lee uk26

Belfast, UK

#83 Dec 3, 2007
hey lance elaine and everyone one else on here.well i finished the triple therapy over the weekend;-)the side effects i mentioned in an earlier post lasted about 3-4 days.after that i felt very well.i supplemented the therapy with pro-biotics(yakult) and think this definately eased the effects.i've had no heartburn or acid since finishing the treatment and do feel pretty energized.i was back to work today(postman) and did my round with no problems.i think i have to wait a few months before i can be tested for hp to see if treatment was successful but as of now i have no symptoms.i will keep ya'll updated;-).leex

Since: Apr 07

Barnstaple, UK

#84 Dec 3, 2007
HI Lee
glad the triple therapy seems to have worked for you . Has your bloating gone too?
lee uk26

Belfast, UK

#85 Dec 4, 2007
hey lance,
my stomach is slighly bloated but nowhere near as bad as it was.i think its just a bit of a beer belly from too much cider.lol.gud luck on getting rid of hp for gud.i'll let ya know bout the test results in a month or so;-)lee
Geraldine

UK

#86 Dec 5, 2007
Hi Lance and Elaine
It's been awhile since I wrote, my symptoms have progressively got worse and I have decided I have to try the quadruple treatment. My doctor gave me the prescription a few weeks ago but i havent found the right time to start it. When I was on the triple therapy I didnt feel good - this time it is 4 types of antibiotics and for 2 weeks not 1, so i am very apprehensive. My doctor said that this should cure it, that remains to be seen. But I have to give it a go, i cannot carry on the way I am. I wake up every morning full of reflux, most days I cant even face a cup of tea. My backache has returned on and off, and i belch constantly. Of course my biggest worry is the possible link to Cancer, otherwise i would just live with it. Avoiding certain foods helps sometimes but that's difficult. So I will have to take the plunge starting this weekend and try the quadruple treatment. I hope I can keep it up for 2 weeks - if this doesnt work then nothing will.
I havent tried the gum or the tea, I don't believe these will work. Let me know how you got on with the treatment, wait at least 6 weeks to be tested again. I had the stool test, apparently the most accurate.
Geraldine
Elaine

UK

#87 Dec 5, 2007
Hi

LEE
Sounds like good news, my gp also told me to take an pro-biotics everyday, to help with the side effects of the antibiotics.

LANCE
I know how you feel about gp's being unsympathetic. Mine was exactly the same, but to be honest ive seen 2 different GP's at my practice and i dont think they had much experience in dealing with HP. I got the impression i knew more than them.

GERALDINE
Good Luck with starting the treatment. Im convinced i still have hp after 2 lots of triple therapies. Im also waiting for the "right" time to go back and see the Doctor, im assuming i'll have more antibiotics again, but the last 2 times i was ill with them and had to have time off work and my sickness record isnt the best because of the HP.
..........
Im also curious, did you all have the triple therapy for 1 week or 2?

Elaine

Since: Apr 07

Abingdon, UK

#88 Dec 6, 2007
HI Elaine, Lee and geraldine and everyone else.
Elaine, i had the triple therapy for one week. I recently had a Urea breath test which im told came back negative, to be honest im not even sure if i believe my doctor when she told me this. I am going to send away to a screening company in oxford for a private stool antigen test. My symptoms at moment are worse than they have ever been, unfortunately i have two rectum obsessed doctors who insist i have IBS regardless of symptoms, or the fact that IBS treatments have no effect on me.
Geraldine , can i ask what the four antibiotics are that you take in quadruple therapy?
Geraldine

UK

#89 Dec 6, 2007
Hi Elaine
I had the triple therapy for 1 week, thank goodness as I didnt feel well at all while on it. I have the same problem as finding the right time to take the medication as I also work and cant afford more time off. I have read that if the triple therapy fails then you should not repeat the same antibiotics, but my gp gave me 3 treatments over a period of a couple of years. I agree that the gp's dont know much about hp, last time i went she had the medical book out trying to work out what to give me. I am not convinced that the quadruple treatment will work but have no option. I am really nervous about it, i am sure it will make me ill again but if it works it will be worth it
Lance - I am not sure what the 4 antiobiotics are, I still have the script in my bag at home. One of the drugs is definitely Bismuth. I also suffer from IBS and stomach problems in general so i think it can all be related. I had planned to start the treatment tomorrow so that I could see how I feel over the weekend, but still not even picked up the medication.
I will keep you all posted, I definitely have to give the new antiobiotics a go, it's just finding the right time to do it!
Victor

