Breath test negative, blood test positive, GI doc offers no help.

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Steven

Denver, CO

#1 Feb 5, 2012
Hey everyone,
Basically nearly a year ago my life instantly stopped with severe, debilitating shortness of breath overnight.
12 trips the ER, endless specialists, docs, tests, procedures and day after day of living hell....my dad suggests to me I get checked out for h pylori, despite having an endoscopy that showed a negative result.
I've had two endoscopies this year. They both were negative for h pylori. However, I was on Nexium during both endoscopy's, which I learned will present a false negative.
My symptoms are shortness of breath, stomach pains/aches, back aches, racing heart, heart skips, dizziness/weakness bouts, acid reflux, regurgitation, lung aspiration from stomach acids etc...
The last endoscopy revealed stomach discoloration & gastritis. I had a abdomen xray with contrast this last week that showed everything normal except for some irritation on my duodenum.
The GI doc I'm seeing ordered a breath test per my request....in addition I got my GP to order a blood test.
SO, my breath test came back negative, but the blood test came out positive. My stomach is usually really tight feeling, even when it's not hurting...it's still not completely relaxed, ever. Because of this, I can't ever get a deep breath.
Anyway, the GI doc said breath trumps blood test and therefor concluded I didn't have h pylori. The problem is, his only advice was to wait it out. I've been waiting it out for an entire year!!
I haven't been able to work, drive or live! I've been in total seclusion since this hit me.
Tomorrow the hospital has me scheduled for a tilt test & an espophagal manogram or something like that... which both sound absolutely torturous.
Anyway, what is everyone's take on this? Any feedback, advice, opinions would be greatly appreciated!!
Steven

United States

#2 Feb 6, 2012
:(
Wilfredo Gonzalez

Miami, FL

#3 Feb 13, 2012
Stool antigen test
Also known as the HPSA test, this test provides the most conclusive evidence of the presence of H. pylori bacteria. The stool antigen test checks to see if substances that trigger the immune system to fight an H. pylori infection (H. pylori antigens) are present in your feces (stool).
Stool antigen testing may be done to help support a diagnosis of a current H. pylori infection or to determine whether treatment for an H. pylori infection has been successful. We recommend this test after you have been treated - it produces a very accurate result of your H. pylori status.
If you do test positive try this method with water that can Cure & H. pylori without Antibiotics - How to Cure H. pylori without Antibiotics - Helicobacter pylori, h-pylori
It's Really Quite Simple
H. pylori is an acid-loving bacteria. It thrives on the acid in your stomach. Therefore logic dictates that if you dilute your stomach acid, the bacteria will not be able to survive. I never heard of H pylori before getting it a few years ago soon after eating a piece of Kentucky Fried Chicken in one of their not-the-cleanest-in-the-world establishments. It got progressively worse for 3 weeks until finally I could not stand up.
After being educated by my doctor about what it was, I cured a very bad case in three days simply by drinking water... lots of water. I started by drinking two 12 oz. glasses every hour for three or four hours and then went to one glass every hour for the rest of the day. As the pain subsided I lengthened the time between drinks to two hours, then three, etc. until I reached three times a day.
I am 5'4" and weigh 135 pounds. If your stomach is larger you may need to drink more water. If your stomach is smaller, you may need less. You need as much as it takes to dilute your stomach acid and change the pH in your stomach. I also did not eat any meat or foods that need a lot of acid to digest -- since I obviously did not have enough stomach acid to digest them. I fasted the first day, ate only chicken noodle soup the next day and stuck with alkaline foods for the last day... no acidic foods such as citrus or tomato sauce that would have put the acid back in my stomach.
Of course it goes without saying that you should never drink that much water within an hour of eating. That means you drink the water, wait an hour, eat, wait another hour, and drink more water. Otherwise the water will dilute your stomach acid and you won't have enough acid to digest your food. That can cause a whole other set of problems.
If I had to do it again, I would have put Microhydrin in my water to make it more alkaline. I think the cure would have worked faster. I also would have put some bladderwrack in the water once or twice on the first day to act like a soap. As it was, it took about three days to completely rid myself of the problem. Between Saturday morning, when I saw my doctor who advised a blood test to verify the H pylori, and the following Wednesday, when his nurse called to confirm and tell me I needed three weeks of antibiotics, I was not only completely cured but I had stopped drinking water and been eating anything I wanted for at least 36 hours.
They could not believe it. So I took another blood test on Thursday to confirm and also to educate them on the benefit of logically thinking through a problem -- and proving that drugs are not always the answer.
This article was written in 2002 and I have never had a recurrence of H. pylori.-- Angel (2007)
Please leave positive feedback if any
Mike

Fairfield, CA

#4 Feb 13, 2012
the blood test will always show positive even if you have gotten rid of pylori. If you got negative results in your stool or breath tests then you should be cleaned up. I just took my first blood test and it looks like im going to be positive so its most likely i will start treatment soon.
HANI

Columbus, OH

#5 Jan 9, 2014
Hi i have been treated for h pylori 3 months ago with 14 days of prevpac ...but since then my sypmtoms not getting better ..my stomach is burning 24/7 ...neusiated can eat anything loosing weight like crazy ......i dont knw what to do am taking nexium 40 mg everyday but not doing anything for me ......wha u t guys think am i stil have l that stupid bacteria in my stomach ...any idea or advice for me please .
Tracy

Pitkin, LA

#6 Jan 9, 2014
HANI wrote:
Hi i have been treated for h pylori 3 months ago with 14 days of prevpac ...but since then my sypmtoms not getting better ..my stomach is burning 24/7 ...neusiated can eat anything loosing weight like crazy ......i dont knw what to do am taking nexium 40 mg everyday but not doing anything for me ......wha u t guys think am i stil have l that stupid bacteria in my stomach ...any idea or advice for me please .
I believe this is normal as alot of us on the other forum, "after eradication", have still got problems. I had to stop taking the ppi, I was on prilosec, as it did not help much. I started taking zantac and it seemed to help me more. It is a long healing process for some, as I am still having problems. Read on the after eradication and you will see that some are still suffer after a year or more. Good luck and God bless, Tracy

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