Obamacare: Californians will pay 10th highest rates in country under health exchange

Brian_G wrote:

<quoted text>^^^I think these are the words of a sick racist.

I think the thoughts are of a sick racist.

Similarly: someone who has problems with gays getting health treatments for the same condition you may suffer from as bigots and you... a hypocrite.

Brian_G wrote:

I oppose government mandates to force insurance pools to provide fertility treatments to same sex couples and singles.

As I said: you are a bigot.

Two men otherwise exactly the same: one gets treatment, the other not.

In the same way that bigots insist it's okay for heterosexuals to get married but homosexuals: not.

Yet then insist civil unions are the same as marriages but not allow fertility treatments for civil marriages.

Bigots.

PS: I'm making an observation, not asking for your opinion.

Brian_G wrote:

We're not really discussing health insurance, we're discussing a radical change in government's relation to family.

The goverment that mandates that people get treated the same way.

Horrors.

Two men otherwise identical- call them identical twins- need a health treatment.

One gets it; the other, you insist, doesn't.

Bigot.

Brian_G wrote:

<quoted text>And every same sex couple is infertile

So not only are you a bigot, you are an idiot.

A woman who is not pregnant is not infertile.

Two woman otherwise identical: both have treatable conditions which keep them from becoming pregnant.

You allow one to get treatment, the other, you insist, should not get it.

Bigot.

Human beings have the right to reproduce. It is inarguable human right.

Bigot.

Brian_G wrote:

<quoted text>You're insurance pool should pay for a surrogate mother?

Both men have exactly the same condition: they have a blocked varicoceles that can be repaired with surgery.

You insist one should not have the surgery because he is a homosexual.

Bigot.

Brian_G wrote:

<quoted text>We used to encourage couples to marry and provide their own resources before starting families; now single women and same sex couples are treated the same as married husbands and wives in California.

And treating all citizens as equals gets under your skin, doesn't, bigot?

We also used to not treat black men who had syphilis to observe the progression of the disease.

PS: California is not the only state that treats people equally, and those that make a distinction are being weeded out by the Supreme Court. SCOTUS understands that laws cannot discriminate against a person just because he or she is gay, particularly when it involves the health and well-being.

Dee Dee Dee wrote:

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So now I am a nut job because I actually express my views directly to politicians. I guess I could just be a loser like you who anonymously sling insults at people on the internet. ha ha ha ha.

Post your contact information for us, A-mish. I bet you think you really make a difference.

bwahahahahahahahahaha

barefoot2626 wrote:

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Really?
Do show us these "executive orders" exempting (you say) millions.
Putting aside ACA is law and if you want to change the law- and this is the tricky party for the tea bagged to understand- you change the law through the legislative process that has worked for 240 years.

Where have you been hiding? Can't believe you haven't heard the news of all the exemptions Obama gave. Here's one: UNIONS

Yes, we are absolutely trying to change ObamaScare THRU the legislative process. It's been going on since Oct. 1.

WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN??? And btw, you don't have to call people names to be effective. Just saying.

barefoot2626 wrote:

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I am a 23 year old single male who just had a health exam. Part of my exam reveals that I am not fertile.
This is a health condition that I would like to correct.
And you insist I do not have the right to have treatment, even though I pay the exact same rates as you.
That's how it works, bigot.

You're 23? Well, that explains it all.

(Sorry about your fertility prob, btw.)

Purple Independent wrote:

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Where have you been hiding? Can't believe you haven't heard the news of all the exemptions Obama gave. Here's one: UNIONS

Nope.

Purple Independent wrote:

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You're 23? Well, that explains it all.

Nope.

Anything else, dear?

Purple Independent wrote:

Yes, we are absolutely trying to change ObamaScare THRU the legislative process. It's been going on since Oct. 1..

It's been going on since the ACA became law and the GOP has failed over 40 times using the legal process.

That is why Boner is using this process of extortion now, Princess.

Purple Independent wrote:

And btw, you don't have to call people names to be effective. Just saying.

BTW: I say if you don't want it thrown back in your face, you shouldn't dish it out.

Thanks for sharing, Shug!

barefoot2626 wrote:

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BTW: I say if you don't want it thrown back in your face, you shouldn't dish it out.
Thanks for sharing, Shug!

Unlike you, I didn't call you names, so you have nothing to throw back to me.

And btw, I'm NOT your dear and CERTAINLY NOT your princess. You are so arrogant and condescending for your age. What kind of a childhood did you have to make you so angry? That was a rhetorical question btw; pls don't reply. And put your money where your mouth is: You said you're not talking to me anymore, so STOP talking to me!

barefoot2626 wrote:

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Nope.

Ah yes and King hussein has givin 1251 waivers to his buddies.But wont give a year waiver to ALL AMERICANS.

barefoot2626 wrote:

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BTW: I say if you don't want it thrown back in your face, you shouldn't dish it out.
Thanks for sharing, Shug!

You have a lot more patience then most people with this clown. He is just too dumb to deal with.

Truth Facts wrote:

<quoted text>Ah yes and King hussein has givin 1251

Nope.

Wipe your chin, Sweetie.

barefoot2626 wrote:

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I am a 23 year old single male who just had a health exam. Part of my exam reveals that I am not fertile.
This is a health condition that I would like to correct.
And you insist I do not have the right to have treatment, even though I pay the exact same rates as you.
That's how it works, bigot.

Government shouldn't be involved in providing fertility treatments for anyone. Considering that they do, sexual preference or race shouldn't have anything to do with receiving those treatments. But if they took the recipients attitude into account, you would have a hard time getting treatment. For sure.

spud wrote:

<quoted text>Government shouldn't be involved in providing fertility treatments for anyone.

Reproducing is a human right.

What a shame it is the USA is the last industrialized country on the planet to provide health care for its citizens when it has spent billions of dollars on a fighter jet that they won't fly when the weather is bad.

barefoot2626 wrote:

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Reproducing is a human right.
What a shame it is the USA is the last industrialized country on the planet to provide health care for its citizens when it has spent billions of dollars on a fighter jet that they won't fly when the weather is bad.

What's wrong with adopting a child? You could give a very needy, wonderful child a chance for a good life. Have you ever considered that?