Edison, NJ

#90 Dec 9, 2007
Did anyone tried extra virgin Siberian pine nut oil?
It is offered on: http://www.siberiantigernaturals.com/pepticul...
Also, can someone comment on the facts they list on their webpage?
I was diagnosed with H. pylori and ulcer. After on treatment, I continued to feel bad (actually worst then before). I developed stomach spasms. So I went to another dr. He did spectroscopy, said it looks good. After 2 weeks he calls me and tells me that H. pylori is back and I have to undergo another treatment.
I am looking for alternatives..
Please, anyone..Thanks

Since: Nov 07

Central District, Hong Kong

#91 Dec 9, 2007
Hi everyone

before take antibiotics for treating hellicobacter pylori think very well. I took the quad therapie only for 9 days but I became worst than before. I suspect that might cause me intestine candida. So after a lot of searching in the internet I followed my own treatment which is a compination of many natural things. I take tree times a day, aloe vera juice, mastic gum, greek organic oregano, a lot of probiotics, desestive natural enjymes, and also i change my diet. I stoped coffe and alcohol, was very easy, and I eat only few fruits, vegetables, some meat, fish. All must be organic and good quality. First of all I lost kilos I was over weight, I feel empty, lighter, and believe me I feel great. My stomach is better. So try to change your all habits and give an oportunity to your body to get rid of the toxins. I really feel great.

stylla

Since: Nov 07

Central District, Hong Kong

#92 Dec 9, 2007
Dear Geraldine

Dont get the antibiotics. They will make you worst. read my post. Try to find a natural way. The quad therapie which I did and I regret has too many side effects. You will destroy all your flora.

think well

stylla
Geraldine wrote:
Hi Elaine
I had the triple therapy for 1 week, thank goodness as I didnt feel well at all while on it. I have the same problem as finding the right time to take the medication as I also work and cant afford more time off. I have read that if the triple therapy fails then you should not repeat the same antibiotics, but my gp gave me 3 treatments over a period of a couple of years. I agree that the gp's dont know much about hp, last time i went she had the medical book out trying to work out what to give me. I am not convinced that the quadruple treatment will work but have no option. I am really nervous about it, i am sure it will make me ill again but if it works it will be worth it
Lance - I am not sure what the 4 antiobiotics are, I still have the script in my bag at home. One of the drugs is definitely Bismuth. I also suffer from IBS and stomach problems in general so i think it can all be related. I had planned to start the treatment tomorrow so that I could see how I feel over the weekend, but still not even picked up the medication.
I will keep you all posted, I definitely have to give the new antiobiotics a go, it's just finding the right time to do it!

Since: Nov 07

Central District, Hong Kong

#93 Dec 9, 2007
Dear friend

read my post. There is an natural healty and life changes way to make your stomach feel better.



stylla
Lance in north east Uk wrote:
HI Elaine, Lee and geraldine and everyone else.
Elaine, i had the triple therapy for one week. I recently had a Urea breath test which im told came back negative, to be honest im not even sure if i believe my doctor when she told me this. I am going to send away to a screening company in oxford for a private stool antigen test. My symptoms at moment are worse than they have ever been, unfortunately i have two rectum obsessed doctors who insist i have IBS regardless of symptoms, or the fact that IBS treatments have no effect on me.
Geraldine , can i ask what the four antibiotics are that you take in quadruple therapy?
Geraldine

UK

#94 Dec 12, 2007
Hi Stylla
Thanks for your comments, I think you are right I will try the alternative therapy, sounds like the antiobiotics cause too many side effects and actually make things worse.
I will try and be stricter with my diet, coffee is a problem but I hardly touch alcohol, also I there are certain foods I have to avoid.

