Giardia in humans
mad

Cary, NC

#121 Jul 2, 2009
Alcohol makes my gardia situation gurgling worse.
In answer to your question.
mad

Cary, NC

#123 Jul 2, 2009
On my initial onset of this disease I experienced a tremendous headache, then the gas and extreme burping came soon after. It's been a year; our symptoms that come like clockwork every few weeks are the gurgling, extended belly, occasional diarrhea and headache. I suppose my family and I have leaky gut which will impair our health for life.
I am so sad and mad because from what I am reading on the Internet, it seems this is for life!!!!!
I tried eating garlic by the fistful, I tried the expensive herbal cleanses, para rid, chili peppers, I have even swallowed iodine solution thinking that if iodine can kill it in drinking water than maybe if I swallow the iodine it will kill the gardia in my gut. It didn't work, only caused a case of acne. I suppose I need to take the drug that may cause seizures. I would like to order something online because I don't have a doctor or insurance.
mad

Cary, NC

#125 Jul 2, 2009
Wayne wrote:
If you still have bad bowel movements, you still have the parasite. keep taking the oregano oil until the bowel movements are normal and "STAY" Normal.I would also recommend disinfecting everything in your house and all of your clothes with Hydrogen Peroxide. Both Gardia and Cryptosporidium are resistant to chlorine. Peroxide, and Oregano Oil are the best answers I can give you. It has worked for me, And I hope it works for all of you if you do decide to try it. Oregano Oil is pretty much harmless. But Like other hot and spicy things it burns! It will take your breath away! It just depends on whether you are willing to put up with that to get rid of the parasite. But with Children, you may want to consider giving them tiny amounts to see how it effects them. If there are no adverse effects, then proceed to a dose of about 3 or 4 drops in a glass of juice or water.
Thank you, Thank you I will try the Oregano.
It is also sold in gel capsules, a easy form for children. I am going to buy 100 bottles!
still mad

Cary, NC

#126 Jul 2, 2009
Hot Tub? Can 101 temp kill giardia.

Back yard swimming pool- I will take down until this goes away if it ever does.

Carpets- I will roll up and bleach mop floors daily and hot was all clothes, colors and all.

The 3 dogs, 2 ducks, and 6 chickens and 4 rats-
I wish I had the guts to get rid of them all!
instead I will heavily medicate them all.
Cleo

United States

#127 Jul 3, 2009
I've had Giardia for about 10 years and just recently diagnosed it. My firt bout was severe diarrhea, extreme fatigue and belching "rotten eggs". That was approximately 14 days of hell. I didn't know what it was and was unable to afford the doctor (no insurance back then). Every year, around the same time (spring) I got it again, but each year the duration was lessened. This year around Easter I had only one night of diarrhea. The strange thing is that the diarrhea would come at the same time each night, each year (around 11pm to 7 am) I would be living in the bathroom. I didn't have much nausea with it, only watery diarrhea and extreme fatigue. I also had another symptom, muscle tics. Whenever I was getting over the diarrhea I would have muscle tics several times a day. They would start in my legs and work up my arms and several years I had heart arrithymias. One time I almost fainted during an attack. I went to my doctor and he couldn't find anything wrong. Anyway, I still have them randomly. I don't know if the muscle tics are related to the giardia, but it frightens me to think they the little critters may have entered my bloodstream and found new places to hide. I know that they are anaerobic and can't survive where there is oxygen.

Anyway, I finally convinced my doctor that this is the cause of my illness so he put me on Flagyl for 10 days (2000mgs a day). The medicine either started another bout and woke the damn things up or the medicine was what was making me worse. I have enormous quantities of loose stools,(sorry I know, tmi), and extreme fatigue with pain in my upper area of my back and pain above my navel. I have just finished the medication and still feel that I have not cleared it. I will ask if I can try another medicine and if that doesn't work I'm going to try goldenseal.

I'd like to thank all of you for your input. I don't feel so alone and don't feel like I'm a crazy hypochondriac, like my doctor probably does. I really do hope that all of you feel better soon. I know what hell you all are going through with this nasty little creature. Hopefully they will find some medication that works 100% for a cure.

