Blood drive to challenge ban on donations from gays

Jul 11, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Reporter

Gay men across the nation plan to offer to donate their blood Friday, even though they expect to be turned away.

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Do they not test all blood?

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I really wish that they would hold off on this push for a few more years.
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NO GAY BLOOD!

Keep our blood clean!

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equalityboy81 wrote:
Do they not test all blood?
Actually, no they don't. Also, even with gay people banned from donating blood and plasma a lot of contaminated blood has been found in the supply. A little factoid often ignored by bigots is that there was a rash of AIDS cases in which the victims were infected due to transfusions in hospitals a while back, thus resulting in hospitals now only giving transfusions if there is no other option.
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I only want white, straight blood. Is that too much to ask for?

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me wrote:
I only want white, straight blood. Is that too much to ask for?
You're so silly. Blood doesn't have races, only types. And it sure doesn't have a sexual orientation. So, yes, it's too much to ask for. Get over it or don't get hurt where you need blood.

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There's a reason Queers can't donate blood. Deal with it.
There's a reason you don't make any sense (Hint: Mommy and Daddy were already closely - very closely - related before getting married). Deal with it.

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Pepper wrote:
There's a reason Queers can't donate blood. Deal with it.
Yeah, a STUPID reason. Test ALL blood, obviously.

Gay people can donate all the blood we want. They only stop us if we SAY we're gay. How many gay people do you suppose know their health status is fine, and so simply LIE in order to participate in the civic duty to donate? Not much of a firewall.

If REASON is something you value, then make sure they're GOOD reasons which make sense.

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I gave blood twice a year for many, many years. I stopped when they enacted the ban. My spouse and I had tests for aids on a yearly basis, not because we fooled around outside our marriage, we didn't, but because we weren't sure how long the gestation period was. Since that time I have decided to only provide blood to people I know, or that have been shown to support the cause of Equality. That will not change for me even if they do lift the ban. I know my blood is good and disease free, but if I'm not familiar with the person or their feelings on Equality, I will with hold my blood. If their life ends through my with holding of blood, it can be the price they pay for a bigoted society. And I have no qualms about it.

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Yeah, a STUPID reason. Test ALL blood, obviously.
Gay people can donate all the blood we want. They only stop us if we SAY we're gay. How many gay people do you suppose know their health status is fine, and so simply LIE in order to participate in the civic duty to donate? Not much of a firewall.
If REASON is something you value, then make sure they're GOOD reasons which make sense.
But if the lie ever comes out to them you could end up in a lot of legal trouble especially if your blood ended up not being clean like you thought it was. They should test ALL blood anyway.

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The Shadow wrote:
That's nothing new, Queers lie constantly.
Yeah, I'm telling a lie right now. Oh! Paradox!

People from Virginia are also all slanderous liars, did you know that? Every last one of them. Stupid, too. No such thing as an honest, intelligent Virginian, never was.

Hey, false blanket generalizations are fun! Brainless, compassionless talk like that MUST be good for fostering a more cooperative society. How could it NOT be?
The Shadow wrote:
From simple things like that to being a closet Queer.
I think it's perfectly fine to lie in order to fulfill an important civic duty, especially in the face of such a moronic, unenforceable rule.

Don't you think that they should be testing ALL blood, regardless of who it came from? Maybe you're ok with catching diseases, as long as they come from straight people.

As far as lying to be in the closet, I'm sure your friendly tone and welcoming attitude will encourage more gay people to open up to you with honest insight into their lives. Being a prick of a xenophobe would NEVER inspire anyone to cut you out of the loop of open communication, for the sake of keeping the peace.

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61% of all aids victims in the United States are among the gay population. Furthermore, is is contagious at any stage... but the infected typically don't know for months! As for the testing, early infections are never caught. That is why those who engage in high-risk behavior are banned from donation blood.(And to be fair just being out of the country a few times can get you banned, being in the military, beef consumption in the U.K. etc....)

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Spirit of 1776 wrote:
61% of all aids victims in the United States are among the gay population. Furthermore, is is contagious at any stage... but the infected typically don't know for months! As for the testing, early infections are never caught. That is why those who engage in high-risk behavior are banned from donation blood.(And to be fair just being out of the country a few times can get you banned, being in the military, beef consumption in the U.K. etc....)
Not right, but I can understand how you could misread that data.

@ 60% of all NEW cases of HIV infection are among MSM (not necessarily gay), mostly poor, innercity persons of color.

What this means is that the young ethnic population isn't getting the message, aren't educated enough to understand the message, or are just not listening.

Remember, too, that the data is collected mostly from innercity free clinics, so the data will tend to be skewed in the direction of those populations.

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Spirit of 1776 wrote:
61% of all aids victims in the United States are among the gay population. Furthermore, is is contagious at any stage... but the infected typically don't know for months! As for the testing, early infections are never caught. That is why those who engage in high-risk behavior are banned from donation blood.(And to be fair just being out of the country a few times can get you banned, being in the military, beef consumption in the U.K. etc....)
Well my spouse of 40 years and I have sex with no one but each other. Our blood is clear of disease. Don't worry about us trying to help save one bigots' life, cause it won't happen. And luckily for us, we can give blood to each other, and to those who mean the most to us, because we are both universal blood types. The rest of you can beg, borrow or steal the blood wherever you want, but we wouldn't give it to you if you were bleeding to death on the floor right in front of us. We would step right over your body and go to a cocktail party.

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FDA spokeswoman Morgan Liscinsky said the agency strives to balance the need for blood with the need to keep the supply safe. She wrote in an email that men who have had sex with other men continue to have the highest rates of HIV infection. Such men represent about 2 percent of the country’s population, she wrote, but in 2010 they accounted for at least 61 percent of all new HIV infections.

Liscinsky noted that the FDA also requires that blood donations be barred from other groups of people, including those who have used intravenous drugs, worked as prostitutes, have hepatitis or traveled to countries with high risks of malaria or mad-cow disease
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/2013...

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Spirit of 1776 wrote:
FDA spokeswoman Morgan Liscinsky said the agency strives to balance the need for blood with the need to keep the supply safe. She wrote in an email that men who have had sex with other men continue to have the highest rates of HIV infection. Such men represent about 2 percent of the country’s population, she wrote, but in 2010 they accounted for at least 61 percent of all new HIV infections.
Liscinsky noted that the FDA also requires that blood donations be barred from other groups of people, including those who have used intravenous drugs, worked as prostitutes, have hepatitis or traveled to countries with high risks of malaria or mad-cow disease
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/2013...
Doesn't it seem like a better idea to simply TEST all the blood before it goes into use? What is the point of identifying groups which are more at risk? Does it somehow mean that someone NOT from one of those groups will not have any disease, and that their blood may safely join the national supply without being tested?

When people donate blood, they are ASKED if they belong to one of those groups. If that person chooses to LIE, then how helpful was the ban? What methods of enforcement are possible at all?

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Why do they assume all straight people are disease free? Many, of course not most straight (or gay) people, have Hepatitis C.

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Pepper wrote:
There's a reason Queers can't donate blood. Deal with it.
Oh, yes we can. Deal with THAT.

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Pepper wrote:
There's a reason Queers can't donate blood. Deal with it.
Sure, that's why I get a request 4 times a year for my blood. Universal donor, you know.

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Pepper wrote:
That's because you lie like the Queer you are. That's all you Queers do is lie
If you believe that's true, then please explain the usefulness of a ban which relies on self-reporting.

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