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H.Pylori and Atrial Fibrillation Connection

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Sharon

Pensacola, FL

#1 Apr 6, 2009
I was recently diagnosed (last Friday) with H.Pylori and I believe I have had it for years. In September of 2005 I was diagnosed with Atrial Fibrillation which is a misfiring of the heart.

When I was researching the H.Pylori along with a friend, she sent me an article that some scientists had connected the HP bacteria to afib. Quote from... www.yourmedicaldetective.com "Researchers note that the link between H. Pylori and atrial fibrillation is highly significant." Multimedia General Hospital's Cardiology Department and Arrhythmia Center.

I wondered how many of you who have HP have heart disturbances like afib?

I started on the Mastic Gum today, along with Priobotics and Roobibos Tea. I decided this after reading much material and forums. It was between the Matula Tea and the Mastic Gum and I was more impressed with how many had taken the Mastic Gum with good results. I will be tested again in 30 days after taking the Mastic Gum.

The doctors wanted me on the Triple plan, two antibiotics and Pepto Bismol and I am so allergic to antibiotics I couldn't go that route. After reading so much about the side effects some have experienced I figured I would be worse off if I took the medication, so decided to go the natural route.

Personally I am hoping that if I can kill the H.pylori with this method and keep up a preventative lower dose of the Mastic Gum that I can also overcome the reoccuring afib episodes that happen about every two months. They wear me out and are rather scary. I also use supplements for that so I am on no kind of medication at all. I have no underlying heart condition, my heart just misfires. It is my hope that these scientist are right and afib can be conquered by killing a bacteria. Sharon
Dave

Newark, DE

#2 Nov 5, 2009
Sharon wrote:
I was recently diagnosed (last Friday) with H.Pylori and I believe I have had it for years. In September of 2005 I was diagnosed with Atrial Fibrillation which is a misfiring of the heart.
When I was researching the H.Pylori along with a friend, she sent me an article that some scientists had connected the HP bacteria to afib. Quote from... www.yourmedicaldetective.com "Researchers note that the link between H. Pylori and atrial fibrillation is highly significant." Multimedia General Hospital's Cardiology Department and Arrhythmia Center.
I wondered how many of you who have HP have heart disturbances like afib?
I started on the Mastic Gum today, along with Priobotics and Roobibos Tea. I decided this after reading much material and forums. It was between the Matula Tea and the Mastic Gum and I was more impressed with how many had taken the Mastic Gum with good results. I will be tested again in 30 days after taking the Mastic Gum.
The doctors wanted me on the Triple plan, two antibiotics and Pepto Bismol and I am so allergic to antibiotics I couldn't go that route. After reading so much about the side effects some have experienced I figured I would be worse off if I took the medication, so decided to go the natural route.
Personally I am hoping that if I can kill the H.pylori with this method and keep up a preventative lower dose of the Mastic Gum that I can also overcome the reoccuring afib episodes that happen about every two months. They wear me out and are rather scary. I also use supplements for that so I am on no kind of medication at all. I have no underlying heart condition, my heart just misfires. It is my hope that these scientist are right and afib can be conquered by killing a bacteria. Sharon
My paroxismal AF had been getting worse for 10 years until my doc discovered that I had bad case of H Pylori, and treated it with Prevpac (2 antibiotics and prevacid). My AF has virtually disappeared over the past two years. I suggest you bite the bullet and try the antibiotics.
Sharon

Pensacola, FL

#3 Nov 5, 2009
Dave, the Mastic Gum cured my H.pylori, you can read the whole story here: http://www.afibbers.org/conference/session61....

It is not a matter of "biting the bullet" and doing the antibiotics, it is a matter of getting sicker if I took the antibiotics as my body does not tolerate any medication well.

Sharon
marg

Brooklin, Canada

#4 Jan 14, 2010
Sharon, I am very interested in your afib/h pylori connection, but I can't find your post about it in the link you provide.
Sharon

Pensacola, FL

#5 Jan 14, 2010
marg wrote:
Sharon, I am very interested in your afib/h pylori connection, but I can't find your post about it in the link you provide.
I am sorry, I posted the wrong connection, here it is:
http://www.afibbers.org/conference/session65....
Shawn

Wayland, MA

#6 Jan 20, 2010
Hi Sharon,

I read your success story back in Aug on afibbers.org . I was diagnosed with H.Pylori back in Aug 99. I was also diagnosed with Lone AFIB the same time. Back then whne the found the H.Pylori, they put me on heavy duty antibiotics. To this day, I feel the never got ride of it and I feel it's been causing my AFIB ever since.

