life isn't so enjoyable that I would be disappointed if I died today. Perhaps some other depression sufferers feel the same way.
All of us work so f----- hard at things that come naturally to others, and the effort is tiring, never-ending and takes a lot from us. Anhedonia (in case you don't know, it means losing interest in things that you used to truly enjoy) is the biggest--and most frustrating--challenge, and I face it daily.
I'm not religious in the least, but when I hear people speaking about their near-death experiences, it sure sounds welcoming! They say things like, "I finally felt happy and unconditionally loved" or, "All of life's answers were crystal clear." These perceptions are likely just our neurons firing wildly as death approaches, but whatever the cause, I hope you don't have to be religious to experience it.
Hang in there...prayers being sent your way!!!:). Sincere wishes for a change of heart!! May God bless you and help you in your time of suffering
Caused By VACCINES

Winnipeg, Canada

#4 Jul 22, 2013
BI POLAR is a vaccine side effect.
Mr Blue

United States

#5 Jul 24, 2013
Caused By VACCINES wrote:
BI POLAR is a vaccine side effect.
Interesting, but do you have any empirical evidence to support your claim? So far, all I've come across is anecdotal conclusions from "experts" like Jenny McCarthy. Bi-polar depression is caused by a brain's ineffective use of certain crucial neurotransmitters that affect our moods(primarily dopamine and seratonin,)so perhaps a vaccine could impede the work of these neurotransmitters, or somehow interfere with synaptic firings.

Until I see the results of a monitored clinical study (that survives peer review)that was conducted by a recognized psychiatric institution, I'll remain skeptical. Open-minded, but skeptical.
Mr Blue

United States

#6 Jul 24, 2013
MSGUY wrote:
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Hang in there...prayers being sent your way!!!:). Sincere wishes for a change of heart!! May God bless you and help you in your time of suffering
Thank you MSGUY! I truly wish that I could accept that there really is a God up there who "has my back", but I'm very scientific by nature. As Carl Sagan said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." I mean no offense whatsoever, and am very grateful to you for your caring attitude and kindness, but I've not found a way (yet) to accept that there's a benevolent and all-knowing entity in charge of everything.

What I do know--and have accepted as fact--is that if someone's afflicted with a disease of the mind or body, and realizes that other people are praying for their recovery, it has a VERY positive effect on the recipient's recovery. This has been proven by several scientific studies.

Thanks again for your kindness and prayers on my behalf. I was an alcoholic and pain pill addict, but I've been clean since February, 2012. My doctors tell me that it can take up to 2 years before all of the toxins have been purged from my system. Given that, maybe my moods and outlook on life will start to improve over the next 8 months or so.

All my best to you...Kevin
AFRAID OF JENNY

Winnipeg, Canada

#7 Jul 24, 2013
Mr Blue wrote:
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Interesting, but do you have any empirical evidence to support your claim? So far, all I've come across is anecdotal conclusions from "experts" like Jenny McCarthy. Bi-polar depression is caused by a brain's ineffective use of certain crucial neurotransmitters that affect our moods(primarily dopamine and seratonin,)so perhaps a vaccine could impede the work of these neurotransmitters, or somehow interfere with synaptic firings.
Until I see the results of a monitored clinical study (that survives peer review)that was conducted by a recognized psychiatric institution, I'll remain skeptical. Open-minded, but skeptical.
Vaccines cause genetic mutation which leads to obvoius malfunctions including causing ADHD, Autism, Bi Polar and physical illness and autoimmune dysfunction. Vaccine side effects include MS, ALS, anaphylatic response, allergies, arthitis, diabetes, anorexia and much more. Research it, read vaccine inserts and vaccine safety studies that list many like anorexia, deafness etc.
Nutz

Johannesburg, South Africa

#8 Jul 25, 2013
Pity there is no vaccine against Bipolar...I would be number 1 in the queue. Frankly though, I am skeptical about these comments.
WHO TO TRUST

Winnipeg, Canada

#9 Jul 26, 2013
Nutz wrote:
Pity there is no vaccine against Bipolar...I would be number 1 in the queue. Frankly though, I am skeptical about these comments.
Only a fool would use a vaccine for it. When you have no idea what causes it how could you develop a vaccine? It would have to be caused by a viral agent and no one has identified one. Rather, science is liking mental illness to digestion/gut issues and immune system disregulation, two things known to be vaccine side effects.
Mr Blue

United States

#10 Jul 27, 2013
AFRAID OF JENNY wrote:
<quoted text>Vaccines cause genetic mutation which leads to obvoius malfunctions including causing ADHD, Autism, Bi Polar and physical illness and autoimmune dysfunction. Vaccine side effects include MS, ALS, anaphylatic response, allergies, arthitis, diabetes, anorexia and much more. Research it, read vaccine inserts and vaccine safety studies that list many like anorexia, deafness etc.
Then I would ask you too to provide me with some hard data because if these vaccine links you suggest are true, then I want to look into them. While I could easily agree on seeing some anaphylatic responses directly related to a vaccine, I would need an empirical study to agree with the rest of your claims.
Mr Blue

United States

#11 Jul 27, 2013
Nutz wrote:
Pity there is no vaccine against Bipolar...I would be number 1 in the queue. Frankly though, I am skeptical about these comments.
You mean you don't enjoy trying different meds for 6 - 8 weeks only to learn they're ineffective for you!? And then staying on a "somewhat" effective med(s) for a couple of months just so the doc can find the therapeutic dosage that's best for you? And who wouldn't love having to start this process all over again once the med(s) become ineffective after 6 +/- months of usage?

Or the all-time favorite advice for depression sufferers everywhere--that's usually given by family, friends or spouses--that says, "Just snap out of it! I know you can do it!"

I know, it sucks! I'd be right behind you in that bi-polar vaccine line my friend.
Afraid Of Jenny

Winnipeg, Canada

#12 Jul 27, 2013
Mr Blue wrote:
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Then I would ask you too to provide me with some hard data because if these vaccine links you suggest are true, then I want to look into them. While I could easily agree on seeing some anaphylatic responses directly related to a vaccine, I would need an empirical study to agree with the rest of your claims.
I care little if you agree. I'm pointing it out. The science is both there and evolving, but disputed between victims and perpetrators.
Mr Blue

United States

#13 Jul 27, 2013
Afraid Of Jenny wrote:
<quoted text>I care little if you agree. I'm pointing it out. The science is both there and evolving, but disputed between victims and perpetrators.
Okay Afraid of Jenny. Thank you for providing me the link to the vaccine studies, I'll be sure to look at their findings to see if any of the vaccinations I've been given during my life are problematic.

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