Doctors may have found a way to destr...

Doctors may have found a way to destroy HIV

There are 20 comments on the www.fox11az.com story from Aug 1, 2008, titled Doctors may have found a way to destroy HIV. In it, www.fox11az.com reports that:

There is real hope that what's happening in a Houston lab might lead to a cure for HIV.

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“STFU”

Since: May 07

Atlanta, GA

#2 Aug 1, 2008
Though this sounds promising, I've seen too many such "breakthroughs" eventually not pan out.
rushtoad

Seattle, WA

#3 Aug 1, 2008
Here's a link that provides a bit more useful info than the Fox TV affiliate.

http://www.uthouston.edu/media/newsreleases/n...
Ole-Sammy-Obammy -Bin-Lyin

Brownsville, TX

#5 Aug 1, 2008
I certainly hope this works. I wonder if they have looked at genetically re-engineering T-cells to actually be immune to the virus and then turn around and attack it?

“Created Equal”

Since: Feb 08

USA

#6 Aug 1, 2008
But this doesn't address the heart of the problem. According to the last five years of research on the virus and how it affects the body, the most serious damage to the immune system is done within days of infection, including irreperable intestinal damage.

I'm all for a cure, but a pre-infection vaccine is really what we need even more at this point.

“Yes, you can die of stupidity.”

Since: Nov 07

Huntington Station

#7 Aug 1, 2008
What are the evolutionary consequences of creating such a vaccine though?

“Choose wisely!”

Since: Jul 07

Los Angeles

#8 Aug 1, 2008
Let's hope this pans out. Imagine that you block this receptor, preventing HIV from infecting a host cell. Any new HIV virions emerging from infected cells, are now also blocked from infecting new cells. That patient stays on their cocktail to assist in preventing HIV replication though transscriptase inhibitors, reverse transscriptase inhibitors and protease inhibitors, etc. which further destroy HIV's ability to replicate in infected cells. In time, all the infected cells die, naturally or from HIV. The body replaces them with non-infected cells because HIV has been prevented from infecting them.

In a matter of year, you could wipe out HIV in infected people.

The one remaining problem, is preventing NEW infections.

The mentality of so many young gay men is that if they get infected, they'll just take the pills and be fine. We have never adequately found a way to get people to use condoms 100% of the time.

Further, this regimen MUST be made available for free, to 3rd world nations where HIV infection remains the highest.

A preventative vaccine is still needed but as a treatment, IF (and only if) this pans out, you could eliminate HIV.

Eric

“Yes, you can die of stupidity.”

Since: Nov 07

Huntington Station

#10 Aug 2, 2008
Jimmy Burke wrote:
Aids needs to run its' course and rid the world of useless eaters in the turd world.
Must be in Canadian because I have no idea what you just said.

“Created Equal”

Since: Feb 08

USA

#11 Aug 3, 2008
LI Watch wrote:
What are the evolutionary consequences of creating such a vaccine though?
The evolutionary consequences? Meaning what? The consequences to humanity, or the consequences to the global ecosystem?

...because it seems to me that we have pretty much made that choice already. while it is obviously important to our own survival that we take an interest as stewards of the global ecosystem,(a reaponsibility which we humans have traditionally demonstrated a very low inclination towards) "evolution" implies a response to the forces of natural selection, which we've been using our intelligence to thwart since the development of fire. We as a species put out own survival above that of any other species (plant, animal, or microbe) on the planet.

If we were to say, "Oh, this virus is a natural thing, and should be allowed to run it's course as part of the evolutionary process," we would be acting in contrary to our own survival as a species, which would simply be insane. We have been developing vaccines for viruses for decades, and we embrace every medical procedure which preserves and extends human life, from washing our hands to selectively irradiating our skulls for the elimination of metastatic brain tumors.

In protecting the weak and less well adapted individuals of our species, we have all but muted the forces of natural selection from a biological standpoint. Now, human evolution is about money. Who can afford the medications and surgery, and who can't? If you have the money, you live... if not, you die.

Personally, I think there's something flawed in that. World economies are inextricably interwoven with agriculture and ecology, and if we fail to maintain an ecological balance, then all the currency will make no difference. You can't eat gold.

So, my answer to your question, as I understand it, is that an HIV vaccine would prevent future infections, essentially arresting HIV in it's tracks. A cure for those already infected would eliminate it's infectios potential entirely, and remove the economic factors, bringing us closer to an ecological --as opposed to economic--relationship with natural selection and evolution, which would be a step in the right direction.

