Oneida schools say federal law forced insurance cuts

Jul 17, 2013 Full story: WBIR-TV Knoxville 26

An East Tennessee school district says changes in federal law are forcing them to cut hours and insurance for some employees.

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just saying

Oneida, TN

#1 Jul 18, 2013
I don't see how they will get paid the same when they work less hours. The employees that is effected get paid hourly.
They didn't even tell them to their face. They sent a group letter.
disgraceful

Sunbright, TN

#2 Jul 19, 2013
a lot of these employes have been full time employes with the school ten, twenty even thirty years, now to be made part time, disgraceful way to treat loyal employes.
crap

Sunbright, TN

#3 Jul 19, 2013
if federal law was forcing this it would be on all employes not just on the so called low class employes.Thank maybe the teachers union might have something to say about it if they tried to include the teachers.
Thor

Sunbright, TN

#4 Jul 19, 2013
crap wrote:
if federal law was forcing this it would be on all employes not just on the so called low class employes.Thank maybe the teachers union might have something to say about it if they tried to include the teachers.
Teachers are salary paid while unskilled labor works by the hour. I'm not trying to upset anyone, just answering your question.
crap

Sunbright, TN

#5 Jul 20, 2013
ok, so salary or skilled lobor are not effected by the health care law. only the unskilled and hourly worker's, where I work ia'm an hourly worker, our ins. is not changen nor our work hours. only thing reqiried is all employes [full time] are to be offered ins.
That Is Right

Huntsville, TN

#6 Jul 20, 2013
crap wrote:
ok, so salary or skilled lobor are not effected by the health care law. only the unskilled and hourly worker's, where I work ia'm an hourly worker, our ins. is not changen nor our work hours. only thing reqiried is all employes [full time] are to be offered ins.
It isn't about salary vs. hourly workers or skilled labor vs. unskilled labor. The law says that if you work more than 30 hours a week (since 32 hours is typically what defines a full-time worker) and your employer has 50 workers or more, your employer must offer you an insurance plan. The employer must pay 60% of the plan, and your share of the plan cannot exceed 9.5% of your household's total income.

The reason the teachers weren't effected at Oneida is because they are already offered insurance, and there's a state law requiring them to be offered insurance. It would be nice if Oneida could offer every employee insurance, but the numbers were printed in the paper last week: it would cost $300,000, and 87% of Oneida's budget is salaries. So where do you get the $300,000? So, Oneida did what they had to do: they cut those employees back to 29 hours so it wouldn't have to provide insurance. BUT, they protected the employees by giving them the same wages despite fewer hours worked. Instead of talking about how crappy Oneida is treating its employees, folks ought to realize how good they're treating them. Find me ANY OTHER EMPLOYER who is cutting back their workers to part-time that's still paying them full-time pay with full-time benefits.

This isn't just Oneida either. The county schools will be doing it, probably starting next year. Employers all over the country are cutting workers or cutting their workers hours. I'm told that the new hospital will never employee more than 50 people so that they are able to get around it. The bottom line is that most employers cannot afford to pay all of their employees insurance benefits, and they are going to do what they have to do to keep their doors open. The results are devastating to the working man. But don't blame the employer. Blame the president and congress.
Older and Wiser

Deer Lodge, TN

#7 Jul 20, 2013
That Is Right wrote:
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It isn't about salary vs. hourly workers or skilled labor vs. unskilled labor. The law says that if you work more than 30 hours a week (since 32 hours is typically what defines a full-time worker) and your employer has 50 workers or more, your employer must offer you an insurance plan. The employer must pay 60% of the plan, and your share of the plan cannot exceed 9.5% of your household's total income.
The reason the teachers weren't effected at Oneida is because they are already offered insurance, and there's a state law requiring them to be offered insurance. It would be nice if Oneida could offer every employee insurance, but the numbers were printed in the paper last week: it would cost $300,000, and 87% of Oneida's budget is salaries. So where do you get the $300,000? So, Oneida did what they had to do: they cut those employees back to 29 hours so it wouldn't have to provide insurance. BUT, they protected the employees by giving them the same wages despite fewer hours worked. Instead of talking about how crappy Oneida is treating its employees, folks ought to realize how good they're treating them. Find me ANY OTHER EMPLOYER who is cutting back their workers to part-time that's still paying them full-time pay with full-time benefits.
This isn't just Oneida either. The county schools will be doing it, probably starting next year. Employers all over the country are cutting workers or cutting their workers hours. I'm told that the new hospital will never employee more than 50 people so that they are able to get around it. The bottom line is that most employers cannot afford to pay all of their employees insurance benefits, and they are going to do what they have to do to keep their doors open. The results are devastating to the working man. But don't blame the employer. Blame the president and congress.
I agree with you 100%. People aren't checking the facts themselves.
facts

Sunbright, TN

#8 Jul 20, 2013
you need to get your facts straight, they are not getting all their benefits their losing most of their sick days. that adds up to a lot of money, wonder those pocket that will go into.
facts

