Some Immigrants Excluded From Health Care Overhaul

Jun 21, 2013 Full story: CBS Local 49

President Barack Obama has championed two sweeping policy changes that could transform how people live in the United States: affordable health care for all and a path to citizenship for the 11 million immigrants illegally in the country.

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Dane Thorsen

AOL

#1 Jun 21, 2013
Immigrants aren't excluded from the ACA.
Illegal Aliens are excluded because American tax payers shouldn't be forced to reward foreigners for ignoring our Nation's Immigration Laws. Forcing American citizens to pay to reward illegals for breaking the Law is only acceptable to Morons and Californians.
El Cid

Austin, TX

#2 Jun 21, 2013
Illegal aliens will still go to the ER like they do already and they will get medical care and the taxpayers wills till pay for it. Hospital staff should be required to report illegal aiens so the police can be at the hospital and force themto pay their bill or arrest them for theft of services.
Dane Thorsen

AOL

#3 Jun 21, 2013
El Cid wrote:
Illegal aliens will still go to the ER like they do already and they will get medical care and the taxpayers wills till pay for it. Hospital staff should be required to report illegal aiens so the police can be at the hospital and force themto pay their bill or arrest them for theft of services.
You are too rational and use too much commons sense to understand the epedimic of cowardice that forces citizens to coddle illegals in obama nation.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#5 Jun 21, 2013
The National Charter of 1962 stipulated that "the right of health welfare is foremost among the rights of every citizen."

The Ministry of Health provided free, basic health care at hundreds of public medical facilities. General health centers offered routine medical care, maternal and child care, family planning services, and screening for hospital admittance. These clinics were usually associated with the 1,300 social service units or the 5,000 social care cooperatives that served both urban and rural areas. In addition, in 1990 the Ministry of Health maintained 344 general hospitals, 280 specialized health care units for the treatment of endemic diseases, respiratory ailments, cancer and other diseases, and dental centers. There were about 45,000 beds in all government hospitals, plus an additional 40,000 beds available in private health institutes. The number of trained medical personnel was high relative to most middle-income countries. In 1990 there were more than 73,300 doctors in the country, approximately 1 physician per 715 inhabitants. There were also about 70,000 certified nurses. Medical personnel tended to be concentrated in the cities, and most preferred private practice to employment in public facilities. Fewer than 30 percent of all doctors and scarcely 10 percent of nurses served in villages.

Poor teabagger.
Austinite

Austin, TX

#7 Jun 21, 2013
Eighthman wrote:
Do they have free health care in Benghazi?
Under Gadaffi there was universal health care for all Libyans and legal residents, I do not now about now.
There was also free electricity, running water, education for men and women all the way through university, a monthly oil revenue stipend, free to cheap housing for all, and a food allotment for the poor as well. All thsi was provided to the people by the governemnt by using the vast oil revenues.
Again, I do not know if the Libyan people get any of these things anymore since Al Qaida and Muslim Brotherhood are in charge now. I do know those people have set themselves up in mansions with electricity, water, fine food, and their private militias protecting them since the coup.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#9 Jun 21, 2013
Life As We Know It wrote:
<quoted text>Ok I stopped at the first 2 lines. These are not legal citizens si there for they do not qualify. We have citizen starving in this country with no homes and yet you will defend with your life against criminals.
That's why you got it wrong.

Those are "legal" citizen's.

Of EGYPT.

The healthcare law of Egypt and some history behind it.

That was wrong because the person was asking about Benghazi which is in Libya .

Health care is provided to all citizens. Health, training, rehabilitation, education, housing, family issues, and disability and old-age benefits are all regulated by “Decision No. 111”(dated December 9, 1999) of the General People’s Committee on the Promulgation of the By-Law Enforcement Law No. 20 of 1998 on the Social Care Fund. The health care system is not purely state-run, having very small private hospitals in some areas. In comparison to other states in the Middle East, the health status of the population is above average. Childhood immunization is almost universal. The clean water supply has increased, and sanitation has been improved. The country’s major hospitals are in Tripoli and Benghazi.
Dane Thorsen

AOL

#10 Jun 21, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
The National Charter of 1962 stipulated that "the right of health welfare is foremost among the rights of every citizen."
The Ministry of Health provided free, basic health care at hundreds of public medical facilities. General health centers offered routine medical care, maternal and child care, family planning services, and screening for hospital admittance. These clinics were usually associated with the 1,300 social service units or the 5,000 social care cooperatives that served both urban and rural areas. In addition, in 1990 the Ministry of Health maintained 344 general hospitals, 280 specialized health care units for the treatment of endemic diseases, respiratory ailments, cancer and other diseases, and dental centers. There were about 45,000 beds in all government hospitals, plus an additional 40,000 beds available in private health institutes. The number of trained medical personnel was high relative to most middle-income countries. In 1990 there were more than 73,300 doctors in the country, approximately 1 physician per 715 inhabitants. There were also about 70,000 certified nurses. Medical personnel tended to be concentrated in the cities, and most preferred private practice to employment in public facilities. Fewer than 30 percent of all doctors and scarcely 10 percent of nurses served in villages.
Poor teabagger.
Today's American citizens are cowards, losers and unfit parents and grand parents for even CONSIDERING giving the Democratic Party Dictatorship Status as will happen if the current "Immigraiton Bill' passes as it is written. Another 30 million benefit and service starved foreign peasants with LITTLE TO NO job prospects in today's America will be the final DEATH BLOW for our Country when Democrats in power refuse to honor their "commitments" to enhanced Border Security. Can you hear them LAUGHING??? Suckers!!
person brown

Greeley, CO

#11 Jun 21, 2013
In any other country in the world if you showed up for free health care, even for an emergency, they'd give it to you but also charge you for it and deport you if you were illegal.

