Brazilian women rebel against cesarean births

Aug 11, 2012 Full story: The State 23

From the day Mariana Migon discovered she was pregnant, she knew she wanted a natural birth.

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Dave

Winnipeg, Canada

#1 Aug 13, 2012
It is a medical intervention and should be seen as that. Most circumstances of natural childbirth do not require such invasive means.Bringing them into the picture is senseless.

“laugh until your belly hurts”

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#4 Aug 15, 2012
Dave wrote:
It is a medical intervention and should be seen as that. Most circumstances of natural childbirth do not require such invasive means.Bringing them into the picture is senseless.
there is very little as invasive as natural child birth. a c-section delivery is much safer for both the baby and the mother as there is much less chance of complications, and healing time is much faster. normally the mother is up and about, walking normally on the very next morning.
Dave

Winnipeg, Canada

#5 Aug 16, 2012
dances with weebles wrote:
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there is very little as invasive as natural child birth. a c-section delivery is much safer for both the baby and the mother as there is much less chance of complications, and healing time is much faster. normally the mother is up and about, walking normally on the very next morning.
Let us start by pointing out that invasive means something invades something else. In a vaginal birth a baby is not being pushed into a woman's body it is being released.I suppose if you want to nit pick you could say it invades the birth canal, however, that is the biological function of that part of the female anatomy.

Both types of delivery have their own unique problems.

A delivery should be safe for both mother and child - not necessarily painless, safe is the key word. If babies were born with teeth they would not have to go through the painful teething process. Pain is something we get when the body is telling us that something is happening in/to us. It is part of being real as opposed to something one might see in Star Wars.
Do your research a C section is not 'safer' than a vaginal birth. It is ONLY safer when there are problems that would result in a crisis for the mom, baby or both.The vast majority of women are up and walking after a vaginal birth as soon as the danger of bleeding is over. In fact it is part of the routine so that they don't have strokes.
Women who have babies vaginally may have some problems ie an episiotomy that becomes infected - guess what C-Section openings are subject to that too.
There are issues with anesthetics and even some pain killers but a woman can opt for a drug free vaginal delivery if she chooses. Perhaps that is her first gift to her baby.
A woman who cannot give birth without these things has not failed her child in anyway. It just became necessary in some cases but women who don't believe that they can manage some pain in their life are selling themselves short.
Childbirth can be very painful but people in general have to experience pain that they never anticipated in their lives. You may not be able to avoid an amputation if you develop gangrene in a leg.
UruEuWauWau

Salvador, Brazil

#6 Sep 3, 2012
Ssaew! ;-) Smart my BRA sisses, as always. Valeu garotia brasa. ;-D

“laugh until your belly hurts”

Since: Dec 06

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#7 Sep 3, 2012
Dave wrote:
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Let us start by pointing out that invasive means something invades something else. In a vaginal birth a baby is not being pushed into a woman's body it is being released.I suppose if you want to nit pick you could say it invades the birth canal, however, that is the biological function of that part of the female anatomy.
Both types of delivery have their own unique problems.
A delivery should be safe for both mother and child - not necessarily painless, safe is the key word. If babies were born with teeth they would not have to go through the painful teething process. Pain is something we get when the body is telling us that something is happening in/to us. It is part of being real as opposed to something one might see in Star Wars.
Do your research a C section is not 'safer' than a vaginal birth. It is ONLY safer when there are problems that would result in a crisis for the mom, baby or both.The vast majority of women are up and walking after a vaginal birth as soon as the danger of bleeding is over. In fact it is part of the routine so that they don't have strokes.
Women who have babies vaginally may have some problems ie an episiotomy that becomes infected - guess what C-Section openings are subject to that too.
There are issues with anesthetics and even some pain killers but a woman can opt for a drug free vaginal delivery if she chooses. Perhaps that is her first gift to her baby.
A woman who cannot give birth without these things has not failed her child in anyway. It just became necessary in some cases but women who don't believe that they can manage some pain in their life are selling themselves short.
Childbirth can be very painful but people in general have to experience pain that they never anticipated in their lives. You may not be able to avoid an amputation if you develop gangrene in a leg.
it sounds to me as though you are one of those who bought into the catholic dictum that says that the pain of childbirth is all women's way of paying for the original sin and the fall of adam.

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Since: Dec 06

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#8 Sep 3, 2012
UruEuWauWau wrote:
Ssaew! ;-) Smart my BRA sisses, as always. Valeu garotia brasa. ;-D
Isso não é inteligente. na verdade, eles só estão a ser vítimas dos ensinamentos da igreja católica, mais uma vez. cesariana é muito mais seguro do que o parto vaginal e há muito menos doloroso e quase não há tempo reccovery. um dia, no máximo.