Since: Apr 07

Abingdon, UK

#95 Dec 12, 2007
People who peddle the alternate remedies tend to promote the idea that the antibiotic treatments are harmful. Alternative therapies are good, only if they work. Every alternative therapy i have tried to remedy my gastric problems have been a total waste of money, one remedy in particular was a scandalous rip off. If anyone has found natural remedies that have CURED their problems, as opposed to just providing temporary relief id be very interested to know.
Renee

Greensburg, PA

#96 Dec 13, 2007
Hi,
I have had stomach issues for years but in 2003 after I had a C/Section for my twins I ended up in emergency surgery for perforated ulcers (many of them). I tested negative for H Pylori antibodies in my blood and negative for 2 endoscopy biopsies as well. I did the quad therapy etc anyway as my Doctor didn't know how else to go about treating me. So I decided last month to try Matula tea even though I didn't test positive for H Pylori I thought maybe my issue was Candida overgrowth. Within the first week of drinking the tea I had no more acid reflux, stomach pains, diarrhea etc. I actually went off my Protonix and Axid and feel fine! I am an RN and was VERY sceptical about this tea from S Africa but it is working! It tastes/smells like stinky feet but who cares. Any questions email me at [email protected] Renee
Adil

Bronx, NY

#97 Dec 14, 2007
I have been having reflux, stomach burning, etc. for a year. I was suspecting Candida and did a diet for that. Also tried some things like DGL, Siberian Pine Nut Oil, Aloe Vera, etc. but nothing cured except I felt 80% cured while on Baking Soda and Apple Cider Vinegar for several months. Then it stopped working.

Then recently I had bleeding in my stomach that I could see in my saliva and stools (as dark patches). So I got tested and was positive for H.Pylori. I just completed PrevPac (2 weeks) and felt a bit better but now my stomach is burning a bit again, so either I'm not cured or I have other problems. I will get a Stool test in 2 weeks.

I think the root of the problem is overuse of antibiotics when I was growing up.

Probiotics seems to be the only thing that helps me. I eat Yogurt with live cultures and use this drink called Green Vibrance. I can't complain too much, but this thing causes cancer eventually, so I have to get rid of it. I don't know what to do. I think I will try some of the new things I read here now (Mastic gum, oregano oil, etc.).

Best of luck to everyone.
lee

Belfast, UK

#98 Jan 22, 2008
hey everyone,
just an update on my posts from early december when i took the triple therapy for h plyori.well got the breath test results back today and they are normal;-0;-),so it seems for me at least the a'biotic treatment has been successful.at the end of the day this bug can cause cancer and the only evidence we have is that conventional medicine is the only proven cure so do not be put off by the side effects of the triple therapy.they are not that severe!during and following the treatment i took plenty of pro-biotics.i think this is very important to restore the natural balance in your gut.depending on which foods i eat i still get sum heartburn and acid but it's tolerable and quite natural.good luck to all who are still suffering;-)
take care.leex
Elaine

UK

#99 Jan 22, 2008
Hi Lee, thanks for the update, thats great news!!
Its good to hear the antibiotics can be successfull.

Im still to go back to the docs as im sure i still have it after 2 lots of them. My 13 year old had the triple therapy and still has all the symptoms, he now has to have a stool test and if it comes back positive he will be referred to a specialist in another Hospital as i think the Specialist he is seeing at the moment is not experienced in HP and also its not as common in children.

I found this an interesting read on an HP sufferer. In which proves that triple therapy is a must.

http://www.pdsa.org/itp-stories/helicobacter-...

Take care

Since: Apr 07

Swanscombe, UK

#100 Jan 24, 2008
Hi Lee , thanks for the update, and glad you are now free of this awful problem. I didnt take probiotics during triple therapy i think that was my downfall lol
Elaine, have you been tested to see if H PYlori is cleared or not? can I ask what kind of symptoms you are having? I am now definitely H PYlori clear but am still having trouble, though the symtpoms have a different slant. MIght be interesting to compare notes.
Lance
Elaine

UK

#101 Jan 25, 2008
Lance,
I have yet to go back to my gp to be tested again. Im going to wait as my local hospital are introducing the stool test in 2 months time, thats when my son will have the test.
My symptoms are abdominal pain, heartburn, stomach gurgling, nausea, bloating and dizziness, most days. Sometimes when i have it bad, if i prod the upper part of my stomach it feels as if it is bruised.

Since: Apr 07

Coventry, UK

#102 Jan 25, 2008
GOod luck with the stool test elaine for you and your son. I have had the test and am deifnitely H PYlori clear though still having trouble. Ive been looking into SIBO- small intestinal bacterial overghrowth- apparently it underlies the majority of cases of Irritable bowel syndrome and can cause liver trouble also. I had a hospital referral recently and i am being given an ultrasound

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