I've always thought there was a link and the article in 2005 seemed to address a possible link. But since then, I don't beleive there has much published about the link.

I have since had an ablation (3 weeks ago). Still have some afib bouts but that is normal for 2-3months. I'm on Nexium all the time. I'm going to go the Mastic Gum route you seemed to have success with. I hope it will give me similar results.
Sharon

Pensacola, FL

#7 Jan 20, 2010
Shawn, I believe there is a connection, but I also believe there is a connection between any inflammation and afib. I may have had the H.pylori for years and didn't know it until it had invaded my body and the symptoms were so bad that I knew something was wrong.

I believe that even with an ablation if you don't find the underlying reason for the afib, your heart will remap and you will have afib even after an ablation. You might want to read some on the bb that I am part of www.afibbers.org It is a great site and lots of knowledge abounds about afib on that board.

Good luck with the Mastic Gum, be sure to take a good priobotic with it. You can order the Mastic Gum I used through the afib website too. Sharon
David

Madrid, Spain

#8 May 1, 2010
Hello from Europe!
3 weeks ago I discovered I had Helicobacter after many days with stomach pain.

But really I began 3 months before to suffer occasionally some days an abnormal heart rythm with chest pain. But blood test and electrocardiogram said my heart was perfect.

Now I know Helicobacter was the cause!
Heidi

Oceanside, CA

#9 Aug 19, 2010
I am so grateful to have stumbled upon the article showing a link between A Fib and H Pylori. I've been struggling with AFib for about 3 years. Each year it has gotten more and more frequent. I have also struggled with horrible gastritis, and recently tested positive for H Pylori. I am taking antibiotics and haven't had an AFib for two weeks (they were happening more frequently). Am very encouraged...have tried so many other things that never worked for the Afib. I will find out more about the Mastic Gum too. I have read that H Pylori is difficult to get rid of even by taking two antibiotics together. Has anyone been cured by taking the antiobiotics? It goes without saying that I would be completely overjoyed to have FINALLY found something to heal the AFib, which is a horrible problem to have, especially when it becomes more and more chronic. Heidi
Sharon

Pensacola, FL

#10 Aug 20, 2010
Heidi, you may consider going on the website www.afibbers.org there is a lot of information on the board and you can ask questions. I don't think getting rid of H.pylori rid me of afib, I still have episodes, although they are further apart. My belief is inflammation of any sort is a trigger for afib and H.pylori is a big inflammation equation. The more you can learn about afib, the better you can cope with it. I don't think they have discovered what totally causes it and I think there are many factors that figure into a person having the condition. Here are some afib protocols you might want to read from people who have slowed down or stopped their afib with certain supplements and changing eating. http://www.afibbers.org/conference/session61....

Good Luck!
Ulla

San Diego, CA

#11 Sep 23, 2010
Like Sharon, I cured my very serious AFIB with Mastic Gum, a probiotic, and broccoli on a daily basis ans healthy eating. The effects were noticable within a week, but I stayed on my protocol for months. I can now tolerate carbs, and even coffee. However, I am conscious of not wanting to create a toxic environment for the bacteria again...so I am eating "things" in moderation now. By the way, I had AFIB 4-6 times per week..almoost always at night or after meals.
Sharon

Pensacola, FL

#12 Sep 23, 2010
Ulla wrote:
Like Sharon, I cured my very serious AFIB with Mastic Gum, a probiotic, and broccoli on a daily basis ans healthy eating. The effects were noticable within a week, but I stayed on my protocol for months. I can now tolerate carbs, and even coffee. However, I am conscious of not wanting to create a toxic environment for the bacteria again...so I am eating "things" in moderation now. By the way, I had AFIB 4-6 times per week..almoost always at night or after meals.
Ulla, did your afib go away after the H.pylori was gone? Sharon
Heidi

Oceanside, CA

#13 Sep 23, 2010
Sharon, I just now saw your comments of August 20 in response to my entry, above. Thank you. I too feel AFib has something to do with inflammation. I have seen the a-fibbers.org website, but haven't visited it in awhile. I have tried soooo many supplements (in fact, most of the supplements listed on that website), all to no avail. The only thing that has been a positive change is that my episodes are much shorter (45 mins-1 hour) compared to 6-8 hours due to a homeopathic remedy called digitalis. I still have an episode every 2-3 weeks. Just got retested for H-pylori and this time tested negative, so the antiobiotics worked. Being H-pylori free hasn't gotten rid of the AFib. Will be starting an anti-inflammatory diet recommended by Dr. Hyman -- a reknowed MD and natural medicine doctor who specializes in functional medicine and has helped many people who have chronic diseases through reducing the inflammation in the body. I too feel there are numerous causes and medical science really doesn't know what triggers AFib. Good luck to us all!(And thanks again for your comments). Heidi
Catherine Reeg

