Is Medicaid Doomed? How Ryan's Plan W...

Is Medicaid Doomed? How Ryan's Plan Would Affect America's Very Poorest

There are 30 comments on the www.theatlantic.com story from Aug 15, 2012, titled Is Medicaid Doomed? How Ryan's Plan Would Affect America's Very Poorest. In it, www.theatlantic.com reports that:

He doesn't just want to trim America's insurance program for the poor. He wants to bulldoze the whole thing and replace it with something more modest.

Democrats are giddy to attack Paul Ryan's Medicare reforms, but it's his plan for Medicaid that will have the fastest and most massive impact on the U.S. health care. How massive? Think 44 million additional Americans without health insurance, in a worst case scenario.

If that number leaves you a bit dizzy, or skeptical, it's a testament to how radically Ryan would like to reshape the federal program that's responsible for insuring low-income Americans, and which also happens to be at the heart of Obamacare's attempt to expand health coverage. In the most recent budget proposal, Ryan pledged to cut Medicaid spending by $810 billion dollars over ten years.

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Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#21 Aug 16, 2012
You make a good point. Why would we give Solyndra $5000million to waste when it could have gone to Medicare. Why would we increase our national debt to the point we can barely afford the interest. Why would our leader(s) do that?

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#22 Aug 16, 2012
RustyS wrote:
You make a good point. Why would we give Solyndra $5000million to waste when it could have gone to Medicare. Why would we increase our national debt to the point we can barely afford the interest. Why would our leader(s) do that?
Worry more about the $8 BILLION that Bush "lost" in Iraq.

Since: May 11

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#23 Aug 16, 2012
RustyS wrote:
You make a good point. Why would we give Solyndra $5000million to waste when it could have gone to Medicare. Why would we increase our national debt to the point we can barely afford the interest. Why would our leader(s) do that?
Everyone is missing the point completely. That's why we're in the mess we're in. We seem to think it's OK for one leader to f*ck, but not another. If Romney breaks the country in half, you won't say word, will you. It'll be fine and dandy. You'll swear he's the greatest thing ever put on earth.

So where does it stop? If one side says THEIR president can can screw, and the other side says THEIR president can screw up we're doomed. If we can't come to some resolution on politicians PERIOD, regardless of their flavor, we'll just continue to sink.

Since: May 11

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#24 Aug 16, 2012
missed a "ups" in that last post. Please put the word "up" in the appropriate places.:-)
xnutmegger

Phoenix, AZ

#25 Aug 16, 2012
PayThat CEO wrote:
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Why do we say things like "how to keep Medicare" when we have tossed trillions of dollars in the direction of the Middle East over the last 10 years?
I'm curious about this. What is more important? American tax payers' money being used for the betterment of American tax payers OR American tax payers' money being used to support another region of the world?
Typical LEFTY...engage deflection...change subject... move on...forward.

Add to it ( Medicare costs) I just found out ( due to Medicare cuts) my GP is now starting to charge NON-Medicare patients to fax scripts to drug companies.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#26 Aug 16, 2012
PayThat CEO wrote:
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Everyone is missing the point completely. That's why we're in the mess we're in. We seem to think it's OK for one leader to f*ck, but not another. If Romney breaks the country in half, you won't say word, will you. It'll be fine and dandy. You'll swear he's the greatest thing ever put on earth.
So where does it stop? If one side says THEIR president can can screw, and the other side says THEIR president can screw up we're doomed. If we can't come to some resolution on politicians PERIOD, regardless of their flavor, we'll just continue to sink.
Another great point. We gave Obama a chance and he couldn’t or wouldn’t change. Time to try somebody else. If they don't do it we fire them too. We do the same for the House and Senate.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#27 Aug 16, 2012
Mr_Bill wrote:
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Worry more about the $8 BILLION that Bush "lost" in Iraq.
I do worry about GW Bush’s debt. After 8 years of his presidency our national debt was $10,627,961,295,930.67. I really worry about Obama debt, after only 3 years our national debt is now $15,914,973,399,362.53. Obama is neither fixing the problems Bush created nor the problems he created. Adding $5TRILLION in debt should show some progress. The cost of living is increasing. Unemployment in increasing. Our debt is really increasing. I worry that giving Obama another term will only increase our debt and the original problems will remain. Blaming Bush does not fix anything.

