10 things fertility clinics won't tel...

10 things fertility clinics won't tell you

There are 40 comments on the New York Post story from Jun 8, 2014, titled 10 things fertility clinics won't tell you. In it, New York Post reports that:

American women are becoming moms later than ever before, thanks to improvements in fertility treatments and women's advancements in higher education and careers, which have opened up more opportunities while also creating obstacles to starting a family.

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pailrider

Scunthorpe, UK

#1 Jun 9, 2014
One other thing they will hold back from you, it will be men probing your partner, if you allow them!
ENLIGHTENED HUSBAND

Norwich, UK

#2 Sep 30, 2014
Even if the Male IVF Specialists is 'professional'... no one, YOU nor ME, can really know for sure, the thought processes that may occur in his mind when a completely healthy, fit, perfect body, gorgeous woman walks into his office, in a pretty dress willing to have a pelvic (Vagina) examination... then she willingly exposes her inner thighs, her bare inner thighs, her (sometimes) wet vagina to his command. I personally (even if I were a completely trained professional), can't help but think I would be VERY aware of the female beauty before my eyes. Nobody can say what's going through a male doctor's mind during this situation and that is not the point here either...

The point is... if the Male Fertility Specialist were polite, professional, did his job well, if a Wife dislikes the intimate examination or procedure, if he were quick, etc... Those things don't matter, it's is a primal response deep within the gut, the heart rate rises and the stomach jumps into the throat at the thought of it! It's not some intellectual conclusion I've reached after weighing up the 'pros' and 'cons' for via several weeks of study. Your Wife disrobing nude (or with a sheet) and being examined and touched intimately and deeply by another man is simply not acceptable.

If a Wife goes against a man feeling this way, then the Husband will resent the Wife for sure, they may even divorce. I'm not sure any woman would 'insist' that she sees a male doctor. She'd be crazy if she did!

If you don't mind that your Wife permits another man to examine your wife like this, then that is between you and her. I believe that this thread is exploring the feelings of many men faced the prospect of very 'intimate' and 'prevalent' procedures being performed by men on their Wives. I believe most men don't like, and don't want this problem within their lives, some just won't admit, or face up to it.

To sum up... some of us just aren't ok with a male performing these types of procedures on women that we love (daughters included). In some ways, it is hard to even explain exactly what it is that upsets us about it? It's quite simply a 'violation' to our wives/daughters. Even if he isn't 'getting off' on it... it is still a terrible violation. I guess it affects different people in different degrees. Some feel uncomfortable, some dislike it a lot and some are completely opposed to it therefore all this should be taken into consideration before placing your wife in the hands of a Male Fertility Specialist.

Just imagine the access the Male Specialist has to your Wife when she is asleep on the operating table and in that situation you are kept out!
pailrider

Scunthorpe, UK

#3 Sep 30, 2014
There will be queues of male doctors waiting to gain the experience..of a fit body.
CHRIS

Chatham, NY

#5 Sep 30, 2014
Its become the newest place for male gynos to hide. Though with the majority of graduating obgyn residents being woman, it won't be long until you have all female fertility clinics !
pailrider

Scunthorpe, UK

#9 Sep 30, 2014
ENLIGHTENED HUSBAND

Norwich, UK

#10 Oct 2, 2014
Maybe you think that male fertility specialists get bored of vagina? Well, do porn stars get bored of vagina? After all, they are exposed to female genitalia regularly just like the male fertility specialist. If male porn stars do get bored, then how do they reach orgasm? I'm sure men can't fake that during a scene?

The truth is actually the opposite... visual sexual stimulation is actually addictive to male human beings, like 'drug'. The more they see, the more they want to see! That's 1000's of years of mother nature's evolution that's seen to that!

I think you need to do a little research on human psychology and sociology my dear friend. Arousal is an issue within Med-Schools here in the UK, male doctors are trained to hide it rather than try to repress it, as that's know to be pretty much impossible for a red-blooded man to do.

