Health insurance markets open; succes...

Health insurance markets open; success to be seen

There are 139 comments on the Yahoo! story from Oct 1, 2013, titled Health insurance markets open; success to be seen. In it, Yahoo! reports that:

Millions of Americans will be able to shop for the first time Tuesday on the insurance marketplaces that are at the heart of President Barack Obama's health care reforms, entering a world that is supposed to simplify the mysteries of health coverage but could end up making it even more confusing, at least initially.

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“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#64 Oct 1, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
Texans are a lot better off financially then those poor people in Illinois. So how's that Obamacare doing for'ya? I tried to tell you yesterday this would be a boondoggle, but you wouldn't listen. I can't tell me how happy it makes me to watch all you idiots struggle. About time you did something.
"NY Health Insurance Exchanges receive 2.2 million hits in the first one and a half hours of opening."

"In total, over 7.1 million hits on the health care exchanges were recorded on this first day."

Guess what you stupid C*ntnip74 - that means a lot of people are signing up - at much lower rates that can be received by the unemployed on "Cobra".

Gonna be fun laughing at all of you right wing fools as this keeps rolling along.

And since it's already funded, you CAN'T STOP IT!

Keep committing political suicide.
Chicopee

Danbury, CT

#65 Oct 1, 2013
sheepleloveroyalty wrote:
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Thank You. This is first hand experience for me. The pro ACA crowd quote as much rhetoric as the anti ACA crowd. Some hospitals actually state a possible 60% discount on methods of payment. One hospital chain has package deals on non emergency procedures. The only caveat must pay up front. I've also been told by financial counselors that their cash services are based on or near cost.
This is an excellent article on health care cost and problems. Point being they point out if this gentleman had the same hospitalization after the ACA his bill would've been a fraction of his final bill. Some of the ACA mandates on the providers include that if they accept government funding Medicare/Medicaid they have to offer discounted or charity services.
http://articles.philly.com/2012-06-11/busines...
I think people also confuse a monetary loss with not getting an insurance based desired fee. Yes they didn't get what they could've with an insured patient but they didn't 'lose' either.
Cutting through the rhetoric and trying to ascertain the facts is 90% of the battle. Thanks for the link.
Chicopee

Danbury, CT

#66 Oct 1, 2013
TonyT1961 wrote:
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"NY Health Insurance Exchanges receive 2.2 million hits in the first one and a half hours of opening."
"In total, over 7.1 million hits on the health care exchanges were recorded on this first day."
Guess what you stupid C*ntnip74 - that means a lot of people are signing up - at much lower rates that can be received by the unemployed on "Cobra".
Gonna be fun laughing at all of you right wing fools as this keeps rolling along.
And since it's already funded, you CAN'T STOP IT!
Keep committing political suicide.
Not for nothin'...7.1 million "hits". A good percentage of those were likely redundant, since the system is full of glitches and most were unable to actually enroll. Just sayin'.

Cat74 is just a citizen, like you and like me. None of us has the power to stop anything, or to keep it rolling. Therefore, she's not committing political suicide.

And please clean up your language. It's particularly offensive to the ladies on these threads. Since it doesn't enhance your arguments, why diminish yourself that way?
Your Ex

United States

#67 Oct 2, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
You can't shop the exchanges, the websites don't work. More of the liberal plans they had five years to work out.
Colorado's working just fine.
But then, we don't go with the okie definition of internet, 2 calculators connected by a string....;)
Eleanor

Mundelein, IL

#68 Oct 2, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Well it is a free market...... However, when shopping for a plan on the State Exchanges, why would you not review the list of providers your choice plan contracts with?
Shopping for insurance isn't rocket science.
Every plan has a updated list of physicians who has a reimbursement agreement in place with the insurer. For most people who have insurance that is how they chose their plans.
How did you choose your current plan?
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It is NOT a free market when the government MANDATES everyone buy something!!!

Free market is that IF you want to sell something, you HAVE TO FIND someone interested in buying. If someone else is also selling something similar, then you might make quality adjustments or price adjustements, etc.

