Obamacare: Californians will pay 10th highest rates in country under health exchange

Sep 26, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Daily Democrat

TOPSHOTS US President Barack Obama listens to President Michel Sleiman of Lebanon speaking to the media before a bilateral meeting on the sideline of the 68th United Nations General Assembly at the UN in New York on September 24, 2013.

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Brad

Marlborough, CT

#1009 Nov 25, 2013
Oblamer-Kare depends on the 18-34 year olds to buy the product at the highest premiums.
Kids are now on their parents policies till they're 26 years old.
Lots of them have tons of school debt and can't find jobs in this flailing economy.
Most will opt out in favor of the low cost of the tax they'll have to pay as a penalty.
Half the country seemed to know this in 2009 and now its come to fruition with the administration and MSM running interference for Oblamers blatant lies.
Now Oblamer swoops in and fixes everything with a single payer system,medicaid.
Was he smart enough to orchestrate these events,or,so incompetent he never saw it coming?
Truth Facts

Chillicothe, OH

#1010 Nov 25, 2013
Brad wrote:
Oblamer-Kare depends on the 18-34 year olds to buy the product at the highest premiums.
Kids are now on their parents policies till they're 26 years old.
Lots of them have tons of school debt and can't find jobs in this flailing economy.
Most will opt out in favor of the low cost of the tax they'll have to pay as a penalty.
Half the country seemed to know this in 2009 and now its come to fruition with the administration and MSM running interference for Oblamers blatant lies.
Now Oblamer swoops in and fixes everything with a single payer system,medicaid.
Was he smart enough to orchestrate these events,or,so incompetent he never saw it coming?
Smart enough? NO he's got people pulling his strings (Jarrett)All this is ,is redistribution,socialistic medicine.In 2009 all the lies he told the sheep had them believing him. Had he told the truth from the get go this law would have NEVER passed.Lies and deception you know the liberal way.
Brad

Marlborough, CT

#1011 Nov 25, 2013
Truth Facts wrote:
<quoted text>Smart enough? NO he's got people pulling his strings (Jarrett)All this is ,is redistribution,socialistic medicine.In 2009 all the lies he told the sheep had them believing him. Had he told the truth from the get go this law would have NEVER passed.Lies and deception you know the liberal way.
Oblamer has never hidden the fact he favors a single payer plan but didn't think the nation was ready for it.
I think he knew dam well what he was doing and never intended it to get off the ground floor.
spud

Reading, PA

#1012 Nov 26, 2013
Looking back, we could have avoided all this craziness if our idiotic chief justice would have done the right thing. I expected that from Kagan and Sotomayor but not him.
Memo From Turner

Wantagh, NY

#1013 Nov 26, 2013
Brad wrote:
Oblamer-Kare depends on the 18-34 year olds to buy the product at the highest premiums.
Kids are now on their parents policies till they're 26 years old.
Lots of them have tons of school debt and can't find jobs in this flailing economy.
Most will opt out in favor of the low cost of the tax they'll have to pay as a penalty.
Half the country seemed to know this in 2009 and now its come to fruition with the administration and MSM running interference for Oblamers blatant lies.
Now Oblamer swoops in and fixes everything with a single payer system,medicaid.
Was he smart enough to orchestrate these events,or,so incompetent he never saw it coming?
That is a strange collection of rants.

First you state that "Kids are now on their parents policies till they're 26 years old" and then you say the very same kids will "opt out" of their free insurance. It just makes no sense at all.
spOko

Oakland, CA

#1014 Nov 26, 2013
positronium wrote:
<quoted text>It is a deliberate escape from accountability and deception and that is all.
Dishonesty in the highest degree. Under Obama that was to be expected by those not blind to it.
Ok looney toons, you wanna talk deception:

How the Heritage Foundation, a Conservative Think Tank, Promoted the Individual Mandate / 10/20/2011 / http://tinyurl.com/7yztznx

ROMNEY: Actually, Newt, we got the idea of an individual mandate from you.

GINGRICH: Thatís not true. You got it from the Heritage Foundation.

ROMNEY: Yes, we got it from you, and you got it from the Heritage Foundation and from you.

GINGRICH: Wait a second. What you just said is not true. You did not get that from me. You got it from the Heritage Foundation.

ROMNEY: And you never supported them?

GINGRICH: I agree with them, but Iím just saying, what you said to this audience just now plain wasnít true.

ROMNEY: OK. Let me ask, have you supported in the past an individual mandate?

GINGRICH: I absolutely did with the Heritage Foundation against Hillarycare.

ROMNEY: You did support an individual mandate?