And... if ladies 'loose their sexual appeal' then how does the Male 'OBGYN doctor' create a family with his Wife? IVF also? No, I don't think so!

ALSO: with regards to the 'cough test with a female nurse/doctor'... do you not know that women are wired differently when it comes to sexual stimulation? A woman is more emotionally aroused (by love etc) a man is VERY easily visually aroused.

I really think we all need to do some research on human sexual reproduction, evolution of man, psychology and sociology before going into the IVF circus.

Women make better fertility specialists, women have always took care of each other in that way up until the last decade or so. It was a male gynecologist who invented the vibrator which was actually used to 'treat' women within the doctor's office, bringing them to orgasm!(TRUTH). I can't imaging any female gynecologist inventing such a 'tool' to 'treat' men during visits to their female doctor.

Men can be extremely manipulative and very clever at taking advantage of the 'power imbalance' within the doctor/patient relationship.'Good' doctors also become VERY good at concealing sexual arousal.

Even if some Male fertility specialists seem professional... no one, YOU or ME, can really know, for sure, a male doctor's thought processes when a completely healthy, fit, perfect body, gorgeous woman walks into his office, in a pretty dress for a pelvic/breast examination... then exposes her inner thighs, her sexy butt cheeks, her (sometimes) wet vagina and her beautifully formed breasts tipped with perfect nipples to his command. I personally (even if I were a completely trained professional), can't help but think I would be VERY aware of the 'sexual beauty' before my eyes!
CHRIS

Bedford, MA

#11 Oct 2, 2014
Woman are wired differently. The hernia check can be done with underwear on, I've had many hernia checks done this way when I was In school and a hernia check was done prior to being allowed to play sports. The area checked is on the lower torso right above where the leg meets the torso and next to the scrotum. The scrotum is not touched and doesn't need to be seen. I've seen a lot of people ,mostly woman for some reason who try and compare the hernia check to a pelvic/bimanual exam, night and day. I would much rather have a male doctor perform a hernia check on my wife with under wear on then a do a pelvic exam, Her V wouldn't be seen or touched. It was male doctors who invented vibrators, prior to vibrators they (male doctors) used their own fingers (no gloves then) to give their female patients an O to cure female Hysteria, which is a medical condition male doctors "made up" so they could give the "cure." So male doctors have a long history of this.
CHRIS

Bedford, MA

#12 Oct 2, 2014
Men and woman are wired differently . Or to say it another way , male sexuality works different then a female sexuality does.
ENLIGHTENED HUSBAND

Norwich, UK

#13 Oct 2, 2014
"When your Wife goes to her male fertility specialist, you take the risk of your wife forming an accidental 'hormonal' bond with her doctor. This can break to your marriage!"

Please read on...

The hormone 'Oxytocin'(which can be easily released into the patient's bloodstream through accidental stimulation of the patient's cervix during fertility examinations). Oxytocin is a natural hormone within every woman which will make your wife feel calmness, trust, respect and even love for her doctor who triggered the release of the hormone within your wife! Doctors are very knowledgeable about the Oxytocin hormone release and fully understand how it can affect their female patients.

"OXYTOCIN: is a powerful hormone and a neurotransmitter within the brain. This hormone plays a huge role in pair bonding (mating). This hormone is released during stimulation to female reproductive organs. Oxytocin is commonly described as the 'hormone of love'. This tiny chemical, released from the hypothalamus region of the brain, gives rat mothers the urge to nurse their pups, keeps male prairie voles monogamous and, even more remarkable, makes people instantly trust and love each other." BEWARE!
pailrider

Scunthorpe, UK

#16 Oct 3, 2014
See jock' he will put you right...http://www.topix.com/f orum/world/united-kingdom/TEFJ 7S1OQ3FOT8FPN/p11#lastPost
ENLIGHTENED HUSBAND

Norwich, UK

#19 Oct 7, 2014
pailrider wrote:
See jock' he will put you right...http://www.topix.com/f orum/world/united-kingdom/TEFJ 7S1OQ3FOT8FPN/p11#lastPost
This link is showing as 'not found'. Can you please tell me what it was about pailrider?
pailrider

Scunthorpe, UK

#20 Oct 10, 2014
EH he's been giving me stick on a UK thread for weeks, gone quiet this week?