Sunbright, TN

#9 Jul 20, 2013
That Is Right wrote:
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It isn't about salary vs. hourly workers or skilled labor vs. unskilled labor. The law says that if you work more than 30 hours a week (since 32 hours is typically what defines a full-time worker) and your employer has 50 workers or more, your employer must offer you an insurance plan. The employer must pay 60% of the plan, and your share of the plan cannot exceed 9.5% of your household's total income.
The reason the teachers weren't effected at Oneida is because they are already offered insurance, and there's a state law requiring them to be offered insurance. It would be nice if Oneida could offer every employee insurance, but the numbers were printed in the paper last week: it would cost $300,000, and 87% of Oneida's budget is salaries. So where do you get the $300,000? So, Oneida did what they had to do: they cut those employees back to 29 hours so it wouldn't have to provide insurance. BUT, they protected the employees by giving them the same wages despite fewer hours worked. Instead of talking about how crappy Oneida is treating its employees, folks ought to realize how good they're treating them. Find me ANY OTHER EMPLOYER who is cutting back their workers to part-time that's still paying them full-time pay with full-time benefits.
This isn't just Oneida either. The county schools will be doing it, probably starting next year. Employers all over the country are cutting workers or cutting their workers hours. I'm told that the new hospital will never employee more than 50 people so that they are able to get around it. The bottom line is that most employers cannot afford to pay all of their employees insurance benefits, and they are going to do what they have to do to keep their doors open. The results are devastating to the working man. But don't blame the employer. Blame the president and congress.
the hourly employes where offered ins. they have about 70 hourly employes of which about 25 carried the ins. the other employes didn't carry the ins.because they couldn't affored it or was carried buy there spouse where they work.the one's that did carry it are no longer going to be offered ins. after the first of the year,now that's what I call losing a benfit.

Since: Dec 11

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#10 Jul 20, 2013
Ghost rider is a POS
licker

Jonesville, SC

#11 Jul 20, 2013
facts wrote:
<quoted text>the hourly employes where offered ins. they have about 70 hourly employes of which about 25 carried the ins. the other employes didn't carry the ins.because they couldn't affored it or was carried buy there spouse where they work.the one's that did carry it are no longer going to be offered ins. after the first of the year,now that's what I call losing a benfit.
Thanks for the info Connie Thomas. We will all feel a lot better about your operation.
sorry

Sunbright, TN

#12 Jul 21, 2013
pretty sorry bunch to treat their employees like this, what some people wont do for money.
Jar Head

Corryton, TN

#13 Jul 21, 2013
crap wrote:
ok, so salary or skilled lobor are not effected by the health care law. only the unskilled and hourly worker's, where I work ia'm an hourly worker, our ins. is not changen nor our work hours. only thing reqiried is all employes [full time] are to be offered ins.
Your insurance isn't changing YET........but brace yourself because it is coming and you aren't going to like it.
easy

Sunbright, TN

#14 Jul 23, 2013
easy enough for some to set back at there big desks, in their offices, with there big salaries and benefits,((( AND INSURANCE ))) and decide who gets cut back and who loses what. surprise!!! who would have guests? cooks, aids, and janitors,(((BIG SURPRISE))).
SO SAD

Sunbright, TN

#15 Jul 24, 2013
The hard workers always gets the shaft......
Older and Wise

Deer Lodge, TN

#16 Jul 25, 2013
easy wrote:
easy enough for some to set back at there big desks, in their offices, with there big salaries and benefits,((( AND INSURANCE ))) and decide who gets cut back and who loses what. surprise!!! who would have guests? cooks, aids, and janitors,(((BIG SURPRISE))).
God forbid if they cut all the cooks, ect. out and the parents have to fix their kids lunch to send with them huh? Maybe they should cut most of the teachers and keep all the cafeteria workers, aids, and maintenance. Let them teach the kids. Yeah buddy lets send 'em to school for everything else except the main reason their going.
easy

Sunbright, TN

#17 Jul 25, 2013
Older and Wise wrote:
<quoted text>God forbid if they cut all the cooks, ect. out and the parents have to fix their kids lunch to send with them huh? Maybe they should cut most of the teachers and keep all the cafeteria workers, aids, and maintenance. Let them teach the kids. Yeah buddy lets send 'em to school for everything else except the main reason their going.

What is the main reason. They go for everything now,( but the learning.)
Older and Wiser

Deer Lodge, TN

#18 Jul 25, 2013
easy wrote:
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What is the main reason. They go for everything now,( but the learning.)
Then it's settled! We do away with the schools completely and thus no more tax money at all to be spent on them. Our taxes go down and we're happy, but the unemployment rate goes up due to the school personal now being out of a job.
Thor

Sunbright, TN

#19 Jul 25, 2013
easy wrote:
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What is the main reason. They go for everything now,( but the learning.)
I would love for you to get a degree and teach for a few days. Take your home life away and grade papers along with lesson plans and working ballgames (free of course). You are never finished with college. You have to go back ever so often for more training. People can criticize the profession, but that usually are the one's too lazy to try it. You people that don't have the mentally, I'm not talking about you. You can only do what you are capable of.
easy

Sunbright, TN

#20 Jul 25, 2013
Thor wrote:
<quoted text>I would love for you to get a degree and teach for a few days. Take your home life away and grade papers along with lesson plans and working ballgames (free of course). You are never finished with college. You have to go back ever so often for more training. People can criticize the profession, but that usually are the one's too lazy to try it. You people that don't have the mentally, I'm not talking about you. You can only do what you are capable of.
Was not criticizing the profession, but if the shoe fits, "LOL" looks like you spend more time on topix than grading papers.....

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