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Medical marijuana: Pot of gold or pipe dream?

There are 56 comments on the Red Bluff Daily News story from May 10, 2010, titled Medical marijuana: Pot of gold or pipe dream?. In it, Red Bluff Daily News reports that:

In about a dozen states, you can smoke a joint if you have cancer or HIV and meet certain conditions, like having a doctor's note.

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Precious

Dwight, IL

#43 May 27, 2010
Precious wrote:
<quoted text>What are you talking about? You make no sense at all.
What part of this question are you unable to comprehend?
Precious

Dwight, IL

#44 May 27, 2010
Pit Bull owner wrote:
<quoted text>
clearly you never clicked on the link or have done any real research
the rest of my post was from the lyric to the Prestenders sdong Prescious
you only think you're preciouas
you are ignorant
Marijuana has been around since the dawn of recorded history; the first known use of marijuana dates to 7,000 B.C. Marijuana was used as a medicinal herb by the ancient Chinese, Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans for stomach ailments, cramps, and pain. Marijuana, like opium and heroin, has its roots in Asia. How it found its way to the Americas is somewhat of a mystery. Historians speculate that Napoleon brought marijuana to Europe in 1804 following his military exploits, and then European immigrants brought it with them to the U.S. Marijuana was probably first brought to Latin America by Spanish conquistadors in the 1500 -1600's. Hispanic migrant laborers are thought to have brought it across the U.S. border in the early 1900's.
Marijuana was first used in the U.S. for medicinal purposes in the 1800's, however, the cannabis (hemp) plant fiber had been used for thousands of years. Hemp fiber was the main ingredient of the first woven fabric. Hemp was used to make rope, twine, cloth, and paper among other things. The word 'canvas' originated from the Latin term cannapaceus or “made of hemp.” The 'sheets' that powered the ships of old were made of hemp canvas because the sun and salt water rapidly deteriorated cotton fabrics. Canvas sails were extremely durable and could withstand the elements. Canvas was used for the covered wagons of pioneers on their westward journey, and the original Levi's Jeans were made of old canvas sails.
Although marijuana had been around for a long time, widespread use of marijuana as a recreational drug did not become widespread until alcohol was banned during Prohibition (1920 - 1933). Prior to that, marijuana had been used in the Americas for hundreds of years for its medicinal qualities. As soon as the government banned alcohol, marijuana took its place and consumption soared. Once alcohol was legal again, use of marijuana steeply declined.
So, Great One, are you the only one who is entitled to post their opinion? You know it all & everyone else is inferior to you? Well, for your information, opinions are like ***holes. Everyone has one, & we all know what comes out of them.
Pit Bull owner

Huntington Station, NY

#45 May 27, 2010
Precious wrote:
<quoted text>So, Great One, are you the only one who is entitled to post their opinion? You know it all & everyone else is inferior to you? Well, for your information, opinions are like ***holes. Everyone has one, & we all know what comes out of them.
this is an opinion

"Precious
Cedar Falls, IA
Reply »#38 15 hrs ago

Cancer & HIV have been around for how long now, & they are wanting to legalize pot for it? My question is: Why after making it illegal, do they all of a sudden want to make it legal now? Are they planning on making cocaine, meth & all the other illegal drugs legal too? If one's going to be legalized, then they all might as well be too. "

I posted facts
you made a prejudiced innacurate statement which is your opinion
as I said apparently you've never done any real research into the issue you are commenting on.

It is classified as Class 1 narcotic: no medical usage, A LIE
The law was enacted on the LIE that all Mexicans were crazy because they smoke "marihuana"

http://www.brucealanblock.com/pages/Marijuana...
Pit Bull owner

Huntington Station, NY

#46 May 27, 2010
Precious wrote:
<quoted text>What part of this question are you unable to comprehend?
how about marijuana was legal for *5,000 years why did they make it illegal ?

what part of this question do you not understand
correction *7,000 years
Precious