We should grab illegals at the emergency rooms, treat them humanely, care for their emergency and send them back home. Same with those caught driving on the highway for minor traffic violations. It's nuts to do otherwise.
Reality Bites

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#12 Jun 21, 2013
person brown wrote:
In any other country in the world if you showed up for free health care, even for an emergency, they'd give it to you but also charge you for it and deport you if you were illegal.
We should grab illegals at the emergency rooms, treat them humanely, care for their emergency and send them back home. Same with those caught driving on the highway for minor traffic violations. It's nuts to do otherwise.
You have to realize that 21st Century Americans are cowards who are void of common sense. You can't compare us to principled citizens in other Countries or to previous generations of Americans. We pander to illegals at our own families expense.
Austinite

Austin, TX

#13 Jun 21, 2013
person brown wrote:
In any other country in the world if you showed up for free health care, even for an emergency, they'd give it to you but also charge you for it and deport you if you were illegal.
We should grab illegals at the emergency rooms, treat them humanely, care for their emergency and send them back home. Same with those caught driving on the highway for minor traffic violations. It's nuts to do otherwise.
My brother in law's sister was on vacation in Mexico back in 2005 and got really sick, turned out to be food poisoning from the 4 star resort they were staying at.
She was taken by ambulance to a local hospital where she ended up in the emergency room for the day and then a regular room for two more.
The doctors, nurses, everything was very nice, clean, and professional. They all spoke English, except one nurse she said only spoke Spanish.
When she was discharged the police came with the billing clerk to the room and told her that her papers show she is legally in the country and she must pay the bill before leaving or she will be arrested for theft.
The hospital notifies police whenever a non citizen comes for services.
Since they did not accept her Humana HMO she charged the bill on her credit card, all $900.00 or so. Her insurance paid her back when she got back to San Antonio where she lived. They told her that for the services she got at the hospital in Mexico they were very good services and would have cost at least 50K or more anywhere in America.
Eleanor

Mundelein, IL

#14 Jun 21, 2013
Only 'some'??

At that rate the government will go broke even SOONER and no one but the rich elite will be able to afford health care insurance.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#15 Jun 21, 2013
Dane Thorsen wrote:
<quoted text>
Today's American citizens are cowards, losers and unfit parents and grand parents for even CONSIDERING giving the Democratic Party Dictatorship Status as will happen if the current "Immigraiton Bill' passes as it is written. Another 30 million benefit and service starved foreign peasants with LITTLE TO NO job prospects in today's America will be the final DEATH BLOW for our Country when Democrats in power refuse to honor their "commitments" to enhanced Border Security. Can you hear them LAUGHING??? Suckers!!
Teabagger gibberish.
El Cid

Austin, TX

#16 Jun 21, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
Only 'some'??
At that rate the government will go broke even SOONER and no one but the rich elite will be able to afford health care insurance.
Tuesday is Soylent Green Day.
See the Light

El Paso, TX

#17 Jun 21, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
The National Charter of 1962 stipulated that "the right of health welfare is foremost among the rights of every citizen."
The Ministry of Health provided free, basic health care at hundreds of public medical facilities. General health centers offered routine medical care, maternal and child care, family planning services, and screening for hospital admittance. These clinics were usually associated with the 1,300 social service units or the 5,000 social care cooperatives that served both urban and rural areas. In addition, in 1990 the Ministry of Health maintained 344 general hospitals, 280 specialized health care units for the treatment of endemic diseases, respiratory ailments, cancer and other diseases, and dental centers. There were about 45,000 beds in all government hospitals, plus an additional 40,000 beds available in private health institutes. The number of trained medical personnel was high relative to most middle-income countries. In 1990 there were more than 73,300 doctors in the country, approximately 1 physician per 715 inhabitants. There were also about 70,000 certified nurses. Medical personnel tended to be concentrated in the cities, and most preferred private practice to employment in public facilities. Fewer than 30 percent of all doctors and scarcely 10 percent of nurses served in villages.
Poor teabagger.
You said"Citizens" illegals are not citizens and will never be. Why don't you pay for some!
Sheik Yerbouti

Doylestown, PA

#18 Jun 21, 2013
person brown wrote:
In any other country in the world if you showed up for free health care, even for an emergency, they'd give it to you but also charge you for it and deport you if you were illegal.
We should grab illegals at the emergency rooms, treat them humanely, care for their emergency and send them back home. Same with those caught driving on the highway for minor traffic violations. It's nuts to do otherwise.
That is not the case. I was treated for pneumonia in Stockholm in 1967. When I offered to pay the bill they said there would be no charge since I was a guest in their country. I should mention that I was there legally on a student visa and had the resources to pay the hospital bill. The care was as good as in the US.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#19 Jun 21, 2013
See the Light wrote:
<quoted text>You said"Citizens" illegals are not citizens and will never be. Why don't you pay for some!
WTF?

