Spinning Obamacare success

There are 20 comments on the Apr 22, 2014, The Washington Post story titled Spinning Obamacare success. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

The Fact Checker was on break last week, but did manage to pass a TV set that aired images of the president's announcement on April 17 that 8 million people had signed up for health insurance on the Affordable Care Act exchanges.

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foster

Ashburn, VA

#438 May 14, 2014
Delbert wrote:
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This isn't a logical request in any negotiations on expected compensation for long term employees.
Defined pension, 401K plans and Social Security are reasonable expectation, Employees generally are deducted for pension savings and social security, 401K are supplemental pension plans where employer make matching contributions up to a certain amount.
Not receiving reasonable security for years of work to one employer is parallel to being a prisoner, working on a chain gang. Don't sell yourself short, demand reasonable compensation while you're young so that you don't get stuck in mid life working for nothing except you weekly earnings.
This is the ticket to prosperity for dedicated workers.
foster

Ashburn, VA

#439 May 14, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Yes, and they should get a vacation home in Hawaii, an indoor swimming pool, a 54 foot fishing boat and a lifelong membership at their favorite spa.
Who do you people think pays for all this anyway?
Your bossif you make any meaning difference to his income
foster

Ashburn, VA

#440 May 14, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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If you want to profit from your company when you retire, then buy their stock throughout your working years.
You don't understand the simple concept of a job. You get hired for a job to produce money for your company. When you're not there, you're not producing anything. Yet some people feel they should continue getting paid for NOT producing anything.
One of the things that killed our auto manufacturers are these retirement benefits. Retirement benefits are also killing state budgets as well. That's why I buy Japanese. I don't want to pay workers that retired at the age of 48 in the price of my car.
If you boss profits from your work he compensates you enough to ensure you are happy. If he doesnt value your efforts he could cares less if you show up.
foster

Ashburn, VA

#441 May 14, 2014
Delbert wrote:
Japan has a system similar as America's.
Before 2001, companies in Japan offered retirement benefits as lump-sum severance payments and/or benefits from one of two types of defined benefit (DB) pension plans. One DB plan type was based on an earlier occupational pension model used in the United States. The other DB plan type allowed companies to opt out of the earnings-related portion of social security. Landmark laws passed in 2001 introduced a new generation of occupational retirement plans to employers and employees, creating three new DB plan designs and two new defined contribution types of plans
Stock options can be a component of a 401K plan, which are supplemental to defined benefit pension plans. In retirement the worker has 3 sources of income, Pension payments, 401K dividend payments and Social Security.
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All of the industrial economies have a similar retirement and employer pension system. We wrote Japan's system and constitution

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#442 May 14, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Okay hot shot, then go to the Commie Care site yourself and punch in a single person at the age of 54 and see what kind of quotes you get. I did go to the site when I lost my insurance from work. I know what it quoted me.
The plans are too expensive or garbage plans that cover nothing until you pay out-of-pocket $6,000 for the price you quoted.
As for my tenants, I did tell them exactly what I posted here. What are they going to do, move?
Having comprehension issues I see?

Look at my post again moron / I have had an ACA plan since late November of last year, and the price is also listed.

You're full of shit son - both your fantasy tenants as well as your supposed quoted insurance plans. See knucklehead, as a tenant of yours, I would file a suit against you for putting out malicious information about me, if you actually had the balls to show me this crap, which I'm 100% positive YOU DID NOT!

Internet warriors never fess up to someone when confronted - that's why people like you hide unregistered behind a computer screen and spew nonsense.

Go away boy - see I come here infrequently / because I work for a living.

Try it sometime.
Brad

Marlborough, CT

#443 May 14, 2014
foster wrote:
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My point of which you chimned in on was simply, America without respect for written law would be Argentina.
Having an access of laws is your deflection point
BS,liar.

I posted a comment to xxxrayted when YOU chimed in with your big fat lying mouth,liar.

What is it with you useless liberals that feel they have to lie when the truth will more than do,,,liar?

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#444 May 14, 2014
The public employees attempt to spin their own worth as much as they do with obamacare. Both are bloated money pits, causing ruination to state and municipal entities.

