The Islamic month of Ramadan and prayer breaks

Jul 25, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Saipan Tribune

By FRANK GIBSON Special to the Saipan Tribune Question: I am an observant Muslim and I am obligated by my faith to pray during work hours.

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Islam expects employers to give special privileges to Muslims.

Not having to work during work hours is only one of the many exceptions that must be made by the unbelievers.

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do Jews get sperical privileges on Yom Kippur? mmhm

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*special:/
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Not having to work during work hours
Sounds like a typical pious muslim man on the job :p

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muslims have jobs?

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I wish a happy Ramadan for all Muslims in the world.
The month I like so much is coming. I hope I won't die before it comes. I like fasting too.
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Sarah, i have read that in Islam there is a "travel mode" for prayer. When one is in transition, such as on a plane, one can say the prayers while just sitting down.

Is that true? If so, why are workers going on and on about needing a prayer space, etc. Why not consider the workplace a "travel" environment?

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I wish a happy Ramadan for all Muslims in the world.
The month I like so much is coming. I hope I won't die before it comes. I like fasting too.
Wouldn't it be nice if muslims gave up violence for ramen noodles month?

Are you planning some kind of attack mr. sarah? You could give that up and live, you know peacefully...
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SCENARIOS OF THE MONTH RAMADAN IN SAUDI ARABIA
1.Based on my ten years stay in Saudi Arabia, I felt that Ramadan is not as sacred as we, the non-Arab Muslims, regard it as. Instead, it is a carnival time, Joyous month for the frustrated Saudis.
2.It is not a fasting, but a feasting, month for the Saudis. They fast and sleep all day long, and eat the whole night by attending parties and playing in between the parties till dawn.
3.They celebrate this month after an eleven months long frustration of manmade laws. Throughout the month, they won’t sleep at nights. Instead they play cards, carom, dominos and smoke with ‘HABLI BABLI’– the pipe and apparatus (Hookah).4.Always the Saudis need servants (literally slaves). During the night parties, they temporarily hire the poor non-Arab Muslims to serve them tea and food, and prepare fire for the “HABLI BABLI”. They eat several times all kinds of special food in between their games. These servants, having served the Saudis the whole night, must attend their normal duties at daybreaks.
5.The non-Arab servant girls (Concubines - mostly Muslims) cook and serve them the whole night round, and have to take care of the school-going children and infants during day time. So, it is a sleepless month for these helpless maids. It is very painful to hear the stories of these poor souls. It requires pages after pages to write about their agonies. In simple words, it is a curse to be a maidservant in Saudi Arabia, more so during the month of Ramadan.
6.It is a practice among the Arabs and even among the non-Arab Muslims to enquire one another a week earlier before the arrival of Ramadan about the purchase of Ramadan grocery, because it is a "huge purchase". They spend at least 3 to 4 times more on food in Ramadan than the normal month. Well, that how IT IS A FASTING MONTH. And supermarkets flourish with abundance of groceries with attractive offers.
7.The office-going Saudis reserve their place of sleep by keeping their blankets and pillows, 2 days prior to the arrival of Ramadan in their respective offices. Their job will be taken care of by the infidel colleagues during Ramadan, while they sleep in office. It is an unwritten law during Ramadan. The responsible senior Saudi officers, who fears “Allah”(!!!), do not sleep like the junior Saudis do. Senior officials sleep in their respective chairs by holding the “Holy Quran”(!!!) in their hands.
8.The non-Saudi employees, be they Muslim or infidel, have to work as normal as they were. They also have to take care of the duties of the sleeping Saudis of their respective categories. Of course, the non-Saudi Muslims get 2 hours off in their duty hours.
9.The non-Muslim staffs of any office must take their lunch behind closed doors, because the flavour of their food may weaken the faith of the sleeping Saudis and tempt them to break their fast.
10.Shops stay closed all day long and open with special illuminating lightings throughout the night and close at the call for the morning Prayer. Women seems to have a little bit privilege to visit shops during the night hours in groups, of course under the watch of a male member, but not as tight as it is in normal months. 11.Saudi women try her best to empty the purse of her husband during Ramadan by changing the old furniture, curtains and carpets with new ones. The idea behind this purchase is not to decorate her house, but to empty the purse of her husband. By doing so, she prevents him from “buying” a new wife. It is true whenever a Saudi man felt his purse is heavy, he looks for a new wife. If he already has four wives, he may kick out the odd one. So his wives strive hard to consolidate their positions by these kinds of expenses during Ramadan. Thus, the Ramadan has some good effects too.
12.Nobody should eat or drink anything in public during the fasting hours. The offender will be whipped by the patrolling religious police.