“Created Equal”

Since: Feb 08

USA

#12 Aug 3, 2008
Jimmy Burke wrote:
Aids needs to run its' course and rid the world of useless eaters in the turd world.
Idiot, viruses do not discriminate. I hope your kids die of Polio.

“Yes, you can die of stupidity.”

Since: Nov 07

Huntington Station

#13 Aug 3, 2008
ScottyMatic wrote:
<quoted text>
The evolutionary consequences? Meaning what? The consequences to humanity, or the consequences to the global ecosystem?
...because it seems to me that we have pretty much made that choice already. while it is obviously important to our own survival that we take an interest as stewards of the global ecosystem,(a reaponsibility which we humans have traditionally demonstrated a very low inclination towards) "evolution" implies a response to the forces of natural selection, which we've been using our intelligence to thwart since the development of fire. We as a species put out own survival above that of any other species (plant, animal, or microbe) on the planet.
If we were to say, "Oh, this virus is a natural thing, and should be allowed to run it's course as part of the evolutionary process," we would be acting in contrary to our own survival as a species, which would simply be insane. We have been developing vaccines for viruses for decades, and we embrace every medical procedure which preserves and extends human life, from washing our hands to selectively irradiating our skulls for the elimination of metastatic brain tumors.
In protecting the weak and less well adapted individuals of our species, we have all but muted the forces of natural selection from a biological standpoint. Now, human evolution is about money. Who can afford the medications and surgery, and who can't? If you have the money, you live... if not, you die.
Personally, I think there's something flawed in that. World economies are inextricably interwoven with agriculture and ecology, and if we fail to maintain an ecological balance, then all the currency will make no difference. You can't eat gold.
So, my answer to your question, as I understand it, is that an HIV vaccine would prevent future infections, essentially arresting HIV in it's tracks. A cure for those already infected would eliminate it's infectios potential entirely, and remove the economic factors, bringing us closer to an ecological --as opposed to economic--relationship with natural selection and evolution, which would be a step in the right direction.
No no, you misunderstood what I meant. I meant the evolution of the virus is you create a vaccine.

“Yes, you can die of stupidity.”

Since: Nov 07

Huntington Station

#14 Aug 3, 2008
*if you create

“AgO3 Makes Vaccines Obsolete”

Since: Mar 07

Chickamauga

#15 Aug 3, 2008
Despite special interests having such sway over how we net the news, one bit of news is getting out anyway, even if they had to do a documentary on it, and they are editing the footage as we read.

UPCOSH is relieving many of us who have feared AIDS, MRSA, MALARIA and many other abbreviated symptomologies. Recent clinical trials now under way in Uganda is adding more proof to the 100% success record of UPCOSH.

What is disturbing is that Dr. Carr has proven this years ago. WHO funded in vivo HIV/AIDS study; Dr. George Carr, Belize,

Goal: Project goal is to eliminate HIV within all systems of the body and to prevent its transmission.

Eligibility Criteria: Anyone having two separate HIV-positive test results, as detected through countrywide screening.

Sample Size: A total of (100) one-hundred clients have been chosen, each having two confirmed positive test results.

Data Management and Analysis Laboratory Methods Testing:

Algorithm: Two positive tests, Elisa and HIV Check.

Protocol: Development of HIV treatment management.

Objective of Study: To be able to monitor improvement of clients treated with UPCOSH over a given period of time.

Methodology of Evaluation: Interview with all clients, studying and re-testing each client’s status after 3 months, 6 months, 12 months, 18 months, and 24 months.

Results: At this time, all the clients who have returned for re-testing are now HIV undetectable. Two couples who tested HIV-positive became HIV undetectable after treatment with APeX, and after each couple resumed normal sexual activities, the females gave birth to babies with no HIV antibodies.

And more on UPCOSH:

Belsar Laboratories, London, England

21 HIV/AIDS patients were tested and treated / 10 HIV patients, 11 AIDS patients,.

All patients treated and released with no viral detection.

Aren't you a bit concerned that this was not told to you a long time ago? Isn't it obvious who is responsible for the cover-up? How many people died, needlessly, because they were not informed of this? People you know? NASA knows all about this in space - the technology used to make UPCOSH is being used on the ISS.

Suppose this will be censored here? I hope not...I'm going to give the folks of this forum the benefit of the doubt and trust that they will not censor this life-saving information from the members here.