BUT if you are selling something and the GOVERNMENT IS FORCING people to buy what you are selling, the free market forces are in FAVOR of the INSURANCE COMPANIES!
sheepleloveroyal ty

Bryn Mawr, PA

#69 Oct 2, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
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It is NOT a free market when the government MANDATES everyone buy something!!!
Free market is that IF you want to sell something, you HAVE TO FIND someone interested in buying. If someone else is also selling something similar, then you might make quality adjustments or price adjustements, etc.
BUT if you are selling something and the GOVERNMENT IS FORCING people to buy what you are selling, the free market forces are in FAVOR of the INSURANCE COMPANIES!
It's almost turning the health INSURANCE industry into a state sponsored monopoly. It's forcing the patients to become customers of this for profit monopoly. That's why this is nothing but a backdoor to socialized medicine. Phase One now complete.

INSURANCE should be an OPTION. INSURANCE does not cover or deal with the actual COST-the problem with health CARE in the US.
Your Ex

United States

#70 Oct 2, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
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It is NOT a free market when the government MANDATES everyone buy something!!!
Free market is that IF you want to sell something, you HAVE TO FIND someone interested in buying. If someone else is also selling something similar, then you might make quality adjustments or price adjustements, etc.
BUT if you are selling something and the GOVERNMENT IS FORCING people to buy what you are selling, the free market forces are in FAVOR of the INSURANCE COMPANIES!
Just be glad you don't have a car.
Cat74

Barrington, IL

#71 Oct 2, 2013
So Obama thinks the glitches in applying for Government healthcare is a good thing? What is good about it? It won't work, and everyone but Obama, and his tribesmen know it won't work. It certainly proves once and for all how truly incompetent the Democrats really are. I laughed so hard when I heard some Obamaite try to explain what went wrong. What went wrong after 1,288 days. It is truly disgusting. Incompetent, thy name is Barack

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Since: Nov 08

Paris

#72 Oct 2, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Why are you so desperate for the Affordable Care Act to fail? Is it because its success would look good for Obama?
It doesn't need to, it's unconstitutional.

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Since: Nov 08

Paris

#73 Oct 2, 2013
TonyT1961 wrote:
<quoted text>"NY Health Insurance Exchanges receive 2.2 million hits in the first one and a half hours of opening."

"In total, over 7.1 million hits on the health care exchanges were recorded on this first day."

Guess what you stupid C*ntnip74 - that means a lot of people are signing up - at much lower rates that can be received by the unemployed on "Cobra".

Gonna be fun laughing at all of you right wing fools as this keeps rolling along.

And since it's already funded, you CAN'T STOP IT!

Keep committing political suicide.
I don't doubt it with all the mooches in NY. Should be more. Most must be still in bed.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#74 Oct 2, 2013
Obama is a joke wrote:
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If Obamacare is so wonderful, why have there been so many exemptions?
You have to measure "Obamacare" against our previous system, with its millions of exclusions and price-gouging premiums.
Remember, the Affordable Care Act is the product of compromise with the GOP. Obama's original hope was for a single payer plan, which would have been a lot more "wonderful".

“Hicksville Hootenanny”

Since: Sep 13

Kornfield Kounty

#75 Oct 2, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
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It doesn't need to, it's unconstitutional.
The SC says you're an uninformed jackass. So does 99% of toothpix.

hahahahahahahahahaha

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Since: Feb 08

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#76 Oct 2, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>He not only deserves to be vilified, he should be taken out and shot for treason. This moron pushed this through with lies, trickery and the idiots in Washington didn't even bother to READ it! Seriously, how stupid are you to be ok with this? Now that some of the baboons have sort of read it, they now want to opt out of it! So......they will shove it up the taxpayers asses but they can be exempt from the shitcare. Seriously.....how stupid are you to be ok with this?
You are frothing at the mouth again. Your absurd sense of superiority only exposes your clownish hysteria. Shoo!

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Since: Feb 08

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#77 Oct 2, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
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It doesn't need to, it's unconstitutional.
Not according to the Supreme Court, Le Bozo.
Eleanor

Mundelein, IL

#78 Oct 2, 2013
Your Ex wrote:
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Just be glad you don't have a car.
Yes. Not having a car is a way to not have to purchase automobile insurance.

The only way to not have HEALTH INSURANCE is to be dead!!

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#79 Oct 2, 2013
Chicopee, you'll have to excuse Tony, he can't help it, he was brought up to be that way towards women and people he deems inferior to him. You should see how he treats me, and i'm not even anti Italian.