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/united-kingd...
lives

Spain

#32 Jul 24, 2015
infertility solution contact ([email protected]
JxP728

United States

#33 Jul 25, 2015
For starters, would you trust any thing the fox guarding the hen house says?
At best all Drs, like any other business, are trying to attract more customers and protect their jobs, and sell you as much services as possible. At worst they abuse their position for their own gain. Power corrupts. Normal male gynos are as human as any other normal man, dispite all their education and experience, and will respond to an attractive naked woman/girl, they just have to pretend/resist displaying any sexual feelings.
Even though I concur with the other men writing in this and other threads who are totaly opposed to male gynos. My issue is with the women who go to male gynos.
As I see it, you are paying to present yourself, exposing your most entament parts of your body to another man, to be felt up, groped, and finally fingered, all in the name of medicine. For an 90+ year old examination that has next to no chance of finding anything wrong when the patient has no symptoms, and you can do most of it yourself. Why are the rest of your organs not examined unless you feel something wrong? These exams are not much different to concentual sex and they expect their husbands to OK with it.
 https://www.google.com/search ?site=&oq=unsessary&aq s=mobile-gws-lite.0.0l5&q= necessary+roughness#q=unnecess ary+pelvic+exams
There is only one other profession where a member of one sex pays to be naked with a member of the other sex and have so much physical contact?
thenose

Lockport, NY

#34 Jul 25, 2015
JxP728 wrote:
For starters, would you trust any thing the fox guarding the hen house says?
At best all Drs, like any other business, are trying to attract more customers and protect their jobs, and sell you as much services as possible. At worst they abuse their position for their own gain. Power corrupts. Normal male gynos are as human as any other normal man, dispite all their education and experience, and will respond to an attractive naked woman/girl, they just have to pretend/resist displaying any sexual feelings.
Even though I concur with the other men writing in this and other threads who are totaly opposed to male gynos. My issue is with the women who go to male gynos.
As I see it, you are paying to present yourself, exposing your most entament parts of your body to another man, to be felt up, groped, and finally fingered, all in the name of medicine. For an 90+ year old examination that has next to no chance of finding anything wrong when the patient has no symptoms, and you can do most of it yourself. Why are the rest of your organs not examined unless you feel something wrong? These exams are not much different to concentual sex and they expect their husbands to OK with it.
 https://www.google.com/search ?site=&oq=unsessary&aq s=mobile-gws-lite.0.0l5&q= necessary+roughness#q=unnecess ary+pelvic+exams
There is only one other profession where a member of one sex pays to be naked with a member of the other sex and have so much physical contact?
ANOTHER ONE WHO GIVES MEDICAL ADVICE DESPITE HAVING NO MEDICAL DEGREES, YEAH, OK LISTEN TO THE ADVICE OF THESE MEDICAL FETISH FOOLS WHO HANGE HERE 24/7 AND GET MAD AT ANYONE WHO HAS AN OPINION THAT COUNTER ACTS THEIR BELIEF SYSTEM. SICK TWISTED MINDS WHO ATTEMPT TO GIVE MEDICAL ADVICE.

HERE’S A GOOD SITE FOR YOU GUYS:
FOR ALL YOUR MEDICAL FIETISH NEEDS:

http://www.medicaltoys.com/
pailrider

Scunthorpe, UK

#36 Jul 25, 2015
WARSAW - Another MALE DOCTOR SEXUALLY EXPLOITING CHILDREN..doesn't get any better, does it.

The Indiana State Police reports a former doctor from Warsaw was arrested and charged July 23, 2015 with four felony counts of child exploitation and a single count of sexual misconduct with a minor. The release states Mark Jensen, who's 62, was placed under investigation following information supplied by the Fulton County Division of the Indiana Department of Child Services. The information was that an adult man had possibly performed a sex act with an underage boy.