United States

#14 Oct 13, 2010
Long story. I have no thyroid, and my doctor lowered my dosage until my blood pressure hit 90/60. She then prescribed once a week dose of Fosamax, and I took a sample on the way home. Two hours later, I called her office to report my heart racing and thumping so bad my body was shaking. The nurse said nothing was wrong, keep taking the Fosamax. Needless to say, I did not. Everytime I went to her office, she or the PA would suggest my thyroid dosage was too high, and I had anxiety. For a full year, during which time, I saw a cardiac specialist, actually a nurse, put a monitor on me for 24 hours. Nothing happened. Then they put me on a one week monitor to trigger every time I had an episode. Nothing showed in the five days I had the monitor on, until I mailed it back after my doctors nurse told me that my heart was perfectly normal. The last two episodes showed SVT, and I finally got to see the Cardiologist. He put me in the Cath Lab, and I had an ablation, actually seven burns, to close off an extra pathway that had opened up in my heart. I've always had an irregular heartbeat, Gone now. But I'm lactose intolerant. I took Vytorin for high cholesterol (156) and ended up in hospital with severe stomach pains, and black tarry stools. Had an upper and lower GI, Colonoscopy and EGD. I was diagnosed with IBS with Gerd. I've been in emergency several times over the past six years with chest pains, numbing in hands and feet, heart attack symptoms, low blood pressure, parathesia of the face, and have been diagnosed with everything from periperal neuropathy to fibromyalgia. I have had several injuries and surgeries. The last illness I was diagnosed with after suffering from chronic diarreah for a year and a half, was h-pylori. It was cleared with Tetracycaline and Flagyl. Then I had more problems, gastroenterologist did a cat scan, colonoscopy and HIDA scan. I had my gall bladder removed as it was not functioning. I am still having tremendous gastritus and pain, and it seems to trigger A-Fib and chest pain. I was reffered to a Cardiologist and am scheduled for a ElectroCardio Gram Stress Test tomorrow. I have another EGD scheduled for the 22nd. My Dad had this same thing, only his doctor put him on what he called lethargy pills for his heart, and never did treat his stomach ulcers. From age 62, which I am now, till he died of a massive cerebral hemmorage at age 69, he claimed the gas triggered the heart episodes. When they did an EGD on him, his heart went nuts and they had to knock him out and pack him in ice to get his heart back in rythym. I am very concerned at this point, but feel the doctors are in charge of the testing and diagnosing. I did a little research and came up with Roemheld Syndrome, Wipeketa. It explains all the symptoms I have been plagued by for years. There has been no research in the states for years, and the last research done in Germany, where this was first detected in 1937, has not been translated into English. I am giving a copy of the research on Roemheld Syndrome to my Cardiologist tomorrow, and my Gastroenterologist on the 22nd.
Pjr

Rocklin, CA

#15 Dec 28, 2010
I was diagnosed with HP two years ago, took Prev Pac. This is so harsh and caused serious stomach acid reflux problems, then tried meds but they caused bladder infection symptoms. Stopped them and about 7 months ago developed Afib (bad). Was put on Multac and after many tests, heart is okay, just Afib. Changed diet, watch acids and take pro biotic and Afib is almost gone. Am scheduled for a EP study, but am going to cancel. Dr's so far, won't agree that there is any link to HP but I think it was the harsh treatment that caused stomach reflux problems that ended up developing Afib. Would love to hear more stories related.
Lisa Australia

