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Obamacare: Californians will pay 10th highest rates in country under health exchange

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TOPSHOTS US President Barack Obama listens to President Michel Sleiman of Lebanon speaking to the media before a bilateral meeting on the sideline of the 68th United Nations General Assembly at the UN in New York on September 24, 2013.

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#168 Oct 6, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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FOX does not come anywhere close to half.
Shug...
Geez, do I have explain everything? Read what I wrote. Half the citizens, you genius...oh, I forgot, your a Lib, and all Libs demand everyone thinks like them. Thats why we have a law requiring you to buy a "for profit" resale item, cuz you all know whats best for the other half...Like I said, the biggest fear a Lib has, is that someone, somewhere, DOESNT need their help...
I admit, there are many good aspects to the ACA(covering pre-conceived conditions). There are many horrible aspects to the ACA(covering "children" till 26). Most people with some common sense agree with that. So why not correct the bad things? Do you know that if your legal age "child" buys no insurance, YOU get the penalty? Most dont know that, but they will come tax time...many other surprises are in store. You are proving my point that most dont know that facts about the ACA, cuz they rely on ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, for their info. Dont you realize that that all these news organizations are so far up Obama's rear they cant see the truth through the all the crap?

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#169 Oct 6, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Are we apologizing for proving you were lying when you insisted Congress is exempt from the ACA?
Which of your lies are you referring too?
This one...why you no reply to it?????????? I know why....

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-08-10...

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#170 Oct 6, 2013
BTW, since you are a stickler for words, Congress is not exempt FROM the ACA, they are exempt from certain provisions in the ACA. Will you at least admit to that? If not, then there is no hope for you...we can explain and show facts, but cant make you understand...

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#171 Oct 6, 2013
edsmith1360 wrote:
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Geez, do I have explain everything?
I think you should number your lies so we can refer to them quickly.

You can start with the lie that Congress is exempt from the ACA, that would be lie #1.

Not that it is anything close to your first lie, it is just a reference.

Call it lie #89 if you like.

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#172 Oct 6, 2013
edsmith1360 wrote:
Half the citizens, you genius...
Sweetie: you referred to FOX- the foreign 'news' network as half, not me.

And it is nothing close to half the citizens or half the broadcast networks, any way you try to play it.

Don't blame me for your sloppy writing.

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#173 Oct 6, 2013
edsmith1360 wrote:
Thats why we have a law requiring you to buy a "for profit" resale item,
Do you have car insurance, Shug?

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#174 Oct 6, 2013
edsmith1360 wrote:
BTW, since you are a stickler for words, Congress is not exempt FROM the ACA.
Not the one who made that claim, shug.

You see how numbering your lies would come in handy?

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#175 Oct 6, 2013
edsmith1360 wrote:
BTW, since you are a stickler for words, Congress is not exempt FROM the ACA, they are exempt from certain provisions in the ACA.
Gosh, there are many provisions in the ACA that you could insist are exemptions that pretty much can cover everyone in the USA in one way or another.

Are members of Congress exempt from the ACA? Yes or no?
Hey Scooter

Beckley, WV

#176 Oct 6, 2013
Hey scooter, have any gay themed wet dreams last night? OOPS sorry, forgot you where dead from the waist/waste down. Between your typing on the computer and watching your collection of gay porn, what else do you do?

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#177 Oct 6, 2013
edsmith1360 wrote:
There are many horrible aspects to the ACA(covering "children" till 26).
Horrible?

That insurance companies are required to carry the children until 26 of parents who want to cover their kids on their insurance is horrible?

So you don't have any children, eh?
Hey Scooter

Beckley, WV

#178 Oct 6, 2013
Yeah, keeping deadbeat kids on your insurance till they are 26 is helping them.

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#179 Oct 6, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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I think you should number your lies so we can refer to them quickly.
You can start with the lie that Congress is exempt from the ACA, that would be lie #1.
Not that it is anything close to your first lie, it is just a reference.
Call it lie #89 if you like.
You keep ignoring this link of fact...so I am done with you. If you just keep ignoring the link then there is nowhere to go with this discussion. Later turd...

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-08-10...

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#180 Oct 6, 2013
edsmith1360 wrote:
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You keep ignoring this link of fact...so I am done with you.
Always love it when people protest they are going to ignore me... some for years at a time, reminding me several times a day.

I will remind you we are still waiting for you to acknowledge your assertion that Congress is exempt from the ACA.