I am just grateful that I found this site. I didn't realize that alcohol, sugar and dairy were such a feast to these nasty parasites. I will avoid them like the plague. Good luck to each one of you and I will let you all know if I find something that works for me.
still mad

Cary, NC

#128 Jul 3, 2009
Hi Cleo, I am reading that lots of people seem to have the same disappointment about Flagyl. I am guessing, but I have a theory on feeling worse after the drug. There is a die off effect when you kill off a systemic yeast infection know as candida. The yeast releases a poison when it dies so they suggest doing the regiem gradually.
Definitely try a new drug and try the oregano and tons of fresh chopped garlic throughout your whole life! Keep your immune system up with eating Salmon and veggies.
You know what's weird, I feel awful when I drink a lot of water at one time, and doesn't giardia like water, it's a water born disease.
I am surprised that everyone in the world doesn't have it because of easily it spreads. I gave it to my whole family and best friend not knowing I had it at the time via sharing food or accidental switching of a water glass. My friend and my sister got it the next day they were near me.
Extreme headache and major burping were the tale tell very first signs for all of us.
The CDC, Center for Disease Control, needs to do something better than the relying on outdated drugs that everyone says do not work. We should start a petition for new CDC research.
michimom

Redford, MI

#129 Jul 7, 2009
I am 23 and a half weeks pregnant and just received positive results for Giardia. My primary care physician is recommending Flagyl 250 mg. 2x/day for a week. I am waiting to hear from my Obstetrician. I am scared that if I DO take the drug that it will harm the baby, and I'm scared if I DON'T that the Giardia untreated will harm the baby.

I do know that the drug crosses the placenta and has been carcinogenic to rats and is a Class B drug (like Tylenol). It is not recommended in the 1st trimester. I'm in my 2nd trimester.

Does anyone know:
1) If Giardia ever resolves on its own without drugs?
2) If Giardia untreated harms a fetus?

Thanks in advance for any insight or experience.
still alive

Cary, NC

#130 Jul 7, 2009
michimom wrote:
I am 23 and a half weeks pregnant and just received positive results for Giardia. My primary care physician is recommending Flagyl 250 mg. 2x/day for a week. I am waiting to hear from my Obstetrician. I am scared that if I DO take the drug that it will harm the baby, and I'm scared if I DON'T that the Giardia untreated will harm the baby.
I do know that the drug crosses the placenta and has been carcinogenic to rats and is a Class B drug (like Tylenol). It is not recommended in the 1st trimester. I'm in my 2nd trimester.
Does anyone know:
1) If Giardia ever resolves on its own without drugs?
2) If Giardia untreated harms a fetus?
Thanks in advance for any insight or experience.
My sister took is dog rescue person and took in a stray dog that was pregnant. It delivered puppies that were tested positive for giardia. Now granted, they were tested at three weeks old and the mother most likely gave the puppies the giardia through licking them. So don't share any saliva with your baby.
So No kisses to the mouth to your baby.
I gave my sister giardia by accidentally sharing a water glass with her at a restaurant.
This is more contagious than people think.
still alive

Cary, NC

#131 Jul 7, 2009
michimom wrote:
I am 23 and a half weeks pregnant and just received positive results for Giardia. My primary care physician is recommending Flagyl 250 mg. 2x/day for a week. I am waiting to hear from my Obstetrician. I am scared that if I DO take the drug that it will harm the baby, and I'm scared if I DON'T that the Giardia untreated will harm the baby.
I do know that the drug crosses the placenta and has been carcinogenic to rats and is a Class B drug (like Tylenol). It is not recommended in the 1st trimester. I'm in my 2nd trimester.
Does anyone know:
1) If Giardia ever resolves on its own without drugs?
2) If Giardia untreated harms a fetus?
Thanks in advance for any insight or experience.
Do not take the drug!!!!!
Take the natural route!!
I am sorry to not have said that in my previous reply.
I now have barely any symptoms and have taken oregano oil and garlic and keep my self healthy through eating fresh foods, no processed foods.
Please believe me don't risk the drug that does in fact cause seizures in humans. It will mess with your baby neurological system in its very delicate and vulnerable development stage.
michimom

Redford, MI

#132 Jul 8, 2009
FOR FUTURE PREGNANT WOMEN WITH GIARDIA, here's what I learned:

Keep in mind, I am 22 1/2 weeks (5 months) pregnant and in my 2nd trimester. DO NOT TAKE FLAGYL OR ANY OTHER DRUG IN THE 1ST TRIMESTER AND ALWAYS CONSULT YOUR PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN AND OBSTETRICIAN.

My primary care physician prescribed Flagyl (Metrozidinole) 250 mg 3x/day for 7 days. You need to take ALL of the medication for it to be effective. Don't stop when you start feeling better. You have to completely kill the parasite.

My obstetrician agreed and said I "need" to take it- that it is more of a risk not to treat it.

My cousin who is a pharmacist also confirmed and agreed with taking it. She looked up Giardia and Flagyl for pregnancy and confirmed what I had read - it is a Class B drug, safe in the 2nd and 3rd trimester, and it would be more harmful to take it later, for example when breast feeding because more of the drug gets into the breast milk and is passed to the baby than passes through the placental barrier to the fetus.(I had wondered about waiting to take the drug after birth to clear up the Giardia.)