The investigation determined in November of 2012 Jensen allegedly committed a sex act on a 14-year-old boy from Kosciusko County. Jensen also allegedly videotaped the same boy while he was nude. This activity is said to have purportedly happened at a hunting cabin in Akron, Indiana.

The ongoing investigation also revealed an alleged incident in July of 2010, at the same hunting cabin, where Jensen is suspected of videotaping a 17-year-old boy from Kosciusko County while he was nude.

Jensen was processed at the Fulton County Jail where he posted $40,000 bond.
thnose

Lockport, NY

#37 Jul 26, 2015
CHRIS wrote:
Men and woman are wired differently . Or to say it another way , male sexuality works different then a female sexuality does.
You can say that again...... both want and need sex and rape,

Woman are just better at keeping it hidden.... and get away with it, and get lighter sentences if caught
pailrider

Nottingham, UK

#40 Aug 13, 2015
pailrider wrote:
There will be queues of male doctors waiting to gain the experience..of a fit body.
Johns Hopkins, one of the world's most prestigious medical institutions, has agreed to pay..........190 million to settle claims by thousands of women against a MALE Gynecologist..........
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Who used a tiny camera to surreptitiously make hundreds of videos and photos of patients.

Levy was fired last year after a female co-worker came forward with her suspicions. He was forced to turn over the pen-like camera he'd used, and he committed suicide days later.
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Investigators discovered about 1,200 videos and 140 female images stored on computer servers in his home, abused women.
thenose

Buffalo, NY

#41 Aug 13, 2015
pailrider wrote:
WARSAW - Another MALE DOCTOR SEXUALLY EXPLOITING CHILDREN..doesn't get any better, does it.
The Indiana State Police reports a former doctor from Warsaw was arrested and charged July 23, 2015 with four felony counts of child exploitation and a single count of sexual misconduct with a minor. The release states Mark Jensen, who's 62, was placed under investigation following information supplied by the Fulton County Division of the Indiana Department of Child Services. The information was that an adult man had possibly performed a sex act with an underage boy.
The investigation determined in November of 2012 Jensen allegedly committed a sex act on a 14-year-old boy from Kosciusko County. Jensen also allegedly videotaped the same boy while he was nude. This activity is said to have purportedly happened at a hunting cabin in Akron, Indiana.
The ongoing investigation also revealed an alleged incident in July of 2010, at the same hunting cabin, where Jensen is suspected of videotaping a 17-year-old boy from Kosciusko County while he was nude.
Jensen was processed at the Fulton County Jail where he posted $40,000 bond.
IN THIS CASE THE MALE DOCTOR WOULD BE IN THE 1%
AS WE ALL KNOW THE MEDIA AND STATISTICS THAT FEMALES DO MOST OF THE SEXUAL EXPLOITATION OF LITTLE BOYS AND YOUNG MEN...
COME ON PAIL... THE HUNDREDS OF POSTS I HAVE MADE AND YOU HAVEN'T LEARNED ANYTHING?
pailrider

Nottingham, UK

#42 Aug 14, 2015
pailrider wrote:
One other thing they will hold back from you, it will be men probing your partner, if you allow them!
Witness testimony and graphic pictures depicting the horrible abuse on hundreds of young victims as young as 8 years old. The children all raped and sexually abused by a doctor they say lured them in on the premise of a child growth study.

This is the first of 93 lawsuits filed by John and Jane Doe's who claim St. Francis hospital failed to protect them and supervise doctors visits where the abuse took place. The first plaintiff John Doe 2 says Reardon sometimes wore a pistol in a shoulder holster beneath his lab coat during the so-called examinations.

For 30 years the hospital's chief endocrinologist, Dr. George Reardon would take pictures and video of his lurid acts but the proof wouldn't surface for decades and years after Reardon died.

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