Oakden, Australia

#16 Jan 14, 2011
Catherine Reeg wrote:
Long story. I have no thyroid, and my doctor lowered my dosage until my blood pressure hit 90/60. She then prescribed once a week dose of Fosamax, and I took a sample on the way home. Two hours later, I called her office to report my heart racing and thumping so bad my body was shaking. The nurse said nothing was wrong, keep taking the Fosamax. Needless to say, I did not. Everytime I went to her office, she or the PA would suggest my thyroid dosage was too high, and I had anxiety. For a full year, during which time, I saw a cardiac specialist, actually a nurse, put a monitor on me for 24 hours. Nothing happened. Then they put me on a one week monitor to trigger every time I had an episode. Nothing showed in the five days I had the monitor on, until I mailed it back after my doctors nurse told me that my heart was perfectly normal. The last two episodes showed SVT, and I finally got to see the Cardiologist. He put me in the Cath Lab, and I had an ablation, actually seven burns, to close off an extra pathway that had opened up in my heart. I've always had an irregular heartbeat, Gone now. But I'm lactose intolerant. I took Vytorin for high cholesterol (156) and ended up in hospital with severe stomach pains, and black tarry stools. Had an upper and lower GI, Colonoscopy and EGD. I was diagnosed with IBS with Gerd. I've been in emergency several times over the past six years with chest pains, numbing in hands and feet, heart attack symptoms, low blood pressure, parathesia of the face, and have been diagnosed with everything from periperal neuropathy to fibromyalgia. I have had several injuries and surgeries. The last illness I was diagnosed with after suffering from chronic diarreah for a year and a half, was h-pylori. It was cleared with Tetracycaline and Flagyl. Then I had more problems, gastroenterologist did a cat scan, colonoscopy and HIDA scan. I had my gall bladder removed as it was not functioning. I am still having tremendous gastritus and pain, and it seems to trigger A-Fib and chest pain. I was reffered to a Cardiologist and am scheduled for a ElectroCardio Gram Stress Test tomorrow. I have another EGD scheduled for the 22nd. My Dad had this same thing, only his doctor put him on what he called lethargy pills for his heart, and never did treat his stomach ulcers. From age 62, which I am now, till he died of a massive cerebral hemmorage at age 69, he claimed the gas triggered the heart episodes. When they did an EGD on him, his heart went nuts and they had to knock him out and pack him in ice to get his heart back in rythym. I am very concerned at this point, but feel the doctors are in charge of the testing and diagnosing. I did a little research and came up with Roemheld Syndrome, Wipeketa. It explains all the symptoms I have been plagued by for years. There has been no research in the states for years, and the last research done in Germany, where this was first detected in 1937, has not been translated into English. I am giving a copy of the research on Roemheld Syndrome to my Cardiologist tomorrow, and my Gastroenterologist on the 22nd.
Hi there,
I have been having atrial fib. for 5yrs. and have now had 2 ablations done one in Jan 2010 and the other Nov. 2010.
I feel Im not out of the woods yet...in my case there is a definet link between the STOMACH AND HEART....when my stomach plays up...(bloating, wind, inflamation, and heat) you can bet is sets off my AF....I become very careful of what I eat and how much..>(small meals are better too...
Check out the interview with Dr. Smith...you will find it at the bottom of wikipeadea page on ROEMHELDS SYNDROME its on a RADIO SHOW....
Im going to try the products and see if they improve my stomach....
especially the digestive enzymes
ALL THE BEST LISA...
Lisa Australia

Oakden, Australia

#17 Jan 15, 2011
Was diagnosed with AF 5 yrs ago....Ive had 2 ablations Jan 2010 and Nov 2010...
In my situation there is a direct link with the stomach and heart (Roemhelds syndrome) and have been telling my Cardioligist for ages....
Recently heard a interview with Dr. Smith on a radio show. Type Roemhelds syndrome...go to the wikipedia site...scrol down to the bottom of the page where the references are and log into the bottom one....Dr. Smith makes sence...for me anyway..Im going to try his supplements and see if my stomach improves (symptoms..bloating,wind,imfla mation , loss of appetite. etc)
Hope this has help someone.
Cheers,
Lisa
Cici

Larose, LA

#18 Nov 30, 2011
H.pylori can go dormant, but it does not go away. It can reoccur at any time.
james

Philadelphia, PA

#19 Dec 1, 2011
Lisa Australia wrote:
Was diagnosed with AF 5 yrs ago....Ive had 2 ablations Jan 2010 and Nov 2010...
In my situation there is a direct link with the stomach and heart (Roemhelds syndrome) and have been telling my Cardioligist for ages....
Recently heard a interview with Dr. Smith on a radio show. Type Roemhelds syndrome...go to the wikipedia site...scrol down to the bottom of the page where the references are and log into the bottom one....Dr. Smith makes sence...for me anyway..Im going to try his supplements and see if my stomach improves (symptoms..bloating,wind,imfla mation , loss of appetite. etc)
Hope this has help someone.
Cheers,
Lisa
Any updates Lisa?
David

Clarks Summit, PA

#20 Feb 22, 2012
For this, I think more studies should be done in order to explore more about this connection so that proper instructions can then happen among people that can be affected. http://www.fosamaxfemurfracturelawsuit.com/fo...

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