“laugh until your belly hurts”

Since: Dec 06

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#9 Sep 3, 2012
Dave wrote:
<quoted text>
Let us start by pointing out that invasive means something invades something else. In a vaginal birth a baby is not being pushed into a woman's body it is being released.I suppose if you want to nit pick you could say it invades the birth canal, however, that is the biological function of that part of the female anatomy.
Both types of delivery have their own unique problems.
A delivery should be safe for both mother and child - not necessarily painless, safe is the key word. If babies were born with teeth they would not have to go through the painful teething process. Pain is something we get when the body is telling us that something is happening in/to us. It is part of being real as opposed to something one might see in Star Wars.
Do your research a C section is not 'safer' than a vaginal birth. It is ONLY safer when there are problems that would result in a crisis for the mom, baby or both.The vast majority of women are up and walking after a vaginal birth as soon as the danger of bleeding is over. In fact it is part of the routine so that they don't have strokes.
Women who have babies vaginally may have some problems ie an episiotomy that becomes infected - guess what C-Section openings are subject to that too.
There are issues with anesthetics and even some pain killers but a woman can opt for a drug free vaginal delivery if she chooses. Perhaps that is her first gift to her baby.
A woman who cannot give birth without these things has not failed her child in anyway. It just became necessary in some cases but women who don't believe that they can manage some pain in their life are selling themselves short.
Childbirth can be very painful but people in general have to experience pain that they never anticipated in their lives. You may not be able to avoid an amputation if you develop gangrene in a leg.
and by the way... suffering through torturous pain is NOT a gift. there's no reason that a mother has to martyr herself to bring a child into the world.
UruEuWauWau

Salvador, Brazil

#10 Sep 4, 2012
dances with weebles wrote:
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Isso não é inteligente. na verdade, eles só estão a ser vítimas dos ensinamentos da igreja católica, mais uma vez. cesariana é muito mais seguro do que o parto vaginal e há muito menos doloroso e quase não há tempo reccovery. um dia, no máximo.
Ox! I see ya use some translation tool. Ntaun vamu lah. ;-) Oia soh, cara, anti d fala sobri u asuntu i as religioi nu Pais colocannu bobagi, tu ten q aprende mu+ du q aprendess jah, cert. Viss?! ;-) Viro noju sempri bate na IC. Tendess?! ;-P A verdadi nua i crua eh q a maioria dus problema nu Pais comesso soh c/a chegada dus protestanti comu pentecoxtai. Aliai seh pobri nu BRA ja+ prestava, disixperu du povaun eh inda grandi, iaew u Protextantismu aproveito i gaio. Like I said, my BRA sisses are smart. Soh falta miora us servissu publicu i d saudi, tah fet. Nfin ;-)

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#11 Sep 4, 2012
UruEuWauWau wrote:
<quoted text>
Ox! I see ya use some translation tool. Ntaun vamu lah. ;-) Oia soh, cara, anti d fala sobri u asuntu i as religioi nu Pais colocannu bobagi, tu ten q aprende mu+ du q aprendess jah, cert. Viss?! ;-) Viro noju sempri bate na IC. Tendess?! ;-P A verdadi nua i crua eh q a maioria dus problema nu Pais comesso soh c/a chegada dus protestanti comu pentecoxtai. Aliai seh pobri nu BRA ja+ prestava, disixperu du povaun eh inda grandi, iaew u Protextantismu aproveito i gaio. Like I said, my BRA sisses are smart. Soh falta miora us servissu publicu i d saudi, tah fet. Nfin ;-)
i see that you should, cu. maybe then whatever you think that you're saying would make sense. screw you and maria aparecida
Dave

Winnipeg, Canada

#12 Sep 5, 2012
dances with weebles wrote:
<quoted text>
it sounds to me as though you are one of those who bought into the catholic dictum that says that the pain of childbirth is all women's way of paying for the original sin and the fall of adam.
I am agnostic and have no church.I did not even attend a church as a child except a couple of times when a relative took me as my father was an atheist.I would consider it a joke to believe that pain associated with a major event in a females body was due to any kind of payback if there was, or is, an all loving deity.
Dave

Winnipeg, Canada

#13 Sep 5, 2012
dances with weebles wrote:
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and by the way... suffering through torturous pain is NOT a gift. there's no reason that a mother has to martyr herself to bring a child into the world.
Being able to bear pain for the sake of one's child was referred to as the gift. Not that it ( pain ) was a gift for the mother. Going out to work everyday, sometimes at things we don't like, is a gift for our children.There are many labors of love involved in having children. I am also not convinced that most women who have vaginal deliveries are "feeling " like martyrs. I think you are putting that label on them though.
Dave