Being that stupid should be crime, instead they are invited to join the Tea Party.

You need I.Q. points in the double digits just to flatline.

Poor, Poor teabagger.

Since: Apr 08

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#20 Jun 21, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
The National Charter of 1962 stipulated that "the right of health welfare is foremost among the rights of every citizen."
The Ministry of Health provided free, basic health care at hundreds of public medical facilities. General health centers offered routine medical care, maternal and child care, family planning services, and screening for hospital admittance. These clinics were usually associated with the 1,300 social service units or the 5,000 social care cooperatives that served both urban and rural areas. In addition, in 1990 the Ministry of Health maintained 344 general hospitals, 280 specialized health care units for the treatment of endemic diseases, respiratory ailments, cancer and other diseases, and dental centers. There were about 45,000 beds in all government hospitals, plus an additional 40,000 beds available in private health institutes. The number of trained medical personnel was high relative to most middle-income countries. In 1990 there were more than 73,300 doctors in the country, approximately 1 physician per 715 inhabitants. There were also about 70,000 certified nurses. Medical personnel tended to be concentrated in the cities, and most preferred private practice to employment in public facilities. Fewer than 30 percent of all doctors and scarcely 10 percent of nurses served in villages.
Poor teabagger.
This isn't Egypt and illegals aren't citizens.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#21 Jun 21, 2013
Bama Yankee wrote:
<quoted text>
This isn't Egypt and illegals aren't citizens.
Another one?

No wonder teabaggers let Rannity and Limbaughtomy do their thinking for them.

THEY'RE the SMART ones.

The National Charter of 1962 stipulated that "the right of health welfare is foremost among the rights of every citizen."
The Ministry of Health provided free, basic health care at hundreds of public medical facilities. General health centers offered routine medical care, maternal and child care, family planning services, and screening for hospital admittance. These clinics were usually associated with the 1,300 social service units or the 5,000 social care cooperatives that served both urban and rural areas. In addition, in 1990 the Ministry of Health maintained 344 general hospitals, 280 specialized health care units for the treatment of endemic diseases, respiratory ailments, cancer and other diseases, and dental centers. There were about 45,000 beds in all government hospitals, plus an additional 40,000 beds available in private health institutes. The number of trained medical personnel was high relative to most middle-income countries. In 1990 there were more than 73,300 doctors in the country, approximately 1 physician per 715 inhabitants. There were also about 70,000 certified nurses. Medical personnel tended to be concentrated in the cities, and most preferred private practice to employment in public facilities. Fewer than 30 percent of all doctors and scarcely 10 percent of nurses served in villages.

Is that our health care plan?

Then obviously I wasn't referring to the citizen's of this country or illegals in this country.

The plan is for Egyptian citizen's that reside in EGYPT.

Since: Apr 08

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#22 Jun 21, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>
Another one?
No wonder teabaggers let Rannity and Limbaughtomy do their thinking for them.
THEY'RE the SMART ones.
The National Charter of 1962 stipulated that "the right of health welfare is foremost among the rights of every citizen."
The Ministry of Health provided free, basic health care at hundreds of public medical facilities. General health centers offered routine medical care, maternal and child care, family planning services, and screening for hospital admittance. These clinics were usually associated with the 1,300 social service units or the 5,000 social care cooperatives that served both urban and rural areas. In addition, in 1990 the Ministry of Health maintained 344 general hospitals, 280 specialized health care units for the treatment of endemic diseases, respiratory ailments, cancer and other diseases, and dental centers. There were about 45,000 beds in all government hospitals, plus an additional 40,000 beds available in private health institutes. The number of trained medical personnel was high relative to most middle-income countries. In 1990 there were more than 73,300 doctors in the country, approximately 1 physician per 715 inhabitants. There were also about 70,000 certified nurses. Medical personnel tended to be concentrated in the cities, and most preferred private practice to employment in public facilities. Fewer than 30 percent of all doctors and scarcely 10 percent of nurses served in villages.
Is that our health care plan?
Then obviously I wasn't referring to the citizen's of this country or illegals in this country.
The plan is for Egyptian citizen's that reside in EGYPT.
No shiite, Sherlock.

What was the point ins wasting the space posting about something that has absolutely no relevance to the topic?
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#23 Jun 21, 2013
Bama Yankee wrote:
<quoted text>
No shiite, Sherlock.
What was the point ins wasting the space posting about something that has absolutely no relevance to the topic?
It was in response to a question that was relevant.

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