Dwight, IL

#47 May 27, 2010
Pit Bull owner wrote:
<quoted text>
this is an opinion
"Precious
Cedar Falls, IA
Reply »#38 15 hrs ago
Cancer & HIV have been around for how long now, & they are wanting to legalize pot for it? My question is: Why after making it illegal, do they all of a sudden want to make it legal now? Are they planning on making cocaine, meth & all the other illegal drugs legal too? If one's going to be legalized, then they all might as well be too. "
I posted facts
you made a prejudiced innacurate statement which is your opinion
as I said apparently you've never done any real research into the issue you are commenting on.
It is classified as Class 1 narcotic: no medical usage, A LIE
The law was enacted on the LIE that all Mexicans were crazy because they smoke "marihuana"
http://www.brucealanblock.com/pages/Marijuana...
All I asked, was why are they all of a sudden making it legal, in which you answered well, & I agree with you. I guess, I just don't understand why they are wanting to make one illegal drug legal & not all the rest too. Maybe you can explain that one to me. Likewise, I don't believe that Mexicans are crazy, & don't agree that they all smoke pot. Whoever made that claim, is blowing smoke.
Precious

Dwight, IL

#48 May 27, 2010
Pit Bull owner wrote:
<quoted text>
how about marijuana was legal for *5,000 years why did they make it illegal ?
what part of this question do you not understand
correction *7,000 years
LOL. Good response. I had that coming. Anyhow, this whole thing about it being legal then becoming illegal, is stupid. That's just my opinion though.
Pit Bull owner

Huntington Station, NY

#49 May 27, 2010
Precious wrote:
<quoted text>All I asked, was why are they all of a sudden making it legal, in which you answered well, & I agree with you. I guess, I just don't understand why they are wanting to make one illegal drug legal & not all the rest too. Maybe you can explain that one to me. Likewise, I don't believe that Mexicans are crazy, & don't agree that they all smoke pot. Whoever made that claim, is blowing smoke.
.

I don't think it is all of a sudden
As I recall an organization called NORML
National Organization for Reform of Marijuana Laws started back in the 1970's

Although in 1937 the federal government by fiat determined that marijuana had no medicinal use, numerous studies have since proven this and every other assertion dead wrong. Scientific study and research of marijuana began in the 1950's and each study has concluded that marijuana has medicinal qualities and surprisingly, that unlike narcotics, is not physically addictive.

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2005 that state laws that allow medical marijuana cannot overrule federal laws that prohibit it. Inotherwords, Congress can ban its possession or use even where state law allows it. This court decision did nothing to resolve the growing conflict between state and federal laws. Recently, the Obama Administration's Department of Justice issued a letter indicating that it would not actively prosecute those who are authorized to grow, possess, and use marijuana under state medicinal laws. See our Medical Marijuana Page for more information. The number of incarcerated Americans for drug crimes jumped from 41,000 in 1980 to 493,000 in 2003, as the graph indicates.

In 1972 the City of Ann Arbor, Michigan (home of The University of Michigan) made possession of pot within the city limits a civil infraction with a token $5 fine. In 1996 the State of California passed the first medical marijuana law; thirteen states subsequently followed its lead. California was rather bold by passing a law allowing for medical marijuana, but then again, California has the eighth largest economy in the world and thus has tremendous financial clout. For a comparison chart of the 14 marijuana states follow this link: The Medical Marihuana States at a Glance. In November of 2010, California voters will decide whether to decriminalize marijuana throughout the state. Should California voters legalize marijuana, this vote would likely start a domino effect throughout the country.

Marijuana remains the most widely used substance in the world, and without any doubt whatsoever, the most controversial.