I then called an infectious disease specialist and spoke with a nurse in their clinic who consulted a physician specialist there. They confirmed that I should take it and that GIARDIA DOES NOT RESOLVE ON ITS OWN.

For what it's worth, my sister who has 3 children believes it's important to make sure the mother is healthy, that if you don't have a healthy mother, you won't have a healthy baby. You don't want to have a compromised immune system. Your baby is counting on you to give it the healthy environment it needs.

I filled the prescription, said a prayer and have started my first dose.

Good luck to those of you who have to deal with this on an ongoing basis and to all of you other pregnant women out there.
Sally UK

UK

#133 Jul 9, 2009
Does anyone else suffer from these symptoms? First diagnosed with Giardia after 6 weeks of all the normal, diarrhea, gas, fatigue, weight loss, etc. so lucky to find a GP who even considered it (negative stool sample)! 5 days of Flagyl and the symptoms were relieved but the fatigue went on for weeks. 3 months later recurence of same symptoms but not so severe but the fatigue was unbelievable and now again 5 months later another episode short lived symptoms but the fatigue is back worse in the mornings but improves during the day and some days are worse than others, I have had another 5 days of Flagyl which have improved everything but the utter exhaustion is debilitating beginning to think there is something more serious going on as my 2 stool samples both came back negative! Any thoughts?
michimom

Redford, MI

#134 Jul 9, 2009
I would see a Gastrointestinal Specialist.
Juliet Lewsley

Katy, TX

#135 Jul 11, 2009
Martin wrote:
I have had giardia since first bout Feb 07. All episodes have been tested and tested positive. I have had three different drugs and Flagyl 3x. I am tired of the illness and tired of the strong drugs. I have never been treated with a double dose or treated two weeks apart. The pattern is EXACTLY the same everytime: headache,loose stools,malaise,slight nausea,occasional severe odd pain in Upper GI,blurping, cramping. Then treatment followed by 2-3 weeks of no symptoms where I feel fine and well. Then the symptoms start again. Then I get tested, then I get trated, then I feel weel,then I get sick.......help. I keep saying that i think I should be treated then treated again in 2 weeks or treated for two weeks instead of one. One of the drugs was a one-time dose. Oh, we treated my animals and my housemates were tested.
Please tell me you eventually got rid of the Giardia, I have been battling with for the last five months. Last batch of antibiotics worked, had negative test back felt fine for 1 week, then all the symptoms came back. Had a colonoscopy they took a biopsy to see if the parasite imbedded in intestine, I feel terrible!
Wayne

Freetown, IN

#136 Jul 11, 2009
Things that are very effective against Giardia:
1) The "Now" brand 100% pure Oregano Oil. It is extremely effective.
2) Organic Apple Cider Vinegar. It will also do the job.
3) I would recommend also taking MSM. MSM helps to coat the lining of the intestine which can pretting much force the parasite to retreat. Giardia doesn't like MSM.
4) Pumpkin seeds or Pumpkin seed oil. This can also help.
5) Black Walnut Hulls.
6) Garlic (whole herb)
7) Wormwood
8) Colloidial Silver is another very good one.
9) Potassium Iodide. The brand "Source Naturals" is what I take. This supplement cannot be taken over a long period of time. Potassium Iodide of course contains "Iodine" and iodine is a very powerful anti-microbial.
10) 35% Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BROWN BOTTLE FROM THE GROCERY STORE!!!! That stuff has stabilizers in it which are extremely toxic and can kill you. I'm talking about Food grade peroxide. You can mix a solution of 4 drops per every 8 oz. of DISTILLED water Only! And it will destroy the giardia parasite.
But out of all of these I would have to say that the Oregano Oil is most effective. I have no idea why, but I found that it worked best for me. But then again not everyone is the same.
Wayne

Freetown, IN

#137 Jul 11, 2009
The reason why many things are ineffective against giardia is because the parasite is protected by a "cyst". Apple cider vinegar contains a mild acid. This can help to cause corrosion of these cyts. Oregano oil can also do the same. But for some reason, these cysts have been know to be resistant to chlorine in the drinking water at safe levels. Of course, high levels of chlorine can destroy them, but that can also kill you as well! The best disinfectant for the home for matters like this is hydrogen peroxide, or ozone.
Wayne

Freetown, IN

#138 Jul 12, 2009
PLEASE REMEMBER! When you take something that is very effective, you will suffer a healing crisis. That means major diahrrea and stomach upset until all of the dead organisms are out of your body. Many people will actually stop taking effective treatment for that reason. Don't back off! In other words, effective treatment will cause a temporary worsening of symptoms until the parasite is completely gone.
hym