While this has been getting posted all over the internet for awhile now, and lots of press releases have been sent to the various news agencies, the mainstream media has chosen to censor this information. Public outcry is changing that.
confused

Columbus, OH

#18 Jan 3, 2012
I have contracted HIV. I have been made aware of this information. Can you imagine being told you can cure your disease with no side affects. It's amazing news but how can I trust this. I realize I have a deadly virus in my body but I have not heard from one actual survivor. The same few studies get republished over and over. These are old studies, or small studies that are very questionable. I want this to be real. I have been on an emotional roller coaster since I contracted the disease. But what if I try it and I am scammed? Out of money or I find out I've done something worse to my system than already exists. How can I take that risk? I don't want to read testimonials. How can I trust them? I want to hear from real people that will show their faces and say "I did this and it works." All I see are conspiracy theorists banging on about a cure but none of them seem to have a disease that needs cured. Have any of them tried these formulas? How do I know they are not motivated just to take my money and send me a bunch of bottles of water. This is not a diet pill. This is my life threatening disease. I will take it and get my hopes up and if it does nothing or makes me more sick, then what? I am sick to my stomach over this carrot that is dangling in front of me promising so much. The story always goes in these situations that it's too good to be true. Why should I believe anything else? Please someone give me the proof or put me in touch with a person that has been cured.

Since: Jan 12

Germany

#20 Jan 5, 2012
Hi dear there is no known cure for the intruder we have its mostly a scam by some cold hearted person who has no idea what we go thru best is accept your status, eat healthy, take your arv,s and live positive it,s no longer a death sentence if we tae care of ourself staystrong and long life
confused

Columbus, OH

#21 Jan 5, 2012
Thanks lonelyheart2012. its shocking to me that people would align themselves with holistic medicine, point fingers at the money grubbing pharma companies as a scam but actually they are the scammers preying on people who are already struggling with a deadly disease. It's not a death sentence. You are right. I just wish someone would expose this for what it is and save others from this scam.

“Choose wisely!”

Since: Jul 07

Los Angeles

#23 Feb 6, 2012
LI Watch wrote:
What are the evolutionary consequences of creating such a vaccine though?
What are the evolutionary consequences of forging iron into steel?

What are the evolutionary consequences of polluting our water, air and food?

We know the evolutionary consequence of antibiotics, they lead to resistance which leads to human death and suffering (remember that next time you have a cold or flu and ask your doctor for antibiotics - what a waste).

If left on its own, HIV, SIV, FIV and others immunodeficiency viruses, would find ways to NOT kill their host, because the goal of a living thing, is to keep living and a virus like HIV, can't live if it kills all of its hosts (us).

The evolutionary consequence would be for HIV to mutate into a more lethal form or as is more likely, a less lethal and manageable form, which neither harms nor helps its host.

Or you might have meant that you were, in a most cowardly fashion, trying to say that you wish for the death of all homosexuals. Sadly, throughout human history, heterosexuals keep breeding us into existence.

Homosexuals exist because heterosexuals have sex! That IS the evolutionary consequence no one can avoid.

Eric

Since: Sep 11

Gurgaon, India

#26 Feb 9, 2012
If there is effectfull HIV vaccine, it must be a good news for the world...
Peter

Delhi, India

#27 Apr 9, 2012
Plz give your suggetion for wheel chair..

FaFoxy

“ WOOF !”

Since: Oct 10

Coolidge, AZ

#28 Apr 9, 2012
gemelk wrote:
<quoted text>
What are the evolutionary consequences of forging iron into steel?
What are the evolutionary consequences of polluting our water, air and food?
We know the evolutionary consequence of antibiotics, they lead to resistance which leads to human death and suffering (remember that next time you have a cold or flu and ask your doctor for antibiotics - what a waste).
If left on its own, HIV, SIV, FIV and others immunodeficiency viruses, would find ways to NOT kill their host, because the goal of a living thing, is to keep living and a virus like HIV, can't live if it kills all of its hosts (us).
The evolutionary consequence would be for HIV to mutate into a more lethal form or as is more likely, a less lethal and manageable form, which neither harms nor helps its host.
Or you might have meant that you were, in a most cowardly fashion, trying to say that you wish for the death of all homosexuals. Sadly, throughout human history, heterosexuals keep breeding us into existence.
Homosexuals exist because heterosexuals have sex! That IS the evolutionary consequence no one can avoid.
Eric
Sure there is. People can stop reproducing, or at least reproduce at a negative human population growth rate. It would certainly benefit ALL life forms on the planet. In fact there is a group pushing voluntary human extinction. Humans are undoubtedly the worst thing that ever happened to life on this planet.
Kolies

Omaha, NE

#29 Apr 10, 2012
FaFoxy wrote:
<quoted text>
....... Humans are undoubtedly the worst thing that ever happened to life on this planet.
BWAHAHAHAHA!!! What are maroon!!!

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