The links I provided are very informative and interesting.
Precious

Dwight, IL

#50 May 27, 2010
Pit Bull owner wrote:
<quoted text>.
I don't think it is all of a sudden
As I recall an organization called NORML
National Organization for Reform of Marijuana Laws started back in the 1970's
Although in 1937 the federal government by fiat determined that marijuana had no medicinal use, numerous studies have since proven this and every other assertion dead wrong. Scientific study and research of marijuana began in the 1950's and each study has concluded that marijuana has medicinal qualities and surprisingly, that unlike narcotics, is not physically addictive.
The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2005 that state laws that allow medical marijuana cannot overrule federal laws that prohibit it. Inotherwords, Congress can ban its possession or use even where state law allows it. This court decision did nothing to resolve the growing conflict between state and federal laws. Recently, the Obama Administration's Department of Justice issued a letter indicating that it would not actively prosecute those who are authorized to grow, possess, and use marijuana under state medicinal laws. See our Medical Marijuana Page for more information. The number of incarcerated Americans for drug crimes jumped from 41,000 in 1980 to 493,000 in 2003, as the graph indicates.
In 1972 the City of Ann Arbor, Michigan (home of The University of Michigan) made possession of pot within the city limits a civil infraction with a token $5 fine. In 1996 the State of California passed the first medical marijuana law; thirteen states subsequently followed its lead. California was rather bold by passing a law allowing for medical marijuana, but then again, California has the eighth largest economy in the world and thus has tremendous financial clout. For a comparison chart of the 14 marijuana states follow this link: The Medical Marihuana States at a Glance. In November of 2010, California voters will decide whether to decriminalize marijuana throughout the state. Should California voters legalize marijuana, this vote would likely start a domino effect throughout the country.
Marijuana remains the most widely used substance in the world, and without any doubt whatsoever, the most controversial.
The links I provided are very informative and interesting.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge about this. Sorry about any previous misunderstandings. You sound like a very informed person, & people could learn a lot from you.
Pit Bull owner

Huntington Station, NY

#51 May 27, 2010
Precious wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you for sharing your knowledge about this. Sorry about any previous misunderstandings. You sound like a very informed person, & people could learn a lot from you.
Thank You....and I also appologize for any misunderstanding
Noneya

Aledo, IL

#52 May 27, 2010
lawl precious and pitbull i enjoyed reading your back and forth comments and how it went from argueing to aggreing....alls i can say is you both are confusing hahaha.

I am a firm supporter of legalizing marijuana. Throughout readign all of these comments i have myself come to many conclusions....1 of which being most of you have no clue whatsoever regarding the subject at hand nor the drug in question.

For those that think cocaine and heroin are natural drugs, you are dead wrong. Cocaine and Heroin both have to be processed and chemicalized and are NOT natural drugs. Marijuana is picked the same as any vegitable, fruit, or flower and is then dried (similar to more fruits, vegitables, and flowers than i can count) and once dried can then be smoked.(no chemicals or scientific processes needed) To qoute Geico "Even a caveman could do it"

For those of you that are saying "well if you legalize pot then why not legalize all drugs". I say to you go do some research on those other drugs compared to pot before you bother wasting your brain power on typing. Marijuana is the ONE drug that has never been known to kill via "overdose". Heroin, cocaine, excstacy, crack, and 99% of the others have all been known to kill via overdose and also have to be made via scientific processes and the use of chemicals like anhydrous ammonia.(For those of you that dont know anhydrous ammonia will burn your lungs, throat, and skin.) Meth causes permanent brain and organ damage and causes lasting phyisical changes to how you look. Also discolors and rots your teeth within a couple years until they all fall out.

I am a firefighter and have been to many drug related incidents including cleaning up meth labs and taking care of anhydrous ammonia leaks that valves were left open by thiefs.
However those incidents do not outnumber the amount of alchohol related accidents, injuries, and violence i have dealt with in my profession.

Something in the other sides defence: Those that are saying pot is safer than cigarettes and alchohol are technically incorrect. While pot may lead to people acting safer when using than when using alchohol, the chemicals and carcenogens are the health factors. Pot contains some 447 known carcenogens (carcenogens have been linked to many illnesses including cancer) Whereas cigarettes contain some 37 known carcenogens. Pot and alchohol are neck and neck when it comes to bodily health and pot is nowhere near safer than cigarettes. However pot has also been known to cause increased heart rate and short term memory loss.

There are good points on both sides however i do believe the legalizing it side has more ammunition to put forward than the "kill all the potheads" side.

Just keep in mind, comparing marijuana to 99% of other drugs out there is not a correct comparison. Keep your comments correct and provide your proof instead of just saying "my uncle injected liquid thc in between his toes and blew up his heart" Because first of all anyone that is THAT stupid just deserves to be junk punched.
Precious