Cary, NC

#139 Jul 12, 2009
What is Msm?
still alive

Cary, NC

#140 Jul 12, 2009
Hi Wayne, thank you for your information that you have shared with us!
What is MSM?
I bought iodine from the camping section of a sports store. Currently I am putting drops of it in my cup of juice, and drinking it immediately without letting it set. I realize that it's probably not safe doing that, but how not safe is it do you think?
I have been doing this for a couple of days now thinking that if it kills giardia in standing water than why wouldn't it kill the giardia in my stomach and intestines.
I think this giardia is actually making me crazy, I can't not sleep at night, getting two hours of sleep on average for the past few months. My mind racing all day and night, despite no caffeine, energy drinks or alcohol in my diet. I can't make reasonable judgment calls based on gut intuition.(I heard that brain cells exist in your gut it is where a large part of where instinct and gut reaction come from.) I bet this parasite is screwing up my thinking.
I can't believe where I got giardia, in my own home due to my sister bringing in a homeless dog that was living at large for a long time in the woods in Maryland.
Meanwhile I have been to Nepal, India, all over South America and many Indonesian islands and managed to never get giardia. I was cautious washing fruit in iodine solution and by boiling drinking water or always putting iodine tablets in my water bottle and letting it set before drinking it. I made even the water out of streams of the foot hills of Mt. Everest safe to drink. So that is why I am so mad about getting it in my own HOME!!!
I then unknowingly gave it to my young children via the hot tub and a backyard swimming pool. We have ducks, chickens and dogs that I will probably have to treat. We have a several acre pong in our woods that I will assume is now tainted by the ducks. The ducks drink out of the dog's water bowl who must have giardia through eating our left overs!
Meanwhile I may have a real big problem brewing. I have over 5 thousand tree frog tadpoles that have hatched in out abandoned pool.
If the pool did in fact spread the giardia from me to the kids , oh my, what to do then. It will be a record amount of giardia carrying tree frogs unleashed on the environment!
I tried to get the nerve to drain the pool and let all the tad poles die but I couldn't do it. They are so happy and full of life, what karma would come of kiling over 5 thoudand frogs in one fell swoop? Ok, I will test the water for giardia and kill the tad poles it if it comes back positive. Where and how do I test the pool? Water dept? Buy a microscope and try to see for myself?
That's not a bad idea.
I suppose can do it when I am up all night.
Juliet Lewsley

Katy, TX

#141 Jul 12, 2009
Wayne wrote:
PLEASE REMEMBER! When you take something that is very effective, you will suffer a healing crisis. That means major diahrrea and stomach upset until all of the dead organisms are out of your body. Many people will actually stop taking effective treatment for that reason. Don't back off! In other words, effective treatment will cause a temporary worsening of symptoms until the parasite is completely gone.
Thanks so much for all that info, I went and bought the Oregano Oil tablets today, hopefully they will work, dont know how much more I can take of this!
Wayne

United States

#142 Jul 14, 2009
To: Still alive. MSM is a type of Organic Sulfur. It is good for helping your joints, and allergies and things like that. But it is also good against parasites because it coats all of your mucus membranes and intestines with sulfur. This can cause the parasites to lose their grip. But that takes a long time. The "Now" brand 100% pure Oregano Oil will outright kill the parasite. You got the tablets, and they are effective as well as long as they aren't deluted so much that the oil is ineffective. I use the 100% pure kind and delute it with a little juice or water. It isn't pleasant, but it works! Do you have any Black Walnut trees in your yard? Here is what I did. Black Walnut is effective against Giardia as well. Knowing this, I took some black walnut hulls and chopped them up into little pieces and put them in my dog's water. She drank the water and it did seem to help her. I also wormed her later just to be safe. Here is what you can do with your pool: Chlorine may not kill giardia completely. I would go and get a bottle of 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide and use that instead. Peroxide will definately kill giardia. You can do the same for geese and ducks. Put Black walnut hull in their water. It will not harm them, and they will still drink it. I should know! I have two dogs, 35 chickens, and 6 guinea fowl myself! They are doing fine. I can relate to your pain! This is a bad situation. This parasite is highly contagious. If you some how slip up, and forget to wash your hands after being with the dog, it can have bad consequences. And thats tough cause we all love our dogs! Make sure to worm them on a regular basis. Or you may even want to take them to the vet to get a check-up. Thats is you can afford it. BTW Iodine is safe, as long as you do not take too much, and you do not want to take it for more than a ten day period. Otherwise it can cause thyroid problems.

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