Public employees need to work under the same guidelines as the private sector. How long would a customer service rep last at Macy’s if they were caught downloading porn at their desk? How about the sales rep at Direct Build that only had two sales a month? The first, an EPA nightmare, the second, obamacare lackeys.

Obamacare continues to be the poster child of waste and inefficiency.

"Whistleblower: ACA contractor in Wentzville pays employees to do nothing”
http://www.kmov.com/news/investigates/News-4-...

“Hicksville Hootenanny”

Since: Sep 13

Kornfield Kounty

#445 May 14, 2014
From Boehner to Rush: Republicans Are Crushed as Obamacare Enrollment Hits 17.8 Million

Republicans have reacted to the fact that they were completely wrong about the ACA, by changing the subject to Benghazi.

The Republican Party looks like they are in the middle of a full blown nervous breakdown, as they are incapable of handling the success of the ACA.

....Call the fellows in the white jackets. LMAO.

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/05/01/boehne...
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#446 May 14, 2014
TonyT1961 wrote:
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Having comprehension issues I see?
Look at my post again moron / I have had an ACA plan since late November of last year, and the price is also listed.
You're full of shit son - both your fantasy tenants as well as your supposed quoted insurance plans. See knucklehead, as a tenant of yours, I would file a suit against you for putting out malicious information about me, if you actually had the balls to show me this crap, which I'm 100% positive YOU DID NOT!
Internet warriors never fess up to someone when confronted - that's why people like you hide unregistered behind a computer screen and spew nonsense.
Go away boy - see I come here infrequently / because I work for a living.
Try it sometime.
Typical liberal moron. I guess you're so informed about law that you don't know you can't sue somebody because they said something about you namelessly. What a dope.

As for the Commie Care web site, they closed it otherwise I would enter the information myself and copy the URL and post it here so that everybody would know you're FOS.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#447 May 14, 2014
foster wrote:
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If you boss profits from your work he compensates you enough to ensure you are happy. If he doesnt value your efforts he could cares less if you show up.
He could compensate you until the cows come home. But then he wouldn't be able to compete and sell his product or service because he's paying people that are not bringing income into the company.

With the exception of government, why do you suppose most all companies got out of the business of lifetime benefits?
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#448 May 14, 2014
Delbert wrote:
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This isn't a logical request in any negotiations on expected compensation for long term employees.
Defined pension, 401K plans and Social Security are reasonable expectation, Employees generally are deducted for pension savings and social security, 401K are supplemental pension plans where employer make matching contributions up to a certain amount.
Not receiving reasonable security for years of work to one employer is parallel to being a prisoner, working on a chain gang. Don't sell yourself short, demand reasonable compensation while you're young so that you don't get stuck in mid life working for nothing except you weekly earnings.
What you don't understand about business is that the employee pays for everything he or she gets. It's deducted from their wages before taxation.

You get a job at 25 bucks per hour with no benefits. But you and your coworkers want healthcare coverage, so now your employer provides that coverage, but you only make 22 dollars per hour.

Later you and your coworkers decide that 2 weeks of vacation isn't enough. You want 4 weeks. Again, the employer provides you that extra two weeks of vacation, but now you're making 20 dollars per hour.

Once again, you and your coworkers want a pension/ retirement plan. And once again, your employer agrees. But now you are making 18 dollars per hour.

On top of paying for your own benefits, your employer has to consider what it costs him or her to provide you with workman's compensation which goes up every year. Yearly increases in healthcare premiums, increases in unemployment insurance, and the list goes on and on.
foster

Ashburn, VA

#449 May 14, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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He could compensate you until the cows come home. But then he wouldn't be able to compete and sell his product or service because he's paying people that are not bringing income into the company.
With the exception of government, why do you suppose most all companies got out of the business of lifetime benefits?
if you not bringing in income you are no help to his profits. There is no other reason to have employees
foster

Ashburn, VA

#451 May 14, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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He could compensate you until the cows come home. But then he wouldn't be able to compete and sell his product or service because he's paying people that are not bringing income into the company.
With the exception of government, why do you suppose most all companies got out of the business of lifetime benefits?
They dont need skilled career orintated professionals if they pay no benefits. any warm body will due
Brad

Marlborough, CT

#452 May 15, 2014
conservative crapola wrote:
From Boehner to Rush: Republicans Are Crushed as Obamacare Enrollment Hits 17.8 Million
Republicans have reacted to the fact that they were completely wrong about the ACA, by changing the subject to Benghazi.
The Republican Party looks like they are in the middle of a full blown nervous breakdown, as they are incapable of handling the success of the ACA.
....Call the fellows in the white jackets. LMAO.
http://www.politicususa.com/2014/05/01/boehne...
Everyone knows by now the enrollment numbers are just an extension of the lies America has come to expect from this administration.