ROMNEY: Oh, OK. Thatís what Iím saying. We got the idea from you and the Heritage Foundation.

GINGRICH: OK. A little broader.

ROMNEY: OK.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2011/10/20/h ...
Memo From Turner

Wantagh, NY

#1015 Nov 26, 2013
spOko wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok looney toons, you wanna talk deception:
How the Heritage Foundation, a Conservative Think Tank, Promoted the Individual Mandate / 10/20/2011 / http://tinyurl.com/7yztznx
ROMNEY: Actually, Newt, we got the idea of an individual mandate from you.
GINGRICH: Thatís not true. You got it from the Heritage Foundation.
ROMNEY: Yes, we got it from you, and you got it from the Heritage Foundation and from you.
GINGRICH: Wait a second. What you just said is not true. You did not get that from me. You got it from the Heritage Foundation.
ROMNEY: And you never supported them?
GINGRICH: I agree with them, but Iím just saying, what you said to this audience just now plain wasnít true.
ROMNEY: OK. Let me ask, have you supported in the past an individual mandate?
GINGRICH: I absolutely did with the Heritage Foundation against Hillarycare.
ROMNEY: You did support an individual mandate?
ROMNEY: Oh, OK. Thatís what Iím saying. We got the idea from you and the Heritage Foundation.
GINGRICH: OK. A little broader.
ROMNEY: OK.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2011/10/20/h ...
It is ironic that all of the things Republicans complain about with the ACA, mandates, websites, contraception coverage, etc. would have never been an issue if we had a simple single payer system like everybody else wanted. Leave it to the Republicans to scream about their own plan.

“Rico's Are Everywhere”

Since: Dec 09

Gangland, North America

#1016 Nov 26, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
It is ironic that all of the things Republicans complain about with the ACA, mandates, websites, contraception coverage, etc. would have never been an issue if we had a simple single payer system like everybody else wanted. Leave it to the Republicans to scream about their own plan.
Have you seen this Republican rant?

Secretary of State John Kerry along with France, Germany, Britain, China and Russia have brokered a deal with Iran curbing their nuclear program and ending 34 years of diplomatic gridlock.

The Republican reaction:

John Cornyn Republican Senator in a tweet:

"Amazing what WH will do to distract attention from O-care."

The Health Care ĎDistractioní Conspiracy
http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/11/2...
Memo From Turner

Wantagh, NY

#1017 Nov 26, 2013
Rico from East Los II wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you seen this Republican rant?
Secretary of State John Kerry along with France, Germany, Britain, China and Russia have brokered a deal with Iran curbing their nuclear program and ending 34 years of diplomatic gridlock.
The Republican reaction:
John Cornyn Republican Senator in a tweet:
"Amazing what WH will do to distract attention from O-care."
The Health Care ĎDistractioní Conspiracy
http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/11/2...
It's amazing how Obama got all of these countries including Iran who has not spoken to us in 34 years to all help him set up the distraction. The man is a genius.

“Rico's Are Everywhere”

Since: Dec 09

Gangland, North America

#1018 Nov 26, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
It's amazing how Obama got all of these countries including Iran who has not spoken to us in 34 years to all help him set up the distraction. The man is a genius.
It goes to show that Republicans are not living in reality.
Brad

Marlborough, CT

#1019 Nov 26, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
That is a strange collection of rants.
First you state that "Kids are now on their parents policies till they're 26 years old" and then you say the very same kids will "opt out" of their free insurance. It just makes no sense at all.
Is it really that hard for you to connect the dots,really?
The 18-26 year olds that the bill targeted to shoulder the burden will be on their parents policies,when they turn 27 they will opt out in favor of the much lower tax penalties,its called irony,or,stupidity to rely on people who won't contribute in the numbers needed to make the dam thing work.
These are the same young people straddled with impossibly high student loan debt entering a weak economy where there are few,if any,jobs to be had.
Every day this sham of Oblamers gets worse and worse.
Truth Facts

Chillicothe, OH

#1020 Nov 26, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
It's amazing how Obama got all of these countries including Iran who has not spoken to us in 34 years to all help him set up the distraction. The man is a genius.
And your foolish enough to believe IRAN.
Truth Facts

Chillicothe, OH

#1021 Nov 26, 2013
Rico from East Los II wrote:
<quoted text>
It goes to show that Republicans are not living in reality.
Really?
Truth Facts