Winnipeg, Canada

#14 Sep 5, 2012
dances with weebles wrote:
<quoted text>
and by the way... suffering through torturous pain is NOT a gift. there's no reason that a mother has to martyr herself to bring a child into the world.
Oh, and by the way, don't worry webbles do wobble but they don't fall down.
UruEuWauWau

Salvador, Brazil

#15 Sep 5, 2012
dances with weebles wrote:
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i see that you should, cu. maybe then whatever you think that you're saying would make sense. screw you and maria aparecida
Ya see a shyat in the dark, ya know. ;-) Next time try to reach me, a real BRA dude I am, in English (yo' native tongue). ;-P Unless ya wanna me to tell ya in my native BRA Portuguese dialect sump'n like, mio deixa d tant bexter, nxerga u propiu habu i soh dpoi vai t laska teu capaun ianki assaw da keng safad sen crew. Viss?! Ntaun pega levi i sai d meiu saitaizin. ;-) Like I said my BRA sisses are smart, sexy, feminine & still real true women followin' mother nature & her laws. Therefore, mind yo' bizz & make sure made in USA almost nonXistin' healthcare doesn't go bonkers even further down the drain, very soon. ;-D
krishvandam

Bhopal, India

#16 Sep 5, 2012
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“laugh until your belly hurts”

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#17 Sep 5, 2012
UruEuWauWau wrote:
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Ya see a shyat in the dark, ya know. ;-) Next time try to reach me, a real BRA dude I am, in English (yo' native tongue). ;-P Unless ya wanna me to tell ya in my native BRA Portuguese dialect sump'n like, mio deixa d tant bexter, nxerga u propiu habu i soh dpoi vai t laska teu capaun ianki assaw da keng safad sen crew. Viss?! Ntaun pega levi i sai d meiu saitaizin. ;-) Like I said my BRA sisses are smart, sexy, feminine & still real true women followin' mother nature & her laws. Therefore, mind yo' bizz & make sure made in USA almost nonXistin' healthcare doesn't go bonkers even further down the drain, very soon. ;-D
sorry, favela speak isn't true brasilian português. maybe you should actually get some education from somewhere other than the streets.

not only that, but if you wish to speak to me in english, then do so in proper english learned in a school. not ghetto-ese. dump the rapper shit.

“laugh until your belly hurts”

Since: Dec 06

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#18 Sep 5, 2012
Dave wrote:
<quoted text>
Being able to bear pain for the sake of one's child was referred to as the gift. Not that it ( pain ) was a gift for the mother. Going out to work everyday, sometimes at things we don't like, is a gift for our children.There are many labors of love involved in having children. I am also not convinced that most women who have vaginal deliveries are "feeling " like martyrs. I think you are putting that label on them though.
there's no practical reason for women to suffer through child birth and it can hardly be considered the same as going to work to support the family. many women, and babies die during natural childbirth and from its complications.
Dave

Winnipeg, Canada

#19 Sep 5, 2012
You seem to be stuck on a false belief that it is not as dangerous for women to give birth by Caesarian as it is naturally.

UruEuWauWau

Belém, Brazil

#20 Sep 6, 2012
dances with weebles wrote:
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sorry, favela speak isn't true brasilian português. maybe you should actually get some education from somewhere other than the streets.
not only that, but if you wish to speak to me in english, then do so in proper english learned in a school. not ghetto-ese. dump the rapper shit.
Now this is strange Yank bizz, again. ;-) Last time I checked we BRA peeps speak more diff. dialects than there are diff. accents heard across the ole Yankland. ;-D & of course, diff. BRA urban accents & slangs across BRA, includin' the ones spoken in favelas, dun even count to this number. & all this summed up makes BRA Portuguese. ;-) So ya fail even when it comes to BRA culture, as Xpected. ;-D Leave BRA women & their bizz alone. My BRA God fearin' lovely sisses are the ultim8 owners of their bodies. ;-) If y'all Yanks wanna have yo' puzzes & azzes tight even after givin birth, it's yo' bizz, stop medelin' in foreign cultures y'all know little to nuttin' about. ;-)
ikyb

Milltown, NJ

#21 Sep 27, 2012
They love to have multiple babies with a lot of men.
UruEuWauWau

Belém, Brazil

#22 Sep 28, 2012
ikyb wrote:
They love to have multiple babies with a lot of men.
Nah, nah, ya got it all wrong, kiddo. ;-) Ya mixed yo' Yankland w/ BRA, & yo' typical average Yank & Anglo/UK females in heat for BRA women. Big mistake, pay attention next time, ya typical Yank dummy. ;-D

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