Who knows which scandal or lie will finally take down this criminal bunch of political hacks?

But I know I won't miss them when they're gone.
foster

Ashburn, VA

#453 May 15, 2014
Brad wrote:
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Everyone knows by now the enrollment numbers are just an extension of the lies America has come to expect from this administration.
Who knows which scandal or lie will finally take down this criminal bunch of political hacks?
But I know I won't miss them when they're gone.
the strategy of trying to make Benghazi a scandal is blowing up in the face of the GOP. Finding any new information shows the ineptness of prior GOP investigations, no new information is also a tradegy of time wasted

“Hicksville Hootenanny”

Since: Sep 13

Kornfield Kounty

#455 May 15, 2014
Brad wrote:
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Everyone knows by now the enrollment numbers are just an extension of the lies America has come to expect from this administration.
Who knows which scandal or lie will finally take down this criminal bunch of political hacks?
But I know I won't miss them when they're gone.
Still trying spin that tea-m extreme crushing defeat? How many times has Obama kicked your ass by now? Pivot to benghazi, boy, pivot. LMAO.

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#456 May 15, 2014
Brad wrote:
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Everyone knows by now the enrollment numbers are just an extension of the lies America has come to expect from this administration.
Who knows which scandal or lie will finally take down this criminal bunch of political hacks?
But I know I won't miss them when they're gone.
The site referenced is a loony blog using creative math. The moron counted the breakdown as separate figures, instead of reading the data where the numbers were inclusive. Quite disingenuous, but unexpected. What is equally disingenuous and expected is our left wingnuts using the bad math instead of the HHS (bloated) numbers.

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#457 May 15, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Typical liberal moron. I guess you're so informed about law that you don't know you can't sue somebody because they said something about you namelessly. What a dope.
As for the Commie Care web site, they closed it otherwise I would enter the information myself and copy the URL and post it here so that everybody would know you're FOS.
So braniac, you claim to have shown your pot head tenants what you wrote about them, and think they have no recourse in court?

WRONG! You supposedly (and we all know how full of shit you are) told them you wrote this specifically about them - therefore azzhole, you SUPPPOSEDLY not only incriminated yourself to them, but to others here - f'in moron you are!

As to your supposed quote you claim to have received, you would have received an e-mail detailing specifically which plans were in fact offered to you numbnuts - something you could in fact easily share should you ha actually done this / but alas, our stupidity as well as your lies know no boundaries.

Come on fantasy landlord who hasn't has a vacation in 20 years, but has a shitload of time to spend here - cough up the evidence!

So let's sum this up;

You claim to be a trucker, but are here every single day

You claim you lost your health insurance, and the ACA was too expensive

BUT, you have multiple properties you rent, yet still can't afford health care???????

BHAWWWWWW!!!!

you idiots make these boards a funny experience, I'll give you that!
Brad

Marlborough, CT

#458 May 15, 2014
conservative crapola wrote:
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Still trying spin that tea-m extreme crushing defeat? How many times has Obama kicked your ass by now? Pivot to benghazi, boy, pivot. LMAO.
Speaking of pivoting,by the summer of 2013 Oblamer had promised to pivot to jobs for the 19th time,of course he never did.

Wonder what the grand total is up to now?

“Hicksville Hootenanny”

Since: Sep 13

Kornfield Kounty

#459 May 15, 2014
Brad wrote:
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Speaking of pivoting,by the summer of 2013 Oblamer had promised to pivot to jobs for the 19th time,of course he never did.
Wonder what the grand total is up to now?
Not nearly as often as boner said jobs were his number one priority.

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