Dwight, IL

#53 May 27, 2010
Noneya wrote:
lawl precious and pitbull i enjoyed reading your back and forth comments and how it went from argueing to aggreing....alls i can say is you both are confusing hahaha.
I am a firm supporter of legalizing marijuana. Throughout readign all of these comments i have myself come to many conclusions....1 of which being most of you have no clue whatsoever regarding the subject at hand nor the drug in question.
For those that think cocaine and heroin are natural drugs, you are dead wrong. Cocaine and Heroin both have to be processed and chemicalized and are NOT natural drugs. Marijuana is picked the same as any vegitable, fruit, or flower and is then dried (similar to more fruits, vegitables, and flowers than i can count) and once dried can then be smoked.(no chemicals or scientific processes needed) To qoute Geico "Even a caveman could do it"
For those of you that are saying "well if you legalize pot then why not legalize all drugs". I say to you go do some research on those other drugs compared to pot before you bother wasting your brain power on typing. Marijuana is the ONE drug that has never been known to kill via "overdose". Heroin, cocaine, excstacy, crack, and 99% of the others have all been known to kill via overdose and also have to be made via scientific processes and the use of chemicals like anhydrous ammonia.(For those of you that dont know anhydrous ammonia will burn your lungs, throat, and skin.) Meth causes permanent brain and organ damage and causes lasting phyisical changes to how you look. Also discolors and rots your teeth within a couple years until they all fall out.
I am a firefighter and have been to many drug related incidents including cleaning up meth labs and taking care of anhydrous ammonia leaks that valves were left open by thiefs.
However those incidents do not outnumber the amount of alchohol related accidents, injuries, and violence i have dealt with in my profession.
Something in the other sides defence: Those that are saying pot is safer than cigarettes and alchohol are technically incorrect. While pot may lead to people acting safer when using than when using alchohol, the chemicals and carcenogens are the health factors. Pot contains some 447 known carcenogens (carcenogens have been linked to many illnesses including cancer) Whereas cigarettes contain some 37 known carcenogens. Pot and alchohol are neck and neck when it comes to bodily health and pot is nowhere near safer than cigarettes. However pot has also been known to cause increased heart rate and short term memory loss.
There are good points on both sides however i do believe the legalizing it side has more ammunition to put forward than the "kill all the potheads" side.
Just keep in mind, comparing marijuana to 99% of other drugs out there is not a correct comparison. Keep your comments correct and provide your proof instead of just saying "my uncle injected liquid thc in between his toes and blew up his heart" Because first of all anyone that is THAT stupid just deserves to be junk punched.
I'm the guilty one you mentioned in paragraph 4 <grinning a big sheepish grin>. The only thing I've ever witnessed about pot, is that it relaxes a person & makes them hungry. I've never heard of it easing pain before. You learn something new everyday I guess.
Noneya

Aledo, IL

#54 May 27, 2010
Even in what you just said there is answers and reasons for it to be used medically precious.

"The only thing I've ever witnessed about pot, is that it relaxes a person & makes them hungry."

Reason 1: People who are so high strung, stressed out, and nearing heart attack and stroke limits with their blood pressure can use the calm relaxing effects of marijuana to prevent dieing by stress related heart issues.

Reason 2: People who dont have an appetite due to illnesses including cancer and desease can use the hunger causing side effect to prevent malnutrition and starvation and maybe even be able to enjoy their food.

Point is marijuana has ALOT of useful effects, some go unoticed because theyre internal and some are noticed in feelings of hunger and relaxation. It really is quite a versatile drug.
Precious

Dwight, IL

#55 May 27, 2010
Noneya wrote:
Even in what you just said there is answers and reasons for it to be used medically precious.
"The only thing I've ever witnessed about pot, is that it relaxes a person & makes them hungry."
Reason 1: People who are so high strung, stressed out, and nearing heart attack and stroke limits with their blood pressure can use the calm relaxing effects of marijuana to prevent dieing by stress related heart issues.
Reason 2: People who dont have an appetite due to illnesses including cancer and desease can use the hunger causing side effect to prevent malnutrition and starvation and maybe even be able to enjoy their food.
Point is marijuana has ALOT of useful effects, some go unoticed because theyre internal and some are noticed in feelings of hunger and relaxation. It really is quite a versatile drug.
I agree with you. I don't have any gripes about pot at all. If people think it will help them with whatever ailment they have, then I believe it's their right to be able to use it. All I am saying, is that I am learning something new everyday is all. I find it very interesting.
Pit Bull owner