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more truth wrote:
Sarah, i have read that in Islam there is a "travel mode" for prayer. When one is in transition, such as on a plane, one can say the prayers while just sitting down.
Is that true? If so, why are workers going on and on about needing a prayer space, etc. Why not consider the workplace a "travel" environment?
Why did you ask me this question? I'm no mufti.
And why do you worry about what Muslims need? I don't think you're a boss of someone who's a Muslim.
Whether we need a break or place for prayers or don't need, it's none of your damn business.

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Wouldn't it be nice if muslims gave up violence for ramen noodles month?
Are you planning some kind of attack mr. sarah? You could give that up and live, you know peacefully...
The revolutions shouldn't stop until the dictators are thrown out.
Think of people who don't have food to eat. Have you ever tried to stop eating and drinking for 12 hrs? I don't think you have. Probably you think you would pass out on the spot if you did.
How fat are you mr. decaro? And what's your waist size?

btw are you up to something? When I feel like it, I will report you and tell them you're a lot like anders brivik and you might be planning a terrorist attack.

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<quoted text>Why did you ask me this question? I'm no mufti ...
English translation: don't ask me to think for myself because I'm not qualified to do so under islam.
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Sarah ___ wrote:
<quoted text>Why did you ask me this question? I'm no mufti.
And why do you worry about what Muslims need? I don't think you're a boss of someone who's a Muslim.
Whether we need a break or place for prayers or don't need, it's none of your damn business.
Seems to me a simple question that ordinary muslims would know how to answer. I have been trying to figure out what the fuss about prayer breaks and demands for special treatment are all about. What I come up with is arrogant ostentation and insulting the host culture.

I used to meet muslims in the workplace, they never said or did anything crazy and aggressive. Jews actually wore more markers. Jewish women in snoods, men in various little hats.
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Sarah ___ wrote:
<quoted text>Why did you ask me this question? I'm no mufti.
And why do you worry about what Muslims need? I don't think you're a boss of someone who's a Muslim.
Whether we need a break or place for prayers or don't need, it's none of your damn business.
Muslims make it our damn buisness for asking.And the reason we dont appreciate people taking time out to pray during working hours is because it's not fair everyone else has to work whilst muslims waste time praying.This is not an islamic country so tough you want to live in a non muslim country then im afraid you cant just think the traditions you have in your socities matter because they dont.Whatever country your learn to live there way or go back to a country where they respect the muslims way of life or shut up prayer on your own time not evryone elses.Christiians dont have to take time out to pray so you dont need to eitheir

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Joe DeCaro wrote:
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English translation: don't ask me to think for myself because I'm not qualified to do so under islam.
Why should I think about that? I pray all the time in my room. Also, I'm not qualified. One has to study huge books in order to become a trustworthy mufti. Mufti - a Muslim scholar who issues fatwas.

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<quoted text>Muslims make it our damn buisness for asking.And the reason we dont appreciate people taking time out to pray during working hours is because it's not fair everyone else has to work whilst muslims waste time praying.This is not an islamic country so tough you want to live in a non muslim country then im afraid you cant just think the traditions you have in your socities matter because they dont.Whatever country your learn to live there way or go back to a country where they respect the muslims way of life or shut up prayer on your own time not evryone elses.Christiians dont have to take time out to pray so you dont need to eitheir
Christians don't take a break for coffee and food?
So what's wrong if Muslims take some minutes for prayers? But why should you worry about that all? Do you have a subordinate of you who is a Muslim?

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<quoted text>Why should I think about that? I pray all the time in my room. Also, I'm not qualified ...
You're not qualified to issue a fatwah, but you don't have to be an imam to think about your own religion, or is thinking "verbotten" for you?

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Joe DeCaro wrote:
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You're not qualified to issue a fatwah, but you don't have to be an imam to think about your own religion, or is thinking "verbotten" for you?
Maybe thinking is verboten for YOU.
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The muslims I knew may have taken prayer breaks. In the travel mode I assume, no one threw themselves on the floor or on the parking lot in public.

People pray all the time mentally.

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Sarah ___ wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe thinking is verboten for YOU.
But I'm not the one thinking about why I should be thinking.
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<quoted text>Why should I think about that?...

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