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Since: Feb 08

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#80 Oct 2, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
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Yes. Not having a car is a way to not have to purchase automobile insurance.
The only way to not have HEALTH INSURANCE is to be dead!!
But think of the premiums!

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#81 Oct 2, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>You have to measure "Obamacare" against our previous system, with its millions of exclusions and price-gouging premiums.
Remember, the Affordable Care Act is the product of compromise with the GOP. Obama's original hope was for a single payer plan, which would have been a lot more "wonderful".
Keep dancing puppet.

It sucks that all these Dems even at the state levels are playing theses games with people's livelihoods. They either don't have a brain cell in the skull or they are just straight up Marxist Socialist drones following the leader. The only end result I can see in all this obamacare mess is this. A single payer, single serve system. What does that mean? It means basically you pay uncle sam your medical insurance and he tells you if you are sick enough to go to the doctor, he tells you if you can have treatment and he decides how much doctors get paid. Think of how it works in Cuba, doctors don't get paid SH$% so how many bright smart talented people are going to devote 8 -10 years to school to work and get paid nothing? There is already a shortage due to obamacare. I'm old enough and well educated enough to be able to tell you exactly where this is headed. Straight down the shitter. The rich will be able to get medical care because there will be 'private' practices popping up everywhere which take cash only. Everyone else will be just a number in the government system. Chaos is a coming and Hell is riding with her.

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Since: Feb 08

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#82 Oct 2, 2013
LoLBama wrote:
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Keep dancing puppet.
It sucks that all these Dems even at the state levels are playing theses games with people's livelihoods. They either don't have a brain cell in the skull or they are just straight up Marxist Socialist drones following the leader. The only end result I can see in all this obamacare mess is this. A single payer, single serve system. What does that mean? It means basically you pay uncle sam your medical insurance and he tells you if you are sick enough to go to the doctor, he tells you if you can have treatment and he decides how much doctors get paid. Think of how it works in Cuba, doctors don't get paid SH$% so how many bright smart talented people are going to devote 8 -10 years to school to work and get paid nothing? There is already a shortage due to obamacare. I'm old enough and well educated enough to be able to tell you exactly where this is headed. Straight down the shitter. The rich will be able to get medical care because there will be 'private' practices popping up everywhere which take cash only. Everyone else will be just a number in the government system. Chaos is a coming and Hell is riding with her.
Education does not necessarily confer wisdom, as you so eloquently demonstrate.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#84 Oct 2, 2013
Had you ever reviewed an itemized bill from the hospital? Apparently you have not, but the cost of a typical Aspirin often run as much as $50.00

The cost of care for those without coverage is passed along to those who have coverage in the extraordinary premium pricing.

If you had coverage you were paying out of pocket you would know and if you carried a policy over several years you would have seen the premium increases year to year despite you maybe not even having to had used your insurance.

No person in America who has any long standing relationship with a Health Care insurer can not say they have not been stunned by the constant price increase in premiums and the outright cost of a solid care plan.

From the post most of you who post here either don't have insurance, or have a limited policy from a third party like a job that doesn't cover much, maybe catastrophic events.

It's just no possible to not know how expensive HC Insurance has been over the last 15 years.
Chicopee wrote:
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Mooching free loaders? How, exacty, are you paying for them? It's the uninsured who do pay their medical costs who are eating the overages there, not the insured, whose bills get knocked down into the 40% of original cost range. And I work in the financial dept of a medical facility, and handled all medical insurance claims at a previous job for six years before that.
Contrary to popular chatter and headlines, many of the uninsured pay their medical bills. Some can negotiate the bills lower, but they never get near the deductions the insurance companies do. The one group who consistantly doesn't pay are illegal aliens, and they supposedly won't be covered by the ACA. Are those the moochers you're referring to? Because that's not going to change.
Hospitals and medical facilities often apply for Medicaid for those who can't pay, and they more often than not (especially here in Ct., where they'll cover just about anyone), get approved. Medicaid will take a long time to pay, but will usually pay about the same amount percentage wise as the insurance companies do.
Medicaid is what costs you, and all of us, money. Where the hell do you think those funds come from? Taxpayers. And the ACA is going to signifigantly expand Medicaid enrollment in all states. Which is what makes the cost estimates on the ACA bill so friggin' laughable. We're going to pay more for less insurance and get taxed to death on top of it.
All the illegals and tens of millions more citizens are still going to get a free ride, and we'll all be paying the freight.

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