Huntington Station, NY

#56 May 28, 2010
Noneya wrote:
lawl precious and pitbull i enjoyed reading your back and forth comments and how it went from argueing to aggreing....alls i can say is you both are confusing hahaha.
I am a firm supporter of legalizing marijuana. Throughout readign all of these comments i have myself come to many conclusions....1 of which being most of you have no clue whatsoever regarding the subject at hand nor the drug in question.
For those that think cocaine and heroin are natural drugs, you are dead wrong. Cocaine and Heroin both have to be processed and chemicalized and are NOT natural drugs. Marijuana is picked the same as any vegitable, fruit, or flower and is then dried (similar to more fruits, vegitables, and flowers than i can count) and once dried can then be smoked.(no chemicals or scientific processes needed) To qoute Geico "Even a caveman could do it"
For those of you that are saying "well if you legalize pot then why not legalize all drugs". I say to you go do some research on those other drugs compared to pot before you bother wasting your brain power on typing. Marijuana is the ONE drug that has never been known to kill via "overdose". Heroin, cocaine, excstacy, crack, and 99% of the others have all been known to kill via overdose and also have to be made via scientific processes and the use of chemicals like anhydrous ammonia.(For those of you that dont know anhydrous ammonia will burn your lungs, throat, and skin.) Meth causes permanent brain and organ damage and causes lasting phyisical changes to how you look. Also discolors and rots your teeth within a couple years until they all fall out.
I am a firefighter and have been to many drug related incidents including cleaning up meth labs and taking care of anhydrous ammonia leaks that valves were left open by thiefs.
However those incidents do not outnumber the amount of alchohol related accidents, injuries, and violence i have dealt with in my profession.
Something in the other sides defence: Those that are saying pot is safer than cigarettes and alchohol are technically incorrect. While pot may lead to people acting safer when using than when using alchohol, the chemicals and carcenogens are the health factors. Pot contains some 447 known carcenogens (carcenogens have been linked to many illnesses including cancer) Whereas cigarettes contain some 37 known carcenogens. Pot and alchohol are neck and neck when it comes to bodily health and pot is nowhere near safer than cigarettes. However pot has also been known to cause increased heart rate and short term memory loss.
There are good points on both sides however i do believe the legalizing it side has more ammunition to put forward than the "kill all the potheads" side.
Just keep in mind, comparing marijuana to 99% of other drugs out there is not a correct comparison. Keep your comments correct and provide your proof instead of just saying "my uncle injected liquid thc in between his toes and blew up his heart" Because first of all anyone that is THAT stupid just deserves to be junk punched.
if you read all of my posts
except the first one where I quoted the lyrics from the Pretenders song "Precious", I don't think there is anything confusing about my stance.

I though Precious and myself were apologizing for being unfriendly at first, in the last post.
I agree with everything else you stated, except...
400,000 people a year die from smoking cigarettes
there are no substanial fatality statistics for marijuana according to the CDC.
So I am not so sure that cigarettes are safer than marijuana.

It is better to use a vaporizer or make herbal tea than to smoke.
Whether for medicinal or recreational usage marijuana should be legal.

Legalize Marijuana
Secure the Border
Deport illegal aliens
Impeach Obama
Have a nice weekend
God Bless all of our troops
and think of the fallen this weekend
Precious

Dwight, IL

#57 May 28, 2010
Pit Bull owner wrote:
<quoted text>
if you read all of my posts
except the first one where I quoted the lyrics from the Pretenders song "Precious", I don't think there is anything confusing about my stance.
I though Precious and myself were apologizing for being unfriendly at first, in the last post.
I agree with everything else you stated, except...
400,000 people a year die from smoking cigarettes
there are no substanial fatality statistics for marijuana according to the CDC.
So I am not so sure that cigarettes are safer than marijuana.
It is better to use a vaporizer or make herbal tea than to smoke.
Whether for medicinal or recreational usage marijuana should be legal.
Legalize Marijuana
Secure the Border
Deport illegal aliens
Impeach Obama
Have a nice weekend
God Bless all of our troops
and think of the fallen this weekend
Precious is busy mourning the loss of Gary Coleman right now, & smoking like a horse. Anyhow, here is my final take on the pot issue: Each of us are the only ones that wear our body, so it should be our personal right to be able to put whatever we want to in it regardless of what other people might think about it. Only we are the ones who will have to deal with the outcome. Don't know if that makes any sense, but it's my opinion nonetheless.
swatch

Zagreb, Croatia

#58 Jun 25, 2010
pot is medicine

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