Since: May 11

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#28 Aug 17, 2012
RustyS wrote:
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Another great point. We gave Obama a chance and he couldn’t or wouldn’t change. Time to try somebody else. If they don't do it we fire them too. We do the same for the House and Senate.
We've been doing THAT for over 200 years and look where it's brought us. Fire, hire, fire, hire. We've done this 44 times.

You know what they say about the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and getting the same result? Well, that's exactly what we do, only we flip-flop back and forth according to our personal party preference.

Saw the interview with Ann Romney last night. She says she is positive her husband (and herself) will save America. My first questions was "save it from what?" Flood, fire, God's wrath, what? The economy?

Oh, forgive me. I forgot about the economy. The economy that a previous Republican ran into the ground and it has never recovered because our leaders in Congress act like schoolchildren and can't agree on anything. They even take pledges that they will not work as a team and bring cohesiveness to this country.

And if Super Mitt can save the country, why didn't he do it before now? Why didn't he sit down with the president and work TOGETHER to come up with a solution? Because he HAS no solution. Because he doesn't give a rat's butt about Americans, he only cares about himself and getting elected. Sounding like a Super Hero is his way of attracting attention.

I'm sorry, but I still remember well where GWB led us for 8 years. Where we are right now has a great deal to do with his lack of leadership and protection of the wealthy. Mitt has given us nothing to go on...no ideas, no plans, nothing but letting Ryan, his little boy, scare the beJesus out of people by even mentioning the word Medicare.

Romney would like nothing more than to do away with Medicare. He'd like nothing more than to institute the so-called Fair Tax. Many American idiots don't realize this would be complete destruction of the middle class.

This is where we are going to have to take sides. If you choose to back a wealth-protecting president then expect to have what you have taken from you. GWB did it and we all sat by and let it happen. Why do you think our homes are now worth less than they were 10 years ago? So vote in another just like him and see what it gets us. The rich are clamoring for him; why do you think that is? Vote in Romney and expect to lose what little you have left from the last Republican president.

Since: May 11

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#29 Aug 17, 2012
RustyS wrote:
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I do worry about GW Bush’s debt. After 8 years of his presidency our national debt was $10,627,961,295,930.67. I really worry about Obama debt, after only 3 years our national debt is now $15,914,973,399,362.53. Obama is neither fixing the problems Bush created nor the problems he created. Adding $5TRILLION in debt should show some progress. The cost of living is increasing. Unemployment in increasing. Our debt is really increasing. I worry that giving Obama another term will only increase our debt and the original problems will remain. Blaming Bush does not fix anything.
My question to you is this. What is Romney going to do that will solve all these problems? Take from the elderly? Are you kidding me?

Has he even once mentioned the wars in the Middle East and how to stop funding them? Now as we move ever closer to becoming involved in Syria, will Romney rubberstamp THAT because he knows war means money for the rich?

You and I both know that ANYTHING Obama tried was blocked by Republican obstructionism from day one. And don't kid us into believing Democrats had the majority for two years. Republicans still wielded a tremendous amount of power and they used it.

What a sad place we live in when we will vote for a party with such a hate-on that they would place their own country in jeopardy to obtain their own selfish wants. Had THEY worked WITH Obama and the country was still in a shambles, then I would say YES, Obama failed. But since they worked against him, I can't denounce him or give Republicans the credit they think they deserve.

Since: Jul 07

#30 Aug 17, 2012
PayThat CEO wrote:
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My question to you is this. What is Romney going to do that will solve all these problems? Take from the elderly? Are you kidding me?
Has he even once mentioned the wars in the Middle East and how to stop funding them?... Republicans still wielded a tremendous amount of power and they used it.
What a sad place we live in when we will vote for a party with such a hate-on that they would place their own country in jeopardy to obtain their own selfish wants. Had THEY worked WITH Obama and the country was still in a shambles, then I would say YES, Obama failed. But since they worked against him, I can't denounce him or give Republicans the credit they think they deserve.
actually, it is not a sad place we live in. the system is working the way it was designed, with checks and balances. if half the people believe one way, and half the other, you get into these types of stalemates. currently the POTUS is trying to exercise executive power that he does not have. congress will likely rein that in. i still believe that a true leader can get things done even in this scenario. obama ain't the one....

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