If you like, I can provide links to pictures of a bomber on the moon on the internet... not always are internet links the vanguard of verisimilitude.
Dee Dee Dee

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#181 Oct 7, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
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You are remarkably full of yourself for somebody who never knows what they are talking about.
You have said a number of times that you do not have coverage through your employer and you buy individual insurance yourself. Apparently you have changed your story again, but that is nothing new.
This law has no effect on you at all. You enjoy the same "exemption" as Congress, the President, SCOTUS, Jay Carney, FOX correspondents and anybody else in the country that already has insurance.
I pay $3200 a month for medical insurance for the family. You now claim to pay absolutely nothing. That is good and I am happy for you, but to somehow suggest that somebody who pays thousands of dollars for something is somehow being subsidized by somebody who does not pay one cent for insurance is bizarre.
Again you make things up. I have never said that I do not have coverage through my employer. You are becoming delusional.
Secondly my premiums increased 400% within 3 months of Obama care being passed since insurance companies wanted to increase profits before their profits were capped by Obama care. Funny how they have not gone back down now that Obama care is in effect.
I have no idea what your last statement even means. It is true I do not pay one cent for my health insurance. I pay almost half of what you pay. In fact what you pay for your family is about right compared to what I pay for two people. I do get a small break because it is a group program but I do not get a subsidy from the government like you will. Most likely you will pay less per person than I do. In fact it is possible that you do now since I do not know how many people you have in your family.
If you get a subsidy from the government to reduce your health insurance as you have said you will then I am subsidizing your health insurance since I am a tax payer. The government cannot give you anything that it does not take from somebody else.
Defund It

Sierra Madre, CA

#182 Oct 7, 2013
Get rid of it.
Memo From Turner

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#183 Oct 7, 2013
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
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Again you make things up. I have never said that I do not have coverage through my employer. You are becoming delusional.
Secondly my premiums increased 400% within 3 months of Obama care being passed since insurance companies wanted to increase profits before their profits were capped by Obama care. Funny how they have not gone back down now that Obama care is in effect.
I have no idea what your last statement even means. It is true I do not pay one cent for my health insurance. I pay almost half of what you pay. In fact what you pay for your family is about right compared to what I pay for two people. I do get a small break because it is a group program but I do not get a subsidy from the government like you will. Most likely you will pay less per person than I do. In fact it is possible that you do now since I do not know how many people you have in your family.
If you get a subsidy from the government to reduce your health insurance as you have said you will then I am subsidizing your health insurance since I am a tax payer. The government cannot give you anything that it does not take from somebody else.
Your premiums have increased 400% since Obamacare? Really? Why do you think the world is picking on you personally? Is Obama himself behind this?

In the real world we all know that since the law was passed healthcare costs have increased by the smallest rates in the past 50 years. It is not clear why you alone are being treated differently. than everybody else in the country?

http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2013/08/27/Nea...

You have outdone yourself in this post. Normally you just change the story from one post to the next, but here you are actually contradicting yourself in the same sentence.

"It is true I do not pay one cent for my health insurance. I pay almost half of what you pay".

So what is it? Do you not pay one cent or are you paying thousands of dollars per month like me? There is a bit of difference.

It is pretty clear that you know little about how insurance works and absolutely nothing about how the ACA works.

You made some odd statement about receiving a "small break because it is a group" policy. What do you think the whole point of the debate is about? Group policies generally cost 30% of an individual plan with a lot less benefits. That is where the ACA savings come from. The state exchanges basically create group plans for people who would not otherwise be eligible for a group plans. That's all.

I never said I was receiving a subsidy. You just make up stuff.

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#184 Oct 7, 2013
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
Secondly my premiums increased 400% within 3 months of Obama care
So you had triplets, eh?

What a shame it is God doesn't strike liars dead where they stand.
spud

Weatherly, PA

#185 Oct 8, 2013
When politicians promise you something for nothing, you gotta remember, there's no such thing. You can't get better coverage for more people for less money. Not happening, regardless what Dems say.

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#186 Oct 8, 2013
spud wrote:
You can't get better coverage for more people for less money.
You can't get coverage for no money, no matter what the Republicans say.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#187 Oct 8, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
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Your premiums have increased 400% since Obamacare? Really? Why do you think the world is picking on you personally? Is Obama himself behind this?
In the real world we all know that since the law was passed healthcare costs have increased by the smallest rates in the past 50 years. It is not clear why you alone are being treated differently. than everybody else in the country?
http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2013/08/27/Nea...
You have outdone yourself in this post. Normally you just change the story from one post to the next, but here you are actually contradicting yourself in the same sentence.
"It is true I do not pay one cent for my health insurance. I pay almost half of what you pay".
So what is it? Do you not pay one cent or are you paying thousands of dollars per month like me? There is a bit of difference.
It is pretty clear that you know little about how insurance works and absolutely nothing about how the ACA works.
You made some odd statement about receiving a "small break because it is a group" policy. What do you think the whole point of the debate is about? Group policies generally cost 30% of an individual plan with a lot less benefits. That is where the ACA savings come from. The state exchanges basically create group plans for people who would not otherwise be eligible for a group plans. That's all.
I never said I was receiving a subsidy. You just make up stuff.
I don't pay a cent for insurance, I pay much more than that as I said. You really do have a comprehension problem. I am sorry if you did not understand what I said. Maybe you can get an adult to read it to you and explain. When I say my premium increased 400% I was not the only one. All of my co-workers saw the same increase. My company tried to find a different provider but they were all even more expensive. I am sorry I confused you but the subject seems to be way over your head so it is a bit difficult to dumb down my posts for you.
Nobody has received a subsidy yet but you said that you expect your health insurance rates to go down which will be due to government subsidies that of course come out of taxpayer's pockets. Of course those who do not pay taxes don't have to worry about that.

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