Chillicothe, OH

#1022 Nov 26, 2013
Even libturbs are starting to recognise(except here) what was sold to Americans is not what's happening with his bastard law.For 100 yrs. you libturds have tried to get things your way and now this law is going to set you back another couple decades. If he would have told the truth from the beginning this law would have NEVER passed.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#1023 Nov 26, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
It is ironic that all of the things Republicans complain about with the ACA, mandates, websites, contraception coverage, etc. would have never been an issue if we had a simple single payer system like everybody else wanted. Leave it to the Republicans to scream about their own plan.
The ironic part is that people like you now blame the Republicans for Obama's folly. At the end of the day Obama wanted a healthcare law, he lied to get support from voters and he signed the law.
spOko

Oakland, CA

#1024 Nov 26, 2013
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
<quoted text>
The ironic part is that people like you now blame the Republicans for Obama's folly. At the end of the day Obama wanted a healthcare law, he lied to get support from voters and he signed the law.
The only thing more successful in Kentucky (a red state) than Bourbon is Obamacare
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/how-kentucky-...
Memo From Turner

Wantagh, NY

#1025 Nov 26, 2013
Brad wrote:
<quoted text>
Is it really that hard for you to connect the dots,really?
The 18-26 year olds that the bill targeted to shoulder the burden will be on their parents policies,when they turn 27 they will opt out in favor of the much lower tax penalties,its called irony,or,stupidity to rely on people who won't contribute in the numbers needed to make the dam thing work.
These are the same young people straddled with impossibly high student loan debt entering a weak economy where there are few,if any,jobs to be had.
Every day this sham of Oblamers gets worse and worse.
You do realize that the whole thing with 18-26 year olds on their parent's policy is because of the ACA. It saves them thousands of dollars a year. I bet you also complained when Obama's student loan plan saved the "young people straddled with impossibly high student loan debt" boatloads of money.
Truth Facts

Chillicothe, OH

#1026 Nov 26, 2013
The CBS This Morning segment opened with Charlie Rose telling viewers, "CBS News is learning that another promise by the government isn't holding up. Some who get their insurance through work are losing their coverage." And it only got worse from there.
"We learned that the government estimated all along," Sharyl Attkisson reports, "that millions of workers will be dropped from their employee insurance under [ObamaCare], and for some it is already happening."

After telling the story of two small business owners (one once featured in a pro-ObamaCare ad), forced by ObamaCare price spikes to drop coverage for their employees, Attkisson plays a montage of clips featuring White House spokesman Jay Carney. Again and again, while trying to contain the fallout from President Obama lying about being able to keep your insurance, Carney assures Americans that those who get health insurance through their employers have absolutely nothing to worry about. ButÖ

"Öin 2010," Attkisson reveals. "The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Service estimated that ObamaCare would collectively reduce the number of people with employer-sponsored health coverage by about 14 million.'"

This is the first time I am aware of that anyone in the mainstream media has reported on the fact that the employer-market is about to get walloped by Obamacare, and that the Obama administration knows this and has known it for over three years.

When President Obama said you can keep your health insurance, he lied. And when the White House tried to contain the damage from that lie with the claim that these cancellations would only hit 5% of the public in the individual health insurance market, that was nothing more than another lie.

Other government documents show that as many as 80 million policies in the employer market could be canceled. IF YOU LIKE YOUR INSURANCE YOU CAN KEEP YOUR INSURANCE was a lie all along. How do people still support such a deceiver?
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#1027 Nov 26, 2013
spOko wrote:
<quoted text>
The only thing more successful in Kentucky (a red state) than Bourbon is Obamacare
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/how-kentucky-...
But I thought Republicans were trying to destroy Obamacare and here we see that Republicans are doing a better job implementing the law than Democrats, as usual. I guess that is just another lie told to make Republicans look bad. It seems that unlike Obamacrats, Republicans follow the law even if they donít agree with it.
The enrolment numbers aren't impressive 26K out of 625K but at least the Republicans were able to build a website that works. Of course with the 17th oldest population in the country they are going to have a tough time getting enough young healthy people to sign up. That's o.k. though the taxpayers will cover the loss and provide the guaranteed profit for the insurance companies.
SNJ

Horten, Norway

#1028 Nov 26, 2013
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
"The rates, however, will be lower for poor and middle-income people who qualify for the federal subsidies."
This should read;
"The rates, however, will be lower for poor and middle-income people who qualify for the tax payer provided subsidies."
If you remove your blind-fold you may see that your health-care systems today are just opening up for a massive mis-use of medical skills to create un-precedented personal income. Your national medical moral is probably your worst enemy economy-wise. Unnecessary surgery performed just for the surgeon (hospital) to increase turnover.
That's probably why you do have to bleed white for medical care that is taken for granted in f.inst. my country - free of charge here as well, for your guidance......

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